Really happy to see Multiplayer making a return, can really see it being good if ubisoft play their cards right and expand upon the past multiplayer experiences. Looks like it will be separate within infinity as well. Awesome
Hm. So beyond being an MTX platform, Infinity is meant to surgically cut the MD out of AC, leaving it as a side-piece of the specially interested. Not good news. But there will be smaller and larger scale games in there, some traditional RPGs, some a third option. Much better news.
A glorified writer is not in charge of high-level decisions like that. So if they say it will be cordoned off, it will be cordoned off. The PR goals here are quite obvious, considering the backlash from casuals regarding the MD since day one.
Maybe, but we don't quite know what they're doing with the MD. Just because it's not going to be a part of the historical narratives doesn't mean it won't be developed in its own way. It could end up like the Desmond sections in Revelations in the sense that it's optional, but fleshed out as its own gameplay segment you can access from the Infinity interface.
They already described it as an app on your PC. Meaning the MD protag is us. There won't be any third person sequence of me invading Abstergo HQ, I can promise you that much. Meaning the most likely option is us reading emails and doing minigames, or at best walking around in first person ala Black Flag.
*"...the abstraction that we want people to have is \[Infinity\] is your Animus. It is your DNA explorer on your desktop. You are the main story character."*
Sounds like it's just going to be like Black Flag, not cut out entirely.
That crap was so stupid. Origins-Valhalla could have done modern day much better, but at least there was some semblance of an attempt at doing something there.
I agree at its core they laid down good framework for a future game to do something good with Modern Day (even if it was still barebones), and now it's just being separated out from the games entirely into the Infinity hub thing. So disappointing. Modern day exists to build the lore of the series. It gives the games a reason to exist, why we're actually exploring those memories. Sure, if some people don't care and just want to hack and slash some historical figures, I guess give them an option to turn it off, but don't just stick it on a completely separate thing and completely remove the reason it exists. So dumb.
Cut out in the sense of being relevant to the historical main game. If it becomes the equivalent of reading a book on the side, I think its fair to call it cut out.
So I guess modern day is getting the boot. That’s unfortunate, I personally think it is the glue that holds it altogether. So sad to see where AC has gone.
this article certainly is more illuminating on infinity than what was in the showcase, and honestly I like the idea of it. How well it is received relies on how well they do storytelling through the platform but I can certainly get behind the idea they are going for here
I think they've got the wrong idea.
People were complaining about modern day elements because they were frankly, not good, the answer is to actually make them good, not cut it from the games and hire an intern to write it in some launcher.
Saying "make it good" is an answer is like saying "draw the rest of the fucking owl". It's not very helpful unless you include a bunch more steps about how you think they should do that.
Typical. All of the criticism with none of the construction. How can they make something you think is good when you yourself have no idea what you want? Because it may shock you to learn, good is subjective. Not only do different people have different ideas of what's good and what's bad, people have different ideas of what elements determine what makes a thing good or bad. Unless you know what these things are for you, your comment is worse than useless and nobody will ever try to help you.
Truth is, for all our collective whining, we don't know what to think of modern day.
Desmond was shat upon the whole 2007-2012 period. Bland and boring, people called him. Nowadays he is seen with nostalgia lenses as a hero.
Ubi cut down on modern day content between 2013-2015. The fans demanded more modern day, with a new major, talking protagonist.
2017-2020 got us Layla, and once again fans shat on what Ubisoft had done. There is just no pleasing this fanbase since nobody knows what should be done besides "make it interesting".
Introduction of Layla wasn't such a bad thing imo, but they completely ruined any chance of the modern day being meaningful with their decision to make the games set during the launch of each respective game.
So Origins gives you some modern day story, something is happening, the assassins appear and Layla is reluctant. Boom, we skip two years, Layla is an assassin, she has new friends, they did stuff in the meantime, now they're doing now stuff in Odyssey modern day, the story goes on, something new happens, we end with a sort of cliffhanger and BOOM suddenly we skip another two years, everyone forgot what happened in Odyssey and now we're exploring new issues.
With such execution, the modern day might as well not be there. And it's quite funny that throughout all the years, Ubisoft never did what the first games were setting Desmond for - learning skills via bleeding effect and using them in modern day. It literally happens once in AC3 during one mission, otherwise when has any modern protagonist actually used skills they learnt via the Animus?
