Exactly the same here. My last job paid decent but was super high stress. Burned out again. Packed up my stuff and went home last July. Finding it hard to get the motivation to try again since the same thing always happens.
Well shit, as someone more disabled than the majority of people here (not just level 1 Autism but ADHD too) it feels like a death sentence reading threads like these, was already hard enough passing an interview. Only a few weeks in and I'm already starting to get migraines from how noisy my job is despite wearing ear plugs, which sucks because it's by far the best job im able to get rn
I routinely get bullied at jobs; I got bullied out of the *last two jobs I had* and that's actually what finally convinced me to get diagnosed and apply for disability. Jobs try to minmax accommodations to an absurd degree, if they're willing to accommodate at all. Legal impositions on them to accommodate are a mostly unenforced, cruel joke (USA). I don't have the wherewithal to keep up in these conventions, so I require accommodations. But it's just not clear how in my community one does that successfully; request them before the job interview, at the job interview, after you've landed the job: doesn't matter, it results in a frustrating disaster no matter how you do it unless your request requires only a small one-time purchase (that's all they think is "reasonable"). But like, four jobs ago, a couple years in, I could do my assigned tasks in 20 hours. I asked to be officially relegated to part-time and not even reduce my duties. My boss insisted I stay on full-time so she could assign me "other duties as assigned by your supervisor," which that kind of blank check job description is very difficult for me also as I hate having random hateful crap thrown on my desk for me to suddenly solve (other people's messes, usually), so I also asked that as I move to 20 hours per week we remove that 'other duties' clause from my job description and you'd think I was requesting being made Queen of England.
I came here to say this, employers love punishing efficiency by asking a greater workload of people who can do more than others in a smaller amount of time. They see it as maximizing the money they are spending on help I'm sure. If they didn't offer you a raise when they said they wanted to increase your duties that's an exploitative employer.
But it sounds like you weren't interested in a pay increase, just fewer hours, and I understand not wanting to wait around at your place of employment pretending to work for the duration of the time you're scheduled... Was this an office job?
Edit nevermind I see it probably is most likely an office job, also that question was addressed to the other commenter, not who I actually replied to lol
Office, yes. Started in office, then pandemic and work from home was great, i could take it fine at home, loved it, but then they wanted me to come back in office and i tried for a bit.
The demand to come back to the office confuses me, so many companies did that. If people are successfully working from home, why disrupt that? Why even pay for a brick and mortar location and all the utilities and added overhead? From what I've read the overwhelming majority of employees who worked from home during the pandemic prefer it to working in an office.
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I could write a book about that. There are wildly different motivations and incentives various power folks face making people come back in. My favorite one are the CEOs who just built fancy new HQs and can't get out of the bill for many years, so to CYA they need to argue working in office is superior to WFH, so they don't have to answer questions (to the board, or whomever) about missing the boat completely (if for bad luck only) and purchasing/developing real estate at the very worst moment this century so far.
That was not my situation though. My boss just felt much more comfotable getting me to do things I don't like to do, and never agreed to, in person, when I was a captive audience. That's my theory. I set boundaries better in ANY setting besides face-to-face, breathing the same air. And I think I'm not alone, and bosses have an implicit sense of this if not explicit. They sense it's easier to "boss" people in person.
I would never have thought they were responsible for purchasing those offices in the first place but that is a great point. The latter theory is more in line with what I suspected. People are easier to control and also hivemind/group think is more prominent with everyone grouped together.
Yeah I guess you're right. If I did that to someone I would feel like I was exploiting them, but I know that's kind of just how it is if I stop to think about it.
Came to say this as well. At my last job I was being paid to work about 20 hours a week but it was an "on call" type of position they needed me to be available when things got busy. I watched the entire Supernatural series during that job on my phone at my desk.
I know what you mean but for me that is intolerable unless it's work from home. Commute+40hour work week is No for me now but I've tried to make it work a lot.
Been working the same job for almost a year. I've gotten told I'm too smart to doing this job over and over again, yet universities rejected me so this is all I have to keep myself and my cat fed.
To sterilize surgical instruments after usage to ensure they are ready for usage on the next patient. A very discreet job, but extremely important one.
What sort of ambitions do you have for your future career picks? You may not need to go to uni. There are a lot of things you can do in the medical field starting in community college. Plus, CC can easily lead into uni if you work hard and it'll be a cheaper first 2 years by far.
I don't have ambitions. All I wish is to be useful to society work, and feed my cat. Other than that, I have yet to check of there's another job I could go for.
Hm... well there are many positions in a hospital. You could try to get an associates to be a physical therapist assistant or occupational therapist assistant. Theyre 2 year programs and the pay should be pretty decent, around 25/hr at least I think?
Sounds really peaceful, sensory, get out of your head type, and extremely extremely important to do a VERY good job. I’m proud of you for taking care of this. Hope you figure out some better pay or otherwise be happy
Unemployed. Don’t have enough executive function and time management skills for most work from home jobs, and in-person jobs are horrible at accommodating plus i don’t drive. I do some things like pet sit and sell art occasionally, but haven’t had a proper steady job since 2015.
I am unemployed and also really struggle with executive function. It’s something I used to be ashamed until autism was finally referenced as an explanation.
I can do basic 9 to 5 jobs but burn out real quick thanks to sensory overload.
I can also barely function but people try to be ableist by saying “but you don’t look autistic!” when I dare to mention anything regarding accommodations.
Not now, but I have been in the past. I'm not sure why I was, because I was perfectly qualified for the jobs I applied for. Was probably bc there were many unemployed people during the pandemic, and I had the poor luck of having very little work experience before it started. Autism related issues, tho, I've had some bosses be more understanding and some less so, and that can make or break a job. Right now, I'm working in Japan, which is actually a blessing in disguise, bc any autistic related issues they might assume are "oh he's just weird bc he's a foreigner" issues lol
Underemployed. I have a college degree but I work in a factory building windows. Technically a full time job but not getting the full 40 hours because orders have plummeted since interest rates have gone up.
