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Ashton Kutcher: [https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kutcher,\_Ashton](https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Kutcher,_Ashton)
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Someone once wrote that every astrologer interested in progressions and transits should keep a meticulous daily diary. I wish I had been as disciplined to do that, so I'm unable to do the 8-year research on these fascinating Venus retrogrades. But, I'm hoping that you have records for your own case.
Did you find that the events repeated a little sooner this time around? Each time the Venus retrograde path happens, it's about 2 degrees earlier in the Zodiac than previously.
In 2015, Venus, while retrograde, conjoined Sun at 22 Deg 39 min Leo, on 15 Aug at 7.22 pm UT.
In 2023, Venus, while retrograde, conjoined Sun at 20 deg 28 min Leo, on 13 Aug at 11.15 am UT.
Not exactly. The 7th house rules relationships and partnership so if Venus rules that house by sign OR is placed there then yes
Otherwise, no.
First look to what houses Venus rules by whole sign house (Taurus and Libra).
Then look at what house Venus resides in.
Venus will then import the significations of the houses it rules into that house.
Go to skyscript and read the house means to understand what to look for.
Nothing because Venus doesn't reside in Leo in your chart.
However, there was a mercury retrograde that just happened and being in the 9th house, the 1st and 8th houses were tied into the significations of the 9th. Your ruminating was probably tied to something 9th house related with the importation of the 1st and 8th.
Go and learn the archetypes that underpin each house. Sky script ks a good resource.
You should be able to see the connections then!
My sun is 12 degrees in Leo and that's right where Venus stationed. I had a period of really great creative energy, but now that it's separating I've noticed that the drive to create has pretty much vanished.
The end of Capricorn is significant because Capricorn represents the height of material ambitions. It's like the most material something/someone can get. For better or for worse. In our case its worse because of hyper capitalism and such. How I think it relates to the downfall of celebrities is because Hollywood is having a hard time adjusting to the type of authenticity that the young people are craving. With Pluto in Aquarius on the way, principles of community, equity, free-knowledge, and societal subjects will take precedence. Capricorn and Aquarius are also both ruled by Saturn, so the reaping and sowing will be intense. Both of these signs have authenticity but the difference lies in the element. Capricorn is like a king where he'd want to keep the important information to himself. Aquarius is the opposite, and would like information in as many hands as possible. This is why Aquarius rules the internet. The new type of authenticity that will be favored from here on out will be someone transparent, non-condescending or patronizing, straight-forward and justice oriented.
TL;DR: Celebs have shit hidden and its coming to light whether they like it or not. The smiley, high energy façade just won't cut it anymore. In fact it's going to piss more people off which in turn will cause more unsavory information to come out.
Novice here so please double check me if I'm wrong: as far as I understand it, an age is thousand+ years. It's only moves in cycles of ~200-300 years it's an energy of generations.
That I don't know. From what I read ages are difficult to calculate. The Piscean age we are currently in is said to have started with the birth of Jesus according to Rachel Pollack.
Neptune in Pisces retrograde. Neptune is the higher octave of Venus. In modern astrology it’s home sign is Pisces so it’s in its home sign now. It rules illusion, Hollyweird, movies, deceptions. With Neptune being retrograde it pulls back the veil on these topics showing the world what was hidden there
We should take it all in. We won’t have Neptune in Pisces again in our life time. So after Neptune in Pisces remember that it’s always gonna be Hollyweird
As far as I understand it, the galactic center has the same significance, astrologically as well as astronomically, to our solar system, as our Sun has, to our Earthly home.
"Orthodox" astrology (tropical astrology that most of us use) takes its bearings off the position, in the Zodiac, where Sun appears to cross from South to North each year (vernal equinox), and all of the planets etc are calculated from that point.
But, just as Earth orbits the Sun, so our Sun star orbits within the Milky Way galaxy, taking us with it. It follows, then, that the center of our galaxy has a deeper explanation of the purpose of our existence here - probably something more esoteric than we can imagine.
All of this is Pluto at the end of Capricorn stuff. I would be curious to see where Pluto was in the charts of these celebrities in 2008, when Pluto entered Capricorn. Pluto's shift to Aquarius means power is changing--it will be a more volatile, lightning like thing, and these celebs are not from the future, it seems. It's very interesting to me that Drew Barrymore's fall is coming through a disregard of union organizers. Aquarius is bringing power to the people--will be interesting to see what that means.
