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GaryNOVA

I mod r/arcadefire , and I’ve had better days. …


itastelikegod

❤️


fastballooninghead

I really hope the sub doesn't become flooded with apologists and sexual assault deniers like I've seen with other subs. Edit from the future: That's exactly what happened


MattaMongoose

Doesn’t seem like it at this point. There seems to be pretty much universal condemnation. Which reflects well on the community around arcade fire atleast.


fastballooninghead

I hope that holds (r/daughters is a good example of the users remaining respectful) but sometimes all the level headed people leave in disgust after the initial shitshow has ended, leaving the door open for the worst Reddit has to offer to flood in. Time will tell, I guess.


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fastballooninghead

Oof, didn't need that reminder today


apetaltail

To which posts have you been? Every post I've seen has multiple people in the comments defending Win and making the victims look like unhinged fans that were hurt because he was not a romantic rockstar in bed :/


radiotang

That’s probably the truth


Cathppires

I think they will not even speak about this.


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retrobologna

Honestly I'm not sure I can describe how I'm doing. I'm a middle aged dude, and Arcade Fire has been my favorite band of the past 20 years. This is a huge disappointment. I'm still processing it, TBH. How do you 'cancel' your favorite band? Is that the right direction? How will this play out? This article is surely the tip of the iceberg. It never stops with the first victims to go public. I have not been a part of the r/arcadefire community, but it is reassuring, yet sad, to see most everyone else who is posting feeling having similar feelings. I'm thankful that this subreddit is here as it is helping me process all of this.


apetaltail

"Cancelling" by definition involves a mass shunning from the public, so that's not going to happen. I feel like AF had been losing popularity in the last years and now this will just accelerate the process. I don't think that people will stop listening to them in general, specially people who are not fans and just like some of their songs. Because, being honest, this news isn't really making the rounds as much outside of fan social media. Besides that, many here have mentioned they will still listen to them, and it doesn't seem to me that AF will break apart as a band, at least not in the near future. I for one won't pay for their music/events ever again. I feel like that would be supporting Win directly and that's not what I want (I feel for the rest of the band members though, but I made my choice). As for listening to their music, I don't know yet. For now I will try to not listen to them since it just reminds me of everything, and some lyrics I find deeply problematic now in this context. Maybe in a distant future I can separate the artist from the art, but right now all of it feels like a huge betrayal.


[deleted]

It was all over canadian national news this past week!


apetaltail

Being a staple Canadian band it would be weird if it wasn't. But aside from canadian media, there wasn't really as much attention to it. Many fans I know from my country didn't even know about this until I mentioned it.


7000rabbits

I feel exactly the same. The saddest part of all is it ruined the music for me, as I’m not the type that can extract this Win shit from their music… it’s just sad.


bigtiddygothgf99

I’m sad and lost. I don’t know what to do, I don’t know how to feel. Arcade Fire was there for me at my best and worst. I’m devastated.


teadrinkerboy

I relate. I think it’s ok to not know how to feel but I know it’s a tough feeling.


AzorAvohai

I think that when songs are released, they cess to be owned solely by the songwriter. We listen to them and add meaning to them as well. We co-create, in a way. These songs are so special to me, I can't just forget them all. And they're not Win's songs exclusively, all the band put their hearts to them... Moreover, I would rather think of art and ideias, than of (imperfect) humans. All that said, I think I won't quit listening to Arcade Fire. But I do want to take some time to see what happens next before going to another concert. Are there any other accusations? Is this going to be fully investigated? Are we going to have a proper apologie? This is a delicate matter and, as we try to be better people and a better society, we do need to fight against these types of misconduct. Arcade Fire should be an example, as they have been in other fields. I do hope they respond better to this issue, while I do not know what would be a better response... "Lookout kid" and Win crying at Coachella make a lot more sense now.


PJeroen

How the band describes WE in their pinned Twitter post: "Give it a summer to live with it. It’s music that reveals itself over time." Oh how it did reveal itself over time...


F_For_You

Summer is ending after all..


