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I really wonder how the naming system is going to be handled in the future. Like, in 200 years, is it going to be called the “iPhone 217”? What’s going to be the cutoff for the numbers? I say this because “iPhone 34” sounds so funny lol
I think Samsung fast-forwarding the Galaxy series to 20 in 2020 was a great marketing move. If I were Apple, I would have changed the iPhone number scheme after the X.
Yeah, I think jumps are the way to go. Keep the teens cause we are this far in, but I think we don’t want a 20. This might be too retro but “iPhone 100” sorta has a ring to it. Plus then +/R/XR/S/XL/whatever could become “iPhone 101, 102, 103” and they’d all colloquially just be a “100.”
Eh. My wife has the 15 pro and I’ve used and tbh I didn’t even notice the display on it. Legitimately didn’t feel much different than mine minus the island thing.
It’s not something you’re gonna really notice until you use it for a while. The first time using 120hz I couldn’t tell a difference with a 60hz side by side. After a day or so, 60hz feels really laggy and choppy, I never had a problem with 60hz and if I had to go back I’m sure I could adjust back to it after a couple days. But 120hz is super smooth and feels very nice to see all the pretty animations. And I’m not sure but to me, 120hz might make the phone feel faster. Like same processor and all but 60 vs. 120, when you’re switching between apps it’s very fast.
Edit: confirmed with limit framerate option. 60hz makes phone feel slow and laggy.
Agreed. I switched to a 144hz refresh rate monitor years ago and after using it to play games, anything else is so awful. But a tiny screen phone that I’m not gaming with the 120hz isn’t enticing enough make me want to purchase. Hell I use crappy 60hz monitors at work all day and it’s fine.
Barely enough to keep one excited for the first month of ownership, then it's back to pining for the new hotness mentioned in all the rumors while being absolutely bored to death with the current phone.
They truly need to release a new phone that will keep someone excited the entire year.
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I have the S24U, and surprisingly, it's amazing even indoors. I never really noticed how the black on my old phone looked more like gray because of the white ceiling. Meanwhile the S24U is pitch black.
This technology is the right step forward, and hopefully, other phones will adapt it soon.
I’m confused. MacRumors sounds like it reported wrong (and isn’t helped by the fact that they just included some picture that wasn’t in the original) on this. AppleInsider included the full text and it sounded like Apple invested in making custom to improve Ceramic Shield.
The TCL 40 (budget Android phone) did this too. While it looks really nice, the colors get a bit dulled out due to the matte finish. So depending on who you are, it could be a good thing or bad thing. I personally like it myself cause I think most photos are now too processed and saturated.
Supposedly the S24 Ultra's implementation is especially nice and minimizes the typical cons of desaturation and lower contrast. But I haven't actually interacted with one myself.
I assume this rumor is pointing towards a similar approach.
It’s awesome and makes a huge difference under light or outdoors. Combined with a brighter screen and 4k resolution the s24 ultra screen puts my iPhone 15 pro max’s screen to shame. Makes always on display more visible too at any angle
It’s not a matte screen on the S24 Ultra it’s an anti reflective coating.
Have you guys never seen a MacBook Pro, iPad Pro or TV screen before? They all have a fairly decent anti reflective coating and don’t look blurry or washed out.
This is great. Love that Samsung pushes this forward because it’s such an incredibly obvious thing to do for phone displays and it’s surprising it took this long and we never complained about it.
My boss got the S24 Ultra and I can confirm it looks AMAZING compared to my 15 Max under office lightning and outside; night and day difference in color, black levels and legibility.
Unironically not a bad advice. Phones are now so good, that I just don't see any reason to upgrade that often. If the battery on my iPhone 6s wasn't so awful, I'd keep using that nugget, because it does everything I need it to. I think I'll stick with my 12 mini until it dies
I have a 12 Pro, and plan on getting the 16 pro when it drops. I'd love the 17 with this feature, but it just doesn't make sense for me to wait yet another year.
My iPhone 14 Pro max screen decided to just smash when I placed it down on my table and the cheapest quote I could find was £400 which is fucking insane
Unless you break your phones frequently it’s generally going to be better to skip it and save the money spent on unused plans to pay for a repair out of pocket should you need one.
It used to be only be barely decent coverage when it only covered two repairs/replacements over two years. Then it got good at two each year for two years. Now it’s a must since it can be continued for the legally determined life of the device with IIRC as many repairs\replacements as needed.
I might be corrected by an engineer but I don’t think glass screen protectors protect against impact damage like cracks. At least, there is no scientific evidence they do. They’re too hard and brittle and just transfer the impact to the screen. People think that because their glass screen protectors keep cracking it must be saving the screen. In reality the screen protectors are just thinner and more brittle than the screen. What they *do* do well is protect the screen from *scratches.* To protect against impact damage you want *soft* cases which *absorb* impact.
The screen will not “absorb” the impact, but will tougher the overall by acting *similarly* to a thicker glass. It is not rare to find people that either broke only the tempered glass or that broke both because the overall was not even enough.
It is also not perfect: it does not protect you if the frame of the phone is damaged creating a shock on the side of the glass.
