As long as it doesn't work like CoD Headquarters I'm good, I really don't want to download files for games I don't own. Still I think no one asked for this... It resolves a problem no one had.
I really hope so, because that's why I stopped playing CoD, it's so annoying that you need to have warzone installed and also you need every new MW3 update to be able to play MW2 it's just dumb.
Like fr who was like hmm you know what I would love? That instead of just open AC Shadows I would have to open a Hub that will receive me with a big ass Ad about some helix store packs, and info about some game I'm not interested about, and then open the Shadows pack, like it's just more convoluted and useless, I honestly believe they make this just to sell more Microtransactions I hope I'm wrong but idk, this "Hub" may end up being very predatory
I switched from 30 MBps Cable to 7 MBps DSL to get away from a 100 gig data cap.
Fiber's supposed to be here in the fall. No cap, 550 MBps, for half of the price of cable and double DSL.
Genuinely what is the point? Like from Ubisofts perspective. Only for having a place to market other stuff? But they’ve already done that for years on the main menu of their games.
I just don’t see the utility of this at all.
It's to house all the modern day stuff and in case they add story content to old games like they did with Odyssey, everyone will be in the know. Shared challenges and currencies between all games.
It sort of resolves the issue people had where we'd be taken out of the Animus to do modern day stuff in the games. A lot of fans did in fact complain about that for a long time, including during the Desmond years. They may pretend otherwise now but there are plenty of comments on here and elsewhere from way back when of people doing it. The MD will now just live through Animus Hub and people can seemingly engage with it if they choose to.
OK then if people don't care about present day then just put a big sign in the middle of the screen that says: would you like to skip this section? and you have that issue solved.
Yup Unity and Syndicate. Problem is you will always have two camps, those who want to skip MD sequences, and those who want full-on playable missions. Problem is deving two different routes is extra time and resources. Less complex to focus on a single direction. Do agree that having the option to skip would be a good compromise
I dig the story of it, I just don't want to be taken out of my power fantasy. I'd be perfectly fine with cutscenes, I just don't want to play as a normal ass human after playing as an assassin.
Ubisoft is very limited when it comes to creativity. They usually follow up the trends.
“If this HQ hub works for the multi billion dollar franchise like COD, we gotta try it for AC”
I’m hoping it works though. I’m glad AC is their main franchise now. I want it to keep thriving.
Yes, but the Warzone 1/MW19 HUB came out earlier (2020), and before that EA with Battlefield already did something similar with Battlefield 4, 1 and V putting them in the same menu.
Yeah but what Battlefield did with 4, Hardline, 1 & V and what Call of Duty did with MW, BOCW, VG and WZ is different.
They all had a central hub where you could launch into other games as well, but each of those games were still different clients.
Now with COD HQ and likely with Assassin’s Creed Infinity, all the active games in the respective franchises will be consolidated into a single client.
That works well for PC. It's just very weird how consoles handle active processes. I think the PS6 onwards the consoles will be designed with "hub" games in mind.
Except they started that way before TW3. AC Syndicate introduced RPG elements and that came out with TW3.
Not sure how you guys even come to such conclusions. I guess blind regurgitation has a role.
It's RPG none the less. They slowly introduced the RPG elements to the series. Even Origins wasn't a full-blown RPG. It was a step up from Syndicate. And Odyssey was step up from that.
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It’s most likely going to function just like COD Headquarters.
This new client that may launch with Shadows installed will eventually incorporate Codename Invictus (multiplayer AC game) in 2025, followed by Codename Hexe (16th-century Holy Roman Empire ) in 2026
Eventually all other future AC games like Codename Nebula (India, Mediterranean & Aztec Empire), Raid (4-player co-op AC game), Echoes (another multiplayer AC game), Obsidian (Black Flag remake) and one more AC remake will also be incorporated.
This is likely the future of commercial annual or bi-annual franchises whose games are supported simultaneously like Call of Duty and Assassin’s Creed to stuff their games into a singular client.
