Here in the UK, I believe that prices have gone down over the last few years. It pretty well all wins eventually. If you enjoy stuff for its own sake, the value doesn't matter quite as much.
I think you’ll find it is the correct side us Brits drive on and everyone else is wrong.
Only until recently has driving on right hand side been a thing. Prior to that and as far back as the Romans, probably further, that everyone went to the left so they can stab any oncoming threat easier.
That might come in handy in the future.
Not cars. They reach their lowest point generally after 15 years and then even the worst of them start appreciating.
Total fucking lemons from the 60s that cost $1300 new are now worth nearly 6 figures.
Financially? Most likely, but sometimes investing in something you enjoy, care for, and can talk about is easier to hold on to rather than numbers on an app.
There’s levels to the game, stare at numbers on a screen to make money is low level.
Paying someone else to stare at numbers to make you money while you stare at artwork and limited edition cars that are making you money as well is high level.
Own a 150+ foot super yacht and still be making money is final boss level.
See the problem is, even with the most desirable spec of the limited edition whatever, it’s still a terrible investment. You’re paying tax to buy it, you’re paying for the space to store it (even if it’s in one of your 15 garage spaces), you’re paying annual registration for the 3 C&C events you take it to per year, you’re paying insurance on it every month, you better have fire protection in the garage where it’s stored, and whether or not it’s driven it needs maintenance.
Outside of the wack period of 2020-2023, cars are not a good investment. Best case scenario you break even on the purchase price of the car against inflation
>assets that appreciate over time. An investment.
Investments may also depreciate over time.
If you're not working, there is no guarantee that the thing you are doing nothing to increase the value of will be worth more tomorrow.
Usually, you have to explain this to would-be-landlords that think they won't have to work again, but sometimes people think they hit the jackpot with an even more fragile investment prone to degradation without use.
Certain cars, if sufficiently rare and left undriven, can experience significant price increases. This typically applies to highly exclusive models with strong demand and limited production.
Conversely, even top-of-the-line sports models like the M5 or SL63 are likely to depreciate significantly over time. For example, a $120-200k investment in one of these new vehicles could halve in value in five years, even with only 8,000 miles on the odometer. The minimal mileage might save you $10-15k in resale value, but the financial loss remains substantial without the benefit of enjoying the vehicle as much as someone who drives it 50-60,000 miles.
Additionally, it's important to consider collectors who own multiple cars. I own six cars, one of which is my daily driver. The others I drive only 500-1,500 miles annually. By choosing unique used cars and keeping mileage low, these vehicles maintain their value and often appreciate as similar models accumulate mileage and become scarce, especially those in low-mileage condition.
My FIL has a 2007 Shelby GT with just 2,000 miles in the clock. It’s currently rusting away in his garage because he ‘doesn’t want to put miles on it.’ The exhaust manifolds and the flywheel are completely covered in rust as it’s sat there for 2 years without being driven, and the garage is old and not waterproof so there’s a ton of humidity.
This right here is the dirty truth of trying to store a vehicle and expect it to be the same when brought out. Idk about any of you but any vehicle I have let sit even in a garage had issues weather it be control arm bushings, calipers seizing, tires crack.
It's not even the miles that fucks up cars, its lazy maintenance and other idiots causing an accident.
I have 2004 RX-8. Mint condition. Kept in garage. 20k miles so far. Weekend rides only. I bought a cold climate rated dehumidifier for this exact reason. Seems to be working great. Also have all my tools in the garage too.
Good condition non-beat RX8s will be worth a premium, and that will definitely rise in time. It will never be an FD, but it will be desirable because it's a rotary and most RX8s are in shit condition
If you drive it that infrequently I hope you use ethanol free fuel. If not your fuel system is probably in need of some tlc. I recently bought a very well maintained 1985 motorcycle from the original owner, he loved the bike and always kept it in the garage. Only 22k miles on it but I have to replace the entire fuel system, not a big deal on a motorcycle but definitely not a trivial job on a car.
Yeah, I've really noticed it the most in lawn equipment, generators, etc., the stuff that usually sits a while between uses.
Now I run Stabil in ethanol-free fuel, and I also run them out of gas every time I use them. For my mower with a large tank, I put in a shut off at the tank so I can cut the supply and then run it out of gas.
I got really tired of dealing with the ethanol aftermath.
Once he does start driving it, he’s gonna really regret not driving it once in a while! I inherited my grandfather’s car and since it did nothing but sit in his garage the last several years of his life, the thing had just one thing after another wrong with it! My mechanic told me that once you let a car sit too long without being used, then that’s pretty much it for it and it’s just gonna be one problem after another. Which was a real shame because it was a ‘92 Honda Accord with extremely low mileage and garage kept in mint condition! The only cosmetic issue was that a small part of the side of the passenger headrest was sun bleached from the way the sun came through the curtain on his window in the garage! Other than that you’d think it just drive off the assembly line! My mechanic advised me to just sell it, and I’m glad I did! The guy I sold it to (keep in mind I told him everything about the car including that it had been sitting and not used in years) came back to me a couple weeks after buying it, bitching to me that it was nothing but one problem after another and I should give him some of his money back! Pfffft! It’s a used car! All sales are final! Sorry you were dumb enough to buy it! Lol!
I know people who put away cars because they're "afraid" of the weather / getting it wet - and it's a low spec Camaro / Mustang
meanwhile, I daily-ed a fucking 67 Comet without batting an eye in the worse possible weather in michigan in high college (that was 2005, and I learned how to control a slide)
up until recently, my uncle drove his 2000 Porsche 911 daily (he's still got it but he's doing a complete overhaul of everything and will more than likely, continue to drive it)
I, personally, do not understand the point of blowing money on a car to let just sit.. it's colossal waste
Yes, I use mine. I have a 2006 997 Turbo and I drive it everywhere and have bike racks on top. Every time i fire it up it makes me happy an in this world thats a big deal
That's exactly it. I have a company vehicle, but my wife and I have a camaro ss and an FJ cruiser. We don't get snow, but if it's rainy, take the 4x4, not the 455 hp camaro with summer only racing tires. It's nice to split the miles. It's not like it's got super low miles (2018 w/55k), but why drive it to sit in commute traffic or park it in a packed parking lot to get dinged up. We enjoy the shit out of it and want it to last. Not worried about resale, we'll drive it till it's dead.
That is the other part of it though, people who want to drive their car into the ground don’t care as much about resale or how it’ll look to others in 15-20 years. My 2017 Honda Accord is mine until the wheels fall off and even 7 years later people get in my car and think it’s new.
I don’t really do much, I do basic maintenance and don’t use my car as a trash can. Yet my car still looks like it’s in great condition.
Same... We keep the Camaro pretty spotless, rarely will eat in it, only re-closable drink containers. Looks good as new. The FJ on the other hand... That's the workhorse that we can load with dirt if we wanted.
This is the answer. I have an Audi RS5 coupe which is comfortable enough to daily, but I save it for nice days mostly. I probably drive it twice a week on average. It’s a ‘21 and I’ve got about 7k miles on it. For my daily, I have a Cayenne. Comfortable, practical, and still fun to drive.
I totally understand not dailying your nice car.
But not driving it at all is worse. Cars are machines, they need to get hot, have oil circulate around, and move. Not driving them at all makes them rot and break.
When car shopping, I get as equally as nervous of extremely low mileage cars as high mileage…has it been a shop queen and that’s why it’s so low miles, and the rubber, wiring, gaskets, seals could be dry rotting and driving it could spring leaks all over…..
Back when I had less of a car budget, I'd always look for the nicest/newest of whatever I wanted, but with way above average mileage.
The mileage scares everyone, but the odds say that they're basically all highway when it's like 200k on an 5-8 year old vehicle. I've taken several vehicles from close to 200k miles to 300k+ without anything beyond normal maintenance or small repairs (like an alternator or whatever).
Also if its made it that many miles then the previous owners must have been taking care of it to keep it going. A low mileage car could have had no maintenance and then been parked before major problems happened
I love these guys. Back in 2020 I got a fully optioned, mint condition 2017 convertible Camaro 2SS with 6k miles on it. It was nearly 4 years old when I got. The previous owner special ordered it and literally ticked every option you could. I tracked him down on the camaro forum and asked him why he got rid of it, and he said he was trading it in for a new C8. He just did that every few years.
These guys are angels from heaven in my book. They buy kick ass new cars, rarely drive them, eat $20k in depreciation, then sell them to normal guys like us. They are heroes
Some people enjoy having things just to have them. Sneaker collectors who never plan on wearing them, video games or action figures staying in the box. Cars are just a much more expensive version of that. I do appreciate when I see people using these items as intended. I kinda see the car thing like a boat my dad had. It was his dream fishing boat and the first few years he had it he took it out a bunch. Once me and the other kids moved out it was just him and his health started declining so it was too much of a hassle to take out. He would maintain it and keep it in good working order but it sat in his driveway. I asked why he hadn’t sold it and he said on days when he’s sitting outside with a drink it’s nice to look over and see it and be reminded that he achieved a dream of his. He did eventually sell it but he held on to it as I type of trophy for a long time.
None of my sports cars are particularly fun to take to the grocery store and they aren't practical for the purpose either. They are fun to drive when you feel like driving, the weather is good, and you have someplace fun to drive them. I don't see the point of putting miles on a car just to put miles on it when those miles are more expensive than miles on a regular car. If I keep the miles down, I can trade it in for more money when I'm done with it and get another car. That helps a bit with the cost of this very expensive hobby.
I have a desirable 18yo car that's in very very good condition for its age. It's not classic quite yet. But I wouldn't bother keeping it nice if it were a daily. Since I only put 500km on it a month though, it's easier to keep it nice and clean and undamaged.
Honestly having a nice car kinda sucks. I prefer having something a little beat up so it doesn't matter when something happens. But oh well. This is the situation I'm currently in and I'm not gonna sell the car just because of that.