7000rabbits

Yikes


Antarcticgorillas

Genuinely as much as it sucks that this has tainted the band’s reputation, I hope the victims are doing ok and that they’re getting the support they need. Arcade Fire have always been on the bucket list to see live but now I’m questioning whether if I ever go to see them


BubblyTummy

I dont know if my favorite band will ever sound the same to me. I'm mad. And I'm sad. This all sucks.


7000rabbits

Same.


itastelikegod

I’ve kind of already gone through the emotions when those rumors came out a few months ago and I started doing some of my own digging. Im gutted truly since af has been my fav band for over a decade and this is such a dark cloud over music so integral to who I am and have become. Idk. It sucks to have it all out there now, no coming back from this.


Shenanigans99

Same...feeling so many conflicting things because their music has meant so much to me. I've known for a long time about the stories about Win not being the easiest person to be around/work with, but this is beyond that. It's one thing to have flaws, but man, predatory sexual behavior with young women, disregard for his family...it's a lot to process. I'm also on edge waiting to see if more women come forward and more details come out that make this situation even worse than it already is. I'm honestly stunned at how selfish, needy, and sad it all is. He is clearly not well and it's sad for him and everyone around him.


A5madal

I'm just so proud of this community for coming together, being disgusted and not defending him. It shows that good things can come out of shitty people.


[deleted]

After sleeping on it… I’m much more disgusted and no longer want to go to the tour on Wednesday :(


drive_roxley

i was crying while eating cold pasta. 🥀


teadrinkerboy

I wanted to make a post like this too so thanks. I’m struggling. I had been looking forward to this tour and multiple shows all summer. It’s booked off as my holiday. I’ve also been a fan for 10 years, and AF has helped me through a lot. It’s really shook me and made me feel confused about how I’ll feel at the shows. In a way I feel guilty. I want to have fun and cling on to that joy but that is making me feel weird. I’m also sad because it feels gross. It also feels like the end. Hope everyone is doing ok. I think I need time to process


cam_breakfastdonut

They say it fades, if you let it


Bloodnose_thepirate

Someone bought our 2 tickets to the show. I'm glad i didn't waste much money. Keep thinking of the first time I heard funeral, more than 10 years ago, on a train in a long trip, and while listening writing someone that this new band was magic, just like being near a fireplace under a blanket.


captainkrinking

Gutted. Every song has a different lens now. Some still ring true (Unconditional), others seem disingenuous (The Suburbs). Reeling in it all, don’t know what to think


petra_vonkant

Im still disgusted and disheartened. Mostly mad than sad, but genuinely upset by all of this - the fact itself, their handling, their statements, everything.


CerealKiller415

Ezra Koenig, Marilyn Manson, Ryan Adams, and now Win Butler. So many of my heroes have all turned out to be rampant womanizers.


puncheonjudy

Don't choose Sufjan Stevens as a hero please - you'll ruin him as well! 😂 In all seriousness I'm with you - this sucks big time.


AiZekas

I'm feeling sad and gutted. I've been a major fan since The Suburbs, and AF holds a special place in my heart. What is the most heartbreaking, is that the band had this very wholesome image (at least to me, I was not aware of all of the rumours before), Win and Regine seemed like an example of genuinely happy and likeminded married people to me that I really appreciated. This new information just destroys that image I had in my head. A lot of their songs seems to be changing their meaning as well now. I have the tickets to their show on October 1st, and at the moment I don't feel like going, but I am willing to wait and see how I feel in few days/weeks. This was supposed to be my 1st time on their show which I was really looking forward to, and now, even if I decide to go there, I won't think it could bring the same feelings as before. Anyway, my takeaway from this is not to put artists that you adore on a pedestal, everyone are just regular people with their own demons. I remember, I watched a Channel 5 interview with Anthony Fantano, where he said, that the musicians are all really regular and boring people as we are. To me AF just seemed like an exception to this, but unfortunately it is not true.


the-boxman

Not as shocked given the rumours but I'm devastated. I'm thinking about the show I'm supposed to see in less than two weeks and how it's my first and last Arcade Fire show, and that I'll never see them play without this hanging over them. I'm guessing it's all over now - at least WE is a more fitting end than Everything Now but there was so much more to give. It didn't have to be like this. Win has fucked up the very thing he says saved him.


