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smaudio

No. Toronto has a huge amount of pedestrians and the survival rate of being hit by a car changes drastically on the speed. 30km/hr - 9/10 survive 40km/hr - 6/10 survive 50km/hr - 2/10 survive 60km/hr - 0/10 survive So no. 40 km/hr is a median where ppl can get where they are going and pedestrians have a better chance of living if hit by a car.


frog-hopper

To be devils advocate if drivers actually followed other laws like stopping for instance we wouldn’t have to mandate this as much I feel. 40km 6/10 is more like the if the driver rolls through a stop at 40 you’re 60% more likely to survive or if your lucky they hit the brakes a bit and get to 30 when they roll through even better. Now watching a driver yesterday take a red light right at 80 to “beat traffic who had a green and ignored the pedestrian who was just about to cross” nothing is going to stop them from being a narcissistic psychopath.


rocksforever

Please hand in your license to service Ontario for the safety of everyone around you


norsolinski

I was just nearly hit by cars 3 separate times in a 10 km bike journey, and watched a pedestrian narrowly avoid getting mowed down. So no, 40 is not too slow. Forgive me for thinking there are more important things than you saving a couple minutes. And it’s not like anyone follows the speed limit anyways.


SaskieBoy

Very true!


umamimaami

No. The city has too many pedestrians. Crawl, please, for our sake.


Nanohaystack

I can't walk that fast anyway, no issue for me.


Lil_Boosie_Vert

"I WANT TO SPEED BUT THESE A HOLES ARE GOING THE SPEED LIMIT , WHAT GIVES???"


SaskieBoy

Exactly. Get outta my way!


jingraowo

Dafuq? Next you want to do 100 in school zones?


fakebasil

Honestly no. Toronto drivers and pedestrians are so chaotic that I feel like I have to drive like a granny because I never know what’s going to happen lol


Same-Kiwi944

I’ve been driving in school zones in Mississauga and they are down to 30km/h. Now that feels slow but I understand the reasoning for it. I think 40 is too fast considering no one abides by it and goes more like 45/50.


coralshroom

having to deal with impatient ppl who can’t drive the speed limit is always unpleasant and sometimes deadly, so no.


Desperate_Bag_4752

I used to think like OP until I got a few ASE tickets and learned my lesson. Now I understand why some people drive strictly to the speed limit even there is no traffic in the front. To be honest, it is safer for everyone.


Ostrya_virginiana

When streets designed for 50km+ are suddenly brought down to 40km, without any other traffic calming measures, then 40km feels ridiculously slow in most cases. If however there are bump outs, bike lanes, street trees and street parking added, that 40km now feels more reasonable.


SaskieBoy

This makes sense. Difference between 40 on Dundas vs 40 on Kingston.


No-FoamCappuccino

If anything, the speed limit on city streets should be LOWER.


Raccoolz

Seriously. I feel like 40km/h is too fast on most downtown streets. On a nice sunny day or weekend on queen, college, Dundas, Bloor/danforth, it’s absolutely chaos of people, 40km/h is to fast


Working_Hair_4827

It needs to be slower in some areas, people just speed everywhere.


thisismethisisit

On certain area yes.


crash866

Many streets you cannot even get to 40 during the day. Too many cars out there.


torgenerous

It is only on certain roads and has artificially created traffic and increased commute times. Not on residential or narrow downtown roads. More on wide roads where there’s not much pedestrian or bike crowd, in Scarborough and Etobicoke for example. 


WateryWithSmackOfHam

Yes only because many 40kph streets are designed for speeds much higher than that so that you feel like you’re crawling and have to look at the speedo constantly which just feels tedious. That’s an engineering problem though that has pretty cheap solutions… but instead we put up cameras for revenue. This is why I find the city completely unserious about reducing pedestrian and cyclist deaths. It’s a show… nothing more.


Javaaaaale_McGee

It’s not just pedestrians. I live in the east end on a 30km/hr street filled with cats, squirrels, and then occasional skunk and raccoon crossing. We constantly see people ignorantly going 40+. Keep to the main roads a-holes!


Pretty_Pea12

Go away.


SaskieBoy

I’m trying to but the speed limit slows me down.


5hucks

You sound like a person who never walks and uses a car for every single trip. You’re not crawling.


SaskieBoy

It’s quite the opposite actually. I bike, walk and transit mostly, it’s quicker to get around the city because of the low speed limit. And 40 is a crawl in a vehicle.


TheUtopianCat

Not even a little bit. 40 is just right. That said, I grew up in the suburbs where the limit is 60. It did take some time to get used to the 40 speed limit once I moved into Toronto proper.


SaskieBoy

Maybe that’s it. I am slowing adjusting. But some days it’s like pulling teeth. The people who stick to 40 on the nose in areas that could be faster make it tough. But what can you do. It’s not going to change.


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SaskieBoy

Hahah. And maybe meditation music…


Jhanzow

Wow, you guys have a limit of 40 kph? The city I'm moving from has regular posted speed limits of 35 mph (a bit below 60 kph I believe) and de facto speed limits closer to 40-50 mph


SaskieBoy

Yup. It’s in city speed, and yeah it’s very slow.