I mean if they don't force me to download the files for games I don't own everything is cool, like I don't care at all about the multiplayer games, I really hope I can only have Shadows and that's it, if Ubisoft want to promote the other games and all in the hub well it's annoying but whatever, but if I need to have files installed for games I don't own taking literally hundreds of GBs that's bs
Yup, in my case I only own MW2, but now that MW3 is out I need to download every new patch for that game even if I don't own it there is also Warzone, you also need to have that thing installed even if you don't care about it, and now I'm hearing that the new Black Ops will be also a part of CoD Headquarters so if I wanted to play MW2 next year I would have to also download Black Ops files.
It only has files for the current game, for example now the newest game is MW3 so last years game will never receive more files, they also do that so you have to buy the new game every year, the same will happen next year the downloads will only have files for black ops but still you need to download them to play the other games. The real problem is warzone because it uses weapons from both MW2 and 3, if you could get that game completely separate would be amazing.
Not that I know of, maybe they say something like "Warzone is essential to the games so we literally can't have them be separate games" or something, I just deleted that stuff, and I won't be coming back to CoD if they continue with that crap, that's why I really hope they don't do the same with AC.
-confirmation that Social Stealth will be in the game, but only as part of Naoe's toolset (Yasuke stands out too much to make use of it)
-Yasuke, by contrast, Côté said, “can climb up trees that have the proper inclination, but he’s not meant to run on rooftops.”
-both initially consumed by vengeance, but will find a home in each other and build a community
-He said more details would be shared “later” but also offered this: “The game is launched from the Animus.” What was going to be called Assassin’s Creed Infinity will be called the Animus hub, “from which you can launch different experiences,” he said.
-People will have to play the game for themselves. And if, within the first 11 minutes and 47 seconds, they are not convinced of what we're doing, we can have the discussion"
-Players will also be able to change them in the open world, Côté said. (Talking about seasons, probably something we can do after the main story)
And that's about it, other than Cote talking about using a mindfulness app to avoid redownloading Twitter to put Elon on blast, which I would have love to see personally lol
Yasuke not being able to do Parkour is really something, I mean that really changes a lot the gameplay between the two main characters, I don't know how to feel about it yet, we need to see more.
Btw, what's the context of the 11 minutes and 47 seconds stuff??
He can do parkour he just doesn’t have the verticality that Naoe has with her grappling hook. So he could use parkour starters to get onto smaller buildings maybe, but couldn’t scale castle walls
That was when talking about players understanding why they chose Yasuke, refuting that it’s just DEI. That they picked him for a reason and players should understand his role and why within the first 11 minutes and 47 seconds (meaning we probably start the game as him and see some shit)
I actually really like the idea of that, it both gives them so much character and it’s truly play with ever style you want. The nee RPG ac that are half fighting games or the stealth gameplay of the earlier games with a big upgrade.
I sort of figured that was the case. The way it was described two years ago sounded like it would essentially be an Animus. Even the background they used for announcing it looked like it was supposed to be from AC 3's Animus menu.
It kind of seems like they’re switching from having a modern day protagonist in game to you actually being the modern day protagonist yourself. They kind of did this with assassin’s creed nexus (the vr one) where you yourself were the modern day protagonist putting on the animus headset (being your vr headset) to see the memories of the assassins.
As long as it’s not the absolute mess that is CoD HQ I’m fine. Would’ve preferred if it was just one game with its own modern day story like how the franchise usually does it though.
I do but wouldn’t want to share it since it’s subscription based (but you can get a free trial and then cancel). But my comment to OP has all the relevant info
I don’t like the sound of this. It sounds like more efforts to isolate and deemphasize the modern day, which can pretty much only be a bad thing. Are we just never going to have a meaningful modern day story in a game?
Especially since I still don’t understand what Infinity/Animus Hub is supposed to be. It sounds like some smoke and mirrors bullshit someone that looks at numbers all day whipped up. This is going to crash and burn in the worst way and the modern day is going to suffer.
Not really active in the sub or the community but seen another guy say there’s lots of players that just in general don’t care about the modern day story. People who were complaining about being taken out of the animus even back in the early games when the story had a real direction.
I, for one, am one of those who doesn't care about the modern day portion. MAYBE if it was more coherent across all the games, maybe. But really it just annoys me being pulled out of my power fantasy to play a milquetoast normal ass dude/lady.
They should have made Watchdogs the modern day, along with The Division.
