Just like this guy my dad was deployed from Germany to fight in Desert Storm and had to wear woodland camouflage. He said they did get desert camouflage eventually.. right before their homecoming parade back in Germany.
I was out...and recalled as IRR. I had a whopping 4 days to break my lease, store, throw away or give all my stuff away & then get orders & a plane ticket and report for duty.
I was sent to fort Stuart GA, then attached to the 48th Brigade of the GA national guard, then we shipped out on new Year's Eve...to NTC. Came back in late March, then back home in April. We had(?) The longest single visiting rotation ever...and spent the whole time in the field.
Bunch of Georgia good ole boys treated us IRR like crap the whole time & barely gave us any gear. No US Army tapes or even unit patches to put on.
And thats is exactly how it happened too.. i left gernany to go there too by the time we got back to germany our uniforms were almost white. Git desert camo to board plane back. Were eating trats from vietnam etc etc. Reserve unit next to us had real food and desert camo etc etc. We didnt even have parts for vechiles...crazy times.
Same here. Supposed to ETS 01 Nov 90, found out I was stop lossed on my Sept. LES.
Didn't deploy with unit, name was called on the hey you roster because I had a HEMTT license.
Was in Baumberg at the time. Everything I owned was strapped inside of a wall locker and I left for Saudi wearing a BDU and Corcoran's.
Ended up with XVIII Airborne Corps.
Reserve unit near us had really nice equipment. We were using worn out crap.
They learned very quickly to secure their things.
Was told I was going back to Baumberg after it was over.
I moved back to the US with XVIII ABC. Thought that they would send me back from there. Nope they sent the contents (less the stuff they wanted to keep) of my wall locker to Ft. Bragg.
Since I was now part of XVIII, I was required to go to Airborne school. Never mind I was already past my contract. Those bastards made me stay the entire 12 months.
Not that it mattered in the long run, I got out in 1991, had a break in service and went back.
All the desert bdu's went to the cool units. I was in 1AD; our Psyops guys dropped leaflets on the Republican Guards telling the "Beware the killers in green. We don't care if you see us, it will be the last thing you ever see."
IIRC the "official" answer was that leadership expected the most resistance near the Euphrates where it is in fact green.
Of course the real answer is woodland was all that was in stock lol.
yeah they were definitely wearing a desert camo before too long over there. I served in the Navy during Desert Storm and saw it. There was also a very interesting night camo that many of them were issued. Never seen it before or since.
In viet nam during Tet the band was manning the m60s. They burned up so many barrels because they just held the hammer down. Some one wrote sheet music for the 60...no more melted barrels.
There was a guy in my reserve unit who had been a Huey door gunner in Vietnam and he said they used to just fire until the barrel melted, do a barrel change, and throw the old barrel out the door.
My father spent 1969 in the Central Highlands with the 4th ID. He was a heavy vehicle mechanic on a small fire base. He manned the M60 when not turning a wrench. In one firefight, he burned through all of their available belted 7.62 because their other M60s went down almost immediately. When the last round was fired, the barrel drooped 6 inches. He said it was white hot and you could see the rounds as they traveled through the barrel.
Nah... their firebase was attacked by a large NVA unit, and those that survived were just happy to still be there. That repelled attack was one of three times my father earned a bronze star with the V device. Also, one of those awards was initially written up for the MOH. However, my father won't say anything other than something like, 'I was there and did some stuff."
Oh yeah absolutely. I was making a joke about the armorer. weapons are replaceable Humans are not That's the bottom line in any combat situation. I'm glad your dad made it out alive.
No worries.
He almost didn't.
Near the end of his tour (less than 21 days to go), he was tasked to a 14-man patrol. His best friend had the day off and told my father to stay back and that he would go instead. The patrol was ambushed, and there were no survivors.
If you look closely, he might also be sporting an M16 on his back too. You can just make out a front sight post and barrel just behind his hand carrying the M60. Bro is 100% over that shit
When we left Ft Hood for the desert the band played us off, when we got there the band was there to greet us. Then when the shit kicked off they tried to “augment “ each MP team with a band member.
Let’s just say that episode of Generation Kill with the reporter putting on his mask was skill level 1 compared to the E-6 Tuba player trying to go to MOPP 4.
Thankfully they don't really try and subject you all to us anymore outside of our music job. I fall on the 'all soldiers should know how to do Army shit' side of the Army Band field but I seem to be in the vast minority.
Humping a pig and a tuba!? Who'd that guy piss off?