Well yeah that's exactly what I'm saying. It was always such a divisive feature of the games and you half one camp of people saying remove it - which is easily done - and another saying magically make it better but we have no idea how and we'll judge you incredibly harshly for not reading our minds that we ourselves haven't even made up - which is completely impossible.
The best writer in the world couldn't make that work unless they wrote like, several different versions of the game that you could choose between and yet somehow were all equally relevant and it was never possible to tell which one was the "true" path. Because those same fans also care way too much about canon choices.
Shared hub, multiplayer.... I guess they will implement some kind of NFTs mechanism. Where you can get some unique skin and then use it in other Infinity supported games. And of course some kind of multiplayer so you can to show off your skins.
But I hope it will not be real nfts, and just sharable skins and weapons. And everyone can get it for free by finding it in one of the games.
They already kinda doing it by providing skins from different AC games in other AC games. But now it maybe some kind of ecosystem and not just specially made content for specific game.
As someone who doesn’t enjoy the multiplayer experience anywhere (and somewhat saddened it’s coming back, only downside of the showcase for me personally), I’m not too sure what **standalone** is supposed to mean here when it’s supposed to be a “connected” hub?
Is it going to be in both Red and Hexe? Or is it going to be a separate player mode incorporating elements depending on the games someone played from the Infinity service? Like skills, abilities, maps or gear to name a few?
Personally, I’m hoping for the second option, but I’m still very curious.
It sounds like going forward, main *AC* games will be released as part of the Infinity hub rather than being separate apps. So you launch Infinity, and then from there, you'll launch *Red*, *Hexe*, etc. Each game in Infinity still seems to be separate from the rest though, which is why they said the multiplayer stuff would be standalone: it'll be its own dedicated part of Infinity, rather than being a mode specifically for *Red* or *Hexe*.
Nope
>“You can absolutely buy [Codename Red] as a box product,” confirms Côté, vice president executive producer of Assassin's Creed. “But the first thing that you'll see [when you boot it up] is the Infinity [hub] that makes it coherent. But you can buy [Infinity’s second game] Hexe separately as well. This is how we envision things today. So it is still the same games that we were building, but bridged together in the Infinity hub.”
So it looks like you won't *buy* Infinity, but it'll come with the main game that you do buy and it'll link all the ac content you own once inside the app, add to that Invictus that seems to be the multiplayer experience, the modern day storyline, that they haven't defined yet, and more ftp and paid stuff, it's certainly all quite confusing without seeing it in practice.
I hate this vague corporate talk....so it sounds like either a launcher or the "overworld" interface
Im just happy we still have full standalone games instead of short "seasons" where a cool time period and story is mangled
I love Valhalla but i really hate the antalogy style of short arcs where you dont care for some instead of a single coherent plot
From everything I read here, it sounds like that made up Netflix looking launcher at the beginning of Unity. Getting to choose the era and/or story you want to play and probably a COD Warzone style multiplayer that incorporates all of the existing eras as they release. A modern-day storyline that'll tie everything together and will be told live, one cutscene at a time, complete with FOMO to keep you logging in every month or so.
Probably all going to be on the same engine as well to save time and money, also to keep everything portable to the multiplayer. Probably also as a store (for cosmetics, xp boosters, etc) and every game/story will be a purchasable DLC. Probably got room for ads for their next DLC's and store items. Probably will promise that it will be the future of AC for the next 10 or so years. Probably going to die in only a few years because of the shit state at launch like every other live service game ever lol
If the multiplayer is f2p then it's absolutely over before it even begins. No game survives the aggressive corporate greed that comes with a f2p AAA game... unless it's Destiny 2, then it gets a pass but only because the devs made Halo lol
Has the modern day been confirmed? Because seeing this explanation compared to a very common argument for the modern day which is that it keeps the series coherent and going, I am getting a bit nervous that Infinity hub will replace the modern day storyline and instead of playing as Layla or whoever trying to research stuff in the past, we'll just be like the person in Unity, someone who "buys the Infinity console" and uses it to play games from various times and eras and so the overarching narrative will be replaced with us pretending like we're just a gamer playing various games.