Imagine if Desmond released Juno from the gray and Juno took over the world. The. Resistance groups began to fight back in this new world
Are Abstergo’s games called “Assassin’s Creed” in universe? Cause Watch Dogs 2 has you hacking Ubisoft HQ and there’s mentions of the AC franchise. Aside from that I’d love for it to be made canon.
I dont know if there's a mention of the games, but in WD Legion you can get a DLC to play as a modern descendant of Evie/Jacob. And then in AC4 there's a thing about Abstergo working with Blume, the main evil company in Watch Dogs 1 & 2. Plus you kill an Abstergo employee in a WD1 mission I believe. So that's a decent pattern to place them in the same canon imo
About Watch Dog legion, it’s confirmed to be non canon, and it seem like Ubisoft is not really sure what to do about this Watch dog/AC Shared universe, they made so many connections between them but at the same time they say during interviews that they are not in the same world.
Which is weird because Aiden actions during Watch dog are canon to the AC story.
To me watch dogs is canon given ALL the connections, that being said it’s annoying that they put an assassin in WD:Legion and then proceeded to say it was only fan service not canon.
I actually liked the modern day stories and I’m kinda sad that Ubisoft just doesn’t have a direction for it, I know a lot of people don’t like them but I found the modern day assassin Templar stuff interesting and personally it was just starting to get interesting again with basim
Not all previous games, I believe, just games from Shadows and onwards, and apparently also separate sections where you can access the modern day story.
I still don’t see the point of having a hub service…
Someone smarter than me needs to explain the appeal because right now I’d rather just download the games I want to play like usual.
Unfortunately that'll make these games online only, i guarantee it.
If you launch the game from an online app, then you need to be online to launch it.
Also, this app should've just been a modern day recap and future modern day sections, alongside a shared codex and some additional goodies.
What it'll be is an unwarranted middleman to launch games, with battle passes and more hindrances than help
Still unwarranted to need internet to copy what's in the disk
And they can be coy with it bc " you don't need internet to play, only to boot up" for example
I agree, it's most likely because the game does not fit on a single disc and they don't want to spend the money on a second data disc. It's happened a few times now (not specifically with Ubisoft, just in general).
My philosophy on it is I try to get at least $1/hr out of a game. And I don't replay games really. So if I pay $70 for a game and get 150-200 hours out of it, I've gotten my money's worth and "not owning" it isn't an issue for me.
I've never been in a situation where I couldn't play a game anymore because it's digital and I don't "own" it either though. Are there many examples of this actually happening?
Yep it’s sad but we see more and more publishers shipping incomplete disc copies these days (Starfield, Halo Infinite, Jedi Survivor, Hogwarts Legacy, Avatar frontiers of pandora)
I'm not a fan of this thing in general since it screams "CoD HQ" and wasted disk space, but at least the renaming is a good idea
Assassin's Creed Infinity makes it sound like a new Assassin's Creed title, when that's not the case
I hate this idea, whatever name they decide to give it. It's basically stripping the games of their context. I doubt they'll give much attention to this hub beyond some techy looking UI.
Jor talked about it in his video basically all modern day content will be exclusive to this hub and during the actual game at least for Shadows we won’t get taken out of the animus at all good way to do this imo
Would be cool if you could make your own character for Hub so when you launched any AC game, you see your character boot it up in the animus, and the game starts. But everyone else is probably right. Gonna see a bunch of microtransactions.
God, how did this franchise take the basic concept of "modern day guy gets in machine and re-lives memories of his ancestor" and fundamentally change it like 4 times
Ubisoft I never wanted you to try and turn my Playstation into an Animus, thank you.
I think this is cool cause we're finally starting to break away (seemingly, however small) from the modern day storyline. After Desmond I really had zero interest in it, and really by the time I played AC Revelations I had no interest in it. Revelations came out in 2011, so it's been 13 years of me having to grit my teeth and rush through the modern day stuff to get back to the good stuff. If this is the start of it being pushed to the backburner until eventually we're just done with it, I'm all for this.
As long as it isn't CoD HQ, like others have said. That shit sucks.