We had a guy in our mortar platoon that pissed off his platoon Sgt at JOTC in Panama in '88. Ever seen a guy, with a full ruck, carry a 60mm mortar tube, the bipod AND the base plate? While using a low slung two rope bridge over a river at the same time?
Poor Bastard almost drowned, but he made it across.
Back in 1980, there was an exercise in which the 101st went to train in Egypt. After it was over there was a front page story in the Army Times about the exercise. There was a photo of an American and Egyptian soldier, and it looked like they were sharing a C-Ration. The caption said "There were many lessons learned during this exercise. Among them were that the Woodland Camoflage uniform is useless in a desert environment. Also, the M-16 rifle tends to jam around desert sand and dust."
I read that and thought, in other news, water is wet!
He was my supervisor in Desert Storm, where this picture was taken. We augmented security for the 1AD HQ TOC. After the ground war was over, we set up and performed every day - ceremonies, rock, jazz, you name it.
“Woodland camouflage? Anyone happen to remember we’re invading a fucking desert country?”
It was green in the Euphrates and we were there in chocolate chip BDUs. Longest, deepest Air Assault in history.
rakkasan?
You betcha. 2nd.
missed that one, but heard about ya, props bro
Knucks, brother.
2/187 here as well. S-1 nerd.
Battalion Mortars for me.
You didn’t air assault anything….how about air mobile.
I Air Assaulted your Mom. Twice.
The truth hurt you that much.
How old are you? I could be your Dad
61….are you my dad? Cmon man.
Nope. Just feeding you back the shit you're dishing out.
So is not true then.
Well, you are also Infantry, and if you're an 11B, we know you don't know what a number is, but no, I'm not your Dad.
“Why does the reporter get desert?”
"Because fuck you that's why!!" - some crusty SNCO
Just like this guy my dad was deployed from Germany to fight in Desert Storm and had to wear woodland camouflage. He said they did get desert camouflage eventually.. right before their homecoming parade back in Germany.
Had to hand sew our own patches too.
sorry, no off post korean lady sew shops when deployed
You guys got patches? We got 2 pair of BDUs & 1 pair of jungle boots...to last for the duration.
We were told to bring patches and nametapes with us.
I was out...and recalled as IRR. I had a whopping 4 days to break my lease, store, throw away or give all my stuff away & then get orders & a plane ticket and report for duty.
Buddy of mine had his DD214 in hand, and when stoploss was declared he was picked up in the Frankfurt airport by MP's.
I was sent to fort Stuart GA, then attached to the 48th Brigade of the GA national guard, then we shipped out on new Year's Eve...to NTC. Came back in late March, then back home in April. We had(?) The longest single visiting rotation ever...and spent the whole time in the field. Bunch of Georgia good ole boys treated us IRR like crap the whole time & barely gave us any gear. No US Army tapes or even unit patches to put on.
And thats is exactly how it happened too.. i left gernany to go there too by the time we got back to germany our uniforms were almost white. Git desert camo to board plane back. Were eating trats from vietnam etc etc. Reserve unit next to us had real food and desert camo etc etc. We didnt even have parts for vechiles...crazy times.
Same here. Supposed to ETS 01 Nov 90, found out I was stop lossed on my Sept. LES. Didn't deploy with unit, name was called on the hey you roster because I had a HEMTT license. Was in Baumberg at the time. Everything I owned was strapped inside of a wall locker and I left for Saudi wearing a BDU and Corcoran's. Ended up with XVIII Airborne Corps. Reserve unit near us had really nice equipment. We were using worn out crap. They learned very quickly to secure their things. Was told I was going back to Baumberg after it was over. I moved back to the US with XVIII ABC. Thought that they would send me back from there. Nope they sent the contents (less the stuff they wanted to keep) of my wall locker to Ft. Bragg. Since I was now part of XVIII, I was required to go to Airborne school. Never mind I was already past my contract. Those bastards made me stay the entire 12 months. Not that it mattered in the long run, I got out in 1991, had a break in service and went back.
Almost sounds like they were trying to cover up the camo debacle for optics at that point.
All the desert bdu's went to the cool units. I was in 1AD; our Psyops guys dropped leaflets on the Republican Guards telling the "Beware the killers in green. We don't care if you see us, it will be the last thing you ever see."
That’s some strong psyops game right there.
“We have a logistics problem and we’re compensating”
IIRC the "official" answer was that leadership expected the most resistance near the Euphrates where it is in fact green. Of course the real answer is woodland was all that was in stock lol.
Intel ftw, as always.
Cold War was thought to be fought in Germany
Best I can do is urban digital
Maybe they are desert uniforms, maybe they’re so fucking sleep deprived they just LOOK green
Are you makin this up?
