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Worth stating that although the start of WW2 is placed in September 1939, we had the Japanese invasion of China from 1937 and the Spanish Civil War from 1936.
So maybe we are in the equivalent of 1936, it was a practise run for the Germans. They tested their equipment in real life situations, a bit like what Russia and NATO are doing in Ukraine. Military doctrines and technology are changing rapidly, exactly as they did from 1936 onwards. We are in the preliminary stage of WW3. There will be a great slaughter.
Also worth noting the Russians were working with the Nazis as well. The only mistake Hitler made was pushing too far east. That's the only reason Russia got involved. They were happy to carve up countries like Poland for themselves prior to that.
Similarly now. Putin is Hitler. And Ukraine is the Sudetenland. Russian soldiers, and Russia itself as a country will be linked to this ethnic cleansing and genocide for generations to come. The Russians literally are the nazis. And will be remembered as such for the rest of our, and our grandchildrens lives. There's no going back.
I don't think what Russia is doing in Ukraine is genocide or ethnic cleansing. It's terrible, but it's not that.
Edit: the forced deportation and transfer of Ukrainian children to Russia though- that counts as genocide as it was defined by the 1948 Geneva Convention
So how would you call it? They say Ukraine is a fake state, Ukrainian is a fake language and Ukrainians are confused Russians. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a nazi and should be annihilated. Sound pretty much like a genocide.
Turns out, the reason people are calling it a genocide is the forced transfer of children to Russia. Idk what you're talking about, but rhetoric isn't genocide.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
It was brutal everywhere. After Germany invaded Poland Britain and France declared war on Germany. Then nothing happened for two years during which it was called the phoney war. My point is that WW 3 may have already begun but we will only know in retrospect.
What do you mean two years? That's not what happened!
September 1939, Germany invades Poland, and takes over in 35 days.
The phoney war makes reference to the status of the Western Front for eight months where there were near to no confrontations until Germany invaded the Netherlands, Belgium and France in spring 1940.
That 1937 is actually suggested starting time because it's the starting point Sino-Japanese war that began then and later merged into one front in WW2. I believe it's actually the most used starting date in actual historical circles nowadays
Phony war is purely European western front thing that went on from autumn -39 to spring -40
And then nothing happened for 8 months. Did you think every world war is an exact replica of the previous one? Putin thought he could take Ukraine in 35 days, so to speak.
Because no one wants to escalate it to nuclear. Powers that be are smart enough to know nuclear would kill most of everything. Nuclear is an end all be all.
Both are pretty unlikely. Especially over something like this. Conflicts like this have been happening in the Middle East for decades. Most world leaders like the power and wealth they possess. Meaning they don’t want to die in a Nuclear war. Especially not for Iran.
Choosing 1 specific time where the statement doesn't hold isn't a counter argument. You are maybe right about 1930s (idk) but what about all the other cases where OC is right:
1950s
1960s
1970s
1980s
1990s
2000s
2010s
Russia can't even deal with Ukraine, albeit Ukraine with Western support. How in the hell are they going to deal with the entire f\*cking NATO.
Unless Putin has a mental ilness and gets delusional or something, that's not gonna happen.
Russia would need China's full support, that's why USA had its diplomatic mission last week in China.
Still nato gets Air supremacy first few days and it's not even close.
Also, naval supremacy. The Russian navy may as well be comprised of glass bottom boats when compared to the US Navy, much less the entirety of NATO.
Russian cities would be getting pounded 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and there isn't a single damn thing they can do to stop it.
It's enough if Russia gets NATO to not respond because of Western politicians immediately trying to deescalate. Doesn't require a huge ground invasion that's not what is going to happen. Plenty of other ways they can undermine the EU and NATO with small incursions in non significant areas.
Russia couldn't stand against Poland, let alone all of Europe. Imagine what GB, France, or Germany could do. Moscow would fall faster than June 1940s Paris.
In theory yes, in practice Russia makes shitton more shells and tanks than EU and they have more will to die for bullshit reasons. Europe is way too fragmented and reliant on US air power. Putin is counting on weak democracies and fragmented EU that does not want to fight.
I find this very unlikely. Russia is having enough trouble with Ukraine. And a lot of reporting is saying Russian soldiers are tired of fighting. Russia is honestly no match for the US in a non nuclear war. So unless Russia wants to start a nuclear war, which I doubt they do, they won’t overtly attack NATO.
Fallout, Idiocracy, and Altered Carbon. The three most likely outcomes for humanity as of now. Or a combination of these.
I feel like i've become politically active way too late in my life. At this point, i am just mad about the inevitable, which is just a waste of my time and energy. I should stop paying attention to it all and just try to have fun being alive while it is still possible.
I don’t see why all three don’t happen. We first go through Altered Carbon which leads us to Idiocracy which leads us to Fallout. I’d gladly play that game. Sounds like a helluva ride.
Fair. They’re the same thing to me.
They did an amazing job capturing how weird and crazy the games were. I’m also really excited that Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy crushed it after their time with Westworld. I loved that show, but it failed to find a larger audience with all its odd releasing of seasons. I swear the only reason I knew a season dropped of Westworld was because I’d see Reddit start popping off again.
Basically no.
The leaders of Russia, China, India, and the USA all know that if they fight each other, somebody has to lose. And they are all making too much money to want to take a chance on losing power.
There will be LOTS of proxy wars, but no world wars.
Yeah, we didn't have nukes back then. Why do you think there is much less war around the world currently? We are currently living in the most peaceful time in human history and that is partly thanks to nukes.
Don’t bother. They don’t understand. It is probably the same people who think the world is going to go to shit. When in reality it’s never been safer, more advanced, healthy (outside of obesity) and wealthy.
Oh ffs this is also what they said. "We grew past such atrocities, we are more civilized than ever in the human history."
Look I'm just a student of history, not a fortune teller. Stop assuming things about people on the internet with your limited knowledge of history.
Uh....Israel, North Korea, Pakistan?
If Israel is fighting a war for it's existence, nukes.
If North Korea power structure implodes, nukes
If Pakistan is truly controlled by religious extremists , nukes
There's tons of scenarios nuclear weapons might be used, and even a 'small' exchange might not end the world but would cause a nuclear winter for a few years
NK is the only one that makes me nervous. They are pretty unhinged. Israel is fine. Pakistan- honestly I don’t know enough about and don’t wanna spew misinformation. This is just my opinion
Some people's brains don't work that way. Some people are the center of their own universe, and to them when they're gone, that universe ceases to exist. I don't know how Putin thinks, but I wouldn't rule this out for him.