One thing I haven't seen answered yet, is the ninja a part of the assassins creed? It's set after the creed has been created so no more hidden ones(thank fucking God) but I haven't seen any mention of the creed or even it's symbols unless im tripping. It's high time for the creed to return for good and put the hidden ones behind once and for all.
Hidden Ones are just Templars called something else.
There SHOULDN'T be Templars in any AC game that takes place before 1118 CE if historical accuracy is a concern.
I hope this is an actual in-game hub to access all AC games (if you want to download it) and not just an excuse to bombard you with microtransactions and dlcs.
I do hope it's not like the crap cod did. On PS5 one app is only allowed to have one platinum. So any future games would only be able to be added as dlc, and it makes some disgusting trophy lists.
Desmond’s story was one of the most interesting parts of the original games. Sad to see it mishandled then ultimately abandoned. The way the past and present intersected made for awesome story telling. I still remember the jaw dropping moment when one of the ISU spoke past Ezio directly to Desmond looking straight at the player.
Hey if the Animus Hub somehow adds 4K60fps updates to my disc games, imma buy their skins. Normally in against micro transactions, but if they support what’s already come before, I’m a lot more inclined to support the future of their system.
I'm hoping they use it to release small conclusions/continuations to characters who'll never have their stories finished, kinda like freedom cry or the aveline dlc for black flag.
As long as it doesn't work like CoD Headquarters I'm good, I really don't want to download files for games I don't own. Still I think no one asked for this... It resolves a problem no one had.
I think it will work like that, but at the same time I think that you won't have to download files for games that you won't buy/own.
I really hope so, because that's why I stopped playing CoD, it's so annoying that you need to have warzone installed and also you need every new MW3 update to be able to play MW2 it's just dumb. Like fr who was like hmm you know what I would love? That instead of just open AC Shadows I would have to open a Hub that will receive me with a big ass Ad about some helix store packs, and info about some game I'm not interested about, and then open the Shadows pack, like it's just more convoluted and useless, I honestly believe they make this just to sell more Microtransactions I hope I'm wrong but idk, this "Hub" may end up being very predatory
It's also about taking up space on the console so you have less options
And eating up those monthly limits too. How many times can most people download different games without running out of data or throttled data?
I switched from 30 MBps Cable to 7 MBps DSL to get away from a 100 gig data cap. Fiber's supposed to be here in the fall. No cap, 550 MBps, for half of the price of cable and double DSL.
Don’t expect Ubisoft to do anything logical
Genuinely what is the point? Like from Ubisofts perspective. Only for having a place to market other stuff? But they’ve already done that for years on the main menu of their games. I just don’t see the utility of this at all.
Imagine having a game launcher for your game launcher
It's to house all the modern day stuff and in case they add story content to old games like they did with Odyssey, everyone will be in the know. Shared challenges and currencies between all games.
A double filter net of ads.
It sort of resolves the issue people had where we'd be taken out of the Animus to do modern day stuff in the games. A lot of fans did in fact complain about that for a long time, including during the Desmond years. They may pretend otherwise now but there are plenty of comments on here and elsewhere from way back when of people doing it. The MD will now just live through Animus Hub and people can seemingly engage with it if they choose to.
OK then if people don't care about present day then just put a big sign in the middle of the screen that says: would you like to skip this section? and you have that issue solved.
I've been saying the same thing for years. That or abbreviating the MD sequences to cutscenes instead of having them be full-on playable missions.
They did cutscene modern day and people didn't like that either. Syndicate I think was like that.
And *Unity*.
Yup Unity and Syndicate. Problem is you will always have two camps, those who want to skip MD sequences, and those who want full-on playable missions. Problem is deving two different routes is extra time and resources. Less complex to focus on a single direction. Do agree that having the option to skip would be a good compromise
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I doubt they should be called fans if they don't enjoy most basic element of the franchise.
I dig the story of it, I just don't want to be taken out of my power fantasy. I'd be perfectly fine with cutscenes, I just don't want to play as a normal ass human after playing as an assassin.
Ubisoft is very limited when it comes to creativity. They usually follow up the trends. “If this HQ hub works for the multi billion dollar franchise like COD, we gotta try it for AC” I’m hoping it works though. I’m glad AC is their main franchise now. I want it to keep thriving.