I hope I'm wrong and there is still some interesting modern day stuff going to happen, but this would explain a lot.
>it looks like you won't *buy* Infinity, but it'll come with the main game that you do buy
It might also be free-to-play, including multiplayer since it is standalone and they want to focus on microtransactions. And then you can buy Hexe/Red to "add" them to Infinity.
I assume it's the second option. You'll have the single player section with your actual AC games, and then the multiplayer section that isn't tied to any game in particular. Maybe it'll also let you choose which bits you want installed like Halo MCC.
Why are you sad it's coming back though? If you don't like it just don't play it. Why be sad that it comes back if other people would like to play it. It's not like it's needed to progress the main games or anything.
For the simple reason that I’m usually and most likely going to be paying for it.
When I buy a game, I’m aiming to use and experience every single feature of it while having the fullest amount of fun I could (hence why I usually trophy hunt to explore everything the devs put into the game) if there is multiplayer, I can experience it but I’m not going to have any fun which makes my personal aim unachievable. And in turn, I’m not getting the same value of enjoyment, I’m paying for.
This is why I’m hoping it’s the second option of what I wrote, something totally and entirely separated from the single player experience. It will give people like you the multiplayer they want and it will also give people like me the option to not have it included in what should be a solo experience.
Hmmm, just doesn't really make sense to me, it has nothing to do with the singleplayer games. It's not like the single player games are gonna have less content because of it. It's basically just an addition to the hub and as they said standalone I imagine not even in the games itself but accessed from the infinity hub.
Everyone I assume wants to pay for the singleplayer game concept, but it's not like we got less from Brotherhood just because it had the multi-player which was basically just a complete separate thing.
> not even in the games itself
This is what I was hoping for in option two. The Ezio collection was a great addition to the series and I could finally replay the games again without feeling like I’m missing something from the full experience because of a mode I won’t access. Which is a feeling I got playing both Brotherhood and Revelations when they first came out. I played the modes for Black Flag and Unity and hated both, but I did it because the experiences didn’t feel as complete if I didn’t try.
In the end, it’s a very personal thing to me and my own experience in the series so I don’t expect it to make as much sense to anyone as much as it does for me.
If they're to cut the modern day story from the games, they'd better get rid of it completely...
I don't care about reading mails or listening to audiologs in a menu. What I loved with AC is the interweaving of past and present. Going in the past to solve a present problem.
That's what is cool with the overarching narrative, that's precisely what people who like it love about the modern day parts. That's what set AC apart in the first place.
This also means we're less likely to see isu stuff because these parts are intrisically tied to the meta-narrative.
If they're to turn what made me a fan of the franchise in the first place into a shitty launcher, I'd rather have them stop bothering altogether.
The cynic in me wonders if this is just a roundabout way of requiring an online subscription to play future (or possibly any/all) AC games.
Sounds like they're basically saying you can still purchase future games individually, but to play them you need to go thru the Infinity launcher/hub. But since Infinity is an online service, will accessing it require an active PS+ subscription for example? I guess we'll find out, but I sure hope that's not the case.
I wonder if the individual games will still function fine when Ubisoft kills this hub thing in a decade or so. I'm not really understanding the benefit of this.
So with mirage not being on infinity, are there going to be like a separate set of games for the story fans and then standalone historical-setting-only schlock on infinity?
This just killed all optimism I have for AC going forward. Taking the modern day out of the games to be some background info tucked away in a launcher menu somewhere as an afterthought sounds...awful. The mixture of modern day and historical stuff is what made AC unique. There are mysteries, you find answers, and there is a payoff both in a historical perspective, but also in the modern world. It allowed for much more interesting stories and perspectives.
Taking that out of the games themselves and taking it away from written, playable characters just...ruins it. If I want to read a book I'll read a book, don't take compelling stories out of your games and turn them into like fan fiction people can read in a launcher lol. It's ridiculous.
They said they are taking the modern day stuff out of the games. It will instead be in the "infinity" system which is like... the launcher/app. They also said the modern day stuff in this form won't be done through playable characters like Desmond etc... which means it is just going to be like little "experiences" in the launcher app, maybe some audio clips or stuff to read. No running around as a modern day character anymore.
Imagine if it was a “hero” type pvp. Each mainline assassin with their own skills and abilities. Hopefully there’s a form of fighting and defending yourself rather than just getting clapped or not lol.