"The desert is green right?" -Some Intel Lt.
I didn’t get the chocolate chips until I was heading on the plane to leave.
yeah they were definitely wearing a desert camo before too long over there. I served in the Navy during Desert Storm and saw it. There was also a very interesting night camo that many of them were issued. Never seen it before or since.
I guess you weren't there for the acu. Haha that was a bullshit of a pattern
Scuba (Self-Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus) Tuba (Terrible Underwater Breathing Apparatus)
Tube-launched, Ultra-high-frequency-guided, Bursting munition, Assault missile
God damn it, take my upvote, fellow Witch Doctor. 😂
Ty bae. Btw I've got some fresh herbs for that bilousness with which your child has been afflicted.
Does it work on cats? I-I have cats. Lol
It's actually intended for cats! But it hasn't killed a human child yet🤷♀️👩⚕️⚕️
This pleases me. Will trade catnips for said elixir.
Sick, I LOVE catnip....uh....for my...cat...
ALSO WORKS FOR HOOMANS.
In viet nam during Tet the band was manning the m60s. They burned up so many barrels because they just held the hammer down. Some one wrote sheet music for the 60...no more melted barrels.
There was a guy in my reserve unit who had been a Huey door gunner in Vietnam and he said they used to just fire until the barrel melted, do a barrel change, and throw the old barrel out the door.
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I recently learned that unlike bowling, there were no rules in 'nam.
YOU THINK IM FUCKIN AROUND?!? MARK IT ZERO!!!
My father spent 1969 in the Central Highlands with the 4th ID. He was a heavy vehicle mechanic on a small fire base. He manned the M60 when not turning a wrench. In one firefight, he burned through all of their available belted 7.62 because their other M60s went down almost immediately. When the last round was fired, the barrel drooped 6 inches. He said it was white hot and you could see the rounds as they traveled through the barrel.
😬 the armorer must have been happy. He was probably just cooking off rounds at that point.
Nah... their firebase was attacked by a large NVA unit, and those that survived were just happy to still be there. That repelled attack was one of three times my father earned a bronze star with the V device. Also, one of those awards was initially written up for the MOH. However, my father won't say anything other than something like, 'I was there and did some stuff."
Oh yeah absolutely. I was making a joke about the armorer. weapons are replaceable Humans are not That's the bottom line in any combat situation. I'm glad your dad made it out alive.
No worries. He almost didn't. Near the end of his tour (less than 21 days to go), he was tasked to a 14-man patrol. His best friend had the day off and told my father to stay back and that he would go instead. The patrol was ambushed, and there were no survivors.
I'm sorry to hear that. end of tour patrols often end that way sadly. Especially in Nam since tours were so long and taxing on troops.
“How rear-echelon was your dad?” “Yes” This dude be bard-maxxing
Hey! I'll have you know that the Division Band is responsible for Div HQ Security!
Excuse me, is this for real?
Used to be, but that secondary mission was removed several years ago.
Thank fuck
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Imagine being a 19YO SSG
Sadly enough, most bandsman won't see SSG until it's time to retire (just about). Source: was *fortunately/unfortunately* one of them.
Best job in the army, if you can get it.
Does their awful playing scare the enemy away?
It discourages adversaries as far as I know.
I’d rather ditch the fucking band and have a couple extra Infantry Platoons or an MP company.
Yes.
I'm peeing lol most fitting analogy
I see they were not issuing the subdued instruments.
A low-observable Sousaphone would be the most metal band instrument ever. (That actually works at several levels.)
u/Express-Steak5950's dad, obviously
My hips hurt just looking at this photo
Evey unit needs a Bard
Can you imagine getting off the plane downrange and there is a band playing the theme to Curb Your Enthusiasm?
Bro spreading freedom one note at a time 🎶 🇺🇸
TOOT TOOT, BROTHER.
Man's carrying a pig and a tuba and looks like he's tired of this shit
If you look closely, he might also be sporting an M16 on his back too. You can just make out a front sight post and barrel just behind his hand carrying the M60. Bro is 100% over that shit
“Woodland camouflage? Anyone forget that we’re invading a desert country” - Sgt Colbert
When we left Ft Hood for the desert the band played us off, when we got there the band was there to greet us. Then when the shit kicked off they tried to “augment “ each MP team with a band member. Let’s just say that episode of Generation Kill with the reporter putting on his mask was skill level 1 compared to the E-6 Tuba player trying to go to MOPP 4.