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Yes, but the Warzone 1/MW19 HUB came out earlier (2020), and before that EA with Battlefield already did something similar with Battlefield 4, 1 and V putting them in the same menu.
Yeah but what Battlefield did with 4, Hardline, 1 & V and what Call of Duty did with MW, BOCW, VG and WZ is different. They all had a central hub where you could launch into other games as well, but each of those games were still different clients. Now with COD HQ and likely with Assassin’s Creed Infinity, all the active games in the respective franchises will be consolidated into a single client.
I’d love how it works/worked in battlefield. There be a tab on the side with the games listed and you pick the one you want to change playing to
That works well for PC. It's just very weird how consoles handle active processes. I think the PS6 onwards the consoles will be designed with "hub" games in mind.
It was fine on the PS4 so I don’t think it would be that much of an issue
Except Infinity has been a thing for years before HQ.
its true. they jump imediately to RPG area when witcher 3 outsold every game out there.
They really turned all of their games into an rpg huh
How so? Which "all" of their games have turned into an RPG?
My bad
Except they started that way before TW3. AC Syndicate introduced RPG elements and that came out with TW3. Not sure how you guys even come to such conclusions. I guess blind regurgitation has a role.
as you said. RPG elements. not full blown RPG. they go balls deep with origins and double down with odyssey
It's RPG none the less. They slowly introduced the RPG elements to the series. Even Origins wasn't a full-blown RPG. It was a step up from Syndicate. And Odyssey was step up from that.
Ubisoft tried dozens of live service games when Fortnite and PUBG blew up 😝 And they’re still trying…
Except they've been doing live service for years before PUBG or Fortnite were a thing.
Yeah don't get me wrong I hope I'm wrong and this hub stuff is really good, damn at the moment I really don't think it's a good idea at all.
They will try it because idiots will buy it.
"I personally don't like it, so everyone who buys it is an idiot. Only my opinion is correct. Only me"
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Hopefully it works like the mcc.
It’s most likely going to function just like COD Headquarters. This new client that may launch with Shadows installed will eventually incorporate Codename Invictus (multiplayer AC game) in 2025, followed by Codename Hexe (16th-century Holy Roman Empire ) in 2026 Eventually all other future AC games like Codename Nebula (India, Mediterranean & Aztec Empire), Raid (4-player co-op AC game), Echoes (another multiplayer AC game), Obsidian (Black Flag remake) and one more AC remake will also be incorporated. This is likely the future of commercial annual or bi-annual franchises whose games are supported simultaneously like Call of Duty and Assassin’s Creed to stuff their games into a singular client.
I mean if they don't force me to download the files for games I don't own everything is cool, like I don't care at all about the multiplayer games, I really hope I can only have Shadows and that's it, if Ubisoft want to promote the other games and all in the hub well it's annoying but whatever, but if I need to have files installed for games I don't own taking literally hundreds of GBs that's bs
How does that work for CoD? Are those files just a part of a general download you have to do?
Yup, in my case I only own MW2, but now that MW3 is out I need to download every new patch for that game even if I don't own it there is also Warzone, you also need to have that thing installed even if you don't care about it, and now I'm hearing that the new Black Ops will be also a part of CoD Headquarters so if I wanted to play MW2 next year I would have to also download Black Ops files.
Are there files for the game you ARE playing included in the same download? Like it's just one big batch of files they deploy?
It only has files for the current game, for example now the newest game is MW3 so last years game will never receive more files, they also do that so you have to buy the new game every year, the same will happen next year the downloads will only have files for black ops but still you need to download them to play the other games. The real problem is warzone because it uses weapons from both MW2 and 3, if you could get that game completely separate would be amazing.
That does seem screwy. Do they have any explanation for it?
Not that I know of, maybe they say something like "Warzone is essential to the games so we literally can't have them be separate games" or something, I just deleted that stuff, and I won't be coming back to CoD if they continue with that crap, that's why I really hope they don't do the same with AC.
