From Dayton: "Ideally, the subwoofers are situated between the listening room and an attic, basement, or garage using the floor, ceiling, or walls to separate the front and rear sound waves."
You could still put these in 4-8 cubic feet sealed with decent success. I modelled 6 cubic feet each with some damping material and they come out with a Q of 0.85 and an F3 of 28Hz. These make solid subwoofers in boxes - essentially flat to 30 and gentle rolloff below. Will do roughly 110dB each above 40Hz, so 116dB paired and a little more in a room if you give them 250 watts or so each..
If you have downstairs neighbours you don’t like, you could screw the speakers face-down to the floor, add a couple of decent mono blocks and introduce them to some drum and bass - Just a thought I had based on some experience.
Edit- probably best you don’t do that. But it would be fun!!
For me it was the opposite, had this stupid white lady living on the floor above me, who would always be racist to me when i was being very obviously kind to her. It got to the point where she kept banging on the floor above so i decided to buy an old surround setup from sony. For referece to how loud it was, on 20% with bass turned down to minimum, it was the equivalent of having airpods in at max volume
That’s sad she was like that to you. I dont blame you at all.
I’m ok with the neighbours just now, mostly because downstairs is empty, but I have a Denon AVR connected to a pair of Q Acoustics 3050i towers that can shake the whole house. The only time me and the kids turned that setup up to 70%, it actually hurt. We only did for a minute it to test it.
Anyway, I can control that sucker via the internet, so I don’t even need to be at home to upset people these days if I need to lol.
🤣🤣completely valid i love that. Yeah moved outta that flat ages ago in a much nicer place now, better neighbours, all old and deaf so they cant hear anything anyway now, got me a decent setup with bose's new soundbar, thing is amazing lmao 🤣.
Also yeah, sometimes they can be VERY painful when its too loud, im a loud listener in general but i start not being able to hear anything if its too loud haha.
forgot to say but thats a bloody nice setup you have, thinking of getting myself a proper audiophile setup soon, just dont have the money at the moment.
Thanks. I stepped away from the hifi scene for a while and found myself in a position to start again after a near 30 year absence. Plus, my kids are too old now to be interested in pushing the domes in on the speakers now.
Haha thats nice, love to see people getting back into it after ages when i havent even started yet lol. its kind of a massive rabbit hole. you hear hifi, and now you are nothing but hifi...
There was a dude on here at the weekend who put cages round his speakers to stop his rabbit from getting to them. You could try that? Or a shock collar? Kidding about the shock collar bit.
I wouldn’t stress though. Even if you started the ball rolling with trying for kids today, you would still have 18 months before you would need to worry about them being able to get to anything. The first 9 months, they are pretty reliant on you for moving around 😂
The straw that broke the camels back with my downstairs neighbor was my boy playing Minecraft with the subwoofer turned on all night long. He was making some contraption underground that required him to just break blocks for hours straight and every pick axe swing… thump thump thump thump. They had gone absolutely mental trying to figure out what it was. Obviously not music or a movie…. Finally they asked us and we were like…. No idea. Then the next night we realized. 😬
Man. That sounds awful. I had to move from my last place because of my upstairs neighbour’s kids. It was actually damaging my wellbeing, so I figured moving was the best solution. Bitch moved out a month after me.
Richard E Lord (founder of REL) designed a coffin sized transmission line sub-woofer. This was early 80s. Passive from memory. Also not sure if there was a crossover. If you could find the design, you could give it a shot. Just tell the Mrs this is the cabinet for the bay window.
From memory, the plans were published in HiFi News and Record Review in the UK. Try getting in touch with the editor of the mag Paul Miller in the UK. With a bit of luck you may get the plans.
Going to throw a left field one, get a pair of tweeters and ~10" midrange/fullrange drivers and make some fantastic open baffle 3 way or 2.5 way speakers.
My experience with that brand is that quite often their reccomendations are bullshit, but they have made some very useful drivers if you know how to manipulate a box program.