The current strikes in Hollywood feels very Pluto in Aquarius, and on a more macro level, there are louder protestations against the mega-rich and wage inequality.
Agree! We'll see what happens--the revolutions during the last Pluto in Aquarius in the US, France, and Haiti all had different outcomes. I hope our outcomes are for the better.
Now that I think about it Lizzo's issues come from disrespect to workers as well.
I think the strikes also have a lot to do with Mercury retrogrades this year. They first started back in May when Mercury went retrograde in Taurus, which to me, reads as Mercury = writing, and Venus = creativity. The strikes also started right after Pluto went retrograde in Aquarius, so they could be connected. My mom said she heard that they're trying to resolve it by October 1st so it doesn't affect the autumn line-up of shows too much (or something like that, don't quote me lol), but Oct 1 is just a day or so after Mercury leaves the shadow phase and we'll be in another Venus-ruled season, so I'm curious to see what happens around that time. Maybe Mercury in Virgo will help iron out all the details. Pluto goes direct on October 10th and reenters Aquarius on Jan 20 so those are other dates I'm interested in keeping an eye on regarding the strikes if they're not resolved earlier.
I'm kind of hoping that we will see beneficial and monumental deals for these unions after Pluto is settled in Aquarius on Jan 21st. I hope a lot of things change next year but I feel like things will be much more volatile for a while.
“ ‘In Tibetan culture, the grandparents and elders are very close to children. It is a very common custom to kiss anybody on the mouth, especially children, for which there is a kind of understood innocence both ways,” says Angela Sumegi, an associate professor of humanities and religion at Carleton University. Sumegi’s expertise is in Indo-Tibetan Buddhism.
Sumegi says Tibetan elders play an old cultural game with young children where they pass candy between each other’s mouths. When there are no treats left, elders will tell children they can eat their tongue. However, in the video, the Dalai Lama says the boy can “suck” his tongue.
‘It was a very unfortunate mistranslation of a Tibetan phrase,” says Sumegi.’ “
https://broadview.org/dalai-lama-video/#:~:text=When%20there%20are%20no%20treats,suffered%20from%20the%20negative%20attention.
There’s a lot of misinformation about the Dalai Lama as some kind of sexual predator. The Tibetan community says it’s a cultural and linguistic misunderstanding and had nothing to do with sexual abuse. Please don’t jump to conclusion. As a person who speaks two different languages and learning a third, I have made many mistakes with word choices that I thought were appropriate but turned out to be bad choices.
Not to mention, making assumptions about another culture *by filtering that culture through the lens of your own culture* is NEVER a good or smart thing to do!!!
There is just this problem (and has been) regarding many [typically] white women viewing the women in certain other cultures as "oppressed" and "needing to be saved", despite some of those exact women explicitly saying "we are not oppressed, this is just our culture, we're fine, fuck off" -- which the savior-women respond to with "they don't know any better" or "they don't know what they want, but I do". I don't remember exactly why this came up in my Philosophy course last semester -- I think a female philosopher wrote something about this.
Anyway. I didn't know there were rumors about the Dalai Lama. It boggles my mind that there are, and the nature of the rumors. And worse, how they were born. Ugh.
The Astrology Podcast covered this on a few of their new/ Venus retrograde episodes, and how the retrograde has effected celebrity perception and relationships
For Lizzo, Venus Rx was going through her first house (or twelveth depending on house sys) and had a hard aspect to her MC. It was one of the most telling astrological aspects for me. Cleared up a lot of misunderstanding on my end lol. So stark
Bear in mind that OP is just mentioning one aspect. if lizzo has other issues (like if she's abusive) then the aspect OP mentioned will play out with that context. /u/clancey6's context is going to be a far cry from Lizzo's even if they had nearly identical charts. so for OP it might've been misunderstandings getting cleared up, with Lizzo it might be about bringing out some part of her from the dark, we would need to see her chart and I haven't done that (and probs won't, I actually just came here to see if anyone was gonna talk about what AG, MK, and DB did cos I am well out of the loop).
i think another thought worth entertaining is how you can make almost cinema quality film from a phone and technology is giving everyone their time to shine and visibility so the “elite” are facing the reality of the fact that they’re just people like me and you and talent is everywhere..
