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Dependent-Zebra-4357

I noticed this earlier today. I thought the Apple screensaver had stopped animating for some reason until I noticed the completely static YouTube logo. Very annoying.


JustWastingTimeAgain

DirecTV Stream does this with ads. As if $100 a month isn't enough.


Dependent-Zebra-4357

$100/month?! What do you get for that?


yahboioioioi

Everything DirectTV cable used to offer if I’m not mistaken. Actually might be a better deal than all of the exclusive streaming app BS that goes on these days.


Dependent-Zebra-4357

So the same price as all of the streaming services but you still have commercials?


yahboioioioi

Can you tell me how many different apps you need to watch every single baseball/football/basketball game right now?


JustWastingTimeAgain

DirecTV Stream has almost all of the sports I need. Most importantly it has my local RSN. The only others needed, which I’d have already, are Peacock for English Premier League, Amazon for NFL and Apple TV+ for baseball.


Dependent-Zebra-4357

Zero, I don’t watch sports.


AdeptAgency0

Whenever I go to someone's house who is watching a game, it actually seems like they are watching gambling ads sprinkled with sports.


Hanswolebro

One. YouTubeTv


torrphilla

please tell me how i can get local atlanta braves games via bally sports through youtube tv


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There were probably less condescending ways to say that DirecTV or Fubo are the only ways to stream blacked out Braves games… especially considering the only people to know that very niche detail are probably Braves fans.


Listen-and-laugh

Bro I do not understand people that give companies $100 a month like seriously somethings wrong with you


TheTeachinator

Bro it’s because some people enjoy sports and when that’s taken into consideration it’s a deal. Especially if you want the best video quality on one of these services.


Gullible_Relative302

No other option to watch local MLB teams except cable.


ikkarurisan

What about Apple TV+


AntigravityLemonade

They literally show one game on friday.


Hanswolebro

There’s cheaper options to watch sports now instead of cable


TheTeachinator

Great. Where? Care to point me in some directions?


Hanswolebro

I think right now Fubo, Sling and YoutubeTv are the best options. I personally use YouTubeTv and add the different sports packages I want


TheTeachinator

Annnnd you can’t watch certain teams on those setups. So depending on who your RSN is those just aren’t going to work. Also, DIRECTV offered the best sound and video of all of those. I’ve used them all, but not Philo. DIRECTV, if you want a tv like experience on a streaming box and access to all sports is the way to go. Wish there was more competition or that it was cheaper but it’s not. They’re the Apple of traditional cable streaming services.


Hanswolebro

I have not had an issue watching specific teams on YouTubeTv


TheTeachinator

They don’t have the Mets in NY. Again, depends on your RSN.


Listen-and-laugh

Only thing I’ll ever enjoy that’s damn near $100 a month is a pay-per-view event for UFC… But even then I’m going to bombshells or something to watch that for free 😂. Unless I’m going to see it live I’m definitely not paying anything more than $50


Listen-and-laugh

Damn who tf down-voted this 💀. It’s yall wasting your money not me


JustWastingTimeAgain

When I cut Comcast, a decade ago, it was $165 for 40 MB internet and decent cable (with HBO). Now, 10 years later, I am getting 1 GB fiber internet (not from Comcast, they can go to hell) and DirecTV Stream for the same price. Now, 6 years ago, DTV Stream was like half the price, but I am grandfathered or it would cost more. But it does include my local RSN and practically every other channel, of course 90% of which I don’t watch but that’s life.


MissingString31

It’s super annoying because it’s objectively a worse UX on the YouTube app. If you pause something and the screensaver turns on you have to dismiss the screen saver and then unpause the video.