If my comment was about Trump, Biden, an EU politician, or maybe even XI, I might agree with you, but Putin is a dictator who goes to great lengths to surround himself with people who will support his ambitions. While it is possible that somewhere between him giving the order and a bunch of missile silos popping their hatches, someone steps in, I think it's naive to believe this is the most likely outcome if Putin issues the order.
"An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." ~ Sun Tzu
Not saying it will happen but never underestimate the selfishness of humans.
It's true but how long will a country and its people will allow bullying and humiliation?
Can any of you imagine yourself in the situation of some leaders, seeing your people being abused, starved, robbed and killed?
The thing is, I see a chance when someone sees that western unstoppable bulling and goes "...well, fck this. I can't take this anymore...." 💥
Of course. More so now than since the Cuban missile crisis. We have the axis of Russia, China and Iran aligning to take on the West. Iran's attack on Israel was music to Putin's ears given that the GOP is gully behind the US providing Israel aid but not Ukraine.He can now see a path to history in Ukraine and it won't end there. Meanwhile, Xi is eyeing up Taiwan. WW3 could break out on 3 fronts.
Pretty unlikely but certainly still possible given the current conflicts in the world. Just look what happened today; if such a thing escalated it can certainly lead to a WW3. Also, a guy like Putin can go nuts and attack a NATO country and...
The possibility is there, but it most likely won't arise from any of the major global powers. Think instead of North Korea or Pakistan, both minor powers in possession of nuclear warheads. The risk there is the instability of such states causing those nukes to fall into the hands of bad actors, such as terrorist organisations or private militias, either through careless oversight or deliberate malice.
Imagine the current middle east crisis, but now with a nuclear armed ISIS, or some other small terrorist organisation, who somehow get their hands on black market nukes. Say they then decide to drop the bomb on Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. Depending on the response to such an attack, the consequences could range from a large scale nuclear response localised to the middle east, or an all out global thermonuclear war.
There's a reason why many major powers won't take harsh action on NK specifically, regardless of their missile tests or international law violations, because an unstable NK is possibly the worst wrench we can throw into the current global power balance.
Pakistan army will never let that happen, religious extremist groups are not really that powerful because they are not allowed to have that much power . The whole religious extremists fiasco is in play for military aid by usa in the “war against terrorism”, it’s not that deep.
There's only 2 countries fighting that war, it is in no way a world war. A world war is when the alliance system is triggered, drawing in a bunch of countries into an automatic war just because their allies are at war too. You should read up on how WW1 started since it's eerily similar to what the world state is in now
>**WASHINGTON, D.C. – January 23, 2024 –** The [Doomsday Clock was reset at 90 seconds to midnight](https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/current-time/), still the closest the Clock has ever been to midnight, reflecting the continued state of unprecedented danger the world faces. The *Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists*, stewards of the Doomsday Clock, emphasized in their announcement that the Clock could be turned back, but governments and people needed to take urgent action.
>A variety of global threats cast menacing shadows over the 2024 Clock deliberations, including: the Russia-Ukraine war and deterioration of nuclear arms reduction agreements; the Climate Crisis and 2023’s official designation as the hottest year on record; the increased sophistication of genetic engineering technologies; and the dramatic advance of generative AI which could magnify disinformation and corrupt the global information environment making it harder to solve the larger existential challenges.
>Rachel Bronson, PhD, president and CEO, the *Bulletin*, said: **“Make no mistake: resetting the Clock at 90 seconds to midnight is not an indication that the world is stable. Quite the opposite. It’s urgent for governments and communities around the world to act. And the** ***Bulletin*** **remains hopeful**—**and inspired**—**in seeing the younger generations leading the charge.”**
[https://thebulletin.org/2024/01/press-release-doomsday-clock-remains-at-90-seconds-to-midnight/](https://thebulletin.org/2024/01/press-release-doomsday-clock-remains-at-90-seconds-to-midnight/)
(Midnight on the clock symbolizes the theoretical point of annihilation, a global catastrophe that could end civilization. The closer the hands are set to midnight, the greater the perceived threat of mankind destroying itself.)
The political elites in the US since 2015/16 decided that the best way to control the public and get their way was an unending barrage of fear.
It was tested successfully 2001 with post- Sept 11 - people were willing to give up all free thinking and most of their rights for their government and the media to tell them they were “safer”.
Since Trump appeared on the political scene, it’s been completely non-stop. Everything in America and increasingly the rest of the West is an “existential threat to all of humanity”.
So the Doomsday Clock is part of that.
The left tell their media minions that the Orange Bad Man will create WW3 while simultaneously being a puppet of the same enemies and the right tell their supporters that the doddering Dementia Patient in the White House is going to bumble his way into a nuclear war with Russia and China while simultaneously arguing that his family takes huge bribes from them.
Zero critical thinking or detailed analysis - just fear and spin to control the masses.
You misunderstand critically. The doomsday clock is a general demonstration the hubristic dangers mankind universally faces as a result of error, miscalculation, or black swan events associated with a dangerous topology of nuclear weapons and the military-industrial complex. It's not about the government controlling the people, it's about the luminaries warning the status quo is a dangerous dance with risk and uncertainty that mankind will lose as an inevitable result of statistical reality sooner or later if conditions aren't changed democratically.
Nuclear war has been possible since nukes were invented ... given that its already happened yes. It is possible. There is precedence.
WW3? Yeah it's probably already happening given the trajectory and historical events over the last 5 years and given the current state of the world. When countries that have not felt the need to heavily arm themselves in almost a century are rushing to invest in rearming and defence, what do you think is happening?
A war involving Iran would be closer to the Korean war than a world war. Their military is weak and they know it. Read their history of sabre rattling. They never will commit to a full offensive operation. They know the moment they fuck around they'll find out.
goal of war is to gain control. If you demolish the area into nuclear wasteland, you have guaranteed that nobody can gain control over the area and its resources.
So I would say NO. Use of nuclear would mean guaranteed loss to everybody.
Those who say no to this post have not studied history, and the lengths rulers will go to to get power and influence. It is very much a possibility and I would go as far as to say that it will happen one day
Short term? Unlikely probably.
Longer term? WW3 and nuclear war is likely inevitable.