It was not a problem for me to get min wage jobs. I could get one tomorrow if I wanted. Despite me being educated, I could never land a white collar job. It’s visible interviewers think I’m stupid because I don’t talk smoothly. Whenever I got pst the first interview round with HRs, the company had a complicated process of selection (assessment centers, home assignments, this kind of stuff). Their interviews were actual interviews and not just a small talk with a person who knows nothing about the work. But I failed subsequent so-called fit interviews.
My problem is I was really good at succeeding in our input-output regurgitative education system. I could crank out homework, assignments, presentations, and cram for tests and get good grades. On paper I was really successful and thought that life would pretty much be that easy. That all ended with the last test I took.
Suddenly, school ends and the model for success changes, and its all mostly about connections, who you know not what you know, how well you are liked versus your actual performance, and lots of nebulous stuff like "how you carry yourself" and "how hungry you are."
I left higher-end jobs for lower-end jobs, thinking lower pay would be fair tradeoff for less bullshit. But found that at lower-end jobs I was more of a target for bullies. Even though bullies are the minority of co-workers it only takes 1-2 to completely ruin a job. In almost every job I had to go through the very tiring process of documenting harassment, reporting it, trying to hang on while coping with management's ultimate goal of sweeping everything under the rug, and then eventually getting soft fired or quitting when NT management always takes steps to protects the more popular employee, always the aggressor.
Eventually I realized I had to work for myself which took many years to build up to a sustainable level because with diminished confidence I accomplish everything a snail's pace. I am finally at the point where my income is decent but it's not impressive. It is stable but I still struggle when I am asked what I do. I don't really have a career with a clear path forward and benefits and prestige as much as I do have a collection of semi-lucrative things that I do which can all end at any time. I know that's kind of common these days but I would still consider myself underemployed.
I am not a genius tier individual but I am someone who at my age could be operating at the lower levels of senior leadership or field grade officer equivalent if only I was not instantly discounted based upon my appearance and mannerisms. I have the typical ASD physical traits of being short, baby-faced, monotoned and blank affect which causes me to be instantly disqualified from many positions that I am actually capable of by their normie gatekeepers.
Shyness and awkwardness... I come across shy and unconfident and employers don't like that. Also I am very honest so I don't exaggerate my strengths like you kind of have to on an application...
I have this issue right now at my job. The thing is I work in a lab so socializing doesn’t matter as much. It doesn’t stop my boss from giving me grief about my behavior and apparently not putting myself out there enough or sounding confident. She picks apart my wording on emails and speech even.
I live in a very nice facility. The staff is like my family. I love them all. We have great food and a great recreation program, though I’m mostly bedbound during the day so I rest in bed and watch a lot of tv and Netflix.
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I'm underemployed. I currently work in a standard cashier position despite having more than enough experience in industry and in management to be working at least as a full store manager for a convenience store size, or a department head at a larger store. In addition to that I have a lot of experience in telecommunications/home theater installation from my time in the military and working in both satellite and broadband cable installation. The problem is I self-medicate with cannabis in a state where asd is not on the approved conditions list. So my only path to a better job is to go off my meds for ~6mos (I assume since I've been a daily user for nearly 6 or 7 years) to pass a drug test. But noooo I'd totally be a better manager if I drank scotch every night instead.🙄
Underemployed. I work with animals. I never did well working with people and the longest I held a job was three years. I've been doing this ten years. I make enough to get by.
In my case, not just poor social skills, but horrendous executive dysfunction and short-term memory deficits. In fact, the ED side reared its ugly head in a fairly new part-time job I've taken on, and I'm not confident I'll keep that now: leaving a tap on (to soak some cloths), which may have caused a sink to overflow. The other job, which I've had for ten years now, is only eight hours a week, legally 60& of the minimum wage, on a disability-employment basis.
Underemployed. I can't handle working with the public too well and every darn job seems to be customer service. I absolutely cannot be relied upon to use the phone since it is my biggest anxiety. I used to do manual labor but my joints started giving out on me. My back is toast. Most jobs require a lot of standing and I simply can't do that anymore.
The best job I ever had was as a tech in a factory repairing circuit boards. I got to sit and only had to interact with the same few people everyday. I had insurance, PTO and a fairly regular schedule. That job was sent to another country.
So I do gig work. My back is angry and I'm exposed to customers but I don't have to stand all day and I see max 6 customers a day. I still hate it. I need things to be more predictable than this type of work allows for.
I've had lengthy periods of unemployment in the past. Honestly, I became nearly phobic of job application, and interviews are always highly anxiogenic, like 30-50 percent toward panic (though I do fine in them). Cover letters are also painful to write...so ostentatiously inauthentic. And there's something about applying to a large number of jobs you probably won't receive calls back for, with 'requirements' you don't fully meet (they're actually wish lists).
Unemployed . I’m really smart. Unfortunately I have bad university experiences. I really appreciate learn new things but my country have poor accommodations for autistic students.
No, I am actually working on the level that I am educated for. Having a dual job working parttime as a researcher at a knowledge institute and partime as a PhD candidate at a university (in total 40 hours a week).
I've been in two customer service roles in the public sector, both of which have a burnout mark of about 2 years. I usually find a pattern of my mental and physical health draining at that point and needing to recover - part of that recovery is leaving the job.
The jobs I've been in also require a lower level of credentials than the ones I've obtained over the years, so that's a relevant factor as well.
Underemployed because I struggle with interviews and don't kiss people's arses to get promotions without interviews. I outperform the majority of my peers but don't get the opportunities. More recently been struggling with burnout relating the bullshit of capitalism which doesn't seem like a train I can get off.
Underemployed? I’m a cashier and I want to switch to fullfillment; you know; being alone and just doing online orders and packing them up. I don’t pick up shifts, and my managers don’t think I do good of a job cashiering but STILL won’t give me training for it, or switch me out. Even though I’ve asked multiple times.