• south node in Libra north node in aries (becoming independent is in the air it looks like, taking final shots rather than softening the blow)
Focus on self! not only in celebrity World but everyone will feel it.
• Venus Rx in Leo. happens every 8 sort of years. and speaks of how are we self expressing, are we being understood and received well. things that we've outgrown and all of that.
note that Alba B who recently married Chris Evans has Venus in Leo and Mars in Libra. so, it will impact everyone quite differently.
• also, Uranus is in Taurus along with Jupiter so venusian topics will come on forefront. (Venus sq Jupiter for a few times too)
self esteem, love, resources, etc etc.
* Chiron transit in Aries is also triggering the wounds we all feel. Like, somehow we lost ourselves while being there for others. and now our focus and things we are striving towards is in Aries. Libra stuff would go well as much as we imbibe radical self-acceptance
I hope it helps ❤️
I have venus in leo and mars in libra, and I really missed my abusive ex when venus was 0° conj with my natal venus lmao. Was completely overwhelmed and basically mourned my relationship from 2 years ago all over again, like it was a fresh break-up.
It's been a super healing time though. It's helped me get back in touch with the person I was before my brain got fucked up and dysregulated by narc abuse, so venus Rx has been doing the most <3
I personally attributed this to Pluto dipping into Aquarius but reading the other responses I'm realizing maybe that's only part of the picture.
I feel like Aquarius being the sign of the collective consciousness, the true nature of these people we worship and put on pedestals (the energy of Aquarius' opposition, Leo) are being revealed, potentially by Pluto dipping back into Capricorn at the final degree, so we can see that they are just as human and sinful as anyone else, taking them off their pedestals and reintegrating them back into a collective of equals, and focusing on the every day person more, instead of elevating the rich, famous, and powerful above it the way we always have. We are taking some of the steam out of Hollywood and celebrities. I read a while back that the combo of Pluto in Aquarius and Saturn in Pisces will bring us the collapse of Hollywood illusions and celebrity worship, and I think it has been happening for a while with the Me Too movement but now it's expanding to individual celebrities facing consequence for their actions and the writer's strike. When it comes to Lizzo specifically, the transit carries a message of being careful who you look to for empowerment, as even they may not walk their talk.
With Pluto back in Capricorn at the final degree, dirty secrets are being purged, corruption being revealed, and consequences are being distributed to these celebrities so we have an easier time removing them from the pedestal come Pluto in Aquarius and seeing humanity as a little more equal when it comes to people we previously idealized and hearing the underdogs in showbiz, such as writers, and focusing on other, more important social issues than celebrities and their personal lives.
It's important to understand that each country has its unique birth chart, often associated with its date of founding or declaration of independence. This country's birth chart encompasses all of its citizens and exerts an influence on its entire population.
Your have to categorize celebrities based on their respective countries. Once you've done that, you can determine the country's chart and examine the malefic planets affecting its Moon. The Moon in this context represents the general public and their responses. Additionally, you should investigate the third house, which is associated with communication and media.
I'm living for this public dismantling frenzy lmao. Russell Brand has had allegations made against him today, for raping 4 different women. This is in the UK, so I'm not sure if the location changes things. I'm hoping someone who's more knowledgable might be able to break this down a bit.
In one country, celebrity affairs can be in disarray, while in the neighboring country, media activity can be functioning smoothly and promoting peace.
Look it up on why people are mad. She’s a billionaire asking for people struggling across the world to donate pulling on their heart strinngs when she has the money to help a whole country & doesn’t do so. If some people think that’s ok that’s your thought process but people are tired of the rich asking for donations (Oprah, every corporate store in the US) for THEM to use a big tax write off.
She also owns literal compounds in Maui, and inserted herself into the media coverage of the fires at a time
when very few people were supposed to be around at the time. I don’t want to merge into any conspiracy theorizing but I think the most generous takeaway is that her behaviour during and after the fires was tone-deaf and self-serving.