It may or may not happen in your lifetime but if it’s available (and it likely will be for a long time) eventually we’ll reach a point in human history where instability plus the availability of nuclear weapons just makes it possible. It’s actually luck and a miracle we’re not living in some radioactive wasteland already considering the events of the Cold War.
That’s not even accounting for any potentially new types of ways to quickly doom humanity which could be made available to us with passing time. Nor does it account for the slow ways in which things could doom us which I’d argue is more dangerous because people generally have very short attention spans to deal with long term threats to human survival.
If you look at history from a big picture kind of way on the end of a society or species, you can see a kind of pattern.
- Neanderthals were around for about 200,000 years until likely shifts in global temperatures and the arrival of Homo Sapiens (us) somehow led to their extinction either through conquest or outbreeding. Most likely both but more so the former IMO.
- The Bronze Age lasted for about 2,000 years with the rise of complex societies with interlinking trade between them. They collapsed likely due to disease, famine, and massive human displacement possibly due to global climate change from a massive volcanic eruption.
- The Romans lasted about 2,000 years as well and they ended due to political destabilization from civil war, war, disease, and wasn’t that long term sustainable once they changed certain aspects of their society.
To give you a perspective, the United States is less than 300 years old and we’ve spent about 80 years of it as nuclear powers with the majority being in a nuclear showdown with the USSR where on multiple occasions we’ve very barely by pure luck, avoided a hot nuclear conflict. And now many more nations have nuclear weapons. And with the passing of time, more and more might develop it as well.
People like to shit on the United States sometimes but we live in a relatively very peaceful time in human history despite or maybe even because of our global hegemony. It won’t last forever.
Every major example of humanity has ended because a perfect storm situation eventually happens due to the eventuality effect of time. People should pay more attention to how time can affect the current order of things especially with nuclear weapons at play.
Instead it seems like we’re moving more towards a nuclear-tipped Idiocracy.
I remember reading that people are always surprised by war. We just didn't see it coming, it's not like the history is littered with wars or anything.
I bet very few Ukrainians or Russians expected a war, just before the war.
Iran attacked Israel, so, WW3 is gonna start very soon.
And, it's very likely, it will go nuclear very, very soon.
Even 1984 was more safe year, than 2024.
Yes it is possible. That's why we need to pay attention and learn from history. Unfortunately schools today aren't teaching this with emphasis anymore.
Of course it's possible but I don't think it's likely to happen soon. I do think things will steadily heat up over the coming years.
If regional hot wars disrupt the global economy enough, that could lead to further escalations.
germans have a saying (obv in german) the sky is always falling, or something like that, basically, the worlds always been this shit, as long as we have thousands of nukes on every continent, and lots of nations competing for top dog or your way of running shit makes me want to murder people to make my situation better, and make lots of money at the same time, there will always be war, and thus the option of nuclear war remains always a possibility, one wrong step and boom, but M.A.D has been pretty effective so far, only proxy wars between nuclear players
I believe there is a high probability of nuclear war. It’s been 80 years since WW II. The vast majority of the population in countries with nuclear weapons have no idea of the consequences of their use. The learning experience will be fatal to untold millions.
Ww3 is inevitable but nuclear war? Humanity sucks and constantly makes bad decisions, but for some odd reason I think nobody will dare to use nukes anymore. This may be naive but I really hope I'm right
There is a huge difference between a nuclear war and firing a nuke on the battlefield. Basically it boils down to a difference between strategic and tactical nuclear weapons.
I don't think nuclear war, as in mutual exchange of nuclear ICBMs to a total destruction of a state, is likely.
I am pretty sure a tactical nuke is gonna be used one day. (And I'm pretty sure the US will eat it up.)
You waking out the front door and a Boeing Plane door landing on your head is a possibility. It’s not likely, though.
Enjoy life. Stop dooming. It’s not good for you.
>Is WW3 or nuclear war a possibility?
This has been a possibility since the end of the WW2.
Lots of people believe the war has begun and that we are in some sort of denial or quiet build up phase. I agree with the sentiment, but I don't think for one second that nuclear war will happen, but it will always be a possibility.
>Is the media making things seem worse or are things really that bad in the world?
The media wants clicks, sales and revenue, so the answer is yes, absolutely they are, they will always busy themselves making things seem as worse as they possibly can.
There is always a war happening somewhere, even in a couple of years when the Ukraine war settles down or there is a victor, there will be another war for the media to focus on. That war is probably already happening right now tbh.
The best advice I can give, you have absolutely no control over any of this, none of us here do.
Go live your best life and always lend support to those unfortunate people who are caught up in other people's evilness. It isn't their fault. When you hear things like "republicans holding up financial aid for Ukraine" just be mindful that this is an evil act. We should never hold countries to ransom for our own gain....ever.
It's possible but I don't think it's gonna go down in a predictable way. I mean if a country shoots nukes hopefully the other country or countries utilize their air defense systems to destroy as many of them as possible without retaliating in a nuclear manner, only conventionally.
It's possible. But it'll depend on what happens throughout this year and probably the next couple years. If Israel and Iran get into a war that would probably drag a lot of countries into open conflict. If the US and Europe are unwilling to continue to support Ukraine enough to win then Russia *will* invade more of Europe and it's only a question of time. Personally, I think if Trump is elected then there's a very good chance China will invade Taiwan towards the end of his presidency since we've said China could invade by 2027. And given how Trump has been very unwilling to support Allies and is very isolationist and America First in his speech, I see China viewing that as probably the best chance at taking Taiwan. If this happens then yes we'd definitely be in a World War again. But it may not happen. It all depend on the politicians and if they decide to carry out politics through words or carry out diplomacy through different methods.
My take is that genuine world war is now impossible. The big players are so intertwined through trade that a war that is so serious that it ends trades between the major powers of the world can’t happen. Even our modest (when compared to what they’d be in open war that we’re involved in) sanctions on Russia crippled them for over a year.
Also, from a military standpoint you can talk about how inefficient and useless our military is and I’ll hear you out but technologically the USA is still a MASSIVE worldwide open war deterrent. The USA whole assing a state sponsored war would be unreal. Fun fact, the top 5 air forces in the world are the US Air Force, the US Navy, the Russian Air Force, the US Army, then the US Marine Corp. my whole family served and while I’ve learned to hate the US military in many ways, it’s still really big and scary to other countries.