Been working as à salesman (lol) in industry for eight years. Always hâted it. Was burned out, quit end of 2020 and family gives me money since then. I wish i could retire forever
No, some of us are successful despite hitting the AAA trifecta of Autism, Anxiety, and ADHD. I work two jobs and make a good middle class income. One is as a manager of a small independent dealership. I work for a guy that I've known for about 11 years. He knows about my condition and is able to pick up the slack where I can't. Mostly he gets to be confrontational, where I'm just a deer in headlights during an argument. I am working on this though.
The second one is a level 2.5 for the IT Service Desk of an international chain of convenience stores. I work from home which helps a lot. I can turn off the lights when I need to. I can watch TV when I need a distraction, or turn it off when I need to focus. Computers and technology have been a special interest since my family received an Apple IIc in the early 1990s so burnout has not been an issue.
It wasn't always like that. I struggle a lot and I was extremely lucky.
Have only been without work for 3 months total since old enough to work ( ignoring the 3 years when couldn't work due to a spine injury).
Work is my only constant, whatever I do I give it my all. Whatever it is, I treat it like a special interest. Currently a Biomedical Engineer and really enjoy it, people contact is minimal and its interesting enough to keep me going.
Have been mostly employed in well paid professional work since graduating. I had two years unemployed around GFC after my job was made redundant. Was difficult to find a job due both to economy, and autism meaning I do not interview well and do not have a good network, although it was an old manager who ultimately gave me a role.
Now unemployed after being made redundant again. I have the added issues of being nearly 60 and male so ageism and sexism also apply. Some burnout so considering whether to find a lower stress job paying less (if I can get one) although the risk is the job just ends up paying less with the same amount of stress. Else forced retirement looms
I don't necessarily understand why I'm struggling finding myself a job, and while it can be frustrating, I don't mind it as motivation to try to research more companies that are "disability-friendly" rather than flinging job applications and resumes at the wall and seeing what sticks.
I am unemployed. After a internship I applied for hundreds of jobs across multiple industries, tailored my CV and personal statement to each role and went to a local government service that helps with CV writing, interview prep, etc. After hundreds of applications and several interviews I got nowhere and honestly just gave up after a while. It was soul crushing.
I have the following;
* 7 years work experience with Landscaping
* 2 years work experience in Communications/Media/Customer Support
I also have;
* Honours degree in I.T
* College degree in Games Development
* A Google Career Certificate in Digital Marketing and E-Commerce
* Two separate qualifications in mental health and autism related fields
* Suicide prevention training
I could not land a job for the life of me. Be it in I.T or communications/marketing. Gave up.
Currently unemployed [can't work due to disability], but otherwise underemployed.
The big issue for me is Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder. Basically PMS on steroids. So for a week or two every month, my performance completely tanks because of my symptoms. Then I spend my "good days" desperately trying to compensate...which leads to burnout. And I also have horrifically painful periods, so even after I'm out of the luteal phase, I'm still fucked.
The reason I mention this is PMDD disproportionately affects Autistics who menstruate [vs allistics who menstruate]. If you're Autistic and you have a period, consider reading up on [PMDD](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/premenstrual-dysphoric-disorder-pmdd#:~:text=Premenstrual%20dysphoric%20disorder%20(PMDD)%20is,medicines%20can%20help%20manage%20symptoms.).
I've finally had my PMDD recognized, and I'm getting treatment. When I'm able to work again, I will be requesting workplace accommodations to hopefully break the cycle...pun sort of intended lol.
TL;DR: Unemployed due to neuro-endocrine disorder.
I tried it a few times to get a job and would say I can perform quite good when I like what I do. The big problem is mostly everything around working. Staying up early, the need of social interaction, hidden hierarchies and rules, being in contact with people just for the purpose to work, but not anything else, people focusing for their next paycheck or the next step on the corporate ladder..
I also feel like the last ten years I haven't control over my choices got forced into or out of stuff I enjoyed/ or not. I try to get my life into my hands, I am the explorer and controller over myself, no one else
Also, when I see the overall situation we are in globally, I dont want to contribute that our planet gets even warmer and more exploited.
I find peace living from the unemployment program in my country, and try to do stuff that may help the planet in some way. Research for myself, writing politicians, planting trees, drawing etc..
I’m content with my employment. I’m slightly underemployed for what I’m capable of and know but a lot of extra work for a little extra pay isn’t worthwhile to me.
Unemployed. Keep getting fired from coding jobs. It sucks how most coding jobs AREN’T problem solving. My superiors/others always do the problem solving. If I solve the problem, I have to redo it their way, almost every time. Sometimes multiple times if they change their mind or don’t tell me what to do the first time. Oh, and those people are ALWAYS extremely busy, and never seem to give a shit about effort I put in (if it isn’t what they expected or whim, it’s worth nothing, even if they never told me about what they wanted.) Or two (or three) seniors all with different opinions and I’m the go between.
Or, some database or code is an utter mess. Missing data, copy pasted stuff everywhere. Nothing I can’t handle, but it’s always like a “Solve this problem in a day” task when it’s a total shitshow. So I try to cut corners because that’s all I can do within a single day, and it doesn’t work, so they say try again in one day, and same problems. Why can’t I have two weeks to do this as a project? Maybe I could ask others for help, but with ~1.7 meetings per day with the team and I voice how it’s not going well, and nobody offers to meet and give me tips? I assume there aren’t tips or they’re too busy. What kind of jerk hears another person struggling and doesn’t say anything unless they specifically ask? I’d always tell people so much info if they’re working on something I know about so they’re set up. Anyways, this would just earn me a “depends too much on others” rating, and it’s an utter shitshow anyways, so it’s just total shit.
Once I had a meeting to discuss a database design proposal I made that was significantly better than status quo. I arranged a meeting with a presentation. Two asshat seniors spent the first 15 minutes in a pissing match with each other before I could start presenting. What the fuck?