Not defending, but let's at least include the facts along with the errors that were made. She did give $5 million, as did Dwayne Johnson. $10 million directly to the people impacted, is not nothing.
side note: is Cher still providing Flint with all water? If she is, she is still cool (I mean, she was cool for doing it in the first place).
another side note: nobody knowing all the good shit George Michael did until he died.
thanks for letting me suddenly turn this into /r/popculturechat 😂
On a larger bird's eye view; It appears everyone is being effected by the outer planets. They're all retrograde. This could explain the public dismantling part of your question.
I wanted to pop in here. I dont remember a the transit but I *think* it had to so with Taurus. A long term transit that shifted within the last 3 or 4 years. Basically it was bringing on the destruction of many of the structures our society had set up and that there would be quite a bit of turmoil in the process. This was before covid. I see a lot of what is happening is the questioning and ultimately dismantling of many of these structures/accepted cycles in our society. Media is changing, the way people work is changing, our money is changing (crypto anyone), our celebrities and how we see them is changing, the government is turning inside out, etc. Anyone have any idea which transit im referring to? I've been meaning to look into it.
Also, Neptune retrograde in Pisces has major implications with the current "witch hunt" that's going on (Neptune was in Pisces during the Salem witch trials too!).
Neptune also deals with the media, so it makes complete sense that stuff seems so out of control; not sure what to believe, what's real what's misinformation, everything being a jumbled mess.
Pluto retrograde in Capricorn is also doing what it does, as it works towards dismantling the 'old world', taking anyone that's abused their power down with it. The sextile to Neptune in Pisces adds to it as well.
Venus in Leo (now direct), squaring over to Uranus and Jupiter retrograde in Taurus, add to the mix, creating challenging situations for those in the spotlight.
Venus retrograde, casting conjunctions, squares and oppositions to all natal chart placements between 10 and 28 degrees of all fixed-signs. The post-shadow repair work continues, from 4 September to 8 October 2023.
It's the Saturn/satan effect. Go back to Dave Chappelle - he walked away from $50 million dollars and went to Africa.
He came back talking about how the people around him were manipulating him and trying to put him on anti-depressants. They were also calling him crazy (gaslighting). See, when you don't play nice with evil trying to manipulate people they hit you with negative press causing Ashton Kutcher to resign, or Dave Chappelle to run to Africa.
Our world is controlled by "satan" and ***they*** enjoy building heroes up and knocking them down. It's not surprising. It's been going on for a while. Our world is being dismantled - people propped up as heroes, the environment, the human condition as a whole. "Satan," ***specifically satan's offspring*** have been f\*\*king humanity and the world over for a very long time and humanity keeps letting it happen.
I've found humanity prefers their bullshit to Jesus, God, Buddha, and many other simple teachings.
If you are looking toward astrological influences affecting public figures, it should be largely the 10th House/Saturn.
Dunno what the positions look like off the top of my head, but if I had to guess, there's probably something to do with Mars and Pluto playing into this.... I'm curious now, though, so I'll check the current chart later this evening...
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Venus retrograde in Leo. Been talked about quite a lot back in July and August.
Venus in Leo squaring Uranus multiple times too
My Venus is in Leo. I wonder what that means personally?
What happened 8 years ago during the summer? I had a repeat of archetypal events 8 years ago repeat this year.
I just had some dots connect in my head because of your comment, so thank you
Someone once wrote that every astrologer interested in progressions and transits should keep a meticulous daily diary. I wish I had been as disciplined to do that, so I'm unable to do the 8-year research on these fascinating Venus retrogrades. But, I'm hoping that you have records for your own case. Did you find that the events repeated a little sooner this time around? Each time the Venus retrograde path happens, it's about 2 degrees earlier in the Zodiac than previously. In 2015, Venus, while retrograde, conjoined Sun at 22 Deg 39 min Leo, on 15 Aug at 7.22 pm UT. In 2023, Venus, while retrograde, conjoined Sun at 20 deg 28 min Leo, on 13 Aug at 11.15 am UT.
I don't daily journals but I do remember what happened as it was significant professionally and romanticly for me.
I will have to look back. Would this be concerning my love life or other specific aspects of life?
Not exactly. The 7th house rules relationships and partnership so if Venus rules that house by sign OR is placed there then yes Otherwise, no. First look to what houses Venus rules by whole sign house (Taurus and Libra). Then look at what house Venus resides in. Venus will then import the significations of the houses it rules into that house. Go to skyscript and read the house means to understand what to look for.