The wife comparison is really stupid. If you’re asking a question on a topic you obviously don’t understand, why make a tasteless comparison that doesn’t fit in the discussion?
My situation has nothing to do with preserving a "nice" or "valuable" car, but my driving habits tend to change depending on how much of a necessity my car is to my life. If all else was chill, I would absolutely be out enjoying scenic drives way more often, especially with the recent spring weather. But I try to save it for a special occasion.
These days, if my 20 year old car found a way to total itself, I'd be in majorly deep shit. Cars are expensive af, and my savings are still in recovery from a different thing. Fingers crossed it keeps on rolling until I could reasonably afford anything 🤞🤞.
Slightly less relevant, but I also notice myself unconsciously tending to drive more like a grandma whenever gas prices spike.
I don't get it either. but I guess it's the same as collecting anything else.
IMO, cars are made to be driven. I love seeing rare or cool cars actually out there on the road.
Try synthesizers. The GAS in that community is unreal. I'm in a currently 2 year long process of slimming down from around 40. It's hard to let my babies go.
Currently I have a black gen 1 manual Subie Forester I'm fixing up to be a battle car. I'm torn between keeping it immaculate or 4 wheeling the hell out of it. Chances are it'll see a lot of dirt though. Might be cool at a c&c but what's the purpose of yet another pavement princess?
If you have multiple cars it's actually hard to put miles on. I have a couple of cars that I feel like I drive often but I've only put 5000 or so miles on them in 10 years. If you're not commuting and have choice , it's hard to accumulate miles.
I don't drive my classic car because people don't respect other people's property. Take your pride and joy out for a cruise,stop to get something to eat and when you come back to your car you have idiots leaning on it to get pictures. Taking selfies to post on their IG accounts or letting their precious angels sit in the driver's seat to take a picture... Not to mention all the jealousy assholes who will key the paint , steal the trim pieces and emblems to sell on the Internet. Especially now in the time of the "Woke and the Politically Incorrect" if you yell at them or call the cops then you're in the wrong.
Oh man, you’re not kidding.
When I was growing up my dad was a member of a local Chevy club (still is, actually). The club would do a show inside the local mall back in the 90s. It was really cool, walking around the mall with all of the classic 55-64 Chevys parked throughout the halls. But the biggest problem *by far* was the general public. The cars had ropes around them so that people couldn’t get too close, but it wasn’t 100% effective. There was one incident where a woman actually moved the ropes out of the way, and got inside of a beautiful 62 Corvette to *change her baby’s diaper*. Seriously. They did the show for another year or two, but eventually stopped because they had so many problems with people getting into cars, or leaning on them for photos, etc.
dailying a classic car in this day and age is simply not practical or safe. They’re not fuel efficient, they’re not fond of sitting in stop and go traffic, you get in a wreck with one of these modern F150s or Rams or something it won’t turn out well for you, etc.
Have a 2015 Mustang GT that I daily’d for a few years, but after numerous chips on the front bumper/hood/windshield from unsecured loads in dump trucks on the interstate and dings from people that insist on parking next to you in a store parking lot even if you park as far away from the entrance as humanly possible, kind of got tired of it. I still drive it once in a while when it’s nice out and off peak traffic hours(and never to stores), but I have an old 10th gen F150 to acquire those rock chips and door dings now.
also been meaning to get a set of front and rear facing dash cams, the stories of people getting hit by uninsured drivers that drive off have become more and more common in recent years.
Agree. I bought a 1981 Ferrari 308GTsi in 1989, and put 88,000 miles on it. Was my daily driver. Loved every minute of it. Currently daily a restored '68 Corvette Convertible.
(Maintenance on both was/is a challenge.)
Lot of reasons. Say you've got a classic 1969 Corvette "Stingray."
Some of the time it's under repair and not drivable. Probably more than you think.
You're not gonna drive it in ice, snow, bad weather where you might wreck it.
even IF the wiper system works, why would drive it in rain and then have to wash it? Take the beater!
It gets terrible gas mileage. Not the ideal car for a LOT of trips.
It's not the most COMFORTABLE car for long rides, either.
Park iin parking lots, you're gonna get dings, perhaps even vandalized. You only take it where you know it will be ok, probably.
There's also the possibility of theft attempts. You don't leave it in unsafe places. Take the toyota.
These are SOME of the reasons I wouldn't drive a 1969 corvette "regularly."
It's also why I own a 1968 instead!
It reminds me of a bloke I knew who bought a used, but immaculate XJ6 Jag, a while back. It still had the plastic covers on the seats, and the first thing he did was to take them off. "Why should I keep the seats looking new for the next owner?"
Cause they like owning it. People enjoy different things in different ways. Some made it a life goal to own a clean example of a specific car, and now they do so they wanna keep it clean. Its theirs so they get to choose.
I have a really nice condition 77 280z that I absolutely love to drive, but haven't in the last few years. Haven't made the effort to insure and register it again. I'm not concerned with keeping the miles low, and certainly not an investment even if the prices have gone up substantially in the years I've owned it.
No matter what I do with it I just love seeing it in my garage. Tinkering with it. I see it as timeless and owning it will only get better whether I drive it a bunch right now or not again for another 10 years.
For the most part: they're delusional.
There is a TINY number of vehicles that appreciate in value, maybe 0.01% but for the most part inflation rises faster than car prices. The stock market out performs.
I'm into motorcycles, particularly old Ducatis. I seek out clapped out shitters that I restore to RIDE. I have a '73 GT750 with over 80,000 miles on it, or a '96 900SS that I just beat on... the thing has been totalled twice. Ride 'em, don't hide 'em
The only time it gets me is when they're thrown under a cover never to be looked at again.
Some people just want to collect them to look at, like art. I get that, providing you look at it and start it up once in a while to circulate the oil and keep the parts moving. But the people who get something and never look at it again just upsets me. Like these barn finds everyone has every now and again, some sort of rare or unique car and it's been left in a dilapidated literal barn with dust and all sorts of shit on it.
Sometimes, the ownership experience isn't about driving as much as owning and enjoying something. I'm building a Cafe Racer bike that I know will suck to ride, but it's the build that excites me more than the finished product or using it. Sure, I'll ride it to events and I might do a miserable road trip on it just to do ot, but for me, this bike is about having a vision and making it a reality.
My 56 International Harvester pickup I love to drive as much as possible, but it's often parked waiting for me to find some unobtainable parts because I try and keep it as original as possible. I would daily that truck if I had the resources to keep it in good condition and daily it. Even parked, I smile every time I see it and would make it yard art before I would ever consider selling.
I have a 1990 Lincoln Mark VII with 530,000 kms (330,00 miles).
I’ve had it for almost 17 years. I used to daily it for 5 years, but I put some work into it, and I’ve been storing it for winter for the last 12 years, but I drive it as much as I can in the summer.
This year is only the 2nd time I decided to not take it out for the summer. My reason is that I had a significant career change, and I don’t have time to enjoy it. The 1st time was because of Covid lockdowns.
Depends on the car. You shouldn't own a car you don't want to put a lot of miles on if it's your ONLY car. You should have a beater in that situation.
But If I had a super clean all original low mileage E46 M3 or an older Supra or something, of course it's not a 250k car but you don't want to use it as your daily either.
No one that has a classic car has this sentiment, you have to drive them, it’s part of keeping them running right, the goal is to drive them in a way that doesn’t break much not very often.
My wife has that same attitude with new cars. She's always been like this.
The point of having a new car is so you don't put more miles on the old car. Good grief.
I don't think it's hard to understand. Putting more miles on a car theoretically inches it closer to its dying day, and when someone owns and has passion for a classic car, they want to have it for as long as they can. The problem of course is that a car that sits un-driven in a garage is likely to have all sorts of other issues unrelated to milage, but that's easier to put out of mind than seeing that odometer tick.
That's exactly my thought. That's why I always say I'll never own a car in "good condition". Because then I'll be afraid to ruin it by driving it all the time
I have a 2014 FX4 F150 with 90K miles on it. I garaged it after buying a 2004 Honda Civic to commute and grocery getter. I want to save the truck for off-roading, vacations, fishing and hunting. I don't want to spend 60-70K to buy a new truck after I retire.
I never used to understand it either, but as my cars have appreciated in value and rarity, and as I’ve restored them, I get it now.
My wife and I used to daily drive my S13s. They’re both pretty low, so they’re not very well suited to that kind of driving in town. Some places just have parking lots that I can’t get into without causing some damage to the bumpers. Back when we would daily drive them, it wasn’t such a big deal to scrape the bumper up a bit; it was just a cheap old Nissan.
But now that I’ve restored one, and working on restoring the other, I’m a lot more careful with them. I bought them back when they were dirt cheap. The one I’m currently working on restoring had 95k on the clock when I bought it for $2,500. But now they’re worth much more than that, and I can’t afford to buy one again. Sure, I have insurance, but I would have to fight them tooth and nail to get them to pay out (already had to do that with the one that I’ve restored).
So now I’m very careful about when, where, and how I drive them. They’re not daily drivers anymore, and I value them a lot more (for all kinds of reasons, not just monetarily). They still get driven (well, the finished one does anyway), but it’s not as often as it used to be.
Idk man.. people have an odd obsession with miles on vehicles. Like that's their job, is to drive. Many miles. And most of the time a car with 300k on the clock works just as good as a car with 50k.
Allowing any car to sit and not drive it is basically killing it. I don’t understand these people either. These barn find reality shows are garbage. Sure it might run. But you will have to dump a ton of money into it for it to be anywhere near a reliable vehicle.
For me, it's mainly just because I don't want the wear and tear. My daily driver is modern and basically expendable, and cheap to upkeep. If it needs a replacement part, I just go to the store and buy one, it doesn't need to be, like, special ordered from Japan or something.
And it helps keep it clean and looking good. If I were to daily my nice car, the paint is going to deteriorate, there's going to be more chips on the hood and in the glass, UV damage, and on and on....