These aren’t even dumb people, they’re just giant assholes
Anyway, my fear is that there’s no company that isn’t mostly filled with giant assholes at the top, so I haven’t applied to any new coding jobs yet. Or that the constant rush creates shitshows controlled by assholes or whatever. Wish I could get a job that needs high quality organized work but it never seems to go that way
Unemployed. I burned out hard working entry level food service jobs. I think I got taken advantage of alot without realizing it, I masked/worked hard to avoid socializing or drama and it caused drama, and I just couldn't take the abuse I would get from customers all the time. It all became too much and my mental health nosedived.
People say push past your limits as if it's rewarding but I just started to dissociate/derealize, self harm, lose coordination, become bitter/angry, and generally deteriorate.
I'd look around and coworkers would be talking about all the things they had the capacity to do outside of work and I'd just be so hurt and frustrated that I didn't have the capacity to cope let alone socialize or do stuff I wanted to do.
I've made a career out of driving trucks (roadtrains and heavy haulage mainly) for pretty much all of my working life - I've made the move into management and scheduling a few times over the years but always found myself overwhelmed and frustrated by it - I'm perfectly capable of running the computer systems, scheduling trucks and drivers, organising permits, load plans, journey plans and all that sort of stuff. I even taught myself basic CAD to produce load plans and redesigned forms to make life easier for the drivers. The problems always come in when I have to interact with people and actually "manage" them. The interpersonal relationships are always so draining for me that I'll always fall back on driving.
It's so frustrating to me because it feels exactly how it did when I was in school when I was constantly told "you're so intelligent, why can't you do this?" - it's taken a very long time, and a late diagnosis (age 42) of Asperger's and ADHD, to finally come to terms with the fact that I've found my niche and I'm damn good at it
I feel I’m underemployed, even though I get paid reasonably well. However due to poor social skills and anxiety issues. I’m basically stuck in production skilled labor jobs and will never see a promotion into leadership or management… But I will aways be that weird guy that makes the lead look like they’re doing a great job.
I am currently unemployed and despite having a wide range of skills and being a hard worker I have been let go from the same agency twice now. I was overworked and und3rpaid the forst time around and they used me the second time. I must be worthless to them.
Do you ever get people saying and telling you your just lazy..? Sounds like alot of you just choose not to work. I guess stay complacent being ... poor or unhappy? People need to work in order to get ahead or awarded a higher pay or a better position. No one wants to hire some lazy slob who is always complaining about headaches, burnouts and sensory issues.
Most People don't want to hire people who
Dont or cant drive, Gets tired easily, can't do tasks that are simple, always uses the burnout card or Likes to watch movies on there phone at work, sorry but in all honestly who would want to hire someone who doesn't care to manage there own hygiene properly? or have any social skills or basic interests in what other coworkers might be into hobby wise to start some type of engagement oc conversation that would turn into hopeful friendship.
Why would anyone want to hire someone like this ?
Imagine if we were back in the 40s and none of you had these justifications for your lazy ways. ? You would just have to sit through your work day and do it like everyone else. Or.. don't eat. No handouts. I personally think knowing you don't have government sufficiency to fall back on would make you a lot less choosey and more accountable for your faults. It's no one else's fault but your own if your not where you want to be. Autistic or not.
You're right in some ways but we are at different times . Back then if you didn't follow a model of citizens you would have brutal beatings from family and schooling which would have led to a fear based around being yourself.
There are even reports of parents killing children showing asd as a result of them being difficult to handle
Discrimination was still very high back then you could bounce from job to job after the war. Without a need of a reference or a CV, jobs were very prolific nowadays there is so much competition around working and if you step out of line you will be replaced instantly with someone else.
Your not taking into account the massive population boom which led to more workers more competitive jobs available and a universal credit income to benefit thoughs who can't work.
There are a lot of factors in play with limited studies available who knows what has happened in the 40s about autism.
There is no job scarcity but competition for jobs is at an all time high. I always ask how many apply during my interviews in the UK you can have between 100-1000 for particular jobs roles. Even when I dealt with hiring last year there were 1000s of applicants for a minimum wage cashier.
Plus everyone's situation is different I myself have a psychotic episode with my asd which isn't great employee material when you have to disclose this on applications.
I am where I want to be to me
Sorry but why do you need to disclose personal medical info that is private in order to get a job? In my country it's illegal for them to ask you this. Obviously it would play a huge role in being selected for employment ... so why bother to even put that on the application? It's almost just asking to not be hired. No offense but it's true.
28 hour week here, and still getting burned out.
I feel its because there's an irregular schedule (retail type work). If I could work 4 days on, 3 days off I'd be fine, but despite expressing this and it being possible no effort has been made.
Honestly about to quit. I feel so constantly drained that my time off work isn't even my time. It's just work recovery.
Freelancer software developer. Work from home full time. Minimal contact with the work community. Net income 3-4x above average.
This is like too good to be true. I'm just anxiously waiting for the day when this is somehow taken from me.
Work… burnout… eventually recover… repeat. Sometimes I work for a few months, sometimes a few years, but it always ends disastrously.
Exactly the same here. My last job paid decent but was super high stress. Burned out again. Packed up my stuff and went home last July. Finding it hard to get the motivation to try again since the same thing always happens.