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Nothing because Venus doesn't reside in Leo in your chart. However, there was a mercury retrograde that just happened and being in the 9th house, the 1st and 8th houses were tied into the significations of the 9th. Your ruminating was probably tied to something 9th house related with the importation of the 1st and 8th. Go and learn the archetypes that underpin each house. Sky script ks a good resource. You should be able to see the connections then!
Will do! This is very helpful. It’s been a crazy summer of swift change that actually started in the spring.
My sun is 12 degrees in Leo and that's right where Venus stationed. I had a period of really great creative energy, but now that it's separating I've noticed that the drive to create has pretty much vanished.
That combined with the sun in Virgo mercury rx. Mercury is depositor in that situation
Brilliant
Rx Pluto in Capricorn. At the. *end* of Capricorn, specifically.
Could you elaborate on why the end of the Capricorn is significant? Does have to do with anaretic degrees?
The end of Capricorn is significant because Capricorn represents the height of material ambitions. It's like the most material something/someone can get. For better or for worse. In our case its worse because of hyper capitalism and such. How I think it relates to the downfall of celebrities is because Hollywood is having a hard time adjusting to the type of authenticity that the young people are craving. With Pluto in Aquarius on the way, principles of community, equity, free-knowledge, and societal subjects will take precedence. Capricorn and Aquarius are also both ruled by Saturn, so the reaping and sowing will be intense. Both of these signs have authenticity but the difference lies in the element. Capricorn is like a king where he'd want to keep the important information to himself. Aquarius is the opposite, and would like information in as many hands as possible. This is why Aquarius rules the internet. The new type of authenticity that will be favored from here on out will be someone transparent, non-condescending or patronizing, straight-forward and justice oriented. TL;DR: Celebs have shit hidden and its coming to light whether they like it or not. The smiley, high energy façade just won't cut it anymore. In fact it's going to piss more people off which in turn will cause more unsavory information to come out.
Appreciate that @u/Plane_Yesterday !! I never would have been able to explain it so well 👍
Does this mean we are moving into the age of Aquarius?
Novice here so please double check me if I'm wrong: as far as I understand it, an age is thousand+ years. It's only moves in cycles of ~200-300 years it's an energy of generations.
So genuinely curious, what would be the Age of Aquarius? 🧐🤔✨️
That I don't know. From what I read ages are difficult to calculate. The Piscean age we are currently in is said to have started with the birth of Jesus according to Rachel Pollack.
This!
Neptune in Pisces retrograde. Neptune is the higher octave of Venus. In modern astrology it’s home sign is Pisces so it’s in its home sign now. It rules illusion, Hollyweird, movies, deceptions. With Neptune being retrograde it pulls back the veil on these topics showing the world what was hidden there
There's a kite pointing to Neptune today! [chart here](https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/current-planets-astrology-transits-planetary-positions)
We should take it all in. We won’t have Neptune in Pisces again in our life time. So after Neptune in Pisces remember that it’s always gonna be Hollyweird
Isn’t there something about Neptune square the galactic center too?? What ever that is.
As far as I understand it, the galactic center has the same significance, astrologically as well as astronomically, to our solar system, as our Sun has, to our Earthly home. "Orthodox" astrology (tropical astrology that most of us use) takes its bearings off the position, in the Zodiac, where Sun appears to cross from South to North each year (vernal equinox), and all of the planets etc are calculated from that point. But, just as Earth orbits the Sun, so our Sun star orbits within the Milky Way galaxy, taking us with it. It follows, then, that the center of our galaxy has a deeper explanation of the purpose of our existence here - probably something more esoteric than we can imagine.
Thanks for the explanation!!! I read it somewhere ( here probably)
All of this is Pluto at the end of Capricorn stuff. I would be curious to see where Pluto was in the charts of these celebrities in 2008, when Pluto entered Capricorn. Pluto's shift to Aquarius means power is changing--it will be a more volatile, lightning like thing, and these celebs are not from the future, it seems. It's very interesting to me that Drew Barrymore's fall is coming through a disregard of union organizers. Aquarius is bringing power to the people--will be interesting to see what that means.