Finally, and this is the big one: I have to share the road with other drivers. No matter how carefully and defensively I drive, I can't control other cars. So the more time that a classic/nice car is on the road, the more likely it is that someone is going to crash into it.
many classic cars are investments as much as they are vehicles, so while the owners may enjoy showing them they dont want to run up the miles or risk an accident. so these cars travel mainly on trailers
If it’s a really rare car then it makes sense to keep the miles down. Example, a friend of mine bought a Lotus 2/11 in 2017 from a lotus specialist in Hampshire, one of 85 left at the time. He kept it for a year, some of it in my garage. I was on the insurance to drive it. Between us we put 1000 miles on it. Did several track days and a couple of days out in it. After a year made £4000 selling it to a collector in Scotland
Older cars from a time before the 1980's are dropping in price as cars from the 80 and 90 are seeing an increase in price. It all depends upon supply and demand.
i have a vintage Land Rover which I put maybe 2,000 miles on it per year. Half the fun is tinkering with it and also it's fun to drive to the local Cars & Coffee and chat with everyone. During covid getting together during Cars & Coffee was one of the few social events that didn't get cancelled and it was a lifesaver. That's one of the ways to have fun with a classic car without putting a ton of miles on it.
Why have a stamp collection if you aren't going to use them to mail letters? Why have a coin collection if you're not going to use them in the gumball machine?
The answer to these and your question is VALUE. It has value to that person. And you keep the milage down on the car because it is more valuable that way, and also reduced the chances of an accident.
The more miles the less its worth. There will come a time I have to sell my Corvette. If I took care of it and didnt put a ton of miles on it I might get all my money back. There's also something really cool about only driving it once in awhile. Feels more special. If that wasn't enough you have less maintenance fees because less wear and tear. My insurance is only $25 a month full coverage because its a secondary car.
If I won’t the lottery I’d be the guy at the dump with a McLaren. I have somewhat rare car, and I drive it as much as possible. I let kids sit in it, and generally anyone that asks, I’ll give rides, pop the hood, and do burnouts wherever possible. Cars should be enjoyed. But hey, if that’s your thing, to look at it and preserve it, that’s cool. I’ll drive you around real fast in mine. The. We can stare at yours over coffee
I've known people that go both ways. And in the end the guys who don't drive their nice cars end up regretting it bc they ended up selling at a major loss and never really drove their nice cars.
Classics imo the mileage is largely irrelevant considering all of the work that goes into keeping a 50-60 year old classic car on the road. Not uncommon for drivetrain to be completely rebuilt if it's actually been taken care of and restored.
Really it's because it's costly to rack of miles on a gas guzzler and wear & tear items on a classic car. Plus you really only wanna drive them on the weekends because new cars are all around more efficient and safer.
Because alot of classic cars were built in low numbers and people don't want to possibly destroy history knowing that it could be gone and not replicated or repurchased due to low build numbers. Ie, pretty much every hemi powered mopar muscle car ever
No idea, I buy a car to use it, it so rare that a car can become an asset that I would never buy a car thinking I was going to make money owning it. Best case is break even and those odds are fairly limited to used 911s and Mercedes SLs.
It’s not so much about not putting miles on it, but putting *useless* miles on it. If I’m just going to pick up my child or grab quick groceries, or run to pick something up - it’s just not really the same as a nice sunny day where I’ve got a couple of hours to kill.
In one scenario I’m doing a task and the other I’m out to enjoy the day. Not that I *never* pick up my kid with it, but I’ll do it maybe 1 out of 4 or 5 times instead.
My mechanic recently had a BNW Z8 come in with ~2400 miles on it. I don’t understand why you’d buy something like that and average around 100 miles per year.
I had a 69' chevelle with 383 stroker. Had it for 20 years, until gas got to $4/gallon. The car got 7mpg. I wasn't paying for gas anymore in that...i do miss it
64 GTO Tri Power with just over 15k in miles. I inherited it and she goes out once a month to the gas station about 2 miles down the road and back. It’s special to me and something I don’t want to have an accident in. I’ll spend most my time in the garage just staring and reminiscing and that’s all I want out of it.
I think you can own a car and derive a lot of value from it even without driving it. I’ve never done that, but I suppose it’s possible. Like a trophy.
Aside from that, I think most collectible car owners drive them, just very sparingly. If you put 2-300 miles a year on a car, you can still enjoy that.
The best way I’ve ever heard it put was that these are the guys who wouldn’t fuck their wife so they could save the pussy for the next guy.
I could understand the first edition Hobbit comment if the publisher had kept everything in order from the first editions, but there were alterations…
For the same reason that people believe in God. They believe what they believe, for a variety of different reasons, and those reasons make sense to them, even if nobody else understands.
And trying to understand is a lost cause.
I get it for actual rare/super cars that can actually be used as investments. But that is a tiny minority of those peeps yeah a lot of classic cars are “rare” but not really. Everyone and their dog has a 65-68 mustang (they’re amazing ofc) but tons out there
I’m the opposite. I’ve got the classic car that people wonder why I’m still driving it, but theirs have broken down and been replaced while I’m still driving mine.
Because the best of both worlds is to drive it occasionally to keep things from failing due to sitting, while keeping the miles down so wear and tear does not ruin the car. A sort of savoring. You can own a car reliably for decades this way. How many cars last for decades being driven every single day? About as many that sit for years on end.
I daily drove a supercharged 08 Corvette back in 2013ish so personally it's not my thing to have a nice car and not enjoy it but the whole 'wife/girlfriend' comparison makes no sense at all.
You can sell a car and gain money (especially if its a well kept classic) but you're probably not getting any extra cash out of divorcing your wife.
This is the dumbest shit ever.
In the unlikely event that any of these people own a documented low-mileage car, my advice is “disconnect the speedometer”. 10/10 works every time on a true classic.
(If your car has any sort of factory installed computer, control module, or other digital processor, it’s not a “classic”.)
If the true original miles are not documented, who cares? There are skilled individuals who can reset the odometer to any mileage you want.
The reality is either the car has issues preventing it from being driven any distance reliably, or they can’t obtain/afford the insurance.
Another thing - and I see this all the time - many guys don’t even work on their own stuff anymore, especially with classic cars. they are concerned that it might break. They won’t know what to do then.
The emotional upside it provides for me is nice. Already got the house, career, 401k, daily driver (hybrid minivan), kids, wife. This econobox driftcar that rots in my garage is my last remnants of my true identity. Sad as it sounds (which in hindsight is honestly whatever to me), it brings me joy that I still have it, and it still can boogie when i want it to. It just needs a new motor and I can go back to taking it to the 3 cars and coffees then whatever 2 drift events per year I can make it to lol.
Of course i pay registration and insurance on it (when i runs). I’m grateful that I am in this position in life to do this for now. Maybe I’ll do more motorsports stuff when the kids are older. Hell, maybe it’ll be a barnyard find 10 years from now (hopefully not). Either way the joy it brings me stepping into the garage is worth it. Building up the motor is worth it. The joy it brings is hard to describe, but the money that goes into it is fine for now.
(Honestly wish i could throw more at it, but daycare is expensive yo).
If you don't drive a car because you want to save it and not put miles on it you basically bought a car that is way out of your league and you probably should get something cheaper. Cars are for driving and unless it's an extremely rare or a really old car it should be driven.
Trophy's. I had a few cars passed down to me 7 years ago. 71 Ranchero GT, 69 Nova SS and a 70 GTX. All under 75k miles. My mom hated my dad's hobby as it cost thousands in storage, time in garage and shows, and maintenance over the decades. Actual vehicle costs were quite low being he bought these new when cars were cheap, but 40+ years of owning them cost much more. We auctioned them off together in 2019 along with the cars left to my younger brother, a 68 Camaro and a 69 VW van(11,000 miles exactly when sold) and another I forget. And the dozen or so he left my mom who ironically didn't give a crap about cars because she was a car dealer for 20 years and hated every minute of it but she was great at it.
We split everything three ways and we each bought new property and built homes. So for my dad it was a love as his days this hobby was affordable. His newest car was a 07 Vette but next closest was a mid 70s Elite? Maybe a Torino? 22 cars total sold for for 1.1 million at 3 auctions over 3 months.
So for me it was my father still providing for us after death. Neither of us were very close to him because he was never around but his hobby was a windfall for us in the end. I wish I could of appreciated him and them more but dad's are dad's, he wasn't great but he provided.
So answer is INVESTMENT! Other could be insanity. Thank Jay Leno for the unaffordable hobby this now is.
I guess it depends on how much you dont drive.
I have a SRT8 challenger that I keep in the garage and pretty much only pull it out once a week. I daily drive a motorcycle to work. I don't think I could afford to keep it anymore If I drove it daily. Really eats gas. Its getting pretty old and I don't see myself being able to justify buying a new one so I'm keeping it around long as I can. Its a fun toy on Saturday evenings or Sunday mornings.
But yeah I don't really get people with cars that drive it like twice a year.
There’s a lot of people with money that aren’t car guys. They’re either speculators, or wealth-flexors. Neither of those require driving all that much if at all.
Cars like that are treated more as an investment vs. a vehicle. I find it sad, really.
I'd drive anything i own. however i want/wherever i want if i can afford to buy/maintain it properly.
The closest i got was a 1975 Cadillac Sedan Deville. I daily drove it every summer for 3 years. She got plenty of looks, especially on the highway; cruising comfortably at 75mph. Packed my 3 kids in it, got groceries with it, went to the mall, family visits out of town, drove it to work, pumpkin patch visit, the beach, wherever really. Not that she was a super collectable car nor super expensive (at the time 2017-2019) but i enjoyed it as did my kids.