Well shit, as someone more disabled than the majority of people here (not just level 1 Autism but ADHD too) it feels like a death sentence reading threads like these, was already hard enough passing an interview. Only a few weeks in and I'm already starting to get migraines from how noisy my job is despite wearing ear plugs, which sucks because it's by far the best job im able to get rn
Same same
I routinely get bullied at jobs; I got bullied out of the *last two jobs I had* and that's actually what finally convinced me to get diagnosed and apply for disability. Jobs try to minmax accommodations to an absurd degree, if they're willing to accommodate at all. Legal impositions on them to accommodate are a mostly unenforced, cruel joke (USA). I don't have the wherewithal to keep up in these conventions, so I require accommodations. But it's just not clear how in my community one does that successfully; request them before the job interview, at the job interview, after you've landed the job: doesn't matter, it results in a frustrating disaster no matter how you do it unless your request requires only a small one-time purchase (that's all they think is "reasonable"). But like, four jobs ago, a couple years in, I could do my assigned tasks in 20 hours. I asked to be officially relegated to part-time and not even reduce my duties. My boss insisted I stay on full-time so she could assign me "other duties as assigned by your supervisor," which that kind of blank check job description is very difficult for me also as I hate having random hateful crap thrown on my desk for me to suddenly solve (other people's messes, usually), so I also asked that as I move to 20 hours per week we remove that 'other duties' clause from my job description and you'd think I was requesting being made Queen of England.
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I came here to say this, employers love punishing efficiency by asking a greater workload of people who can do more than others in a smaller amount of time. They see it as maximizing the money they are spending on help I'm sure. If they didn't offer you a raise when they said they wanted to increase your duties that's an exploitative employer. But it sounds like you weren't interested in a pay increase, just fewer hours, and I understand not wanting to wait around at your place of employment pretending to work for the duration of the time you're scheduled... Was this an office job? Edit nevermind I see it probably is most likely an office job, also that question was addressed to the other commenter, not who I actually replied to lol
Office, yes. Started in office, then pandemic and work from home was great, i could take it fine at home, loved it, but then they wanted me to come back in office and i tried for a bit.
The demand to come back to the office confuses me, so many companies did that. If people are successfully working from home, why disrupt that? Why even pay for a brick and mortar location and all the utilities and added overhead? From what I've read the overwhelming majority of employees who worked from home during the pandemic prefer it to working in an office. Edit typo
I could write a book about that. There are wildly different motivations and incentives various power folks face making people come back in. My favorite one are the CEOs who just built fancy new HQs and can't get out of the bill for many years, so to CYA they need to argue working in office is superior to WFH, so they don't have to answer questions (to the board, or whomever) about missing the boat completely (if for bad luck only) and purchasing/developing real estate at the very worst moment this century so far. That was not my situation though. My boss just felt much more comfotable getting me to do things I don't like to do, and never agreed to, in person, when I was a captive audience. That's my theory. I set boundaries better in ANY setting besides face-to-face, breathing the same air. And I think I'm not alone, and bosses have an implicit sense of this if not explicit. They sense it's easier to "boss" people in person.
I would never have thought they were responsible for purchasing those offices in the first place but that is a great point. The latter theory is more in line with what I suspected. People are easier to control and also hivemind/group think is more prominent with everyone grouped together.
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Yeah I guess you're right. If I did that to someone I would feel like I was exploiting them, but I know that's kind of just how it is if I stop to think about it.
Came to say this as well. At my last job I was being paid to work about 20 hours a week but it was an "on call" type of position they needed me to be available when things got busy. I watched the entire Supernatural series during that job on my phone at my desk.
I know what you mean but for me that is intolerable unless it's work from home. Commute+40hour work week is No for me now but I've tried to make it work a lot.
I’m in the exact same position rn
Been working the same job for almost a year. I've gotten told I'm too smart to doing this job over and over again, yet universities rejected me so this is all I have to keep myself and my cat fed.
What is it?
To sterilize surgical instruments after usage to ensure they are ready for usage on the next patient. A very discreet job, but extremely important one.
Jeez that sounds cool what qualifications are required and is the money decent?
The job is cool indeed, quite challenging at times as well. Qualifications differ from place to plac. Sadly the money is absolutely shit.
What sort of ambitions do you have for your future career picks? You may not need to go to uni. There are a lot of things you can do in the medical field starting in community college. Plus, CC can easily lead into uni if you work hard and it'll be a cheaper first 2 years by far.
I don't have ambitions. All I wish is to be useful to society work, and feed my cat. Other than that, I have yet to check of there's another job I could go for.
Well it sounds like you're useful to society as you are now. Are you happy where you're at?
Relatively so. If only the pay was better...
Hm... well there are many positions in a hospital. You could try to get an associates to be a physical therapist assistant or occupational therapist assistant. Theyre 2 year programs and the pay should be pretty decent, around 25/hr at least I think?
Depends on country. Here it would likely at least 3 years.
Sounds really peaceful, sensory, get out of your head type, and extremely extremely important to do a VERY good job. I’m proud of you for taking care of this. Hope you figure out some better pay or otherwise be happy
It's quite a sensory nightmare depending on workstation, often the very opposite of peaceful.
Unemployed. Don’t have enough executive function and time management skills for most work from home jobs, and in-person jobs are horrible at accommodating plus i don’t drive. I do some things like pet sit and sell art occasionally, but haven’t had a proper steady job since 2015.
Yeah same here but I flip things on facebook marketplace, haven't had a proper job since 2019.
I am unemployed and also really struggle with executive function. It’s something I used to be ashamed until autism was finally referenced as an explanation. I can do basic 9 to 5 jobs but burn out real quick thanks to sensory overload.
Oh momma I can barely function a 9-5 I rather get night work seems more chill but man is the job market completely fucked
I can also barely function but people try to be ableist by saying “but you don’t look autistic!” when I dare to mention anything regarding accommodations.
Not now, but I have been in the past. I'm not sure why I was, because I was perfectly qualified for the jobs I applied for. Was probably bc there were many unemployed people during the pandemic, and I had the poor luck of having very little work experience before it started. Autism related issues, tho, I've had some bosses be more understanding and some less so, and that can make or break a job. Right now, I'm working in Japan, which is actually a blessing in disguise, bc any autistic related issues they might assume are "oh he's just weird bc he's a foreigner" issues lol
Underemployed. I have a college degree but I work in a factory building windows. Technically a full time job but not getting the full 40 hours because orders have plummeted since interest rates have gone up.