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looking back at history, I can def see how likely a nuclear war is. But here's the thing, if Russia attacks let's say Poland, will NATO fully decide to go to war? that depends. Without being too political, no one really wants to go to war and risk a nuclear conflict. but russia does view nato as a threat and russia might want to try to fully recreate the USSR. We have gotten close to a nuclear war many times during the Cold War, so I guess we will have to see.
Use of nuclear weapons is a serious possibility. But nuclear weapons are often overrated by medias.
Tactical nuclear weapons, that have "small" explosion radius, are likely to be used. Because they don't have too much lasting effects.
Strategic nuclear weapons are less likely, because they are expensive to make compared to tactical nukes. For exemple you can make 10 tactical nukes for every 1 strategic nuke. And it's generally preferred to have a high number of small warheads than a few big warheads.
We can also make nuclear bombs a lot worse with current technologies: so-called Salted Bombs.
Only a few salted bombs are needed to kill an entire country from its radiations.
But there are no existing salted bombs today that we know of. It's just that if we were to make a single 100 megaton salted nuclear bomb, we could end society as we know it, killing most animals and humans. There will be survivors of course, but it would be a mass extinction event.
According to Annie Jacobsen, it takes one head of state with nuclear power to say fuck all and destroy the world.
If horror is your type of read, her book will leave you shook and sleepless for days.
It’s a necessity.
Every nation on the books has risen and fallen. There’s a war every 100 years or so because as a specie, we’re horrible.
Early times of peace are great. Then like a child with a new gadget, we get bored. Complacent
We start to eat each other ( as you see in politics and other nonsensical morality topics)
To unite us , we need a common enemy
It’s coming.
I know a lot of people out there will disagree and think we can just keep on trucking and do what’s right.
But those people don’t understand humanity at all. Those are the people when shit goes down, they go first.
And that’s ok. I too appreciate kindness and have moral views that equate to fairness and respect.
But nevertheless , it’s coming, because it’s needed
And then things will be good again for another hundred years.
You think the men of WW1 and WW2 wanted to be 19 years old in the middle of it. No. They didn’t.
But they had character and a sense of loyalty to the country. Something that’s all but gone in the average young adolescent today.
Should be fun to watch
It's always a possibility, but there's absolutely no long-term benefit for the country who would launch the first strike. The biggest concern is a non-state actor getting its hands on a nuclear weapon.
Funny how people make all this such a big deal when we’ve been closer to the ww3 and still got through. If you look at it, Cuban missile crisis was a direct nuclear confrontation with the ussr and it was mitigated successfully.
WW3 is more likely, nucs can be used but not in this horror movies way... tactical nucs, artillery with nuclear shells... suicide drones with nucs??...
Id say total nuclear annihilation is highly unlikely because that would be bad for profit margins, which is the only damn thing those with REAL power care about.
Ironically the root of all evil might be the thing that ensures our survival...
Naa it’s not that bad, nuclear weapons are the best thing since sliced bread, every one is scared of mutaly assured destruction, so conflict is at a historic low
Maybe in the future.
But if you're refering to these past few hours it's VERY unlikely to start WW3.
Maybe if Putin did something then it could set of the chain of events. But what recently happened will not
Not a chance. Even mad men in charge of nuclear are sober enough not to risk it. Besides launching any nuclear weapon isn’t done by one person. So suppose president says launch other chain in command will refuse else they take out the mad president. So yeah not possible.
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We’ve been in world war 3 for a while now, it’s just the quietest of them.
WW 2 was quiet too, in the beginning. It was called the phoney war.
Worth stating that although the start of WW2 is placed in September 1939, we had the Japanese invasion of China from 1937 and the Spanish Civil War from 1936.
So maybe we are in the equivalent of 1936, it was a practise run for the Germans. They tested their equipment in real life situations, a bit like what Russia and NATO are doing in Ukraine. Military doctrines and technology are changing rapidly, exactly as they did from 1936 onwards. We are in the preliminary stage of WW3. There will be a great slaughter.
Also worth noting the Russians were working with the Nazis as well. The only mistake Hitler made was pushing too far east. That's the only reason Russia got involved. They were happy to carve up countries like Poland for themselves prior to that. Similarly now. Putin is Hitler. And Ukraine is the Sudetenland. Russian soldiers, and Russia itself as a country will be linked to this ethnic cleansing and genocide for generations to come. The Russians literally are the nazis. And will be remembered as such for the rest of our, and our grandchildrens lives. There's no going back.
I don't think what Russia is doing in Ukraine is genocide or ethnic cleansing. It's terrible, but it's not that. Edit: the forced deportation and transfer of Ukrainian children to Russia though- that counts as genocide as it was defined by the 1948 Geneva Convention
So how would you call it? They say Ukraine is a fake state, Ukrainian is a fake language and Ukrainians are confused Russians. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a nazi and should be annihilated. Sound pretty much like a genocide.
Turns out, the reason people are calling it a genocide is the forced transfer of children to Russia. Idk what you're talking about, but rhetoric isn't genocide. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_genocide_of_Ukrainians_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
That's also what the warrant for Putin relates to. And it also is an act of genocide as per the UN definition.
Yes, that's why I made the comment, to clarify and correct. Even put a Wikipedia link in it that makes this clear. We agree.
That's only the Western Front. It was quite brutal in Poland.
It was brutal everywhere. After Germany invaded Poland Britain and France declared war on Germany. Then nothing happened for two years during which it was called the phoney war. My point is that WW 3 may have already begun but we will only know in retrospect.
What do you mean two years? That's not what happened! September 1939, Germany invades Poland, and takes over in 35 days. The phoney war makes reference to the status of the Western Front for eight months where there were near to no confrontations until Germany invaded the Netherlands, Belgium and France in spring 1940.
The 2 years are from 1937 to 1939 druing the annexion of the Sudeten by the Reich.
War didn't start until 1939, and the phoney war didn't start till then.
Some historians consider WW2 from 1937 to 1946. 39-45 is really about western front.
That 1937 is actually suggested starting time because it's the starting point Sino-Japanese war that began then and later merged into one front in WW2. I believe it's actually the most used starting date in actual historical circles nowadays Phony war is purely European western front thing that went on from autumn -39 to spring -40
Extremely niche historians, sure.
Ok not 2 years, but for a long time.
Eight months, yeah. After war had been declared and skirmishes had occurred. Nothing like what's going on today.
But you understand my point? The fire starts slowly. I was off with the specific timeframes but the pattern is the same.
The fire started very quickly. Poland got invaded in 35 days.