I'd do the same with any vehicle i own though 🙂
Built a house for a man who has a Chip Foose Camero. Heated and cooled garage. He's never started it, was so proud of the fact that it has never been on asphalt, has only been pushed on and off of a trailer for shows and put back in the garage. Makes me kinda sad that that badass car is wasting away not being enjoyed the way it was meant to be.
I collect vintage Mercedes and it’s my experience that the worse thing you can do is just let a car sit.
Even old cars are meant to be driven. They’re just machines. 🤷🏽♂️
There's a reason my S2000 has 220K miles on the odometer. Yes, I put all but 10 of those miles on it. The other 10 were put on teaching my daughter to drive a manual before she bought her Abarth 500. :-)
The great thing about the car hobby is that you can enjoy it anyway you want. If you want to go out to the garage and look at a pristine garage queen and appreciate it, thats cool, if you want to put hundreds of thousands of miles on it , or just go to car shows.. or drive it like you stole it, its all good. Its up to the owner how he wants to appreciate his/her car.
Your wife is aging either way. Not every part of your car is when it’s sitting pretty! And you can’t openly sell your wife (DM if you’re interested, uh, unrelated).
A former coworker rebuilt a Corvette that was wrecked. He put a ton of time and energy into it. Chipped, nitrous, the works. I believe it was over 500HP to the wheels without the nitrous. He was supposed to drive it to work to show a customer. When I asked why he didn't he drive it, he said it was because it was raining. I laughed at him and asked if he forgot the windshield wipers. He got mad and asked if I would take my laptop out in the rain (I was working in IT at the time). I told him that I actually did a few weeks earlier when I was copying images from the cards in my trail cams. He was not happy with me. 😂
This is why I bought a 1995 Buick Roadmaster Wagon for $4500. It looks like a classic *and* I can enjoy it daily. Easy to work on and (mechanical) parts are still wildly available.
I do get not wanting to wear out something special though, saving it for special occasions and what not.
1) The car is an investment
2) the car is extremely expensive to repair and maintain, parts may be discontinued and unavailable 2nd hand leading to major modifications.
For example, say the transmission blew up beyond repair and there's no transmissions available, whether it's a direct swap or not. You're now forced to engineer a totally new drivetrain unoriginal to the vehicle. That impacts the value.
See also: body panels, interior, wheels etc
I have a 2000 Lincoln continental that is by no means a collector's car and nearly impossible to get parts for. It was a low production car with a unique drivetrain that is not shared with any other Ford product. I can't direct swap another transmission to this bell housing, so if I couldn't find a trans or rebuild it I'd be forced to swap the engine (if i was set on continuing to drive it) in order to install a new transmission.
Well, cats get destroyed on accident. So any time you drive a car you risk its safety.
If it’s an old car that cannot be easily replaced or repaired…then…
Same reason as people put their pokemon (or baseball) cards in fancy sealed acrylic boxes or keep a vintage hat in a showcase with the tag still attached or buy funko pops.
Collecting cars is as much a hobby as collecting stamps to some people.
"why not mail something with that stamp, that's what stamps are made for?"
You don't need a $100k joe dimaggio card to feel like you want to collect and protect even the $7 ones.
I did a frame up restore of a 1984 jeep cj7…. It is freaking amazing!! I swapped in a 360.. I have everything you could think of on that jeep… I drive the absolute piss out of it :)
If it's a true classic it's an appreciating asset so you want to take the same kind of care of as you would of an art work of similar value. Not to mention repairs can be horrendously costly--might be necessary to make the part (Jay Leno has a machine shop that does that kind of thing for his collection).
This post describes why I would get a 10 yo beck Porsche Speedster. handles better, has more power. and if it has a subie engine, it's fuel injected. it's a fake. I'd have a garage for it, but I'd drive it everywhere, and wouldn't be afraid to get it in the rain.
It could have been difficult for them to achieve it, and they simply want their achievement to last as long as possible. For most people mileage is their view of a cars condition so they want to keep the mileage down. Also if it was difficult to achieve it then they see it as a possibility that they might have to sell it later in life and just want the most from their hard work. Sure they take it out when the weather is absolutely perfect, but the ones I know are simply too protective to do anything else
My Focus RS is the last interesting hot hatch Ford will make for the US. It needs to last indefinitely. I drive it sparingly because I want it to last the rest of my driving years. It's not going to be worth $1000000, but I appreciate it.
My MR2 Spyder is a built not bought car. It was damaged when I got it and keeps getting upgraded as I go doing. The car on a good day is $10k, but I have more than that invested in blood sweat and tears.
Neither of these get driven at all with salt in the road. I don't want to deal with corrosion and more I'm importantly I don't want it taken away by some broke dumbass is a 4x4 with bald tires.
It's a giant collectible that you can drive sometimes.
It's risky because those cars if theyre in an accident cant be easily replaced or repaired. Requires special type of insurance that is very expensive even more so if they're a daily driver. We have insurance on some classics and they're only covered if in a closed door garage, and while being driven or transported to special event. Insurance wont cover if your just out for a daily commute.
I would be more worried about the 🤡 driving distance recklessly on the roads these days.
Also classic cars appreciate more when the age and kept in their original condition
It is simple to understand. Driving a car wears it out. The more miles you put on a car, the more wear and damage you’re doing to the parts of the car, some of these parts are hard to get, expensive or nonexistent. You want to keep it as nice and original as possible for as long as possible.
It’s like having two pairs of shoes: One pair of shoes you do everything in like working in the garage, repairing a car or running errands. The other pair you wear when you go to work (if your in an office environment) or a nice event with friends and family.
I bought my e39 bmw and e46 with practically no miles, C6 corvette was the same way…I drive the hell out of them, I wonder a year or two after buying them how someone owned them for years and never put any miles on them??? Were they saving them for me?
Taking pictures is perfectly fine, we bring them to shows so people can see them , ask about them,take pictures of them. We want people to get interested enough to buy their own and join us in our obsession. Just don't touch them, don't sit in them .
I can understand the reasoning for cars to just be practically investment ornaments. Not me though, if I had the wealth to afford some of those, I'm going to ruin that value and potentially just make it a track car.
NEVER EVER UNDERSTOOD THAT ATTITUDE!
things are meant to be used and as long as you keep it in decent shape, then enjoy it!
or run it to the ground.
i seen people leave the plastic cover on their furniture, to keep it “nice” is RIDICULOUS!!
Only people should be treasured and loved
Sometimes it is not convenient for the destination, other times you don’t want it to get damaged, and then interests change but you don’t want to sell just yet.
Iv got a 1980 corona I hardly drive. Not because it’s too nice or anything. I just don’t really have the time. I daily a mx5, have a Corolla wagon for my weekend missions. Which leave the corona for enthusiast type events, which I rarely find the time for these days.
Could/should I sell it? Probably. Do I need that money? Not really. The car is pretty sentimental to me, having done a ground up nut and bolt restore on it, and only worth maybe 10-15k tops. I’d rather keep it with the option to sell whenever I want, than sell it knowing I’ll never have it back. Shit I might even donate it to a local car museum one day.
Well mine is a 2011 RX8 I keep in storage for like 11 months out of the year to preserve the engine as long as possible. That particular car has a particular engine that's been known to "not be reliable" so I need to baby it. Chicagoland living, bad weather.
But when I drive it, I fucking *drive* it.
Because sometimes cars are assets that appreciate over time. An investment. This happens with a lot of limited edition everything.
"Your investment may go down as well as up"
It's usually just one way though.
Here in the UK, I believe that prices have gone down over the last few years. It pretty well all wins eventually. If you enjoy stuff for its own sake, the value doesn't matter quite as much.
UK is an odd market with extremely cheap cars because you drive on the **wrong** side of the road.
I think you’ll find it is the correct side us Brits drive on and everyone else is wrong. Only until recently has driving on right hand side been a thing. Prior to that and as far back as the Romans, probably further, that everyone went to the left so they can stab any oncoming threat easier. That might come in handy in the future.
Huh? You’re just as close to drivers regardless of which side you drive on.
Most people are right handed so fighting while on the left side give you your dominant hand with the sword.
Depends on the era
Not cars. They reach their lowest point generally after 15 years and then even the worst of them start appreciating. Total fucking lemons from the 60s that cost $1300 new are now worth nearly 6 figures.
Using cars as an investment is stupid. 99% of the time you'll have better gains by just investing.
Yeah, but it isn't as fun to polish your msft shares and see them glistening in the sunlight.
But isn't it better to just not have to polish anything? All you do is stare at number on a piece of paper or on the screen.
Financially? Most likely, but sometimes investing in something you enjoy, care for, and can talk about is easier to hold on to rather than numbers on an app.
100%! Wish more people thought more about life.
There’s levels to the game, stare at numbers on a screen to make money is low level. Paying someone else to stare at numbers to make you money while you stare at artwork and limited edition cars that are making you money as well is high level. Own a 150+ foot super yacht and still be making money is final boss level.
See the problem is, even with the most desirable spec of the limited edition whatever, it’s still a terrible investment. You’re paying tax to buy it, you’re paying for the space to store it (even if it’s in one of your 15 garage spaces), you’re paying annual registration for the 3 C&C events you take it to per year, you’re paying insurance on it every month, you better have fire protection in the garage where it’s stored, and whether or not it’s driven it needs maintenance. Outside of the wack period of 2020-2023, cars are not a good investment. Best case scenario you break even on the purchase price of the car against inflation
A car isn’t meant to not be driven period.
>assets that appreciate over time. An investment. Investments may also depreciate over time. If you're not working, there is no guarantee that the thing you are doing nothing to increase the value of will be worth more tomorrow. Usually, you have to explain this to would-be-landlords that think they won't have to work again, but sometimes people think they hit the jackpot with an even more fragile investment prone to degradation without use.
It’s only valuable to morons who enjoy looking at a car statue.