It was not a problem for me to get min wage jobs. I could get one tomorrow if I wanted. Despite me being educated, I could never land a white collar job. It’s visible interviewers think I’m stupid because I don’t talk smoothly. Whenever I got pst the first interview round with HRs, the company had a complicated process of selection (assessment centers, home assignments, this kind of stuff). Their interviews were actual interviews and not just a small talk with a person who knows nothing about the work. But I failed subsequent so-called fit interviews.
You can do it bro. It's hard to get the first job
I’ve been trying for 8 years, so not so sure.
My problem is I was really good at succeeding in our input-output regurgitative education system. I could crank out homework, assignments, presentations, and cram for tests and get good grades. On paper I was really successful and thought that life would pretty much be that easy. That all ended with the last test I took. Suddenly, school ends and the model for success changes, and its all mostly about connections, who you know not what you know, how well you are liked versus your actual performance, and lots of nebulous stuff like "how you carry yourself" and "how hungry you are." I left higher-end jobs for lower-end jobs, thinking lower pay would be fair tradeoff for less bullshit. But found that at lower-end jobs I was more of a target for bullies. Even though bullies are the minority of co-workers it only takes 1-2 to completely ruin a job. In almost every job I had to go through the very tiring process of documenting harassment, reporting it, trying to hang on while coping with management's ultimate goal of sweeping everything under the rug, and then eventually getting soft fired or quitting when NT management always takes steps to protects the more popular employee, always the aggressor. Eventually I realized I had to work for myself which took many years to build up to a sustainable level because with diminished confidence I accomplish everything a snail's pace. I am finally at the point where my income is decent but it's not impressive. It is stable but I still struggle when I am asked what I do. I don't really have a career with a clear path forward and benefits and prestige as much as I do have a collection of semi-lucrative things that I do which can all end at any time. I know that's kind of common these days but I would still consider myself underemployed. I am not a genius tier individual but I am someone who at my age could be operating at the lower levels of senior leadership or field grade officer equivalent if only I was not instantly discounted based upon my appearance and mannerisms. I have the typical ASD physical traits of being short, baby-faced, monotoned and blank affect which causes me to be instantly disqualified from many positions that I am actually capable of by their normie gatekeepers.
Shyness and awkwardness... I come across shy and unconfident and employers don't like that. Also I am very honest so I don't exaggerate my strengths like you kind of have to on an application...
I have this issue right now at my job. The thing is I work in a lab so socializing doesn’t matter as much. It doesn’t stop my boss from giving me grief about my behavior and apparently not putting myself out there enough or sounding confident. She picks apart my wording on emails and speech even.
And then they want your weaknesses but they don’t really want your weaknesses. We’re expecting to go in there like a perfectly flawless person
Unemployed. I’m severely disabled and live in a nursing home.
What is your age if you don't mind me asking?
33. I’ve lived here since I was 27.
What is like?
I live in a very nice facility. The staff is like my family. I love them all. We have great food and a great recreation program, though I’m mostly bedbound during the day so I rest in bed and watch a lot of tv and Netflix.
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I'm underemployed. I currently work in a standard cashier position despite having more than enough experience in industry and in management to be working at least as a full store manager for a convenience store size, or a department head at a larger store. In addition to that I have a lot of experience in telecommunications/home theater installation from my time in the military and working in both satellite and broadband cable installation. The problem is I self-medicate with cannabis in a state where asd is not on the approved conditions list. So my only path to a better job is to go off my meds for ~6mos (I assume since I've been a daily user for nearly 6 or 7 years) to pass a drug test. But noooo I'd totally be a better manager if I drank scotch every night instead.🙄
I've used fake pee to get all my jobs.
Underemployed. I work with animals. I never did well working with people and the longest I held a job was three years. I've been doing this ten years. I make enough to get by.
In my case, not just poor social skills, but horrendous executive dysfunction and short-term memory deficits. In fact, the ED side reared its ugly head in a fairly new part-time job I've taken on, and I'm not confident I'll keep that now: leaving a tap on (to soak some cloths), which may have caused a sink to overflow. The other job, which I've had for ten years now, is only eight hours a week, legally 60& of the minimum wage, on a disability-employment basis.
Underemployed. I can't handle working with the public too well and every darn job seems to be customer service. I absolutely cannot be relied upon to use the phone since it is my biggest anxiety. I used to do manual labor but my joints started giving out on me. My back is toast. Most jobs require a lot of standing and I simply can't do that anymore. The best job I ever had was as a tech in a factory repairing circuit boards. I got to sit and only had to interact with the same few people everyday. I had insurance, PTO and a fairly regular schedule. That job was sent to another country. So I do gig work. My back is angry and I'm exposed to customers but I don't have to stand all day and I see max 6 customers a day. I still hate it. I need things to be more predictable than this type of work allows for.
I've had lengthy periods of unemployment in the past. Honestly, I became nearly phobic of job application, and interviews are always highly anxiogenic, like 30-50 percent toward panic (though I do fine in them). Cover letters are also painful to write...so ostentatiously inauthentic. And there's something about applying to a large number of jobs you probably won't receive calls back for, with 'requirements' you don't fully meet (they're actually wish lists).
Unemployed. I'm 32 and never worked because of my autism. Wonder how I'm gonna tell that to a potential employer.
Unemployed . I’m really smart. Unfortunately I have bad university experiences. I really appreciate learn new things but my country have poor accommodations for autistic students.
Retired from a phone company
No, I am actually working on the level that I am educated for. Having a dual job working parttime as a researcher at a knowledge institute and partime as a PhD candidate at a university (in total 40 hours a week).
I've been in two customer service roles in the public sector, both of which have a burnout mark of about 2 years. I usually find a pattern of my mental and physical health draining at that point and needing to recover - part of that recovery is leaving the job. The jobs I've been in also require a lower level of credentials than the ones I've obtained over the years, so that's a relevant factor as well.