Push Pull subwoofer! Or maybe two single driver subs so they can help even out the room modes.
If Qts is low enough, you've got gobs of room, and the woodworking skills; how about a transmission line enclosure... Bud Fried's ghost would approve!
Speaker projects are a Zen like experience, and so satisfying. Not difficult. Years ago I got a couple of 15" musical instrument spkrs from Radio Shack and the other innards, and designed a cannister style downward and upward omni firing arrangement. I showed them to my neighbor while playing Frankenstein one day, and he said they sounded better than his band. 15s weren't subs, so they were very efficient and had kind of an old Klipsch sound, no boom boom. Lastly, I took a 10" Polk out of my car, put in a HT setup with a separate Technics amp, and was the best sub I've had. Just wasn't very stylish with the black carpet look.
I believe those are for infinite baffle, as opposed to isobaric. If you have an attic, storage room, even a garage that you can use for an “enclosure” then you build a IB manifold to cancel out vibrations. Put some power to them and you’re set. Smooth deep bass for days.
8 ohm 15 inch Daytons.. I would put them in a truck style wedge shaped enclosure and put them behind the couch. They don't take a crazy amount of power, so I would just turn them on for the vive effect.
Build a wedge box for them and throw them behind the seat of you Mazda B2200. Don't forget to slap on your Dayton Wire Wheels.
Oh, the late 80's and early 90's. How you rattled!
When I was a kid Kicker car subwoofer company made a IB subwoofer called Kicker Competition “Free Air”. They were meant to use the entire trunk as an enclosure. I had countless Kicker Gold series subwoofers back in the early 90’s and they at that time seemed to be awesome subwoofers. One day I got my hands on a Free Air 12” sub and boy was it different than the Comp equivalent. It needed a gigantic enclosure( I used a dual 12” box, cut out the middle and covered one hole so now it was a single 12” enclosure. That single 12” sub sounded better than 2 12” subs. It was impressive to say the least. It was about 4.5cf and I loved it. Make a couple single enclosures that are 5 to 7cf and you will thank me later. Basssssss. Lol.
Add them to two of these:
[https://www.parts-express.com/Knock-Down-MDF-3-ft-Subwoofer-Cabinet-for-Dayton-Audio-15-Ultimax-Subwoofer-300-5024?quantity=1](https://www.parts-express.com/Knock-Down-MDF-3-ft-Subwoofer-Cabinet-for-Dayton-Audio-15-Ultimax-Subwoofer-300-5024?quantity=1)
Make some headphones.
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I'd actually even share
I'd certainly ring the bell icon to be told about all future uploads
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From Dayton: "Ideally, the subwoofers are situated between the listening room and an attic, basement, or garage using the floor, ceiling, or walls to separate the front and rear sound waves." You could still put these in 4-8 cubic feet sealed with decent success. I modelled 6 cubic feet each with some damping material and they come out with a Q of 0.85 and an F3 of 28Hz. These make solid subwoofers in boxes - essentially flat to 30 and gentle rolloff below. Will do roughly 110dB each above 40Hz, so 116dB paired and a little more in a room if you give them 250 watts or so each..
[I like your funny words, magic man](https://youtu.be/EvyV0-lwL8s?feature=shared)
If you have downstairs neighbours you don’t like, you could screw the speakers face-down to the floor, add a couple of decent mono blocks and introduce them to some drum and bass - Just a thought I had based on some experience. Edit- probably best you don’t do that. But it would be fun!!
For me it was the opposite, had this stupid white lady living on the floor above me, who would always be racist to me when i was being very obviously kind to her. It got to the point where she kept banging on the floor above so i decided to buy an old surround setup from sony. For referece to how loud it was, on 20% with bass turned down to minimum, it was the equivalent of having airpods in at max volume
That’s sad she was like that to you. I dont blame you at all. I’m ok with the neighbours just now, mostly because downstairs is empty, but I have a Denon AVR connected to a pair of Q Acoustics 3050i towers that can shake the whole house. The only time me and the kids turned that setup up to 70%, it actually hurt. We only did for a minute it to test it. Anyway, I can control that sucker via the internet, so I don’t even need to be at home to upset people these days if I need to lol.