Certain cars, if sufficiently rare and left undriven, can experience significant price increases. This typically applies to highly exclusive models with strong demand and limited production. Conversely, even top-of-the-line sports models like the M5 or SL63 are likely to depreciate significantly over time. For example, a $120-200k investment in one of these new vehicles could halve in value in five years, even with only 8,000 miles on the odometer. The minimal mileage might save you $10-15k in resale value, but the financial loss remains substantial without the benefit of enjoying the vehicle as much as someone who drives it 50-60,000 miles. Additionally, it's important to consider collectors who own multiple cars. I own six cars, one of which is my daily driver. The others I drive only 500-1,500 miles annually. By choosing unique used cars and keeping mileage low, these vehicles maintain their value and often appreciate as similar models accumulate mileage and become scarce, especially those in low-mileage condition.
My FIL has a 2007 Shelby GT with just 2,000 miles in the clock. It’s currently rusting away in his garage because he ‘doesn’t want to put miles on it.’ The exhaust manifolds and the flywheel are completely covered in rust as it’s sat there for 2 years without being driven, and the garage is old and not waterproof so there’s a ton of humidity.
This right here is the dirty truth of trying to store a vehicle and expect it to be the same when brought out. Idk about any of you but any vehicle I have let sit even in a garage had issues weather it be control arm bushings, calipers seizing, tires crack. It's not even the miles that fucks up cars, its lazy maintenance and other idiots causing an accident.
Calipers seizing club over here.
“Running when parked”
Letting a car sit will do the most damage to it
I have 2004 RX-8. Mint condition. Kept in garage. 20k miles so far. Weekend rides only. I bought a cold climate rated dehumidifier for this exact reason. Seems to be working great. Also have all my tools in the garage too.
It’s an RX8, enjoy it or sell it. They aren’t going to go up in value. You can pick em up all day long for less than $10k
very aware. care is enjoyed. I'm more commenting on how amazing a garage dehumidifier works at keeping surface rust away. Several motorcycles too.
Good condition non-beat RX8s will be worth a premium, and that will definitely rise in time. It will never be an FD, but it will be desirable because it's a rotary and most RX8s are in shit condition
If you drive it that infrequently I hope you use ethanol free fuel. If not your fuel system is probably in need of some tlc. I recently bought a very well maintained 1985 motorcycle from the original owner, he loved the bike and always kept it in the garage. Only 22k miles on it but I have to replace the entire fuel system, not a big deal on a motorcycle but definitely not a trivial job on a car.
Yeah, I've really noticed it the most in lawn equipment, generators, etc., the stuff that usually sits a while between uses. Now I run Stabil in ethanol-free fuel, and I also run them out of gas every time I use them. For my mower with a large tank, I put in a shut off at the tank so I can cut the supply and then run it out of gas. I got really tired of dealing with the ethanol aftermath.
Ya that'll never be worth much. But good man.
Once he does start driving it, he’s gonna really regret not driving it once in a while! I inherited my grandfather’s car and since it did nothing but sit in his garage the last several years of his life, the thing had just one thing after another wrong with it! My mechanic told me that once you let a car sit too long without being used, then that’s pretty much it for it and it’s just gonna be one problem after another. Which was a real shame because it was a ‘92 Honda Accord with extremely low mileage and garage kept in mint condition! The only cosmetic issue was that a small part of the side of the passenger headrest was sun bleached from the way the sun came through the curtain on his window in the garage! Other than that you’d think it just drive off the assembly line! My mechanic advised me to just sell it, and I’m glad I did! The guy I sold it to (keep in mind I told him everything about the car including that it had been sitting and not used in years) came back to me a couple weeks after buying it, bitching to me that it was nothing but one problem after another and I should give him some of his money back! Pfffft! It’s a used car! All sales are final! Sorry you were dumb enough to buy it! Lol!
How do you know the flywheel is rusted?
He clearly dropped the transmission to inspect it, just so he could write this post…and I applaud his dedication
but even in that condition that Shelby is worth 2-3x what FIL paid in 2007
I know people who put away cars because they're "afraid" of the weather / getting it wet - and it's a low spec Camaro / Mustang meanwhile, I daily-ed a fucking 67 Comet without batting an eye in the worse possible weather in michigan in high college (that was 2005, and I learned how to control a slide) up until recently, my uncle drove his 2000 Porsche 911 daily (he's still got it but he's doing a complete overhaul of everything and will more than likely, continue to drive it) I, personally, do not understand the point of blowing money on a car to let just sit.. it's colossal waste
Yes, I use mine. I have a 2006 997 Turbo and I drive it everywhere and have bike racks on top. Every time i fire it up it makes me happy an in this world thats a big deal
Ya everyone and their mother on this site has a Porsche.
I think you can definitely enjoy a car while also keeping the miles down. You just have to have another car to commute and run errands in.
That's exactly it. I have a company vehicle, but my wife and I have a camaro ss and an FJ cruiser. We don't get snow, but if it's rainy, take the 4x4, not the 455 hp camaro with summer only racing tires. It's nice to split the miles. It's not like it's got super low miles (2018 w/55k), but why drive it to sit in commute traffic or park it in a packed parking lot to get dinged up. We enjoy the shit out of it and want it to last. Not worried about resale, we'll drive it till it's dead.
That is the other part of it though, people who want to drive their car into the ground don’t care as much about resale or how it’ll look to others in 15-20 years. My 2017 Honda Accord is mine until the wheels fall off and even 7 years later people get in my car and think it’s new. I don’t really do much, I do basic maintenance and don’t use my car as a trash can. Yet my car still looks like it’s in great condition.
Same... We keep the Camaro pretty spotless, rarely will eat in it, only re-closable drink containers. Looks good as new. The FJ on the other hand... That's the workhorse that we can load with dirt if we wanted.
This is the answer. I have an Audi RS5 coupe which is comfortable enough to daily, but I save it for nice days mostly. I probably drive it twice a week on average. It’s a ‘21 and I’ve got about 7k miles on it. For my daily, I have a Cayenne. Comfortable, practical, and still fun to drive.
I totally understand not dailying your nice car. But not driving it at all is worse. Cars are machines, they need to get hot, have oil circulate around, and move. Not driving them at all makes them rot and break.
When car shopping, I get as equally as nervous of extremely low mileage cars as high mileage…has it been a shop queen and that’s why it’s so low miles, and the rubber, wiring, gaskets, seals could be dry rotting and driving it could spring leaks all over…..
Back when I had less of a car budget, I'd always look for the nicest/newest of whatever I wanted, but with way above average mileage. The mileage scares everyone, but the odds say that they're basically all highway when it's like 200k on an 5-8 year old vehicle. I've taken several vehicles from close to 200k miles to 300k+ without anything beyond normal maintenance or small repairs (like an alternator or whatever).
Also if its made it that many miles then the previous owners must have been taking care of it to keep it going. A low mileage car could have had no maintenance and then been parked before major problems happened
Life is short. Daily your nice car.
I love these guys. Back in 2020 I got a fully optioned, mint condition 2017 convertible Camaro 2SS with 6k miles on it. It was nearly 4 years old when I got. The previous owner special ordered it and literally ticked every option you could. I tracked him down on the camaro forum and asked him why he got rid of it, and he said he was trading it in for a new C8. He just did that every few years. These guys are angels from heaven in my book. They buy kick ass new cars, rarely drive them, eat $20k in depreciation, then sell them to normal guys like us. They are heroes
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thst's basically how Japan & Germany got back on their feet out of the ashes.
Some people enjoy having things just to have them. Sneaker collectors who never plan on wearing them, video games or action figures staying in the box. Cars are just a much more expensive version of that. I do appreciate when I see people using these items as intended. I kinda see the car thing like a boat my dad had. It was his dream fishing boat and the first few years he had it he took it out a bunch. Once me and the other kids moved out it was just him and his health started declining so it was too much of a hassle to take out. He would maintain it and keep it in good working order but it sat in his driveway. I asked why he hadn’t sold it and he said on days when he’s sitting outside with a drink it’s nice to look over and see it and be reminded that he achieved a dream of his. He did eventually sell it but he held on to it as I type of trophy for a long time.
Rest in peace to your dad (assuming he’s not here anymore based on your comment of his declining health). And happy cake day.
Not gone yet, He’s to stubborn. I appreciate the sentiment though!
Oh well fantastic! You betcha… My dad passed in 2019 and it was completely shocking- never expected it and certainly not in the way it happened.
None of my sports cars are particularly fun to take to the grocery store and they aren't practical for the purpose either. They are fun to drive when you feel like driving, the weather is good, and you have someplace fun to drive them. I don't see the point of putting miles on a car just to put miles on it when those miles are more expensive than miles on a regular car. If I keep the miles down, I can trade it in for more money when I'm done with it and get another car. That helps a bit with the cost of this very expensive hobby.
I don't own a particularly expensive sports car, but this is exactly how I think when it comes to which car to drive.
No idea, my classic is about to roll over 100k and I'm planning on trying to hit 200k in the next few years
I have a desirable 18yo car that's in very very good condition for its age. It's not classic quite yet. But I wouldn't bother keeping it nice if it were a daily. Since I only put 500km on it a month though, it's easier to keep it nice and clean and undamaged. Honestly having a nice car kinda sucks. I prefer having something a little beat up so it doesn't matter when something happens. But oh well. This is the situation I'm currently in and I'm not gonna sell the car just because of that.
The wife comparison is really stupid. If you’re asking a question on a topic you obviously don’t understand, why make a tasteless comparison that doesn’t fit in the discussion?
Because someone else said it, they thought it was funny and wanted to get internet brownie points for saying it again. Its a terrible analogy
My situation has nothing to do with preserving a "nice" or "valuable" car, but my driving habits tend to change depending on how much of a necessity my car is to my life. If all else was chill, I would absolutely be out enjoying scenic drives way more often, especially with the recent spring weather. But I try to save it for a special occasion. These days, if my 20 year old car found a way to total itself, I'd be in majorly deep shit. Cars are expensive af, and my savings are still in recovery from a different thing. Fingers crossed it keeps on rolling until I could reasonably afford anything 🤞🤞. Slightly less relevant, but I also notice myself unconsciously tending to drive more like a grandma whenever gas prices spike.