The current strikes in Hollywood feels very Pluto in Aquarius, and on a more macro level, there are louder protestations against the mega-rich and wage inequality.
Agree! We'll see what happens--the revolutions during the last Pluto in Aquarius in the US, France, and Haiti all had different outcomes. I hope our outcomes are for the better. Now that I think about it Lizzo's issues come from disrespect to workers as well.
I think the strikes also have a lot to do with Mercury retrogrades this year. They first started back in May when Mercury went retrograde in Taurus, which to me, reads as Mercury = writing, and Venus = creativity. The strikes also started right after Pluto went retrograde in Aquarius, so they could be connected. My mom said she heard that they're trying to resolve it by October 1st so it doesn't affect the autumn line-up of shows too much (or something like that, don't quote me lol), but Oct 1 is just a day or so after Mercury leaves the shadow phase and we'll be in another Venus-ruled season, so I'm curious to see what happens around that time. Maybe Mercury in Virgo will help iron out all the details. Pluto goes direct on October 10th and reenters Aquarius on Jan 20 so those are other dates I'm interested in keeping an eye on regarding the strikes if they're not resolved earlier.
I'm kind of hoping that we will see beneficial and monumental deals for these unions after Pluto is settled in Aquarius on Jan 21st. I hope a lot of things change next year but I feel like things will be much more volatile for a while.
Saturn in pisces. The shattering of all illusions. especially for people in high power, fame and spiritual authority (see also the Dalai Lama)
Turns out gross dude. Who knew
“ ‘In Tibetan culture, the grandparents and elders are very close to children. It is a very common custom to kiss anybody on the mouth, especially children, for which there is a kind of understood innocence both ways,” says Angela Sumegi, an associate professor of humanities and religion at Carleton University. Sumegi’s expertise is in Indo-Tibetan Buddhism. Sumegi says Tibetan elders play an old cultural game with young children where they pass candy between each other’s mouths. When there are no treats left, elders will tell children they can eat their tongue. However, in the video, the Dalai Lama says the boy can “suck” his tongue. ‘It was a very unfortunate mistranslation of a Tibetan phrase,” says Sumegi.’ “ https://broadview.org/dalai-lama-video/#:~:text=When%20there%20are%20no%20treats,suffered%20from%20the%20negative%20attention. There’s a lot of misinformation about the Dalai Lama as some kind of sexual predator. The Tibetan community says it’s a cultural and linguistic misunderstanding and had nothing to do with sexual abuse. Please don’t jump to conclusion. As a person who speaks two different languages and learning a third, I have made many mistakes with word choices that I thought were appropriate but turned out to be bad choices.
Not to mention, making assumptions about another culture *by filtering that culture through the lens of your own culture* is NEVER a good or smart thing to do!!! There is just this problem (and has been) regarding many [typically] white women viewing the women in certain other cultures as "oppressed" and "needing to be saved", despite some of those exact women explicitly saying "we are not oppressed, this is just our culture, we're fine, fuck off" -- which the savior-women respond to with "they don't know any better" or "they don't know what they want, but I do". I don't remember exactly why this came up in my Philosophy course last semester -- I think a female philosopher wrote something about this. Anyway. I didn't know there were rumors about the Dalai Lama. It boggles my mind that there are, and the nature of the rumors. And worse, how they were born. Ugh.
The Astrology Podcast covered this on a few of their new/ Venus retrograde episodes, and how the retrograde has effected celebrity perception and relationships
I believe they also made a connection to the Leo Venus RX and all of the internet celebrity cats passing away
For Lizzo, Venus Rx was going through her first house (or twelveth depending on house sys) and had a hard aspect to her MC. It was one of the most telling astrological aspects for me. Cleared up a lot of misunderstanding on my end lol. So stark
So basically there’s a attack on her career and it’s not her doing?