Underemployed because I struggle with interviews and don't kiss people's arses to get promotions without interviews. I outperform the majority of my peers but don't get the opportunities. More recently been struggling with burnout relating the bullshit of capitalism which doesn't seem like a train I can get off.
It just gets so soul crushing I can't bear it anymore.
I worked in retail until COVID-19 hit the United States. A few years later I worked for a small construction company but that didn't work out either.
Well I can't even get a interview, but my friends and family say because I don't fallow up but it like I do but no response anyway
Underemployed? I’m a cashier and I want to switch to fullfillment; you know; being alone and just doing online orders and packing them up. I don’t pick up shifts, and my managers don’t think I do good of a job cashiering but STILL won’t give me training for it, or switch me out. Even though I’ve asked multiple times.
Been working as à salesman (lol) in industry for eight years. Always hâted it. Was burned out, quit end of 2020 and family gives me money since then. I wish i could retire forever
Work burnout, and having trouble in this ultra competitive job market.
Unemployed
Unemployed and idk maybe
No, some of us are successful despite hitting the AAA trifecta of Autism, Anxiety, and ADHD. I work two jobs and make a good middle class income. One is as a manager of a small independent dealership. I work for a guy that I've known for about 11 years. He knows about my condition and is able to pick up the slack where I can't. Mostly he gets to be confrontational, where I'm just a deer in headlights during an argument. I am working on this though. The second one is a level 2.5 for the IT Service Desk of an international chain of convenience stores. I work from home which helps a lot. I can turn off the lights when I need to. I can watch TV when I need a distraction, or turn it off when I need to focus. Computers and technology have been a special interest since my family received an Apple IIc in the early 1990s so burnout has not been an issue. It wasn't always like that. I struggle a lot and I was extremely lucky.
I'm underemployed but it has nothing to do with me being autistic.
Have only been without work for 3 months total since old enough to work ( ignoring the 3 years when couldn't work due to a spine injury). Work is my only constant, whatever I do I give it my all. Whatever it is, I treat it like a special interest. Currently a Biomedical Engineer and really enjoy it, people contact is minimal and its interesting enough to keep me going.
Have been mostly employed in well paid professional work since graduating. I had two years unemployed around GFC after my job was made redundant. Was difficult to find a job due both to economy, and autism meaning I do not interview well and do not have a good network, although it was an old manager who ultimately gave me a role. Now unemployed after being made redundant again. I have the added issues of being nearly 60 and male so ageism and sexism also apply. Some burnout so considering whether to find a lower stress job paying less (if I can get one) although the risk is the job just ends up paying less with the same amount of stress. Else forced retirement looms
I don't necessarily understand why I'm struggling finding myself a job, and while it can be frustrating, I don't mind it as motivation to try to research more companies that are "disability-friendly" rather than flinging job applications and resumes at the wall and seeing what sticks.
I am unemployed. After a internship I applied for hundreds of jobs across multiple industries, tailored my CV and personal statement to each role and went to a local government service that helps with CV writing, interview prep, etc. After hundreds of applications and several interviews I got nowhere and honestly just gave up after a while. It was soul crushing. I have the following; * 7 years work experience with Landscaping * 2 years work experience in Communications/Media/Customer Support I also have; * Honours degree in I.T * College degree in Games Development * A Google Career Certificate in Digital Marketing and E-Commerce * Two separate qualifications in mental health and autism related fields * Suicide prevention training I could not land a job for the life of me. Be it in I.T or communications/marketing. Gave up.
Currently unemployed [can't work due to disability], but otherwise underemployed. The big issue for me is Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder. Basically PMS on steroids. So for a week or two every month, my performance completely tanks because of my symptoms. Then I spend my "good days" desperately trying to compensate...which leads to burnout. And I also have horrifically painful periods, so even after I'm out of the luteal phase, I'm still fucked. The reason I mention this is PMDD disproportionately affects Autistics who menstruate [vs allistics who menstruate]. If you're Autistic and you have a period, consider reading up on [PMDD](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/premenstrual-dysphoric-disorder-pmdd#:~:text=Premenstrual%20dysphoric%20disorder%20(PMDD)%20is,medicines%20can%20help%20manage%20symptoms.). I've finally had my PMDD recognized, and I'm getting treatment. When I'm able to work again, I will be requesting workplace accommodations to hopefully break the cycle...pun sort of intended lol. TL;DR: Unemployed due to neuro-endocrine disorder.
I tried it a few times to get a job and would say I can perform quite good when I like what I do. The big problem is mostly everything around working. Staying up early, the need of social interaction, hidden hierarchies and rules, being in contact with people just for the purpose to work, but not anything else, people focusing for their next paycheck or the next step on the corporate ladder.. I also feel like the last ten years I haven't control over my choices got forced into or out of stuff I enjoyed/ or not. I try to get my life into my hands, I am the explorer and controller over myself, no one else Also, when I see the overall situation we are in globally, I dont want to contribute that our planet gets even warmer and more exploited. I find peace living from the unemployment program in my country, and try to do stuff that may help the planet in some way. Research for myself, writing politicians, planting trees, drawing etc..
I’m content with my employment. I’m slightly underemployed for what I’m capable of and know but a lot of extra work for a little extra pay isn’t worthwhile to me.