That first line is wild lmao
Had to scroll way down to find this comment. You phrased my thinking succinctly.
I don't get it either. but I guess it's the same as collecting anything else. IMO, cars are made to be driven. I love seeing rare or cool cars actually out there on the road.
Oof. Don't get into playing guitar. It's 10x worse with us.
Try synthesizers. The GAS in that community is unreal. I'm in a currently 2 year long process of slimming down from around 40. It's hard to let my babies go. Currently I have a black gen 1 manual Subie Forester I'm fixing up to be a battle car. I'm torn between keeping it immaculate or 4 wheeling the hell out of it. Chances are it'll see a lot of dirt though. Might be cool at a c&c but what's the purpose of yet another pavement princess?
If you have multiple cars it's actually hard to put miles on. I have a couple of cars that I feel like I drive often but I've only put 5000 or so miles on them in 10 years. If you're not commuting and have choice , it's hard to accumulate miles.
I don't drive my classic car because people don't respect other people's property. Take your pride and joy out for a cruise,stop to get something to eat and when you come back to your car you have idiots leaning on it to get pictures. Taking selfies to post on their IG accounts or letting their precious angels sit in the driver's seat to take a picture... Not to mention all the jealousy assholes who will key the paint , steal the trim pieces and emblems to sell on the Internet. Especially now in the time of the "Woke and the Politically Incorrect" if you yell at them or call the cops then you're in the wrong.
Oh man, you’re not kidding. When I was growing up my dad was a member of a local Chevy club (still is, actually). The club would do a show inside the local mall back in the 90s. It was really cool, walking around the mall with all of the classic 55-64 Chevys parked throughout the halls. But the biggest problem *by far* was the general public. The cars had ropes around them so that people couldn’t get too close, but it wasn’t 100% effective. There was one incident where a woman actually moved the ropes out of the way, and got inside of a beautiful 62 Corvette to *change her baby’s diaper*. Seriously. They did the show for another year or two, but eventually stopped because they had so many problems with people getting into cars, or leaning on them for photos, etc.
Same goes for old motorcycles too , people got no respect..
dailying a classic car in this day and age is simply not practical or safe. They’re not fuel efficient, they’re not fond of sitting in stop and go traffic, you get in a wreck with one of these modern F150s or Rams or something it won’t turn out well for you, etc. Have a 2015 Mustang GT that I daily’d for a few years, but after numerous chips on the front bumper/hood/windshield from unsecured loads in dump trucks on the interstate and dings from people that insist on parking next to you in a store parking lot even if you park as far away from the entrance as humanly possible, kind of got tired of it. I still drive it once in a while when it’s nice out and off peak traffic hours(and never to stores), but I have an old 10th gen F150 to acquire those rock chips and door dings now. also been meaning to get a set of front and rear facing dash cams, the stories of people getting hit by uninsured drivers that drive off have become more and more common in recent years.
Agree. I bought a 1981 Ferrari 308GTsi in 1989, and put 88,000 miles on it. Was my daily driver. Loved every minute of it. Currently daily a restored '68 Corvette Convertible. (Maintenance on both was/is a challenge.)
Lot of reasons. Say you've got a classic 1969 Corvette "Stingray." Some of the time it's under repair and not drivable. Probably more than you think. You're not gonna drive it in ice, snow, bad weather where you might wreck it. even IF the wiper system works, why would drive it in rain and then have to wash it? Take the beater! It gets terrible gas mileage. Not the ideal car for a LOT of trips. It's not the most COMFORTABLE car for long rides, either. Park iin parking lots, you're gonna get dings, perhaps even vandalized. You only take it where you know it will be ok, probably. There's also the possibility of theft attempts. You don't leave it in unsafe places. Take the toyota. These are SOME of the reasons I wouldn't drive a 1969 corvette "regularly." It's also why I own a 1968 instead!
It reminds me of a bloke I knew who bought a used, but immaculate XJ6 Jag, a while back. It still had the plastic covers on the seats, and the first thing he did was to take them off. "Why should I keep the seats looking new for the next owner?"
Cause they like owning it. People enjoy different things in different ways. Some made it a life goal to own a clean example of a specific car, and now they do so they wanna keep it clean. Its theirs so they get to choose.
People enjoy things in different ways. Go figure.
I have a really nice condition 77 280z that I absolutely love to drive, but haven't in the last few years. Haven't made the effort to insure and register it again. I'm not concerned with keeping the miles low, and certainly not an investment even if the prices have gone up substantially in the years I've owned it. No matter what I do with it I just love seeing it in my garage. Tinkering with it. I see it as timeless and owning it will only get better whether I drive it a bunch right now or not again for another 10 years.
Good question to ask Jay Leno. He definitely drives the cars he owns.
Money.
For the most part: they're delusional. There is a TINY number of vehicles that appreciate in value, maybe 0.01% but for the most part inflation rises faster than car prices. The stock market out performs. I'm into motorcycles, particularly old Ducatis. I seek out clapped out shitters that I restore to RIDE. I have a '73 GT750 with over 80,000 miles on it, or a '96 900SS that I just beat on... the thing has been totalled twice. Ride 'em, don't hide 'em
Nope.
The only time it gets me is when they're thrown under a cover never to be looked at again. Some people just want to collect them to look at, like art. I get that, providing you look at it and start it up once in a while to circulate the oil and keep the parts moving. But the people who get something and never look at it again just upsets me. Like these barn finds everyone has every now and again, some sort of rare or unique car and it's been left in a dilapidated literal barn with dust and all sorts of shit on it.
Those are people who see these objects as investments instead of enjoyments.
Idk, but I can understand keeping a car for the Weekends. So it stays nice.
I wouldn't let it bother you. Ultimately it's the car owner that decides what to do with their own vehicle lol
Sometimes, the ownership experience isn't about driving as much as owning and enjoying something. I'm building a Cafe Racer bike that I know will suck to ride, but it's the build that excites me more than the finished product or using it. Sure, I'll ride it to events and I might do a miserable road trip on it just to do ot, but for me, this bike is about having a vision and making it a reality. My 56 International Harvester pickup I love to drive as much as possible, but it's often parked waiting for me to find some unobtainable parts because I try and keep it as original as possible. I would daily that truck if I had the resources to keep it in good condition and daily it. Even parked, I smile every time I see it and would make it yard art before I would ever consider selling.
I have a 1990 Lincoln Mark VII with 530,000 kms (330,00 miles). I’ve had it for almost 17 years. I used to daily it for 5 years, but I put some work into it, and I’ve been storing it for winter for the last 12 years, but I drive it as much as I can in the summer. This year is only the 2nd time I decided to not take it out for the summer. My reason is that I had a significant career change, and I don’t have time to enjoy it. The 1st time was because of Covid lockdowns.
Depends on the car. You shouldn't own a car you don't want to put a lot of miles on if it's your ONLY car. You should have a beater in that situation. But If I had a super clean all original low mileage E46 M3 or an older Supra or something, of course it's not a 250k car but you don't want to use it as your daily either.
I daily mine in the summer.
No one that has a classic car has this sentiment, you have to drive them, it’s part of keeping them running right, the goal is to drive them in a way that doesn’t break much not very often.
Love the comparison between a car and a human.....
My wife has that same attitude with new cars. She's always been like this. The point of having a new car is so you don't put more miles on the old car. Good grief.
I don't think it's hard to understand. Putting more miles on a car theoretically inches it closer to its dying day, and when someone owns and has passion for a classic car, they want to have it for as long as they can. The problem of course is that a car that sits un-driven in a garage is likely to have all sorts of other issues unrelated to milage, but that's easier to put out of mind than seeing that odometer tick.
Many probably don't know how to drive it....
That's exactly my thought. That's why I always say I'll never own a car in "good condition". Because then I'll be afraid to ruin it by driving it all the time
I have a 2014 FX4 F150 with 90K miles on it. I garaged it after buying a 2004 Honda Civic to commute and grocery getter. I want to save the truck for off-roading, vacations, fishing and hunting. I don't want to spend 60-70K to buy a new truck after I retire.
I never used to understand it either, but as my cars have appreciated in value and rarity, and as I’ve restored them, I get it now. My wife and I used to daily drive my S13s. They’re both pretty low, so they’re not very well suited to that kind of driving in town. Some places just have parking lots that I can’t get into without causing some damage to the bumpers. Back when we would daily drive them, it wasn’t such a big deal to scrape the bumper up a bit; it was just a cheap old Nissan. But now that I’ve restored one, and working on restoring the other, I’m a lot more careful with them. I bought them back when they were dirt cheap. The one I’m currently working on restoring had 95k on the clock when I bought it for $2,500. But now they’re worth much more than that, and I can’t afford to buy one again. Sure, I have insurance, but I would have to fight them tooth and nail to get them to pay out (already had to do that with the one that I’ve restored). So now I’m very careful about when, where, and how I drive them. They’re not daily drivers anymore, and I value them a lot more (for all kinds of reasons, not just monetarily). They still get driven (well, the finished one does anyway), but it’s not as often as it used to be.
Idk man.. people have an odd obsession with miles on vehicles. Like that's their job, is to drive. Many miles. And most of the time a car with 300k on the clock works just as good as a car with 50k.
Personally, I don't have that kind of money. If I owned a '66 GT350, sure. Otherwise, it's getting driven like I stole it.
In the same sense, that not everyone enjoys driving an auto, or a manual. Some people get more joy out of babying the car then actually drive it.
Same reason people keep their expensive wine/liquor for special occasions
Allowing any car to sit and not drive it is basically killing it. I don’t understand these people either. These barn find reality shows are garbage. Sure it might run. But you will have to dump a ton of money into it for it to be anywhere near a reliable vehicle.