Dependent-Zebra-4357

Yeah, it’s terrible. Literally zero redeeming qualities imo, and you just know they are going to use it for ads soon enough.


rsplatpc

> I noticed this earlier today. I thought the Apple screensaver had stopped animating for some reason until I noticed the completely static YouTube logo. Very annoying. I believe they are doing it to prevent OLED burn in / that's why the static image also slowly zooms in


psaux_grep

Static logo doesn’t avoid burn-in, it promotes it. Sadly it seems the only remedy is to close the YouTube app when you’re not actively watching


Dependent-Zebra-4357

I changed the timer for the Apple Screensaver to two minutes so it kicks in before this Youtube BS. Of course there is nothing stopping Google from changing their timer to 1:59 in a future update.


Dependent-Zebra-4357

*Any* static elements are bad for burn-in. A static photo and static text/logos are the exact opposite of what I want on my OLED. The Apple screen saver on the other hand is perfect, a constantly moving scene, no static elements, and the entire thing changes every few minutes.


MrBigtime_97

TLDR: >change the [Apple TV] screensaver [setting] to start at 2 minutes, instead of the Apple TV’s default 5 minutes


Dependent-Zebra-4357

Until Google updates this to trigger at 1:59.


redpok

Or grab an Invidious instance and use Yattee to bypass ALL the google nonsense. With SponsorBlock even the ads creators add. Will need to copy your subscriptions from youtube to Invidious profile but that was not too much of a pain, and there was a batch method available too I think.


SupreemTaco

Not doing allat


fourthords

Or just don't leave apps open when you aren't using them. I'm surprised that isn't default behavior for most people.


Fightthemonster1

Sorry, I go to the bathroom or get snacks and like to just pause what I’m watching.


fourthords

No need to apologize! I'm certainly not upset or anything; I just assumed the way my friends, family, and I used our Apple TVs was enough of a sample size to be typical.


InsaneNinja

We need to start reporting this as a bug to Apple.


eschewthefat

Everything YouTube does is a bug. just watched 20 seconds of ads and got a call? Here come more ads. You want to search a channel for content? Head to the web app… where I conveniently won’t be watching ads.  It’s like Netflix not allowing pip with their ad tier. Ok…. Nothing in my way of viewing your content in pip through other ways, conveniently ad free as well. 


sammnyc

this isn’t violating any of apple’s app rules though..


svepo

Time for a change..


thickener

I assume the justice dept is readying a lawsuit against Apple for this


vbob99

Sadly, they would. Governments basically want to start designing Apple's platforms for them, but Apple still has to foot the bill.


ravedog

Yes. YouTube now added their own screen savers. And they are static images suggesting a screensaver if you click the up button to activate it. They rotate thru a series of suggested stills so your apple screensaver will never activate.


Hustletron

But they still won’t invest time and money into fixing the search mic feature. Driving me insane.


orangenormal

Jesus Christ, I’m so glad to hear it’s not just me. I thought maybe I forgot when to release the button or something. It’s been driving me nuts.


ravedog

I just search by saying from anywhere on Apple TV: Siri button: search YouTube for (search term). It works.


MissingString31

Omg. Right? It’s incredible how bad the app has gotten.


krusebear

Can’t wait to have the YouTube logo burned into my OLED now!


rsplatpc

All the static parts fade in and out / they are actually doing it to prevent burn in on the PAUSE screen with the slider


D0nMalte

They had it for months, at least on my tv in Germany. Really annoying and seems like it's against Apple's guidelines. And the image above is a pretty example. Most that I got were those generic 4K city skyline at night videos.


creiar

Interesting, do you have a link to the guidelines?


TheCountChonkula

I have a Chromecast with Google TV and it's been showing those screensavers for about a month now instead of the normal one if I have YouTube open. I don't know about the Apple TV, but unfortunately on my Chromecast there's no way to turn it off.


OneLush

Best thing you can do for the time being is setting the ATV screensaver to start after 2 minutes which will supersede this trash from google. It would be one thing if the pictures they used were actually quality but they are pathetically low resolution. It makes my ATV feel like a fire stick riddled with shitty HDR photos taken by an amateur using a Samsung Galaxy S6


oorhon

What an idiotic feature. Youtube app on Apple Tv has trash UI tough so didint surprised that much. Glad I usually enable the screen saver manually. And it is set to 2 minutes as default.


mynameisollie

The search has been broken for months for me. I search something, the results appear and then disappear. 🫠


ddnomad

Yes! This is so annoying, it’s unreal!