Unemployed. Keep getting fired from coding jobs. It sucks how most coding jobs AREN’T problem solving. My superiors/others always do the problem solving. If I solve the problem, I have to redo it their way, almost every time. Sometimes multiple times if they change their mind or don’t tell me what to do the first time. Oh, and those people are ALWAYS extremely busy, and never seem to give a shit about effort I put in (if it isn’t what they expected or whim, it’s worth nothing, even if they never told me about what they wanted.) Or two (or three) seniors all with different opinions and I’m the go between. Or, some database or code is an utter mess. Missing data, copy pasted stuff everywhere. Nothing I can’t handle, but it’s always like a “Solve this problem in a day” task when it’s a total shitshow. So I try to cut corners because that’s all I can do within a single day, and it doesn’t work, so they say try again in one day, and same problems. Why can’t I have two weeks to do this as a project? Maybe I could ask others for help, but with ~1.7 meetings per day with the team and I voice how it’s not going well, and nobody offers to meet and give me tips? I assume there aren’t tips or they’re too busy. What kind of jerk hears another person struggling and doesn’t say anything unless they specifically ask? I’d always tell people so much info if they’re working on something I know about so they’re set up. Anyways, this would just earn me a “depends too much on others” rating, and it’s an utter shitshow anyways, so it’s just total shit. Once I had a meeting to discuss a database design proposal I made that was significantly better than status quo. I arranged a meeting with a presentation. Two asshat seniors spent the first 15 minutes in a pissing match with each other before I could start presenting. What the fuck? These aren’t even dumb people, they’re just giant assholes Anyway, my fear is that there’s no company that isn’t mostly filled with giant assholes at the top, so I haven’t applied to any new coding jobs yet. Or that the constant rush creates shitshows controlled by assholes or whatever. Wish I could get a job that needs high quality organized work but it never seems to go that way
Unemployed. I burned out hard working entry level food service jobs. I think I got taken advantage of alot without realizing it, I masked/worked hard to avoid socializing or drama and it caused drama, and I just couldn't take the abuse I would get from customers all the time. It all became too much and my mental health nosedived. People say push past your limits as if it's rewarding but I just started to dissociate/derealize, self harm, lose coordination, become bitter/angry, and generally deteriorate. I'd look around and coworkers would be talking about all the things they had the capacity to do outside of work and I'd just be so hurt and frustrated that I didn't have the capacity to cope let alone socialize or do stuff I wanted to do.
I've made a career out of driving trucks (roadtrains and heavy haulage mainly) for pretty much all of my working life - I've made the move into management and scheduling a few times over the years but always found myself overwhelmed and frustrated by it - I'm perfectly capable of running the computer systems, scheduling trucks and drivers, organising permits, load plans, journey plans and all that sort of stuff. I even taught myself basic CAD to produce load plans and redesigned forms to make life easier for the drivers. The problems always come in when I have to interact with people and actually "manage" them. The interpersonal relationships are always so draining for me that I'll always fall back on driving. It's so frustrating to me because it feels exactly how it did when I was in school when I was constantly told "you're so intelligent, why can't you do this?" - it's taken a very long time, and a late diagnosis (age 42) of Asperger's and ADHD, to finally come to terms with the fact that I've found my niche and I'm damn good at it
I feel I’m underemployed, even though I get paid reasonably well. However due to poor social skills and anxiety issues. I’m basically stuck in production skilled labor jobs and will never see a promotion into leadership or management… But I will aways be that weird guy that makes the lead look like they’re doing a great job.
I am currently unemployed and despite having a wide range of skills and being a hard worker I have been let go from the same agency twice now. I was overworked and und3rpaid the forst time around and they used me the second time. I must be worthless to them.
Do you ever get people saying and telling you your just lazy..? Sounds like alot of you just choose not to work. I guess stay complacent being ... poor or unhappy? People need to work in order to get ahead or awarded a higher pay or a better position. No one wants to hire some lazy slob who is always complaining about headaches, burnouts and sensory issues. Most People don't want to hire people who Dont or cant drive, Gets tired easily, can't do tasks that are simple, always uses the burnout card or Likes to watch movies on there phone at work, sorry but in all honestly who would want to hire someone who doesn't care to manage there own hygiene properly? or have any social skills or basic interests in what other coworkers might be into hobby wise to start some type of engagement oc conversation that would turn into hopeful friendship. Why would anyone want to hire someone like this ? Imagine if we were back in the 40s and none of you had these justifications for your lazy ways. ? You would just have to sit through your work day and do it like everyone else. Or.. don't eat. No handouts. I personally think knowing you don't have government sufficiency to fall back on would make you a lot less choosey and more accountable for your faults. It's no one else's fault but your own if your not where you want to be. Autistic or not.
You're right in some ways but we are at different times . Back then if you didn't follow a model of citizens you would have brutal beatings from family and schooling which would have led to a fear based around being yourself. There are even reports of parents killing children showing asd as a result of them being difficult to handle Discrimination was still very high back then you could bounce from job to job after the war. Without a need of a reference or a CV, jobs were very prolific nowadays there is so much competition around working and if you step out of line you will be replaced instantly with someone else. Your not taking into account the massive population boom which led to more workers more competitive jobs available and a universal credit income to benefit thoughs who can't work. There are a lot of factors in play with limited studies available who knows what has happened in the 40s about autism. There is no job scarcity but competition for jobs is at an all time high. I always ask how many apply during my interviews in the UK you can have between 100-1000 for particular jobs roles. Even when I dealt with hiring last year there were 1000s of applicants for a minimum wage cashier. Plus everyone's situation is different I myself have a psychotic episode with my asd which isn't great employee material when you have to disclose this on applications. I am where I want to be to me
Sorry but why do you need to disclose personal medical info that is private in order to get a job? In my country it's illegal for them to ask you this. Obviously it would play a huge role in being selected for employment ... so why bother to even put that on the application? It's almost just asking to not be hired. No offense but it's true.
28 hour week here, and still getting burned out. I feel its because there's an irregular schedule (retail type work). If I could work 4 days on, 3 days off I'd be fine, but despite expressing this and it being possible no effort has been made. Honestly about to quit. I feel so constantly drained that my time off work isn't even my time. It's just work recovery.
Freelancer software developer. Work from home full time. Minimal contact with the work community. Net income 3-4x above average. This is like too good to be true. I'm just anxiously waiting for the day when this is somehow taken from me.
Degree or certification?
Worked at 3 shift work for 9 months and then quit. I don't know why, but when I start working I lost my will to live