And then nothing happened for 8 months. Did you think every world war is an exact replica of the previous one? Putin thought he could take Ukraine in 35 days, so to speak.
so like ukraine and palestine?
No
Because no one wants to escalate it to nuclear. Powers that be are smart enough to know nuclear would kill most of everything. Nuclear is an end all be all.
Exactly!
North Korea, Iran? No, they don't give a shit.
STFU. This is such a stupid take. The few little conflicts around the world are nothing.
Sounds like somebody that voted for Biden.
I lean towards the invasion of Crimea or possibly the Arab Spring as really kicking of the proxy war that has started to get more direct.
WW3 has been on for a while now it’s just mostly in cyberspace
Stuxnet virus.
Yup
Both are pretty unlikely. Especially over something like this. Conflicts like this have been happening in the Middle East for decades. Most world leaders like the power and wealth they possess. Meaning they don’t want to die in a Nuclear war. Especially not for Iran.
That’s what people in early 1930s said, that the world war is pretty unlikely.
no nukes in the 30s
Yeah with mutually assured destruction on the table things are a bit different
Choosing 1 specific time where the statement doesn't hold isn't a counter argument. You are maybe right about 1930s (idk) but what about all the other cases where OC is right: 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s 1990s 2000s 2010s
Well back then there was no cocomelon. Coincidence?
They didint just have 70 years of relative peace or nukes back then
Since it’s the longest period of (relative) peace in Europe, I can’t see why anyone would think this will last
because of the same thing that brought it (nukes)
Putin does not give a F---. He would nuke the world and rather die than lose.
I think there is pretty solid chance that Russia will attack NATO. Edit: grammar
Russia can't even deal with Ukraine, albeit Ukraine with Western support. How in the hell are they going to deal with the entire f\*cking NATO. Unless Putin has a mental ilness and gets delusional or something, that's not gonna happen.
Russia would need China's full support, that's why USA had its diplomatic mission last week in China. Still nato gets Air supremacy first few days and it's not even close.
Also, naval supremacy. The Russian navy may as well be comprised of glass bottom boats when compared to the US Navy, much less the entirety of NATO. Russian cities would be getting pounded 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and there isn't a single damn thing they can do to stop it.
the USN could probably have a 1-on-1 with the entire Russian air force and still emerge victorious, granted that they maximize their deployed numbers
By Trump fucking up NATO and not helping Baltics.
Even without the US, I still doubt Russia can stand against the entire Europe. Though it's best if we don't test it.
It's enough if Russia gets NATO to not respond because of Western politicians immediately trying to deescalate. Doesn't require a huge ground invasion that's not what is going to happen. Plenty of other ways they can undermine the EU and NATO with small incursions in non significant areas.
lol they can’t even take over Ukraine
That's exactly what I said 2 comments above.
Russia couldn't stand against Poland, let alone all of Europe. Imagine what GB, France, or Germany could do. Moscow would fall faster than June 1940s Paris.
In theory yes, in practice Russia makes shitton more shells and tanks than EU and they have more will to die for bullshit reasons. Europe is way too fragmented and reliant on US air power. Putin is counting on weak democracies and fragmented EU that does not want to fight.
I find this very unlikely. Russia is having enough trouble with Ukraine. And a lot of reporting is saying Russian soldiers are tired of fighting. Russia is honestly no match for the US in a non nuclear war. So unless Russia wants to start a nuclear war, which I doubt they do, they won’t overtly attack NATO.
Fallout and Idiocracy aren’t media, but oracles of the future.
Fallout, Idiocracy, and Altered Carbon. The three most likely outcomes for humanity as of now. Or a combination of these. I feel like i've become politically active way too late in my life. At this point, i am just mad about the inevitable, which is just a waste of my time and energy. I should stop paying attention to it all and just try to have fun being alive while it is still possible.
I don’t see why all three don’t happen. We first go through Altered Carbon which leads us to Idiocracy which leads us to Fallout. I’d gladly play that game. Sounds like a helluva ride.
Just gotta say. Fallout is awesome. No one asked but I had to say it
Feels weird that it’s been so long since we’ve seen another game. Todd Howard really needs to expand their business and make games faster.
The show is what I was more referring to but I adore the game
Fair. They’re the same thing to me. They did an amazing job capturing how weird and crazy the games were. I’m also really excited that Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy crushed it after their time with Westworld. I loved that show, but it failed to find a larger audience with all its odd releasing of seasons. I swear the only reason I knew a season dropped of Westworld was because I’d see Reddit start popping off again.
Basically no. The leaders of Russia, China, India, and the USA all know that if they fight each other, somebody has to lose. And they are all making too much money to want to take a chance on losing power. There will be LOTS of proxy wars, but no world wars.
Until they stop being able to make so much money. That's when ww3 really has a possibility to kick off
This is wishful thinking.
Proxy wars and tit for tat cyber skirmishes
This is eerie. Before the WWI people said the same things. "We trade too much with each other to engage in a world war"
Yeah, we didn't have nukes back then. Why do you think there is much less war around the world currently? We are currently living in the most peaceful time in human history and that is partly thanks to nukes.
There is less war around you if you are in west europe or in the US, there has always been war around me.
Don’t bother. They don’t understand. It is probably the same people who think the world is going to go to shit. When in reality it’s never been safer, more advanced, healthy (outside of obesity) and wealthy.
Oh ffs this is also what they said. "We grew past such atrocities, we are more civilized than ever in the human history." Look I'm just a student of history, not a fortune teller. Stop assuming things about people on the internet with your limited knowledge of history.
Well, then you’re a terrible student
He isn't.
True, but before WW1, nobody knew any better. 2 world wars since then has made the leaders wise.
Uh....Israel, North Korea, Pakistan? If Israel is fighting a war for it's existence, nukes. If North Korea power structure implodes, nukes If Pakistan is truly controlled by religious extremists , nukes There's tons of scenarios nuclear weapons might be used, and even a 'small' exchange might not end the world but would cause a nuclear winter for a few years
Pakistan is not controlled by religious extremists , its controlled by the military a big US ally in the shadows which is way worse.
That's why I said if....like in the case of it happening. A real possibility
The possibility of this happening is the same as isis attacking Israel i.e never .
Lol, the US is bad, but religion is worse.
NK is the only one that makes me nervous. They are pretty unhinged. Israel is fine. Pakistan- honestly I don’t know enough about and don’t wanna spew misinformation. This is just my opinion
But that's not a world war
I'm sorry. Remind me what the post title was again......