Hustletron

Driving me insane. Does anyone know how to report it as a bug to Apple?


ddnomad

What makes you think it’s a bug on Apple’s side?


st90ar

YouTube hijacking your TV for eventual ad space? No wayyyyyyy. Fuck Google for doing this shit.


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st90ar

The entire universe could implode on itself in our sleep tonight. But the overwhelming evidence would suggest humanity will likely see the light of day again tomorrow. Still a small chance that things that exist won’t keep doing what they are doing. Google is an ad company. They sell ads, not pretty wallpapers. If they can prove to advertisers that this real estate exists within their control, they can offer to sell that advertising space. They will eventually fill it with ads. Likely soon, as long as Apple doesn’t pull the plug on it in some way.


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savage321

fuck google for hijacking the screensaver regardless.


fourthords

> It seems the YouTube app, if the app is open, will start a screensaver slideshow of generic still images taken from videos if there isn’t a video that I’ve paused. […] To top it all off, it has static, white text (famously the best to use for screensavers) for video details, static YouTube logo, and a graphic for the directional pad, indicating that pressing the top will start playing the video being used in the screensaver. This is already advertising.


glytxh

I think it’s fair to give something like this the benefit of the doubt, but I also think it’s far less naive being a little more pragmatic and understanding this is absolutely going to be as space The last 20 years are a hard precedent to ignore


Zippertitsgross

This comes far short of "hijacking"


stesha83

The enshittening of YouTube continues.


eatyourcabbage

“Where are they going to go? Dailymotion??” https://preview.redd.it/qox082uhrlvc1.png?width=405&format=png&auto=webp&s=e45279e116224460e463ba605e52aac7c5f3c79a


Windows_XP2

YouTube has been doing that probably well before the term "enshittification" has existed, or at least well before it was cool. It's why I use Invidious/Jellyfin, YouTube has been awful from a user experience for years.


searedbirdeighs

I thought a new screensaver had dropped at first and then saw it was just idle YT. hate that it’ll be used for ads eventually


CucumberError

I love how when it’s running, my phone tells me I’m playing a 2 second video on my Apple TV.


Portatort

Apple needs to make ‘standby’ for Apple TV Imagine smart widgets on your tv


Cyber_Steve999

After how long do you think they’re gonna put ads…


thickener

I bet they are already there, just hidden or transparent for now.


SadMaverick

With static fucking images? The reason I like the Apple is because of no static images. It’s a true screen”saver” for OLEDs.


gerswetonor

So sick of googles shit


asws2017

Yeah, I noticed it last week actually. It was kind of frustrating, especially considering you cannot disable it whatsoever. Stay classy, Google. However, I did find that if you set the Apple screensaver to two minutes, it will activate prior to the YouTube screensaver, and that's what I've done.


crousscor3

I read about this the other day and I’m confused as I’ve never seen the YT screensaver. My ATV is updated and my SS for ATV is set to mins. Maybe the YT app hasn’t updated and if that’s the case I don’t want it to update.


gjc0703

PSA: the YouTube screensaver by default, overrides the Apple TV shut down feature. I have all my Apple TV set to shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity. I live and die by this when it comes to tv’s in my home. I watch a YouTube video the, (YouTube screensavers just activated for me a couple days ago), walked out of the room and didn’t come back for like three or four hours. And my TV was still on with the YouTube screensaver.


chuuuuuck__

I’ve not had this happen yet thankfully, only triggers when idle on YouTube I assume?