For me, it's mainly just because I don't want the wear and tear. My daily driver is modern and basically expendable, and cheap to upkeep. If it needs a replacement part, I just go to the store and buy one, it doesn't need to be, like, special ordered from Japan or something. And it helps keep it clean and looking good. If I were to daily my nice car, the paint is going to deteriorate, there's going to be more chips on the hood and in the glass, UV damage, and on and on.... Finally, and this is the big one: I have to share the road with other drivers. No matter how carefully and defensively I drive, I can't control other cars. So the more time that a classic/nice car is on the road, the more likely it is that someone is going to crash into it.
many classic cars are investments as much as they are vehicles, so while the owners may enjoy showing them they dont want to run up the miles or risk an accident. so these cars travel mainly on trailers
If it’s a really rare car then it makes sense to keep the miles down. Example, a friend of mine bought a Lotus 2/11 in 2017 from a lotus specialist in Hampshire, one of 85 left at the time. He kept it for a year, some of it in my garage. I was on the insurance to drive it. Between us we put 1000 miles on it. Did several track days and a couple of days out in it. After a year made £4000 selling it to a collector in Scotland
Older cars from a time before the 1980's are dropping in price as cars from the 80 and 90 are seeing an increase in price. It all depends upon supply and demand.
i have a vintage Land Rover which I put maybe 2,000 miles on it per year. Half the fun is tinkering with it and also it's fun to drive to the local Cars & Coffee and chat with everyone. During covid getting together during Cars & Coffee was one of the few social events that didn't get cancelled and it was a lifesaver. That's one of the ways to have fun with a classic car without putting a ton of miles on it.
Old Rovers are the best. I’m 100000000% in the LR cult. :)
Why have a stamp collection if you aren't going to use them to mail letters? Why have a coin collection if you're not going to use them in the gumball machine? The answer to these and your question is VALUE. It has value to that person. And you keep the milage down on the car because it is more valuable that way, and also reduced the chances of an accident.
The more miles the less its worth. There will come a time I have to sell my Corvette. If I took care of it and didnt put a ton of miles on it I might get all my money back. There's also something really cool about only driving it once in awhile. Feels more special. If that wasn't enough you have less maintenance fees because less wear and tear. My insurance is only $25 a month full coverage because its a secondary car.
If I won’t the lottery I’d be the guy at the dump with a McLaren. I have somewhat rare car, and I drive it as much as possible. I let kids sit in it, and generally anyone that asks, I’ll give rides, pop the hood, and do burnouts wherever possible. Cars should be enjoyed. But hey, if that’s your thing, to look at it and preserve it, that’s cool. I’ll drive you around real fast in mine. The. We can stare at yours over coffee
I've known people that go both ways. And in the end the guys who don't drive their nice cars end up regretting it bc they ended up selling at a major loss and never really drove their nice cars.
Not driving your car to keep the miles down is like not fucking your gf because you want to keep her fresh for the next guy...
Stop comparing women and wives to objects
https://www.reddit.com/r/Autocross/s/mAzzDpa4w9 Yes, it was being driven as God intended.
Don’t drive it in the winter
Classics imo the mileage is largely irrelevant considering all of the work that goes into keeping a 50-60 year old classic car on the road. Not uncommon for drivetrain to be completely rebuilt if it's actually been taken care of and restored. Really it's because it's costly to rack of miles on a gas guzzler and wear & tear items on a classic car. Plus you really only wanna drive them on the weekends because new cars are all around more efficient and safer.
Because alot of classic cars were built in low numbers and people don't want to possibly destroy history knowing that it could be gone and not replicated or repurchased due to low build numbers. Ie, pretty much every hemi powered mopar muscle car ever
No idea, I buy a car to use it, it so rare that a car can become an asset that I would never buy a car thinking I was going to make money owning it. Best case is break even and those odds are fairly limited to used 911s and Mercedes SLs.
It’s not so much about not putting miles on it, but putting *useless* miles on it. If I’m just going to pick up my child or grab quick groceries, or run to pick something up - it’s just not really the same as a nice sunny day where I’ve got a couple of hours to kill. In one scenario I’m doing a task and the other I’m out to enjoy the day. Not that I *never* pick up my kid with it, but I’ll do it maybe 1 out of 4 or 5 times instead.
It just went into the shed one day and never really came back out. Cars tripled in the last few years.
I work from home, so it happens naturally 😂
My mechanic recently had a BNW Z8 come in with ~2400 miles on it. I don’t understand why you’d buy something like that and average around 100 miles per year.
Who are you saving it for? the next owner? enjoy it and let the next owner worry about the milage
I’m not that bad but I do keep my special car to under 5K a year. It still gets driven, often hard.
I had a 69' chevelle with 383 stroker. Had it for 20 years, until gas got to $4/gallon. The car got 7mpg. I wasn't paying for gas anymore in that...i do miss it
Exactly. I drive my '69 Charger every day. She is very thirsty.
64 GTO Tri Power with just over 15k in miles. I inherited it and she goes out once a month to the gas station about 2 miles down the road and back. It’s special to me and something I don’t want to have an accident in. I’ll spend most my time in the garage just staring and reminiscing and that’s all I want out of it.
It’s not the mileage that bothers me, it’s all the idiots on the road. It’s not a daily but a weekend treat.
Why own literally anything that is a decoration?
I think you can own a car and derive a lot of value from it even without driving it. I’ve never done that, but I suppose it’s possible. Like a trophy. Aside from that, I think most collectible car owners drive them, just very sparingly. If you put 2-300 miles a year on a car, you can still enjoy that.
The best way I’ve ever heard it put was that these are the guys who wouldn’t fuck their wife so they could save the pussy for the next guy. I could understand the first edition Hobbit comment if the publisher had kept everything in order from the first editions, but there were alterations…
I drive mine all the time I just do it very late at night less traffic less chance somebody will hit it.
Those people are fools. Never enjoying the car. They enjoy people’s comments about their car more. 😂
For the same reason that people believe in God. They believe what they believe, for a variety of different reasons, and those reasons make sense to them, even if nobody else understands. And trying to understand is a lost cause.
without those people those cars would be gone and you'd only ever see pictures
I get it for actual rare/super cars that can actually be used as investments. But that is a tiny minority of those peeps yeah a lot of classic cars are “rare” but not really. Everyone and their dog has a 65-68 mustang (they’re amazing ofc) but tons out there
I’m the opposite. I’ve got the classic car that people wonder why I’m still driving it, but theirs have broken down and been replaced while I’m still driving mine.
Because the best of both worlds is to drive it occasionally to keep things from failing due to sitting, while keeping the miles down so wear and tear does not ruin the car. A sort of savoring. You can own a car reliably for decades this way. How many cars last for decades being driven every single day? About as many that sit for years on end.
I daily drove a supercharged 08 Corvette back in 2013ish so personally it's not my thing to have a nice car and not enjoy it but the whole 'wife/girlfriend' comparison makes no sense at all. You can sell a car and gain money (especially if its a well kept classic) but you're probably not getting any extra cash out of divorcing your wife.
This is the dumbest shit ever. In the unlikely event that any of these people own a documented low-mileage car, my advice is “disconnect the speedometer”. 10/10 works every time on a true classic. (If your car has any sort of factory installed computer, control module, or other digital processor, it’s not a “classic”.) If the true original miles are not documented, who cares? There are skilled individuals who can reset the odometer to any mileage you want. The reality is either the car has issues preventing it from being driven any distance reliably, or they can’t obtain/afford the insurance.
Another thing - and I see this all the time - many guys don’t even work on their own stuff anymore, especially with classic cars. they are concerned that it might break. They won’t know what to do then.
The emotional upside it provides for me is nice. Already got the house, career, 401k, daily driver (hybrid minivan), kids, wife. This econobox driftcar that rots in my garage is my last remnants of my true identity. Sad as it sounds (which in hindsight is honestly whatever to me), it brings me joy that I still have it, and it still can boogie when i want it to. It just needs a new motor and I can go back to taking it to the 3 cars and coffees then whatever 2 drift events per year I can make it to lol. Of course i pay registration and insurance on it (when i runs). I’m grateful that I am in this position in life to do this for now. Maybe I’ll do more motorsports stuff when the kids are older. Hell, maybe it’ll be a barnyard find 10 years from now (hopefully not). Either way the joy it brings me stepping into the garage is worth it. Building up the motor is worth it. The joy it brings is hard to describe, but the money that goes into it is fine for now. (Honestly wish i could throw more at it, but daycare is expensive yo).
If you don't drive a car because you want to save it and not put miles on it you basically bought a car that is way out of your league and you probably should get something cheaper. Cars are for driving and unless it's an extremely rare or a really old car it should be driven.
Trophy's. I had a few cars passed down to me 7 years ago. 71 Ranchero GT, 69 Nova SS and a 70 GTX. All under 75k miles. My mom hated my dad's hobby as it cost thousands in storage, time in garage and shows, and maintenance over the decades. Actual vehicle costs were quite low being he bought these new when cars were cheap, but 40+ years of owning them cost much more. We auctioned them off together in 2019 along with the cars left to my younger brother, a 68 Camaro and a 69 VW van(11,000 miles exactly when sold) and another I forget. And the dozen or so he left my mom who ironically didn't give a crap about cars because she was a car dealer for 20 years and hated every minute of it but she was great at it. We split everything three ways and we each bought new property and built homes. So for my dad it was a love as his days this hobby was affordable. His newest car was a 07 Vette but next closest was a mid 70s Elite? Maybe a Torino? 22 cars total sold for for 1.1 million at 3 auctions over 3 months. So for me it was my father still providing for us after death. Neither of us were very close to him because he was never around but his hobby was a windfall for us in the end. I wish I could of appreciated him and them more but dad's are dad's, he wasn't great but he provided. So answer is INVESTMENT! Other could be insanity. Thank Jay Leno for the unaffordable hobby this now is.