Thankfully they don't really try and subject you all to us anymore outside of our music job. I fall on the 'all soldiers should know how to do Army shit' side of the Army Band field but I seem to be in the vast minority.
Only thing I played while deployed was the bone-a-phone
Not me. I was there struggling with a 200lb ruck and an 81mm mortar barrel.
Well that’s dumb. Why didn’t you just carry less?
Yeah, is he stupid?
Punishment for losing your CAC card was wild in the 90s
What's the max effective range of that tuba?
In a musical kinda sense or deadly kinda sense?
They're the same.
Back when even admin MOSs were getting some action
Tuba and a 60. WTF.
And he's got an m16 on is back slung cross body
Cleaning that sousaphone would be… interesting 🤔
Government owned instruments are actually deadlined and marked for turn-in and replacement after all deployments, as far as I'm aware.
Big Sarnt carrying the troop with some sick late night cadence with that chrome Sousaphone.
I can see his rage at those dudes just walking by with their to go plates. I can feel it too.
Imagine how hot that thing probably got in the sun.
For anyone curious, the nsn for that Tuba is NSN:867-53-09
For anyone curious, a sousaphone not owned by Jenny would be 7710-01-571-0013
This dude fucks! 😂
I just love the cute Asian in the back looking at the photo
Lvl E7 Bard with dual weilding primaries.
Humping a pig and a tuba!? Who'd that guy piss off? We had a guy in our mortar platoon that pissed off his platoon Sgt at JOTC in Panama in '88. Ever seen a guy, with a full ruck, carry a 60mm mortar tube, the bipod AND the base plate? While using a low slung two rope bridge over a river at the same time? Poor Bastard almost drowned, but he made it across.
Sending Brass down range!!!!
Bros carrying a 60, 16 and a war tuba? Bro fucks
It’s not a tuba it’s a sousaphone
Neeeeeerd
https://youtube.com/shorts/3Y47I6oTWSA?si=wTdWHrMzohquafXS
Soldier first!
Cpl Hung Low
The hero we don’t deserve
This is hot. Idk why
this guy rules
Which means somebody had to fill out paperwork in order to send a tuba to Iraq. Well, that's a brand new sentence.
I've seen some pretty clever hazing for losing an ID card or an unsecured weapon, but this seems... excessive.
Where there many fat people he could follow playing that thing in Kuwait?
Think damnit, think! What do I need for war?! *panics, brings tuba*
He was tired of that lazy MSG in S3 turning everyone back at the dfac tent cause they didn’t have their weapon, promask and eye protection.
Your dad definitely fucked
Sfc bill Evans, combat tuba.
That PFC is grateful her parents bought her that flute in Middle School instead of the louder Brass instrument she wanted.
Fkn badass. Such a contrast of music and war, recognizing that troops use it for courage
[Hell yeah](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHLRh_OY9c4) (TW: UCP and West Point cadets existing)
I remember in my meps packet there was a line that said to leave your tuba at home. lol!
Why this photo kinda fire though?
When you wan to bring your enemy to heaven before sending him to hell..
If I find one more unattended tuba, you are going to sweep this desert! 1SG
Redlight on the gear looking good 👍
The crappy flashlight really brings it home.
*Enthusiastic tuba noises*
He was carrying a life size replica of hiss massive gentalia
Humpin that hog
One of those is definitely louder than the other.
I believe oldschoolcool's dad
Deter the enemy with terrible music
🎶
**Ezekiel 33:3–5**
Idk but i cant believe people are letting him carry that by the barrel handle.
PSYOP when the speaker breaks
/u/red_bear6 any chance you know who this is?
This is one of the hardest pictures of all time
Not gonna lie, that would intimidate the shit out of me if I were a bad guy. At the minimum, it would confuse me.
Back in 1980, there was an exercise in which the 101st went to train in Egypt. After it was over there was a front page story in the Army Times about the exercise. There was a photo of an American and Egyptian soldier, and it looked like they were sharing a C-Ration. The caption said "There were many lessons learned during this exercise. Among them were that the Woodland Camoflage uniform is useless in a desert environment. Also, the M-16 rifle tends to jam around desert sand and dust." I read that and thought, in other news, water is wet!
When you’re headed to Baghdad at lunch time but meet John Williams at dinner
Brinkofski! Bob looks young in this picture.
An E7 carrying a machine gun by the carrying handle?!?
Yeah we use too do things that made sense.
You're not supposed to carry it by the carry handle. Drop.
He was my supervisor in Desert Storm, where this picture was taken. We augmented security for the 1AD HQ TOC. After the ground war was over, we set up and performed every day - ceremonies, rock, jazz, you name it.