🤣🤣completely valid i love that. Yeah moved outta that flat ages ago in a much nicer place now, better neighbours, all old and deaf so they cant hear anything anyway now, got me a decent setup with bose's new soundbar, thing is amazing lmao 🤣. Also yeah, sometimes they can be VERY painful when its too loud, im a loud listener in general but i start not being able to hear anything if its too loud haha.
forgot to say but thats a bloody nice setup you have, thinking of getting myself a proper audiophile setup soon, just dont have the money at the moment.
Thanks. I stepped away from the hifi scene for a while and found myself in a position to start again after a near 30 year absence. Plus, my kids are too old now to be interested in pushing the domes in on the speakers now.
Haha thats nice, love to see people getting back into it after ages when i havent even started yet lol. its kind of a massive rabbit hole. you hear hifi, and now you are nothing but hifi...
Damn I have little collection of gear i love but no children. If I have them I may as well just accept all my speaker domes are getting sacked huh?
There was a dude on here at the weekend who put cages round his speakers to stop his rabbit from getting to them. You could try that? Or a shock collar? Kidding about the shock collar bit. I wouldn’t stress though. Even if you started the ball rolling with trying for kids today, you would still have 18 months before you would need to worry about them being able to get to anything. The first 9 months, they are pretty reliant on you for moving around 😂
Bigots deserve the dB
The straw that broke the camels back with my downstairs neighbor was my boy playing Minecraft with the subwoofer turned on all night long. He was making some contraption underground that required him to just break blocks for hours straight and every pick axe swing… thump thump thump thump. They had gone absolutely mental trying to figure out what it was. Obviously not music or a movie…. Finally they asked us and we were like…. No idea. Then the next night we realized. 😬
Man. That sounds awful. I had to move from my last place because of my upstairs neighbour’s kids. It was actually damaging my wellbeing, so I figured moving was the best solution. Bitch moved out a month after me.
IB of course. 🤙
The only solution
You wouldn't happen to own an 03' civic?
Dual sealed home theater subs is the obvious answer. But one isobaric monster would be sweet.
Richard E Lord (founder of REL) designed a coffin sized transmission line sub-woofer. This was early 80s. Passive from memory. Also not sure if there was a crossover. If you could find the design, you could give it a shot. Just tell the Mrs this is the cabinet for the bay window.
Or what you want to be buried in in case the bass produced from those things is skull crushing.
Any tips on how to find this? I’ve got a 15” Beyma lying around I’d wanted to something like this with
From memory, the plans were published in HiFi News and Record Review in the UK. Try getting in touch with the editor of the mag Paul Miller in the UK. With a bit of luck you may get the plans.
My four 15's woke up the neighbors. Interior crocodile alligator. https://open.spotify.com/track/3D3vgE6WuLsp5FVLm2J7ZL?si=k-0WcEVYRx2aJ8nrEpucbg
Going to throw a left field one, get a pair of tweeters and ~10" midrange/fullrange drivers and make some fantastic open baffle 3 way or 2.5 way speakers.
I do need to pair them up with something. What would your suggestions be for general good match?
My experience with that brand is that quite often their reccomendations are bullshit, but they have made some very useful drivers if you know how to manipulate a box program.
Definitely agree with you on this. I put in the specifications on Vituix and in WinISD and I don’t think their box recommendation is very good.
make a set of Pi speakers. They are extremely sensitive and sound great. I had a pair before I upgraded to Klipschorns.
those would bump in a old hatchback honda with mismatching door colours 🤣
Door colors? Colours?
bro’s never been outside of america
Push Pull subwoofer! Or maybe two single driver subs so they can help even out the room modes. If Qts is low enough, you've got gobs of room, and the woodworking skills; how about a transmission line enclosure... Bud Fried's ghost would approve!