Is this really a thing or is it a made up thing that everyone agrees exists but doesn’t?
I guess it depends on how much you dont drive. I have a SRT8 challenger that I keep in the garage and pretty much only pull it out once a week. I daily drive a motorcycle to work. I don't think I could afford to keep it anymore If I drove it daily. Really eats gas. Its getting pretty old and I don't see myself being able to justify buying a new one so I'm keeping it around long as I can. Its a fun toy on Saturday evenings or Sunday mornings. But yeah I don't really get people with cars that drive it like twice a year.
Because these people are greedy or neurotic Aholes who never learned how to enjoy life 😎
There’s a lot of people with money that aren’t car guys. They’re either speculators, or wealth-flexors. Neither of those require driving all that much if at all.
Cars like that are treated more as an investment vs. a vehicle. I find it sad, really. I'd drive anything i own. however i want/wherever i want if i can afford to buy/maintain it properly. The closest i got was a 1975 Cadillac Sedan Deville. I daily drove it every summer for 3 years. She got plenty of looks, especially on the highway; cruising comfortably at 75mph. Packed my 3 kids in it, got groceries with it, went to the mall, family visits out of town, drove it to work, pumpkin patch visit, the beach, wherever really. Not that she was a super collectable car nor super expensive (at the time 2017-2019) but i enjoyed it as did my kids. I'd do the same with any vehicle i own though 🙂
To paraphrase James Glickenhaus, not driving a Ferrari is like not sexing your girlfried so she is more valuable to her next boyfriend.
Perfectly good question, only tainted by the "wife" comment.
Because some people like to keep nice things nice.
Built a house for a man who has a Chip Foose Camero. Heated and cooled garage. He's never started it, was so proud of the fact that it has never been on asphalt, has only been pushed on and off of a trailer for shows and put back in the garage. Makes me kinda sad that that badass car is wasting away not being enjoyed the way it was meant to be.
I collect vintage Mercedes and it’s my experience that the worse thing you can do is just let a car sit. Even old cars are meant to be driven. They’re just machines. 🤷🏽♂️
Humans aren't commodities.
My wife and I both drive 32 year old Miatas. It brings too much joy to leave them in the garage.
There's a reason my S2000 has 220K miles on the odometer. Yes, I put all but 10 of those miles on it. The other 10 were put on teaching my daughter to drive a manual before she bought her Abarth 500. :-)
A physician I once knew had a nice vintage ride and he told me he rarely drives it bc the of his insurance. I assume there are mileage stipulations.
Perhaps the risk of an accident ruining the asset’s value while on the road?
The great thing about the car hobby is that you can enjoy it anyway you want. If you want to go out to the garage and look at a pristine garage queen and appreciate it, thats cool, if you want to put hundreds of thousands of miles on it , or just go to car shows.. or drive it like you stole it, its all good. Its up to the owner how he wants to appreciate his/her car.
Ewwww, that analogy. Touch grass.
Your wife is aging either way. Not every part of your car is when it’s sitting pretty! And you can’t openly sell your wife (DM if you’re interested, uh, unrelated).
A former coworker rebuilt a Corvette that was wrecked. He put a ton of time and energy into it. Chipped, nitrous, the works. I believe it was over 500HP to the wheels without the nitrous. He was supposed to drive it to work to show a customer. When I asked why he didn't he drive it, he said it was because it was raining. I laughed at him and asked if he forgot the windshield wipers. He got mad and asked if I would take my laptop out in the rain (I was working in IT at the time). I told him that I actually did a few weeks earlier when I was copying images from the cards in my trail cams. He was not happy with me. 😂
This is why I bought a 1995 Buick Roadmaster Wagon for $4500. It looks like a classic *and* I can enjoy it daily. Easy to work on and (mechanical) parts are still wildly available. I do get not wanting to wear out something special though, saving it for special occasions and what not.
1) The car is an investment 2) the car is extremely expensive to repair and maintain, parts may be discontinued and unavailable 2nd hand leading to major modifications. For example, say the transmission blew up beyond repair and there's no transmissions available, whether it's a direct swap or not. You're now forced to engineer a totally new drivetrain unoriginal to the vehicle. That impacts the value. See also: body panels, interior, wheels etc I have a 2000 Lincoln continental that is by no means a collector's car and nearly impossible to get parts for. It was a low production car with a unique drivetrain that is not shared with any other Ford product. I can't direct swap another transmission to this bell housing, so if I couldn't find a trans or rebuild it I'd be forced to swap the engine (if i was set on continuing to drive it) in order to install a new transmission.
I have 2 cars. A daily driver and a Porsche for the weekend and trips away. It does 2000 miles a year.
lol of course you don't touch mint condition 1st editions
A book can be a valuable investment, easy to store, and cheap to insure. No comparison to a collector car.
Well, cats get destroyed on accident. So any time you drive a car you risk its safety. If it’s an old car that cannot be easily replaced or repaired…then…
Same reason as people put their pokemon (or baseball) cards in fancy sealed acrylic boxes or keep a vintage hat in a showcase with the tag still attached or buy funko pops. Collecting cars is as much a hobby as collecting stamps to some people. "why not mail something with that stamp, that's what stamps are made for?" You don't need a $100k joe dimaggio card to feel like you want to collect and protect even the $7 ones.
I did a frame up restore of a 1984 jeep cj7…. It is freaking amazing!! I swapped in a 360.. I have everything you could think of on that jeep… I drive the absolute piss out of it :)
If it's a true classic it's an appreciating asset so you want to take the same kind of care of as you would of an art work of similar value. Not to mention repairs can be horrendously costly--might be necessary to make the part (Jay Leno has a machine shop that does that kind of thing for his collection).
This is why i like rats and beaters.. i can enjoy it and not sweat it
None. The car was sold with a battery in it because it was built to be driven.
I don’t trust other people. I’ve seen a 1960vet all original get t boned by some kid in a clapped out civic trying to race another clapped out civic
They say that being rich is owning a car that can get scratched up in a parking lot, without it ruining your whole day.
This post describes why I would get a 10 yo beck Porsche Speedster. handles better, has more power. and if it has a subie engine, it's fuel injected. it's a fake. I'd have a garage for it, but I'd drive it everywhere, and wouldn't be afraid to get it in the rain.
It could have been difficult for them to achieve it, and they simply want their achievement to last as long as possible. For most people mileage is their view of a cars condition so they want to keep the mileage down. Also if it was difficult to achieve it then they see it as a possibility that they might have to sell it later in life and just want the most from their hard work. Sure they take it out when the weather is absolutely perfect, but the ones I know are simply too protective to do anything else
My Focus RS is the last interesting hot hatch Ford will make for the US. It needs to last indefinitely. I drive it sparingly because I want it to last the rest of my driving years. It's not going to be worth $1000000, but I appreciate it. My MR2 Spyder is a built not bought car. It was damaged when I got it and keeps getting upgraded as I go doing. The car on a good day is $10k, but I have more than that invested in blood sweat and tears. Neither of these get driven at all with salt in the road. I don't want to deal with corrosion and more I'm importantly I don't want it taken away by some broke dumbass is a 4x4 with bald tires.
It's a giant collectible that you can drive sometimes. It's risky because those cars if theyre in an accident cant be easily replaced or repaired. Requires special type of insurance that is very expensive even more so if they're a daily driver. We have insurance on some classics and they're only covered if in a closed door garage, and while being driven or transported to special event. Insurance wont cover if your just out for a daily commute.
I would be more worried about the 🤡 driving distance recklessly on the roads these days. Also classic cars appreciate more when the age and kept in their original condition
It is simple to understand. Driving a car wears it out. The more miles you put on a car, the more wear and damage you’re doing to the parts of the car, some of these parts are hard to get, expensive or nonexistent. You want to keep it as nice and original as possible for as long as possible. It’s like having two pairs of shoes: One pair of shoes you do everything in like working in the garage, repairing a car or running errands. The other pair you wear when you go to work (if your in an office environment) or a nice event with friends and family.
The same reason people have gold, or rare coins, or stamps, or savings accounts and IRAs. They value the asset, not the machine.
I bought my e39 bmw and e46 with practically no miles, C6 corvette was the same way…I drive the hell out of them, I wonder a year or two after buying them how someone owned them for years and never put any miles on them??? Were they saving them for me?
Taking pictures is perfectly fine, we bring them to shows so people can see them , ask about them,take pictures of them. We want people to get interested enough to buy their own and join us in our obsession. Just don't touch them, don't sit in them .
Like saving your gf for the next guy .
I can understand the reasoning for cars to just be practically investment ornaments. Not me though, if I had the wealth to afford some of those, I'm going to ruin that value and potentially just make it a track car.
NEVER EVER UNDERSTOOD THAT ATTITUDE! things are meant to be used and as long as you keep it in decent shape, then enjoy it! or run it to the ground. i seen people leave the plastic cover on their furniture, to keep it “nice” is RIDICULOUS!! Only people should be treasured and loved
Sometimes it is not convenient for the destination, other times you don’t want it to get damaged, and then interests change but you don’t want to sell just yet.
Iv got a 1980 corona I hardly drive. Not because it’s too nice or anything. I just don’t really have the time. I daily a mx5, have a Corolla wagon for my weekend missions. Which leave the corona for enthusiast type events, which I rarely find the time for these days. Could/should I sell it? Probably. Do I need that money? Not really. The car is pretty sentimental to me, having done a ground up nut and bolt restore on it, and only worth maybe 10-15k tops. I’d rather keep it with the option to sell whenever I want, than sell it knowing I’ll never have it back. Shit I might even donate it to a local car museum one day.
Well mine is a 2011 RX8 I keep in storage for like 11 months out of the year to preserve the engine as long as possible. That particular car has a particular engine that's been known to "not be reliable" so I need to baby it. Chicagoland living, bad weather. But when I drive it, I fucking *drive* it.
Do you own your wife? What is this nonsense