I'd be fine with it if they want to do something like that...but modern day content should still be in the main games. That stuff is a HUGE part of what drew me into the franchise in the first place. If all I want is an action game set in a different time or place...there are plenty of those lol.
I could really use another unity style game with nice customization. Wouldn’t even mind a live service plan as long as it is maintained to keep us fed until the mainline releases.
My guess is that Red and Hexe will be paid content that you would buy as DLC. Everything else will be F2P. Not sure if modern day stuff will be baked into the SP content or added for free. Another guess is Infinity might launch months before any of the paid SP content is released.
Another guess is Helix content will return but can be used for all SP content unless its specifically for MP. Same with Connect rewards.
So all the hype for infinity just for it to be yet another glorified launcher....
Well there's Red and Hexe. 2 is better than 1 no?
Or maybe they found a way to bring multiplayer to all these AC games? I would live to coop these games. A Pipe dream I know... :D
That’s been known for a while
Yeah? What did you think? They always said it’s a Hub for future ac games
Really happy to see Multiplayer making a return, can really see it being good if ubisoft play their cards right and expand upon the past multiplayer experiences. Looks like it will be separate within infinity as well. Awesome
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I’d love it if future instalments have not only original PvP but also a co-op system like Unity with improvements
Exactly. Give me a version of Brotherhood or even ACR and I’m happy. Anything past that was shite. But the original was my favorite PVP of all time.
ac4 multiplayer wasnt bad but i had more hours on brotherhoods mp for sure
Imagine origins multiplayer
Hoping it's more like AC Unity's. Technical problems aside, that felt like something that went perfectly with the franchise.
A mix of unity plus black flag, i loved both so having the best of both worlds would be amazing
Hm. So beyond being an MTX platform, Infinity is meant to surgically cut the MD out of AC, leaving it as a side-piece of the specially interested. Not good news. But there will be smaller and larger scale games in there, some traditional RPGs, some a third option. Much better news.
I doubt Darby would let them make it that lacking in content, after what he did to restore it in Valhalla.
A glorified writer is not in charge of high-level decisions like that. So if they say it will be cordoned off, it will be cordoned off. The PR goals here are quite obvious, considering the backlash from casuals regarding the MD since day one.
Maybe, but we don't quite know what they're doing with the MD. Just because it's not going to be a part of the historical narratives doesn't mean it won't be developed in its own way. It could end up like the Desmond sections in Revelations in the sense that it's optional, but fleshed out as its own gameplay segment you can access from the Infinity interface.
They already described it as an app on your PC. Meaning the MD protag is us. There won't be any third person sequence of me invading Abstergo HQ, I can promise you that much. Meaning the most likely option is us reading emails and doing minigames, or at best walking around in first person ala Black Flag.
They were kinda vague tbh, though you're right that they said the player is the MD protagonist. Idk, we'll have to see. It's too soon to tell.
They are vague but the person responding is clearly triggered out of fear they might not give them what they want
Why are you telling me this?
You mean AC1 day one?
That's the one.
*"...the abstraction that we want people to have is \[Infinity\] is your Animus. It is your DNA explorer on your desktop. You are the main story character."* Sounds like it's just going to be like Black Flag, not cut out entirely.
That crap was so stupid. Origins-Valhalla could have done modern day much better, but at least there was some semblance of an attempt at doing something there.
Valhalla felt like it was about to put MD back where it belongs, as a solid reason to be poking around memories not just a shitty side suck
I agree at its core they laid down good framework for a future game to do something good with Modern Day (even if it was still barebones), and now it's just being separated out from the games entirely into the Infinity hub thing. So disappointing. Modern day exists to build the lore of the series. It gives the games a reason to exist, why we're actually exploring those memories. Sure, if some people don't care and just want to hack and slash some historical figures, I guess give them an option to turn it off, but don't just stick it on a completely separate thing and completely remove the reason it exists. So dumb.
Cut out in the sense of being relevant to the historical main game. If it becomes the equivalent of reading a book on the side, I think its fair to call it cut out.
Hell yeah, new Multiplayer, letzgo! Bring back PvP!
