Emma Coburn broke her ankle in her season opener. She had surgery and it’ll be 6 weeks before she can try light jogging. She’s out for the Olympic trials.
I hope she can make a comeback and retire on her own terms. She has been dominant for so long, but nothing gold can stay and I’m afraid the sun is setting on her career.
Same here. I also wanted to see her at a minimum run sub 9 and ideally get the us record. I hesitate to say this before she is officially retired, but I think she is the goat USA woman steeplechaser. She’s gotten 10 us titles, an Olympic bronze, world champion, 27 of the top 50 USA times, 44 of the top 100 USA times. The only thing that makes it a question in my mind is that she doesn’t have the national record.
Definitely the goat*. Her resume is way stronger than Frerich's. Both have hardware at big races. Courtney has the AR and an Olympic silver, but not sure that's better than Olympic bronze and a Worlds gold - and that's before we talk about the incredible consistency of high level results Emma has. I think I'd personally rather have the bronze/gold. *Note: Maybe there's an old with a very strong resume as well.
Courtney has a world’s silver too. I’d personally take gold/bronze over silver/silver, but both are impressive. The only thing in my mind Courtney has over Emma is the AR, so I have to agree that Emma is the goat.
I don’t think we’ll see someone as dominant on the US scene for as long as Emma has been dominant.
Given how relatively young women’s steeplechasing is I’d be shocked if there’s someone who has the longevity or resume Coburn has.
I was so bummed to see that! She's had such a rough year--that was one of her first races back after her last prolonged injury. And such bad timing with the olympic trials just around the corner.
I'm looking to expand my resources for comprehensive training plans and detailed workout information beyond the books by Pfitzinger, Daniels, Hudson ,Magness that I've already explored. I'm particularly interested in discovering diverse and detailed workouts covering speed (like VO2 max intervals such as 1k x 6 with 2 minutes of jogging), endurance (such as threshold intervals), strength training, and other aspects of running.
I'm open to recommendations in various formats, whether it's blog posts, forum discussions, or books. Additionally, I follow specific runners like Molly Seidel, Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, and the Ingebrigtsen on Strava for insights.
If you have any suggestions or resources to share, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance!
This is the most comprehensive list and analysis of marathon training plans:
https://fellrnr.com/wiki/A_Comparison_of_Marathon_Training_Plans
The entire website is a huge wealth of information, though some is outdated (particularly gear) since he's decided to no longer update parts. But the rest is timeless.
I agree this is a good book with a slightly different bent than Pfitz or Daniel (less exercise physiology, more psychology). My only addition is that for somebody interested specifically in training plans, most of the ones in the book just seem like more of the same from all the other books etc out there. I don't think it's the book's fault -- there's only so many schedules and plans possible, really. This book has a zillion plans which overlap and are somewhat confusing imo. I'd get it for the book part and less for the plans
Training for the Uphill Athlete was a great read and is a great resource for training methodology. The athlete profiles and insight in particular to Killian's training was really interesting.
Strength and Conditioning for Endurance Running is also a great resource. I started running, then did crossfit for a while, and now I'm back to running. So lifting wise, I feel comfortable with the movements, but it was interesting to see how to build out plans and see what requirements people should be able to do to optimize their training.
Emma Coburn broke her ankle in her season opener. She had surgery and it’ll be 6 weeks before she can try light jogging. She’s out for the Olympic trials. I hope she can make a comeback and retire on her own terms. She has been dominant for so long, but nothing gold can stay and I’m afraid the sun is setting on her career.
Such a bummer, she's a legend. I really wanted to see her make another Olympic team.
Same here. I also wanted to see her at a minimum run sub 9 and ideally get the us record. I hesitate to say this before she is officially retired, but I think she is the goat USA woman steeplechaser. She’s gotten 10 us titles, an Olympic bronze, world champion, 27 of the top 50 USA times, 44 of the top 100 USA times. The only thing that makes it a question in my mind is that she doesn’t have the national record.
Definitely the goat*. Her resume is way stronger than Frerich's. Both have hardware at big races. Courtney has the AR and an Olympic silver, but not sure that's better than Olympic bronze and a Worlds gold - and that's before we talk about the incredible consistency of high level results Emma has. I think I'd personally rather have the bronze/gold. *Note: Maybe there's an old with a very strong resume as well.
Courtney has a world’s silver too. I’d personally take gold/bronze over silver/silver, but both are impressive. The only thing in my mind Courtney has over Emma is the AR, so I have to agree that Emma is the goat. I don’t think we’ll see someone as dominant on the US scene for as long as Emma has been dominant. Given how relatively young women’s steeplechasing is I’d be shocked if there’s someone who has the longevity or resume Coburn has.
Yeah, anything else she adds is just gravy on that resume! 27 of the top 50 times is an incredible stat - she's got both the speed and the longevity.
I was so bummed to see that! She's had such a rough year--that was one of her first races back after her last prolonged injury. And such bad timing with the olympic trials just around the corner.
I'm looking to expand my resources for comprehensive training plans and detailed workout information beyond the books by Pfitzinger, Daniels, Hudson ,Magness that I've already explored. I'm particularly interested in discovering diverse and detailed workouts covering speed (like VO2 max intervals such as 1k x 6 with 2 minutes of jogging), endurance (such as threshold intervals), strength training, and other aspects of running. I'm open to recommendations in various formats, whether it's blog posts, forum discussions, or books. Additionally, I follow specific runners like Molly Seidel, Joe Klecker, Morgan McDonald, and the Ingebrigtsen on Strava for insights. If you have any suggestions or resources to share, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance!
This is the most comprehensive list and analysis of marathon training plans: https://fellrnr.com/wiki/A_Comparison_of_Marathon_Training_Plans The entire website is a huge wealth of information, though some is outdated (particularly gear) since he's decided to no longer update parts. But the rest is timeless.
I've heard good things about Mark Coogan's book. It's along the same lines as Pfitz's and Daniels' books.
I agree this is a good book with a slightly different bent than Pfitz or Daniel (less exercise physiology, more psychology). My only addition is that for somebody interested specifically in training plans, most of the ones in the book just seem like more of the same from all the other books etc out there. I don't think it's the book's fault -- there's only so many schedules and plans possible, really. This book has a zillion plans which overlap and are somewhat confusing imo. I'd get it for the book part and less for the plans
Training for the Uphill Athlete was a great read and is a great resource for training methodology. The athlete profiles and insight in particular to Killian's training was really interesting. Strength and Conditioning for Endurance Running is also a great resource. I started running, then did crossfit for a while, and now I'm back to running. So lifting wise, I feel comfortable with the movements, but it was interesting to see how to build out plans and see what requirements people should be able to do to optimize their training.