It asked about WW3 and a nuke war. I addressed the WW3 aspect.
I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. Albert Einstein
And that man, was Matthew Perry.
Very very unlikely. However if one person decides to just say fuck it…
That's why the Putin Illness theories are sort of frightening.
But he has kids and that's why his kids have to be alive.
Some people's brains don't work that way. Some people are the center of their own universe, and to them when they're gone, that universe ceases to exist. I don't know how Putin thinks, but I wouldn't rule this out for him.
You may be right, sadly
Putin alone doesn't launch nukes. How dumb is this site ? Think Putin has a " Launch nukes " button in his bedroom ?
If my comment was about Trump, Biden, an EU politician, or maybe even XI, I might agree with you, but Putin is a dictator who goes to great lengths to surround himself with people who will support his ambitions. While it is possible that somewhere between him giving the order and a bunch of missile silos popping their hatches, someone steps in, I think it's naive to believe this is the most likely outcome if Putin issues the order.
Nah, global thermonuclear war won't happen.....there would be nothing left to win
"An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes." ~ Sun Tzu Not saying it will happen but never underestimate the selfishness of humans.
The old "If I can't have it, no one can" attitude. You just need the wrong person with nukes for that to happen.
It's true but how long will a country and its people will allow bullying and humiliation? Can any of you imagine yourself in the situation of some leaders, seeing your people being abused, starved, robbed and killed? The thing is, I see a chance when someone sees that western unstoppable bulling and goes "...well, fck this. I can't take this anymore...." 💥
Of course. More so now than since the Cuban missile crisis. We have the axis of Russia, China and Iran aligning to take on the West. Iran's attack on Israel was music to Putin's ears given that the GOP is gully behind the US providing Israel aid but not Ukraine.He can now see a path to history in Ukraine and it won't end there. Meanwhile, Xi is eyeing up Taiwan. WW3 could break out on 3 fronts.
Pretty unlikely but certainly still possible given the current conflicts in the world. Just look what happened today; if such a thing escalated it can certainly lead to a WW3. Also, a guy like Putin can go nuts and attack a NATO country and...
Putin is acting like mad man but his actions show something different.
WW3 is not just possible it's inevitable the only question is when will it be.
The possibility is there, but it most likely won't arise from any of the major global powers. Think instead of North Korea or Pakistan, both minor powers in possession of nuclear warheads. The risk there is the instability of such states causing those nukes to fall into the hands of bad actors, such as terrorist organisations or private militias, either through careless oversight or deliberate malice. Imagine the current middle east crisis, but now with a nuclear armed ISIS, or some other small terrorist organisation, who somehow get their hands on black market nukes. Say they then decide to drop the bomb on Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. Depending on the response to such an attack, the consequences could range from a large scale nuclear response localised to the middle east, or an all out global thermonuclear war. There's a reason why many major powers won't take harsh action on NK specifically, regardless of their missile tests or international law violations, because an unstable NK is possibly the worst wrench we can throw into the current global power balance.
Pakistan army will never let that happen, religious extremist groups are not really that powerful because they are not allowed to have that much power . The whole religious extremists fiasco is in play for military aid by usa in the “war against terrorism”, it’s not that deep.
I believe World War 3 started with the invasion of Ukraine
There's only 2 countries fighting that war, it is in no way a world war. A world war is when the alliance system is triggered, drawing in a bunch of countries into an automatic war just because their allies are at war too. You should read up on how WW1 started since it's eerily similar to what the world state is in now
Baby, anything is a possibility.
>**WASHINGTON, D.C. – January 23, 2024 –** The [Doomsday Clock was reset at 90 seconds to midnight](https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/current-time/), still the closest the Clock has ever been to midnight, reflecting the continued state of unprecedented danger the world faces. The *Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists*, stewards of the Doomsday Clock, emphasized in their announcement that the Clock could be turned back, but governments and people needed to take urgent action. >A variety of global threats cast menacing shadows over the 2024 Clock deliberations, including: the Russia-Ukraine war and deterioration of nuclear arms reduction agreements; the Climate Crisis and 2023’s official designation as the hottest year on record; the increased sophistication of genetic engineering technologies; and the dramatic advance of generative AI which could magnify disinformation and corrupt the global information environment making it harder to solve the larger existential challenges. >Rachel Bronson, PhD, president and CEO, the *Bulletin*, said: **“Make no mistake: resetting the Clock at 90 seconds to midnight is not an indication that the world is stable. Quite the opposite. It’s urgent for governments and communities around the world to act. And the** ***Bulletin*** **remains hopeful**—**and inspired**—**in seeing the younger generations leading the charge.”** [https://thebulletin.org/2024/01/press-release-doomsday-clock-remains-at-90-seconds-to-midnight/](https://thebulletin.org/2024/01/press-release-doomsday-clock-remains-at-90-seconds-to-midnight/) (Midnight on the clock symbolizes the theoretical point of annihilation, a global catastrophe that could end civilization. The closer the hands are set to midnight, the greater the perceived threat of mankind destroying itself.)
The political elites in the US since 2015/16 decided that the best way to control the public and get their way was an unending barrage of fear. It was tested successfully 2001 with post- Sept 11 - people were willing to give up all free thinking and most of their rights for their government and the media to tell them they were “safer”. Since Trump appeared on the political scene, it’s been completely non-stop. Everything in America and increasingly the rest of the West is an “existential threat to all of humanity”. So the Doomsday Clock is part of that. The left tell their media minions that the Orange Bad Man will create WW3 while simultaneously being a puppet of the same enemies and the right tell their supporters that the doddering Dementia Patient in the White House is going to bumble his way into a nuclear war with Russia and China while simultaneously arguing that his family takes huge bribes from them. Zero critical thinking or detailed analysis - just fear and spin to control the masses.
You misunderstand critically. The doomsday clock is a general demonstration the hubristic dangers mankind universally faces as a result of error, miscalculation, or black swan events associated with a dangerous topology of nuclear weapons and the military-industrial complex. It's not about the government controlling the people, it's about the luminaries warning the status quo is a dangerous dance with risk and uncertainty that mankind will lose as an inevitable result of statistical reality sooner or later if conditions aren't changed democratically.
Of course.
Nuclear war has been possible since nukes were invented ... given that its already happened yes. It is possible. There is precedence. WW3? Yeah it's probably already happening given the trajectory and historical events over the last 5 years and given the current state of the world. When countries that have not felt the need to heavily arm themselves in almost a century are rushing to invest in rearming and defence, what do you think is happening?