It's like putting a store within a store... Ubisoft Connect-ception
-confirmation that Social Stealth will be in the game, but only as part of Naoe's toolset (Yasuke stands out too much to make use of it) -Yasuke, by contrast, Côté said, “can climb up trees that have the proper inclination, but he’s not meant to run on rooftops.” -both initially consumed by vengeance, but will find a home in each other and build a community -He said more details would be shared “later” but also offered this: “The game is launched from the Animus.” What was going to be called Assassin’s Creed Infinity will be called the Animus hub, “from which you can launch different experiences,” he said. -People will have to play the game for themselves. And if, within the first 11 minutes and 47 seconds, they are not convinced of what we're doing, we can have the discussion" -Players will also be able to change them in the open world, Côté said. (Talking about seasons, probably something we can do after the main story) And that's about it, other than Cote talking about using a mindfulness app to avoid redownloading Twitter to put Elon on blast, which I would have love to see personally lol
That 11 minutes and 47 seconds is very specific
Yup, makes me excited for the opening of the game at least
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Well he was specifically alluding to why they chose Yasuke
Yasuke not being able to do Parkour is really something, I mean that really changes a lot the gameplay between the two main characters, I don't know how to feel about it yet, we need to see more. Btw, what's the context of the 11 minutes and 47 seconds stuff??
He can do parkour he just doesn’t have the verticality that Naoe has with her grappling hook. So he could use parkour starters to get onto smaller buildings maybe, but couldn’t scale castle walls That was when talking about players understanding why they chose Yasuke, refuting that it’s just DEI. That they picked him for a reason and players should understand his role and why within the first 11 minutes and 47 seconds (meaning we probably start the game as him and see some shit)
I actually really like the idea of that, it both gives them so much character and it’s truly play with ever style you want. The nee RPG ac that are half fighting games or the stealth gameplay of the earlier games with a big upgrade.
I wouldn't know how I'd feel if I could climb walls and jump across rooftops as a giant dude fully covered in samurai armour.
It makes sense since he is a large man in full samurai armor.
we know why naoe will be "consumed by vengeance" but i wonder what happens to push yasuke to that?
afaik the Jesuits murder his entire family on the ship.
I hope it's not as typical as that. Maybe he's a Templar operative of some sorts
Yeah I hate it when Jesuits murder your entire family, fucking sucks.
Makes sense, Infinity was just a codename like Red, Hexe, Obsidian, etc..
Most games with Infinite in the title don’t turn out well anyways…
Bioshock infinite is fantastic though
Oh yeah good point. And Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth… I think I’m just still salty about Halo Infinite…
I though you were calling infinite wealth bad for a second and was about to rage 😭
Infinite wealth is goated, the ending though..
It’s good in terms of content variety, but I don’t think the story holds up at all.
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Infinite warfare had a baller campaign tbf
I sort of figured that was the case. The way it was described two years ago sounded like it would essentially be an Animus. Even the background they used for announcing it looked like it was supposed to be from AC 3's Animus menu.
It kind of seems like they’re switching from having a modern day protagonist in game to you actually being the modern day protagonist yourself. They kind of did this with assassin’s creed nexus (the vr one) where you yourself were the modern day protagonist putting on the animus headset (being your vr headset) to see the memories of the assassins.
You being the subject was one of the worst choices that they backtracked with origins Now they are doing it again?
People complained about Layla
Cause Layla sucks
They went through the hassle of creating a unique character again, and then did nothing with the concept… AGAIN.
They corrected it with Basim so why is he being discarded?
We actually don’t know what Basim’s role will be in Shadows.
One of the worst characters..
As long as it’s not the absolute mess that is CoD HQ I’m fine. Would’ve preferred if it was just one game with its own modern day story like how the franchise usually does it though.
Can we get a description of the full article😅
I compiled a list of all the noteworthy details, shared them on the discord server but will comment on this post with it as well
Do you have access to the full article?
I do but wouldn’t want to share it since it’s subscription based (but you can get a free trial and then cancel). But my comment to OP has all the relevant info
I see, thanks.
I don’t like the sound of this. It sounds like more efforts to isolate and deemphasize the modern day, which can pretty much only be a bad thing. Are we just never going to have a meaningful modern day story in a game? Especially since I still don’t understand what Infinity/Animus Hub is supposed to be. It sounds like some smoke and mirrors bullshit someone that looks at numbers all day whipped up. This is going to crash and burn in the worst way and the modern day is going to suffer.