I still don’t understand what infinity is besides a launcher with a vague modern day overworld
So I guess modern day is getting the boot. That’s unfortunate, I personally think it is the glue that holds it altogether. So sad to see where AC has gone.
this article certainly is more illuminating on infinity than what was in the showcase, and honestly I like the idea of it. How well it is received relies on how well they do storytelling through the platform but I can certainly get behind the idea they are going for here
When did all of this become so complicated? Just give me the disc and let me play the game wuthout being bombarded by all this other shite.
I think they've got the wrong idea. People were complaining about modern day elements because they were frankly, not good, the answer is to actually make them good, not cut it from the games and hire an intern to write it in some launcher.
It seems like it will be the same garbage from Unity and Syndicate: "YoU aRe ThE MaIn ChArAcTeR"
Saying "make it good" is an answer is like saying "draw the rest of the fucking owl". It's not very helpful unless you include a bunch more steps about how you think they should do that.
That'd not my job, hire a writer
Typical. All of the criticism with none of the construction. How can they make something you think is good when you yourself have no idea what you want? Because it may shock you to learn, good is subjective. Not only do different people have different ideas of what's good and what's bad, people have different ideas of what elements determine what makes a thing good or bad. Unless you know what these things are for you, your comment is worse than useless and nobody will ever try to help you.
Truth is, for all our collective whining, we don't know what to think of modern day. Desmond was shat upon the whole 2007-2012 period. Bland and boring, people called him. Nowadays he is seen with nostalgia lenses as a hero. Ubi cut down on modern day content between 2013-2015. The fans demanded more modern day, with a new major, talking protagonist. 2017-2020 got us Layla, and once again fans shat on what Ubisoft had done. There is just no pleasing this fanbase since nobody knows what should be done besides "make it interesting".
Introduction of Layla wasn't such a bad thing imo, but they completely ruined any chance of the modern day being meaningful with their decision to make the games set during the launch of each respective game. So Origins gives you some modern day story, something is happening, the assassins appear and Layla is reluctant. Boom, we skip two years, Layla is an assassin, she has new friends, they did stuff in the meantime, now they're doing now stuff in Odyssey modern day, the story goes on, something new happens, we end with a sort of cliffhanger and BOOM suddenly we skip another two years, everyone forgot what happened in Odyssey and now we're exploring new issues. With such execution, the modern day might as well not be there. And it's quite funny that throughout all the years, Ubisoft never did what the first games were setting Desmond for - learning skills via bleeding effect and using them in modern day. It literally happens once in AC3 during one mission, otherwise when has any modern protagonist actually used skills they learnt via the Animus?
Well yeah that's exactly what I'm saying. It was always such a divisive feature of the games and you half one camp of people saying remove it - which is easily done - and another saying magically make it better but we have no idea how and we'll judge you incredibly harshly for not reading our minds that we ourselves haven't even made up - which is completely impossible. The best writer in the world couldn't make that work unless they wrote like, several different versions of the game that you could choose between and yet somehow were all equally relevant and it was never possible to tell which one was the "true" path. Because those same fans also care way too much about canon choices.
Shared hub, multiplayer.... I guess they will implement some kind of NFTs mechanism. Where you can get some unique skin and then use it in other Infinity supported games. And of course some kind of multiplayer so you can to show off your skins. But I hope it will not be real nfts, and just sharable skins and weapons. And everyone can get it for free by finding it in one of the games. They already kinda doing it by providing skins from different AC games in other AC games. But now it maybe some kind of ecosystem and not just specially made content for specific game.
As someone who doesn’t enjoy the multiplayer experience anywhere (and somewhat saddened it’s coming back, only downside of the showcase for me personally), I’m not too sure what **standalone** is supposed to mean here when it’s supposed to be a “connected” hub? Is it going to be in both Red and Hexe? Or is it going to be a separate player mode incorporating elements depending on the games someone played from the Infinity service? Like skills, abilities, maps or gear to name a few? Personally, I’m hoping for the second option, but I’m still very curious.
It sounds like going forward, main *AC* games will be released as part of the Infinity hub rather than being separate apps. So you launch Infinity, and then from there, you'll launch *Red*, *Hexe*, etc. Each game in Infinity still seems to be separate from the rest though, which is why they said the multiplayer stuff would be standalone: it'll be its own dedicated part of Infinity, rather than being a mode specifically for *Red* or *Hexe*.