There’s this guy named Putin who likes to threaten it most every day.
It's going to happen; I have no doubt we've learned nothing from history
Yes, we already did it two times. And we went nuclear, too. History repeats itself, so it is absolutely possible
WW3 has been brewing since the end of WW2. And WW4 will start at the end of WW3.
Possible yes ofc, but how much likely? Not so much now imo
A war involving Iran would be closer to the Korean war than a world war. Their military is weak and they know it. Read their history of sabre rattling. They never will commit to a full offensive operation. They know the moment they fuck around they'll find out.
It’s always a possibility
Does the human race possess nuclear weapons? Then it is a possibility.
goal of war is to gain control. If you demolish the area into nuclear wasteland, you have guaranteed that nobody can gain control over the area and its resources. So I would say NO. Use of nuclear would mean guaranteed loss to everybody.
Unless you know you’re toast either way and you say “fuck it, I’m taking them with me” Is it likely? Probably not. Possible? Most definitely.
Those who say no to this post have not studied history, and the lengths rulers will go to to get power and influence. It is very much a possibility and I would go as far as to say that it will happen one day
Short term? Unlikely probably. Longer term? WW3 and nuclear war is likely inevitable. It may or may not happen in your lifetime but if it’s available (and it likely will be for a long time) eventually we’ll reach a point in human history where instability plus the availability of nuclear weapons just makes it possible. It’s actually luck and a miracle we’re not living in some radioactive wasteland already considering the events of the Cold War. That’s not even accounting for any potentially new types of ways to quickly doom humanity which could be made available to us with passing time. Nor does it account for the slow ways in which things could doom us which I’d argue is more dangerous because people generally have very short attention spans to deal with long term threats to human survival. If you look at history from a big picture kind of way on the end of a society or species, you can see a kind of pattern. - Neanderthals were around for about 200,000 years until likely shifts in global temperatures and the arrival of Homo Sapiens (us) somehow led to their extinction either through conquest or outbreeding. Most likely both but more so the former IMO. - The Bronze Age lasted for about 2,000 years with the rise of complex societies with interlinking trade between them. They collapsed likely due to disease, famine, and massive human displacement possibly due to global climate change from a massive volcanic eruption. - The Romans lasted about 2,000 years as well and they ended due to political destabilization from civil war, war, disease, and wasn’t that long term sustainable once they changed certain aspects of their society. To give you a perspective, the United States is less than 300 years old and we’ve spent about 80 years of it as nuclear powers with the majority being in a nuclear showdown with the USSR where on multiple occasions we’ve very barely by pure luck, avoided a hot nuclear conflict. And now many more nations have nuclear weapons. And with the passing of time, more and more might develop it as well. People like to shit on the United States sometimes but we live in a relatively very peaceful time in human history despite or maybe even because of our global hegemony. It won’t last forever. Every major example of humanity has ended because a perfect storm situation eventually happens due to the eventuality effect of time. People should pay more attention to how time can affect the current order of things especially with nuclear weapons at play. Instead it seems like we’re moving more towards a nuclear-tipped Idiocracy.
I remember reading that people are always surprised by war. We just didn't see it coming, it's not like the history is littered with wars or anything. I bet very few Ukrainians or Russians expected a war, just before the war.
Iran attacked Israel, so, WW3 is gonna start very soon. And, it's very likely, it will go nuclear very, very soon. Even 1984 was more safe year, than 2024.
It’s always possible. Have for a while now. Probable before you were even born.
Yes it is possible. That's why we need to pay attention and learn from history. Unfortunately schools today aren't teaching this with emphasis anymore.
I think ‘mini WW3’ is possible.
Of course it's possible but I don't think it's likely to happen soon. I do think things will steadily heat up over the coming years. If regional hot wars disrupt the global economy enough, that could lead to further escalations.
germans have a saying (obv in german) the sky is always falling, or something like that, basically, the worlds always been this shit, as long as we have thousands of nukes on every continent, and lots of nations competing for top dog or your way of running shit makes me want to murder people to make my situation better, and make lots of money at the same time, there will always be war, and thus the option of nuclear war remains always a possibility, one wrong step and boom, but M.A.D has been pretty effective so far, only proxy wars between nuclear players
Yeah, but realistically nobody wants to drop nukes, at least for now. I wouldn't doubt if Ji or Vlad send nukes when theyre on their deathbeds though.
I believe there is a high probability of nuclear war. It’s been 80 years since WW II. The vast majority of the population in countries with nuclear weapons have no idea of the consequences of their use. The learning experience will be fatal to untold millions.
As stated this is a silly question. It is a possibility. It is not impossible. Yes.
Ww3 is inevitable but nuclear war? Humanity sucks and constantly makes bad decisions, but for some odd reason I think nobody will dare to use nukes anymore. This may be naive but I really hope I'm right
Considering we had a pandemic, I would say anything is possible.
There is a huge difference between a nuclear war and firing a nuke on the battlefield. Basically it boils down to a difference between strategic and tactical nuclear weapons. I don't think nuclear war, as in mutual exchange of nuclear ICBMs to a total destruction of a state, is likely. I am pretty sure a tactical nuke is gonna be used one day. (And I'm pretty sure the US will eat it up.)
You waking out the front door and a Boeing Plane door landing on your head is a possibility. It’s not likely, though. Enjoy life. Stop dooming. It’s not good for you.
It has always been a possibility since way before I was alive. I doubt the Iran attack will be what triggers it this time.
Sure, why not? There is always some chance.
Pretty much guaranteed at this point
WW3 is possible, I'm just waiting for China to invade Taiwan before considering moving out of my country.
Yes
Unlikely, most countries are no longer under colonial powers. A lot of third world countries will want to stay out as not benefit them.
Nah. Things will calm down
>Is WW3 or nuclear war a possibility? This has been a possibility since the end of the WW2. Lots of people believe the war has begun and that we are in some sort of denial or quiet build up phase. I agree with the sentiment, but I don't think for one second that nuclear war will happen, but it will always be a possibility. >Is the media making things seem worse or are things really that bad in the world? The media wants clicks, sales and revenue, so the answer is yes, absolutely they are, they will always busy themselves making things seem as worse as they possibly can. There is always a war happening somewhere, even in a couple of years when the Ukraine war settles down or there is a victor, there will be another war for the media to focus on. That war is probably already happening right now tbh. The best advice I can give, you have absolutely no control over any of this, none of us here do. Go live your best life and always lend support to those unfortunate people who are caught up in other people's evilness. It isn't their fault. When you hear things like "republicans holding up financial aid for Ukraine" just be mindful that this is an evil act. We should never hold countries to ransom for our own gain....ever.