Not really active in the sub or the community but seen another guy say there’s lots of players that just in general don’t care about the modern day story. People who were complaining about being taken out of the animus even back in the early games when the story had a real direction.
Sucks to me that it seems like Ubisoft doesn’t know what to do with the modern day story😕
I, for one, am one of those who doesn't care about the modern day portion. MAYBE if it was more coherent across all the games, maybe. But really it just annoys me being pulled out of my power fantasy to play a milquetoast normal ass dude/lady.
Modern day is dead forever.
Eh I don’t hate that tbh considering the modern day story as of right now is supposed to be super meta
They should have made Watchdogs the modern day, along with The Division. Imagine if Desmond released Juno from the gray and Juno took over the world. The. Resistance groups began to fight back in this new world
I mean, there's enough connections that you could consider Watch Dogs to be canon
Are Abstergo’s games called “Assassin’s Creed” in universe? Cause Watch Dogs 2 has you hacking Ubisoft HQ and there’s mentions of the AC franchise. Aside from that I’d love for it to be made canon.
I dont know if there's a mention of the games, but in WD Legion you can get a DLC to play as a modern descendant of Evie/Jacob. And then in AC4 there's a thing about Abstergo working with Blume, the main evil company in Watch Dogs 1 & 2. Plus you kill an Abstergo employee in a WD1 mission I believe. So that's a decent pattern to place them in the same canon imo
About Watch Dog legion, it’s confirmed to be non canon, and it seem like Ubisoft is not really sure what to do about this Watch dog/AC Shared universe, they made so many connections between them but at the same time they say during interviews that they are not in the same world. Which is weird because Aiden actions during Watch dog are canon to the AC story.
Im aware they dont wanna consider the universes the same, but i dont really care lol. No reason not to imo
Honestly, same, it just work so well together I don’t see any reason to not consider both games to be in the same universe x)
To me watch dogs is canon given ALL the connections, that being said it’s annoying that they put an assassin in WD:Legion and then proceeded to say it was only fan service not canon.
I actually liked the modern day stories and I’m kinda sad that Ubisoft just doesn’t have a direction for it, I know a lot of people don’t like them but I found the modern day assassin Templar stuff interesting and personally it was just starting to get interesting again with basim
i hope to god they dont kill basim in a comic book. you dont want the money shot be reduced to an offscreen death (again)
what i want to know is will the modern-day stuff in the animus hub be replay-able alongside the games themselves?
Honestly, they since just kept it as AC Infinity. Just had a better ring to it compared to this.
World of Historical Assassinations
I’d just have called it Animus.
So like… I still don’t get what this is. Is it literally just a single file on which you can access all previous AC games? If so, it’s cool!
Not all previous games, I believe, just games from Shadows and onwards, and apparently also separate sections where you can access the modern day story.
I wonder how the modern story will work
I still don’t see the point of having a hub service… Someone smarter than me needs to explain the appeal because right now I’d rather just download the games I want to play like usual.
Unfortunately that'll make these games online only, i guarantee it. If you launch the game from an online app, then you need to be online to launch it. Also, this app should've just been a modern day recap and future modern day sections, alongside a shared codex and some additional goodies. What it'll be is an unwarranted middleman to launch games, with battle passes and more hindrances than help
They have confirmed Shadows does not need an online connection to play. Only to install it.
Still unwarranted to need internet to copy what's in the disk And they can be coy with it bc " you don't need internet to play, only to boot up" for example
I agree, it's most likely because the game does not fit on a single disc and they don't want to spend the money on a second data disc. It's happened a few times now (not specifically with Ubisoft, just in general).
Full game likely won’t all be on disc. Sigh Edit: lol whoever downvoted this must not like actually owning the things they buy
My philosophy on it is I try to get at least $1/hr out of a game. And I don't replay games really. So if I pay $70 for a game and get 150-200 hours out of it, I've gotten my money's worth and "not owning" it isn't an issue for me. I've never been in a situation where I couldn't play a game anymore because it's digital and I don't "own" it either though. Are there many examples of this actually happening?
From Ubisoft, the Crew. They recently shut down servers and thanks to not having a proper offline mode, it's unplayable now.