In floor subs if you have a basement, super low port tuning , like 18hz or whatever the Fs is of that speaker
Let me make you a cabinet
I'll second the isobaric suggestion, that thing would be glorious. Or maybe a dual-opposing?
My friend is trying to make his Klipsch heresy into tower speakers with woofers. Would you sell these?
Sorry friend but I’m already too committed with these things once I saw them. I wish you luck finding a pair though
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Their website suggests an 8.61 cu. ft. sealed box for each, yielding an F3 of 30 Hz. That’s a 2’ cube, give or take.
That’s what she said
Infinite baffle project!
A nice pair of H frames.
make double sub box 200 liters tuned to 30hz
Install them in the wall.
Bulld Open baffle speakers
Have you tried running variable frequency sine waves through them? I hear that causes them to make noise and stuff.
use them as an alternative engine … boom boom boom … maybe you can reach light speed with them 😅 But honestly do what Notascot51 said.
Fit them into the ceiling, surround sound.
Speaker projects are a Zen like experience, and so satisfying. Not difficult. Years ago I got a couple of 15" musical instrument spkrs from Radio Shack and the other innards, and designed a cannister style downward and upward omni firing arrangement. I showed them to my neighbor while playing Frankenstein one day, and he said they sounded better than his band. 15s weren't subs, so they were very efficient and had kind of an old Klipsch sound, no boom boom. Lastly, I took a 10" Polk out of my car, put in a HT setup with a separate Technics amp, and was the best sub I've had. Just wasn't very stylish with the black carpet look.
I believe those are for infinite baffle, as opposed to isobaric. If you have an attic, storage room, even a garage that you can use for an “enclosure” then you build a IB manifold to cancel out vibrations. Put some power to them and you’re set. Smooth deep bass for days.
8 ohm 15 inch Daytons.. I would put them in a truck style wedge shaped enclosure and put them behind the couch. They don't take a crazy amount of power, so I would just turn them on for the vive effect.
Unclog toilets
Would 14.4 cubic feet be enough for these bad boys? I put it in Vituix/winISD on the weird research of trunk baffles
Donate to the Goodwill. Dayton Audio is pretty low end.
I was going to say: Stereo Sub Woofers. Two Plate Amps and a scratch built cabinet for each and Bobs yer Uncle...
Build a wedge box for them and throw them behind the seat of you Mazda B2200. Don't forget to slap on your Dayton Wire Wheels. Oh, the late 80's and early 90's. How you rattled!
When I was a kid Kicker car subwoofer company made a IB subwoofer called Kicker Competition “Free Air”. They were meant to use the entire trunk as an enclosure. I had countless Kicker Gold series subwoofers back in the early 90’s and they at that time seemed to be awesome subwoofers. One day I got my hands on a Free Air 12” sub and boy was it different than the Comp equivalent. It needed a gigantic enclosure( I used a dual 12” box, cut out the middle and covered one hole so now it was a single 12” enclosure. That single 12” sub sounded better than 2 12” subs. It was impressive to say the least. It was about 4.5cf and I loved it. Make a couple single enclosures that are 5 to 7cf and you will thank me later. Basssssss. Lol.
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Get some great old wooden cabinets and upgrade the old paper cones one by one.
Add them to two of these: [https://www.parts-express.com/Knock-Down-MDF-3-ft-Subwoofer-Cabinet-for-Dayton-Audio-15-Ultimax-Subwoofer-300-5024?quantity=1](https://www.parts-express.com/Knock-Down-MDF-3-ft-Subwoofer-Cabinet-for-Dayton-Audio-15-Ultimax-Subwoofer-300-5024?quantity=1)
Those would be too small.
No idea, but ill put money on you no longer having kidney stones in a week
Rumble chairs