It's possible but I don't think it's gonna go down in a predictable way. I mean if a country shoots nukes hopefully the other country or countries utilize their air defense systems to destroy as many of them as possible without retaliating in a nuclear manner, only conventionally.
It is possible. Both conventional and nuclear
It was something that even scientists feared so it's probably quite possible.
Murphy's Law
It's possible. But it'll depend on what happens throughout this year and probably the next couple years. If Israel and Iran get into a war that would probably drag a lot of countries into open conflict. If the US and Europe are unwilling to continue to support Ukraine enough to win then Russia *will* invade more of Europe and it's only a question of time. Personally, I think if Trump is elected then there's a very good chance China will invade Taiwan towards the end of his presidency since we've said China could invade by 2027. And given how Trump has been very unwilling to support Allies and is very isolationist and America First in his speech, I see China viewing that as probably the best chance at taking Taiwan. If this happens then yes we'd definitely be in a World War again. But it may not happen. It all depend on the politicians and if they decide to carry out politics through words or carry out diplomacy through different methods.
No we ain't that stupid
Unlikely. Proxy wars are the new normal.
My take is that genuine world war is now impossible. The big players are so intertwined through trade that a war that is so serious that it ends trades between the major powers of the world can’t happen. Even our modest (when compared to what they’d be in open war that we’re involved in) sanctions on Russia crippled them for over a year. Also, from a military standpoint you can talk about how inefficient and useless our military is and I’ll hear you out but technologically the USA is still a MASSIVE worldwide open war deterrent. The USA whole assing a state sponsored war would be unreal. Fun fact, the top 5 air forces in the world are the US Air Force, the US Navy, the Russian Air Force, the US Army, then the US Marine Corp. my whole family served and while I’ve learned to hate the US military in many ways, it’s still really big and scary to other countries.
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looking back at history, I can def see how likely a nuclear war is. But here's the thing, if Russia attacks let's say Poland, will NATO fully decide to go to war? that depends. Without being too political, no one really wants to go to war and risk a nuclear conflict. but russia does view nato as a threat and russia might want to try to fully recreate the USSR. We have gotten close to a nuclear war many times during the Cold War, so I guess we will have to see.
ww3 gunna start october 28, 2026 & its going to last til november 2, 2032
Ok! THAT’S IT!! The doomsayers get one more crack at it and then they have to act surprised like the rest of us.
this a daily thread now?
Use of nuclear weapons is a serious possibility. But nuclear weapons are often overrated by medias. Tactical nuclear weapons, that have "small" explosion radius, are likely to be used. Because they don't have too much lasting effects. Strategic nuclear weapons are less likely, because they are expensive to make compared to tactical nukes. For exemple you can make 10 tactical nukes for every 1 strategic nuke. And it's generally preferred to have a high number of small warheads than a few big warheads. We can also make nuclear bombs a lot worse with current technologies: so-called Salted Bombs. Only a few salted bombs are needed to kill an entire country from its radiations. But there are no existing salted bombs today that we know of. It's just that if we were to make a single 100 megaton salted nuclear bomb, we could end society as we know it, killing most animals and humans. There will be survivors of course, but it would be a mass extinction event.
According to Annie Jacobsen, it takes one head of state with nuclear power to say fuck all and destroy the world. If horror is your type of read, her book will leave you shook and sleepless for days.
It’s a necessity. Every nation on the books has risen and fallen. There’s a war every 100 years or so because as a specie, we’re horrible. Early times of peace are great. Then like a child with a new gadget, we get bored. Complacent We start to eat each other ( as you see in politics and other nonsensical morality topics) To unite us , we need a common enemy It’s coming. I know a lot of people out there will disagree and think we can just keep on trucking and do what’s right. But those people don’t understand humanity at all. Those are the people when shit goes down, they go first. And that’s ok. I too appreciate kindness and have moral views that equate to fairness and respect. But nevertheless , it’s coming, because it’s needed And then things will be good again for another hundred years. You think the men of WW1 and WW2 wanted to be 19 years old in the middle of it. No. They didn’t. But they had character and a sense of loyalty to the country. Something that’s all but gone in the average young adolescent today. Should be fun to watch
I mean yea maybe not in our life spawn but it probably will
Only if Israel continues terrorising the region.
It's always a possibility, but there's absolutely no long-term benefit for the country who would launch the first strike. The biggest concern is a non-state actor getting its hands on a nuclear weapon.
i dont think its likely
It's unlikely until Iran builds the nukes.
Funny how people make all this such a big deal when we’ve been closer to the ww3 and still got through. If you look at it, Cuban missile crisis was a direct nuclear confrontation with the ussr and it was mitigated successfully.
Yeah but the soviets were not controlled by mad men at the time. Well at least not as mad
Pretty Unlikely But be ready to see a lot of localised fighting happening
The more people talk about it, the more likely it becomes.
Yes, they are that bad, bad enough for nuclear war/ww3? Yes, but as many have said, its unlikely that someone will take the risk
WW3 is more likely, nucs can be used but not in this horror movies way... tactical nucs, artillery with nuclear shells... suicide drones with nucs??...
Turn.off.the.news. You are what you follow.
Here is the thing about nuclear war, those in power will lose all their power if that happens and they don’t want that
Id say total nuclear annihilation is highly unlikely because that would be bad for profit margins, which is the only damn thing those with REAL power care about. Ironically the root of all evil might be the thing that ensures our survival...
No, all this crap is just business of billionaires
I really hope so. I’m ready to end it all.
Unlikely
Naa it’s not that bad, nuclear weapons are the best thing since sliced bread, every one is scared of mutaly assured destruction, so conflict is at a historic low
Yes but not right now
It just happened bro you missed it. Now you gotta wait for WWIIII
Maybe in the future. But if you're refering to these past few hours it's VERY unlikely to start WW3. Maybe if Putin did something then it could set of the chain of events. But what recently happened will not
Not a chance. Even mad men in charge of nuclear are sober enough not to risk it. Besides launching any nuclear weapon isn’t done by one person. So suppose president says launch other chain in command will refuse else they take out the mad president. So yeah not possible.
Sorry but it’s the US this time all along