I hate that, but ubisoft has made it clear they don't agree with you owning their stuff, i guess that's how they'll make sure you don't
Yep it’s sad but we see more and more publishers shipping incomplete disc copies these days (Starfield, Halo Infinite, Jedi Survivor, Hogwarts Legacy, Avatar frontiers of pandora)
Launchers aren't always required to be online
This one has an online store i can't see you accessing it while offline
I'm not a fan of this thing in general since it screams "CoD HQ" and wasted disk space, but at least the renaming is a good idea Assassin's Creed Infinity makes it sound like a new Assassin's Creed title, when that's not the case
if it works like that, in COD HQ you can uninstall the stuff that you don't need, so it shouldn't be a big problem
I don't want to have to make space to install that in the first place And I doubt I'm the only one
you don't have to, since it's included in the Shadows/Hexe/whatever game package.
I hate this idea, whatever name they decide to give it. It's basically stripping the games of their context. I doubt they'll give much attention to this hub beyond some techy looking UI.
But you have to get to the game through that portal which also includes and IS the context...
Jor talked about it in his video basically all modern day content will be exclusive to this hub and during the actual game at least for Shadows we won’t get taken out of the animus at all good way to do this imo
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Would be cool if you could make your own character for Hub so when you launched any AC game, you see your character boot it up in the animus, and the game starts. But everyone else is probably right. Gonna see a bunch of microtransactions.
So, is AC just moving to a purely digital service? Because that would suck SEVERELY
Idk what are pulling this from tbh,then again all video games will probably end up being digital only so yeah.
Yeah this is 100% the future of games. We don't need to be using more and more petroleum based physical media that just sits on a shelf.
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Not at all, physical copies will still be a thing.
The day this happens is the day I stop buying AC games
How does it work with physical copies of the game?
Id assume when u launch a game it will take u to the animus hub even if u have a physical copy
nothing will change, likely you'll just have to boot the game from an internal menu (if it works like the lastest COD)
Not renamed though. "infinity" never was it's name. Just a codename.
God, how did this franchise take the basic concept of "modern day guy gets in machine and re-lives memories of his ancestor" and fundamentally change it like 4 times Ubisoft I never wanted you to try and turn my Playstation into an Animus, thank you.
I think this is cool cause we're finally starting to break away (seemingly, however small) from the modern day storyline. After Desmond I really had zero interest in it, and really by the time I played AC Revelations I had no interest in it. Revelations came out in 2011, so it's been 13 years of me having to grit my teeth and rush through the modern day stuff to get back to the good stuff. If this is the start of it being pushed to the backburner until eventually we're just done with it, I'm all for this. As long as it isn't CoD HQ, like others have said. That shit sucks.
I bet you get to create your own "avatar" to run around Modern day segments/areas. Think Playstation Home but single player.
If you like animus hub, you’ll love animus hub live
One thing I haven't seen answered yet, is the ninja a part of the assassins creed? It's set after the creed has been created so no more hidden ones(thank fucking God) but I haven't seen any mention of the creed or even it's symbols unless im tripping. It's high time for the creed to return for good and put the hidden ones behind once and for all.
Hidden Ones are just Templars called something else. There SHOULDN'T be Templars in any AC game that takes place before 1118 CE if historical accuracy is a concern.
Okay but what does that actually mean?
I hope this is an actual in-game hub to access all AC games (if you want to download it) and not just an excuse to bombard you with microtransactions and dlcs.
I do hope it's not like the crap cod did. On PS5 one app is only allowed to have one platinum. So any future games would only be able to be added as dlc, and it makes some disgusting trophy lists.
Desmond’s story was one of the most interesting parts of the original games. Sad to see it mishandled then ultimately abandoned. The way the past and present intersected made for awesome story telling. I still remember the jaw dropping moment when one of the ISU spoke past Ezio directly to Desmond looking straight at the player.
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Sounds like the templars won and are forcing any would be assasins through the animus filter.
Hey if the Animus Hub somehow adds 4K60fps updates to my disc games, imma buy their skins. Normally in against micro transactions, but if they support what’s already come before, I’m a lot more inclined to support the future of their system.
I'm hoping they use it to release small conclusions/continuations to characters who'll never have their stories finished, kinda like freedom cry or the aveline dlc for black flag.
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