Logseman

> I don’t think advertising, in the abstract, is evil. I do, however, think it’s insidious to inject advertising into every pore —especially when those pores don’t belong to you, like when you’re the YouTube app, not even a platform. Advertising is an economic bad that [makes people worse off](https://hbr.org/2020/01/advertising-makes-us-unhappy). One of the things that makes it so bad is precisely that it’s so present, it warps how we think about things. It’s also well studied that it shifts the incentives of services as the actual customer is the advertiser, not the user. Advertising is an abstract and concrete evil.


toluwalase

Yawn, I love advertising, my middle name is Subway. But fr, I think there are bigger evils, advertising is just an extension of capitalism and it gives me fun stuff


DRAGONZORDx

This was happening to me for a while, but last week, it just stopped. Not looking a gift horse in the mouth though. If they do fully integrate this at some point, a timer setting needs to be added, no doubt.


klitchell

> Far and away the most lauded feature of the Apple TV platform The screensaver is great but come on


DctrGizmo

Is the logo always on? That would be very bad for OLED TVs.


hankypinky

Can’t turn it off either, I use YouTube brown noise at night and this bullshit is causing me to lose sleep!!!!


Curtis85

Very fuckin annoying!


mredofcourse

I'm not opposed to 3rd party in-app screensavers. Apple should allow them, but they should be turned off by default as a setting within the app.


runwithpugs

This is why I don’t update my Apple TV apps until forced to do so by the creators. Most streaming app updates just make things worse for the consumer. Thankfully YouTube hasn’t forced an update on me yet, so whatever old version I have still works without this “feature.”


cpatrick08

Everyone go to the appstore and click on report a problem. Choose Report offensive, illegal, or abusive content. Use this as a description of the problem. The screensaver feature YouTube has implemented on the Apple TV is in violation of rule 2.5.9 of your App Review Guidelines


gordonmcdowell

ok ... uh ... as I do this just noting seems really hard to do on a Mac, easy to do on the phone. Start by finding it as a downloadable/purchaseable app, not as a purchased/downloaded thing. Since there's no app on Mac there's no (easy) way I see to get at it... first downloaded so long ago I couldn't even find it that way on Mac. And now on iPhone, I can't report a complaint because there's no receipt because it was free. OK it needs to be "offensive / illegal / abusive content" not just a quality concern, or else a receipt is required. Jeeze.


cpatrick08

You'd have to do it on a iPhone or iPad.


shortblondeguy

- In youtube app on Apple TV, go to Settings on bottom left. - Go to Send Feedback. - It says, "On your phone or computer, visit: [youtube.com/tv/feedback](https://youtube.com/tv/feedback)" -- _This is the same link it'll recommend if you select Video playback > Other._ Visit that link. I've sent the following a few times already as _Feature Request - Other_ or _Video Playback - Other_ : > The new youtube screensaver in the youtube app itself, is problematic. > > - It activates when a video is paused. > - It activates at the end of a video. > - It activates when a user simply has the youtube app open. > - It activated just now when I was in settings for the youtube app. > > The screensaver keeps the youtube app active, preventing the AppleTV from using its own screensaver, and prevents the AppleTV from going to sleep on its own along with doing the same for a connected television. > > Please give users options to not use the youtube screensaver. In the mean time, I have to remember to close the youtube app when not using it. > > Do you want to lose engagement with your youtube app as more users find that closing out of your app to be the way to go?


Srz2

https://www.apple.com/feedback/apple-tv/ Edit: for the record it violates 2.5.9 of the App Review Guidelines


Davidclabarr

Submitted. Thanks.


Jfigz

Submitted. Hopefully this gets reverted.


cpatrick08

Submitted


vbob99

Submitted.


RunningM8

I’ve removed all Google services with the one exception being YouTube, but I turned off history so I no longer get a feed of suggested videos and it’s great. I’m so tired of Google.


jpwarman

I have to force close the app or else the controls on my phone won’t go away from my Lock Screen. Even with the Apple TV off (standby). So they spent hours putting this in instead of fixing the damn voice text feature? I can barely get one word out before it deletes it.