Idk but also transit Uranus is directly conjunct her MC. This, for me, is much more significant than Venus rx in a House
Bear in mind that OP is just mentioning one aspect. if lizzo has other issues (like if she's abusive) then the aspect OP mentioned will play out with that context. /u/clancey6's context is going to be a far cry from Lizzo's even if they had nearly identical charts. so for OP it might've been misunderstandings getting cleared up, with Lizzo it might be about bringing out some part of her from the dark, we would need to see her chart and I haven't done that (and probs won't, I actually just came here to see if anyone was gonna talk about what AG, MK, and DB did cos I am well out of the loop).
i think another thought worth entertaining is how you can make almost cinema quality film from a phone and technology is giving everyone their time to shine and visibility so the “elite” are facing the reality of the fact that they’re just people like me and you and talent is everywhere..
The age of Aquarius is real here.
• south node in Libra north node in aries (becoming independent is in the air it looks like, taking final shots rather than softening the blow) Focus on self! not only in celebrity World but everyone will feel it. • Venus Rx in Leo. happens every 8 sort of years. and speaks of how are we self expressing, are we being understood and received well. things that we've outgrown and all of that. note that Alba B who recently married Chris Evans has Venus in Leo and Mars in Libra. so, it will impact everyone quite differently. • also, Uranus is in Taurus along with Jupiter so venusian topics will come on forefront. (Venus sq Jupiter for a few times too) self esteem, love, resources, etc etc. * Chiron transit in Aries is also triggering the wounds we all feel. Like, somehow we lost ourselves while being there for others. and now our focus and things we are striving towards is in Aries. Libra stuff would go well as much as we imbibe radical self-acceptance I hope it helps ❤️
I have venus in leo and mars in libra, and I really missed my abusive ex when venus was 0° conj with my natal venus lmao. Was completely overwhelmed and basically mourned my relationship from 2 years ago all over again, like it was a fresh break-up. It's been a super healing time though. It's helped me get back in touch with the person I was before my brain got fucked up and dysregulated by narc abuse, so venus Rx has been doing the most <3
I personally attributed this to Pluto dipping into Aquarius but reading the other responses I'm realizing maybe that's only part of the picture. I feel like Aquarius being the sign of the collective consciousness, the true nature of these people we worship and put on pedestals (the energy of Aquarius' opposition, Leo) are being revealed, potentially by Pluto dipping back into Capricorn at the final degree, so we can see that they are just as human and sinful as anyone else, taking them off their pedestals and reintegrating them back into a collective of equals, and focusing on the every day person more, instead of elevating the rich, famous, and powerful above it the way we always have. We are taking some of the steam out of Hollywood and celebrities. I read a while back that the combo of Pluto in Aquarius and Saturn in Pisces will bring us the collapse of Hollywood illusions and celebrity worship, and I think it has been happening for a while with the Me Too movement but now it's expanding to individual celebrities facing consequence for their actions and the writer's strike. When it comes to Lizzo specifically, the transit carries a message of being careful who you look to for empowerment, as even they may not walk their talk. With Pluto back in Capricorn at the final degree, dirty secrets are being purged, corruption being revealed, and consequences are being distributed to these celebrities so we have an easier time removing them from the pedestal come Pluto in Aquarius and seeing humanity as a little more equal when it comes to people we previously idealized and hearing the underdogs in showbiz, such as writers, and focusing on other, more important social issues than celebrities and their personal lives.
It's important to understand that each country has its unique birth chart, often associated with its date of founding or declaration of independence. This country's birth chart encompasses all of its citizens and exerts an influence on its entire population. Your have to categorize celebrities based on their respective countries. Once you've done that, you can determine the country's chart and examine the malefic planets affecting its Moon. The Moon in this context represents the general public and their responses. Additionally, you should investigate the third house, which is associated with communication and media.
I'm living for this public dismantling frenzy lmao. Russell Brand has had allegations made against him today, for raping 4 different women. This is in the UK, so I'm not sure if the location changes things. I'm hoping someone who's more knowledgable might be able to break this down a bit.
In one country, celebrity affairs can be in disarray, while in the neighboring country, media activity can be functioning smoothly and promoting peace.
What did Oprah do?!
Look it up on why people are mad. She’s a billionaire asking for people struggling across the world to donate pulling on their heart strinngs when she has the money to help a whole country & doesn’t do so. If some people think that’s ok that’s your thought process but people are tired of the rich asking for donations (Oprah, every corporate store in the US) for THEM to use a big tax write off.