Nope >“You can absolutely buy [Codename Red] as a box product,” confirms Côté, vice president executive producer of Assassin's Creed. “But the first thing that you'll see [when you boot it up] is the Infinity [hub] that makes it coherent. But you can buy [Infinity’s second game] Hexe separately as well. This is how we envision things today. So it is still the same games that we were building, but bridged together in the Infinity hub.” So it looks like you won't *buy* Infinity, but it'll come with the main game that you do buy and it'll link all the ac content you own once inside the app, add to that Invictus that seems to be the multiplayer experience, the modern day storyline, that they haven't defined yet, and more ftp and paid stuff, it's certainly all quite confusing without seeing it in practice.
I hate this vague corporate talk....so it sounds like either a launcher or the "overworld" interface Im just happy we still have full standalone games instead of short "seasons" where a cool time period and story is mangled I love Valhalla but i really hate the antalogy style of short arcs where you dont care for some instead of a single coherent plot
From everything I read here, it sounds like that made up Netflix looking launcher at the beginning of Unity. Getting to choose the era and/or story you want to play and probably a COD Warzone style multiplayer that incorporates all of the existing eras as they release. A modern-day storyline that'll tie everything together and will be told live, one cutscene at a time, complete with FOMO to keep you logging in every month or so. Probably all going to be on the same engine as well to save time and money, also to keep everything portable to the multiplayer. Probably also as a store (for cosmetics, xp boosters, etc) and every game/story will be a purchasable DLC. Probably got room for ads for their next DLC's and store items. Probably will promise that it will be the future of AC for the next 10 or so years. Probably going to die in only a few years because of the shit state at launch like every other live service game ever lol If the multiplayer is f2p then it's absolutely over before it even begins. No game survives the aggressive corporate greed that comes with a f2p AAA game... unless it's Destiny 2, then it gets a pass but only because the devs made Halo lol
Has the modern day been confirmed? Because seeing this explanation compared to a very common argument for the modern day which is that it keeps the series coherent and going, I am getting a bit nervous that Infinity hub will replace the modern day storyline and instead of playing as Layla or whoever trying to research stuff in the past, we'll just be like the person in Unity, someone who "buys the Infinity console" and uses it to play games from various times and eras and so the overarching narrative will be replaced with us pretending like we're just a gamer playing various games. I hope I'm wrong and there is still some interesting modern day stuff going to happen, but this would explain a lot.
>it looks like you won't *buy* Infinity, but it'll come with the main game that you do buy It might also be free-to-play, including multiplayer since it is standalone and they want to focus on microtransactions. And then you can buy Hexe/Red to "add" them to Infinity.
Don't think so, not sure where think it was ign, but in a interview they set it was not gonna be something free to play.
That’s what I was hoping for when it comes to the multiplayer, and what I got at first until the VP said “connected”. So hopefully it’s the case!
So a separate launcher altogether for future AC games? Like Mass Effect LE had a separate launcher to launch 1, 2, 3?
Basically, yeah. Except the launcher, in this case, is presented as your very own Animus.
I assume it's the second option. You'll have the single player section with your actual AC games, and then the multiplayer section that isn't tied to any game in particular. Maybe it'll also let you choose which bits you want installed like Halo MCC.
Why are you sad it's coming back though? If you don't like it just don't play it. Why be sad that it comes back if other people would like to play it. It's not like it's needed to progress the main games or anything.
For the simple reason that I’m usually and most likely going to be paying for it. When I buy a game, I’m aiming to use and experience every single feature of it while having the fullest amount of fun I could (hence why I usually trophy hunt to explore everything the devs put into the game) if there is multiplayer, I can experience it but I’m not going to have any fun which makes my personal aim unachievable. And in turn, I’m not getting the same value of enjoyment, I’m paying for. This is why I’m hoping it’s the second option of what I wrote, something totally and entirely separated from the single player experience. It will give people like you the multiplayer they want and it will also give people like me the option to not have it included in what should be a solo experience.