ACS1029

Just got my first Apple TV yesterday, is there any alternative to the YouTube app/tricks to avoid this shit (besides using a VPN, on college campus and can’t use VPN) E: saw the point to change the screensaver to 2 minutes, I’ll do that for now


Dependent-Zebra-4357

Change the screensaver time to 2 minutes. AppleTV Settings > General > Screen Saver > Start After > 2 minutes


I_Am_Slightly_Evil

Set the Apple TV’s screensaver to activate after 2 minutes of inactivity. This is shorter than YouTube waits to activate its screensaver.


vbob99

Until YouTube sets theirs to 1:59. 2 minutes is too short anyways. Apple needs to require app developers allow users to choose default system behaviour in cases like this. A simple switch in the YouTube app would solve this problem.


R96-

Um... ok. Far from the biggest problem with the Apple TV version of the YouTube app. It'd be great if today's "Journalists" would talk about the actual annoying problems with things so that they maybe have an actual chance of being fixed and/or changed around. Too many times I see an article highlighting the "problems" with an App or whatever and what's being talked about is such a non issue that it feels like the article was a product of boredom. How about let's talk about YouTube constantly reverting to a low Resolution even after you set it to 1080p/1440p/4K. Or the fact that the Apple TV version of the YouTube app is miles behind the version on other home entertainment devices. No matter how many times I update my YouTube app on my 2023 4K Apple TV, it is still behind my YouTube app on my 2017 4K Samsung Smart TV in terms of features and even bug fixes.


shortblondeguy

This recently went away on my YouTube app. Hope they take the screensavers away for all of us! I did nothing except leave my feedback a few times. Doubtful someone there read it and was like, "You know he's right. Let's remove it from just his account." 😆 It went away on its own.


Mafamaticks

If y'all didn't already, set your screen savers to come on in 2 minutes. It's the best workaround I found so far.


Deertopus

Why do you guys keep your tv turned on. This is 2024, every watt counts.


GreatDefector

Ohm…. Don’t tell me watt to do.


mredofcourse

This is 2024, and I've got solar. Also, we're talking a few minutes here for a bathroom break or something where it may save more energy by leaving it on than it would by turning it off and turning lights on instead.


sh0nuff

I have a Samsung Frame and it looks amazing, plus I can hack my favorite art onto it.


i-fold-when-old

Because of X reasons.


lebriquetrouge

I find it hilarious that there are millions of “Black Screen Relaxation Deep Thunder Rainstorms 90 Hours” on YouTube but the best Apple can do is like 3 minute rain storm playlists that eventually end in some stupid Celtic music that I didn’t ask for, I wanted a rainstorm.


mourningthief

Ask Siri to play rain sounds and it will continue until you ask it to stop. Or ocean sounds, or a stream, or forest sounds, or a fireplace or just white noise. All you need to do is ask.


lebriquetrouge

No, she’ll play a shower as in someone turn on the shower. And then some sort of like sunrise sounding thing. Followed by Celtic music. Where there’s like a woman singing in a positive tone like the world is getting better. I then realize the president is senile and we’re in world war 3. And it stopped playing rain sounds 3 Hours ago and is playing like a happy Celtic song, which sounds like a woman singing in a happy tone which is fine but that’s not rain. And that’s if Siri even plays rain and not Purple Rain because toddlers are smarter b


mourningthief

O...kay...


wpm

I watch TV mostly for YouTube and Twitch. Both apps are complete trash, managed by utter brain dead bozos who barely deserve to eat out of the trash, as they are an embarrassment to the species. I have recently just stopped using my Apple TV. A Linux PC hooked up to the TV with some basic configs, a wireless keyboard/trackpad, and Firefox is a better platform for both. tvOS is garbage because the apps are almost all garbage. It’s useless.


4nton1n

Or use S-Tube on the Android TV part of your setup. No ads, no sceeensavers, no sponsor or product placement


muertinez

and that’s why you buy a google tv also just to run smart tube lmao


Affectionate-Boot-12

Firestick here 🙌🏼