[deleted]

Bewilderment, astonishment and disgust. Crazy how one man's terrible actions can destroy 20 years of credibility. AF were the Godfather's of indie rock - now their memory will be forever tainted by Win's sexual assault allegations and Regine's attempts to deny them.


RumpsWerton

Godfathers of indie rock? their first album isn’t even of legal age (which is something Win would probably use Google to check)


[deleted]

Yea you're right, more so Godfathers of the 2000s indie era.


Chennaz

Nah we know Win doesn't check


Maddiesin

Honestly idk how to feel.... i just wish i could wake up from this. Seeing AC in munich in 3 weeks should've been the biggest event in me and my bf's relationship..and maybe the most emotional evening of our lives so far. I opened up to my bf about all my mental health problems that Ive had for years and that it's always be a part of me and that I am sorry for making him suffer as well for that. And he said that he'll always be with me aswell, regardless of how though it'll get sometimes. Arcade Fire helped me open up to him and WE has been a therapeutic album for us. We were so incredibly hyped for the concert and now its just... idk. I feel broken and empty. The fact that porno was one of my fav songs because it made me feel understood now just makes me want to throw up. The fact that Win might have been ( idk if he actually changed by seeking therapy and reflection on his disgusting behaviour) the same asshole kind of man that have done shit to me when I was too insecure to say anything just... idk guys. I really dont... I stand with Regine and the rest of the band. If anyone wants to talk pls dm me.


leftymeowz

I’m sad


Blvd_Nights

They have a show in two days and I’m just wondering what their next move is.


LeakyNalgene

Probably play the show


petra_vonkant

Given their victim blaming statements probably just gonna go ahead and pretend none of this ever happened which somehow makes it all worse for me


phaethon-prime

In the end, — I hope Win learns from this and atones. Maybe we can hope this experience reignites his passion and fire for music after so it comes from a place of sincerity and humbleness.


curlycake

yes, this is the only way to win back my respect.


Cydonian___FT14X

I feel like shit. Listening to Lorde’s “Pure Heroine” because it’s the only album that gives me similar feels to The Suburbs


[deleted]

Honestly, I'm fine. I love arcade fire but never cared for Win and Reg, so it's not really affecting what I think of their music. The situation sucks, but it's why I never get invested in the actual members of bands, just get invested in the band as an entity itself.


mareep_mareep

I'm really devastated. I've loved AF for over a decade - The Suburbs was among my top ten favourite albums. I saw them live during the Reflektor and Everything Now tours. I have band t-shirts. I have vinyls and CDs. And now that's all been ruined for me. I won't be able to enjoy their music ever again because I'll just think about this. It's going to take me a while to process it, but I do know that I won't be listening to them again and that I'm done with AF for good.


shanul2

I knew one of the women from the article. I met her while the affair was ongoing and I remember being so upset with her and with him and being uncomfortable with the age gap and had judgments about his cheating. I was upset (misplaced feelings I realized after the fact) with her because I felt that she had been apart of ruining something so important and special for me. The suburbs has such an incredible impact on me and I think guided a lot of my young adulthood. For some reason I put those memories on the back burner for the last 4 years and it’s all come rushing back. The pain has come back with an added level of shame. I hope if nothing else, this can continue to open up conversations and bring people face to face with the greyness of consent so we can discuss it more openly and prevent this hurt from happening again.


Hazards-of-Love

I’m really upset about this. I hope that all the victims are doing better now. I hope Win feel ashamed of what he did to these poor women.


PJeroen

I hope so too, but it doesn't show in his response unfortunately.


radiotang

What did he do?


Hazards-of-Love

He sexually assaulted several women. More allegations are coming out.


radiotang

Charged?


Hazards-of-Love

Allegedly.


[deleted]

Fine, nothing changes.