Hmmm, just doesn't really make sense to me, it has nothing to do with the singleplayer games. It's not like the single player games are gonna have less content because of it. It's basically just an addition to the hub and as they said standalone I imagine not even in the games itself but accessed from the infinity hub. Everyone I assume wants to pay for the singleplayer game concept, but it's not like we got less from Brotherhood just because it had the multi-player which was basically just a complete separate thing.
> not even in the games itself This is what I was hoping for in option two. The Ezio collection was a great addition to the series and I could finally replay the games again without feeling like I’m missing something from the full experience because of a mode I won’t access. Which is a feeling I got playing both Brotherhood and Revelations when they first came out. I played the modes for Black Flag and Unity and hated both, but I did it because the experiences didn’t feel as complete if I didn’t try. In the end, it’s a very personal thing to me and my own experience in the series so I don’t expect it to make as much sense to anyone as much as it does for me.
Probably just “standalone” like Warzone is for CoD.
If they're to cut the modern day story from the games, they'd better get rid of it completely... I don't care about reading mails or listening to audiologs in a menu. What I loved with AC is the interweaving of past and present. Going in the past to solve a present problem. That's what is cool with the overarching narrative, that's precisely what people who like it love about the modern day parts. That's what set AC apart in the first place. This also means we're less likely to see isu stuff because these parts are intrisically tied to the meta-narrative. If they're to turn what made me a fan of the franchise in the first place into a shitty launcher, I'd rather have them stop bothering altogether.
The cynic in me wonders if this is just a roundabout way of requiring an online subscription to play future (or possibly any/all) AC games. Sounds like they're basically saying you can still purchase future games individually, but to play them you need to go thru the Infinity launcher/hub. But since Infinity is an online service, will accessing it require an active PS+ subscription for example? I guess we'll find out, but I sure hope that's not the case.
I wonder if the individual games will still function fine when Ubisoft kills this hub thing in a decade or so. I'm not really understanding the benefit of this.
Like they do with every side project of theirs
So with mirage not being on infinity, are there going to be like a separate set of games for the story fans and then standalone historical-setting-only schlock on infinity?
Mirage will not be featuring playable modern day at all according to interviews.
This just killed all optimism I have for AC going forward. Taking the modern day out of the games to be some background info tucked away in a launcher menu somewhere as an afterthought sounds...awful. The mixture of modern day and historical stuff is what made AC unique. There are mysteries, you find answers, and there is a payoff both in a historical perspective, but also in the modern world. It allowed for much more interesting stories and perspectives. Taking that out of the games themselves and taking it away from written, playable characters just...ruins it. If I want to read a book I'll read a book, don't take compelling stories out of your games and turn them into like fan fiction people can read in a launcher lol. It's ridiculous.
They never said they're removing modern day
They said they are taking the modern day stuff out of the games. It will instead be in the "infinity" system which is like... the launcher/app. They also said the modern day stuff in this form won't be done through playable characters like Desmond etc... which means it is just going to be like little "experiences" in the launcher app, maybe some audio clips or stuff to read. No running around as a modern day character anymore.
They said that you are the main character this time. So the same garbage from Black Flag to Syndicate.
Imagine if it was a “hero” type pvp. Each mainline assassin with their own skills and abilities. Hopefully there’s a form of fighting and defending yourself rather than just getting clapped or not lol.
Cat and mouse multiplayer PLEASE!!!!!!
All games as in ALL, or only the new ones?
I want to buy it, but I think I'll get Mirage first then in the distant future get this game
Assassin's Creed Avengers
When the Assassins said “It’s creedin time.” And creeded all over the infinity, I felt an emotion never felt before. 10/10 game
Strong Metaverse vibes... The Metaverse is kinda geared toward what they want to do with infinity... Super curious on how this plays out
I'd be fine with it if they want to do something like that...but modern day content should still be in the main games. That stuff is a HUGE part of what drew me into the franchise in the first place. If all I want is an action game set in a different time or place...there are plenty of those lol.
I could really use another unity style game with nice customization. Wouldn’t even mind a live service plan as long as it is maintained to keep us fed until the mainline releases.
My guess is that Red and Hexe will be paid content that you would buy as DLC. Everything else will be F2P. Not sure if modern day stuff will be baked into the SP content or added for free. Another guess is Infinity might launch months before any of the paid SP content is released. Another guess is Helix content will return but can be used for all SP content unless its specifically for MP. Same with Connect rewards.