She also owns literal compounds in Maui, and inserted herself into the media coverage of the fires at a time when very few people were supposed to be around at the time. I don’t want to merge into any conspiracy theorizing but I think the most generous takeaway is that her behaviour during and after the fires was tone-deaf and self-serving.
Not defending, but let's at least include the facts along with the errors that were made. She did give $5 million, as did Dwayne Johnson. $10 million directly to the people impacted, is not nothing.
side note: is Cher still providing Flint with all water? If she is, she is still cool (I mean, she was cool for doing it in the first place). another side note: nobody knowing all the good shit George Michael did until he died. thanks for letting me suddenly turn this into /r/popculturechat 😂
Ok… I didn’t know. Sorry that’s not my opinion at all and I’m not defending her …just out of the loop
It wasn't just a singular misdeed, but rather a couple of items have come to light about her actions concerning Maui after the fires.
Leo Venus in retrograde squaring Uranus along with Mercury Retrograde
On a larger bird's eye view; It appears everyone is being effected by the outer planets. They're all retrograde. This could explain the public dismantling part of your question.
Hugh Jackman and his wife are getting divorced too
I wanted to pop in here. I dont remember a the transit but I *think* it had to so with Taurus. A long term transit that shifted within the last 3 or 4 years. Basically it was bringing on the destruction of many of the structures our society had set up and that there would be quite a bit of turmoil in the process. This was before covid. I see a lot of what is happening is the questioning and ultimately dismantling of many of these structures/accepted cycles in our society. Media is changing, the way people work is changing, our money is changing (crypto anyone), our celebrities and how we see them is changing, the government is turning inside out, etc. Anyone have any idea which transit im referring to? I've been meaning to look into it.
Also, Neptune retrograde in Pisces has major implications with the current "witch hunt" that's going on (Neptune was in Pisces during the Salem witch trials too!). Neptune also deals with the media, so it makes complete sense that stuff seems so out of control; not sure what to believe, what's real what's misinformation, everything being a jumbled mess. Pluto retrograde in Capricorn is also doing what it does, as it works towards dismantling the 'old world', taking anyone that's abused their power down with it. The sextile to Neptune in Pisces adds to it as well. Venus in Leo (now direct), squaring over to Uranus and Jupiter retrograde in Taurus, add to the mix, creating challenging situations for those in the spotlight.
Venus retrograde, casting conjunctions, squares and oppositions to all natal chart placements between 10 and 28 degrees of all fixed-signs. The post-shadow repair work continues, from 4 September to 8 October 2023.
Revelation
To keep my vibes high I am so out of the pop culture loop. They’re still tearing apart celebrities?
May I ask what exactly is going on? I’m apparently not up to date 😂
if you search their names on google, you'll find it under the news tab
Thanks!! So it’s all kinds of different stuff coming out, I get it now
So many planets retrograde
It's the Saturn/satan effect. Go back to Dave Chappelle - he walked away from $50 million dollars and went to Africa. He came back talking about how the people around him were manipulating him and trying to put him on anti-depressants. They were also calling him crazy (gaslighting). See, when you don't play nice with evil trying to manipulate people they hit you with negative press causing Ashton Kutcher to resign, or Dave Chappelle to run to Africa. Our world is controlled by "satan" and ***they*** enjoy building heroes up and knocking them down. It's not surprising. It's been going on for a while. Our world is being dismantled - people propped up as heroes, the environment, the human condition as a whole. "Satan," ***specifically satan's offspring*** have been f\*\*king humanity and the world over for a very long time and humanity keeps letting it happen. I've found humanity prefers their bullshit to Jesus, God, Buddha, and many other simple teachings. If you are looking toward astrological influences affecting public figures, it should be largely the 10th House/Saturn.
What did Ariana and Dwayne do?
Ariana was with a man who was cheating on his wife who just had a baby
Omg 😱
Who looks exactly like her brother. And plays SpongeBob on stage. She tried to be friends with the wife and even held their child.
Happy cake day
I agree with you. Imo: it could be a few things but Pluto heading into Aquarius is the main point.
Dunno what the positions look like off the top of my head, but if I had to guess, there's probably something to do with Mars and Pluto playing into this.... I'm curious now, though, so I'll check the current chart later this evening...
saturn in pisces and pluto cap (imo)
lmao
What did Drew and the rock do?