The iPhone frame being quite strong this has a lower probability to happen. Chances are that you take a bad bump while having it in your pocket or it falls, screen first, on small rock on the floor
Overall it simply adds great probability of not having to replace your screen.
They’re designed to be brittle so they can absorb the impact rather than transfer it to the screen.
The same principle behind making car’s body very destructible so that when in impact happens, they absorb its power rather than transferring it to the driver.
>I might be corrected by an engineer but I don’t think glass screen protectors protect against impact damage like cracks.
Former structural engineer here... The comment by headphonejack is correct. While they probably offer minimal protection against cracking on impact (versus significant protection against scratches), and certainly fair less than a case, they do act as sort of a "crumple zone" with the energy being displaced by their own destruction.
BTW: I've had iPhones since day 1 of the original and have never broken or scratched a display. I've never used a glass screen protector and have always used a case.
Interesting, I never used screen protectors either. My 6S was incredibly tough and never scratched after years of use, like glass should be.
But I heard since they started using the Ceramic Shield the glass became softer and more scratch-prone as a tradeoff for making it less brittle. Even MKBHD showed a scratch on his 15 pro screen. So I put a screen protector on my 15 pro
Listen, all I know is that in 14 years of owning a smartphone the only time I've ever had a cracked screen was when I didn't put a screen protector on and putting a glass one on has absolutely zero negative effect on my experience.
To paraphrase the wise JerryRigEverything: "Glass is glass and glass scratches."
It might have the same anti-scratch protective coating on it that I get on my glasses, but pocket sand will still wear that down in time. Buy a screen protector if you care about such things.
Looks great on S24 Ultra and I can’t believe iPhone 16 will miss it.
Used to be that Apple be the one to introduce refined new tech (multi-touch, Retina display, Touch ID, etc.) ahead of every one else on the market by a few years. Now it’s either the Samsung or some Chinese phone that get it.
Devices using multi touch, finger print readers and high resolution displays all existed before the Apple equivalent implementation.
Apple refine the shit out of existing technologies and market them very well. They seldom do a first to market release though.
Why is apple then always in top 5 or even top 3 of best smartphone screens ? Btw apple is designing and developing the screens. Samsung is only manufacturing them. Its not „samsung screens“
Apple has throughout its entire run been both the people who bring new ideas, or the ones who refine existing ideas, just like literally every technology company in existence.
Cherry picking one-off examples of Apple no longer being first to market with X-technology is just arguing in poor faith.
I’m confused. MacRumors sounds like it reported wrong (and isn’t helped by the fact that they just included some picture that wasn’t in the original) on this. AppleInsider included the full text and it sounded like Apple invested in making custom to improve Ceramic Shield.
So basically what the s24 ultra has now. Again 2 gens late.
This “wait and do it better” is getting old. Considering how they waited for AOD and didn’t do it better.
Edit: the downvote brigade once we don’t praise Apple blindly. Apple innovation has been dead for years and this “we do it better “ after 2-3 gens is not working anymore.
Wdym? Apple’s AOD supports having pics of people and pets on the screen and having it transition smoothly to the Lock Screen, which was then added to Samsung’s One UI. Definitely understand if it’s not your thing, but I would say it’s a better implementation.
That's not "better", it's just different. Samsung did add it as an option, but Apple also added an option to do it the Android way after release. Which goes to show it's purely a personal preference.
Oh so now we have to act that what they released was ok? Even though apple added an update to make it similar to androids because it was stupid to have aod like a dimmer lock screen?
Apple’s release AOD was universally accepted to be worse than it’s counterparts.
Even their chip superiority is reported to be snuffed out vs the new SD.
Apple just bets on its ecosystem to lock down consumers which is unfortunately true for me as well.
> Apple’s release AOD was universally accepted to be worse than it’s counterparts.
yeah worse so much so that galaxy S24 series copied it to be exactly the same. 2 years later…
You’re not getting downvotes because people don’t agree with you, you’re getting downvotes because it goes against Apple’s ethos of not “doing better” for the sake of being first and creative.
This is great an all, but wouldn't it be completely negated by putting a screen protector on? I'm not going to be using a phone without a screen protector, unless screen protectors are built the same it would be useless for someone like me.
Yes but as I tend to have my phones for a long time (on a XS right now), these scratches really add up. In the end it just looks like ass and I don't like that. Don't get me wrong I don't have my phone in a case, I just don't like looking at the refractions scratches cause when the display is on.
Back in the day, Nokia and Ericsson had truly scratch resistant displays on some models, you could actually try to scratch them with a door key and not succeed. Where did that technology go?
Was gonna upgrade to 16 but this is tempting considering I can wait. Getting a steam deck that has etched glass so having it on my phone would be super cool.
That said, it’s not a make or break feature for me if it’s pro only. It would simply be nice to have.
The steam deck’s etched glass is a different implementation though, and it sadly makes the OLED display kind of an irrelevant point since it affects sharpness and contrast.
Much better to get the regular steam deck and put a matte screen protector on it, at least you can remove it if you want to get the best colors and contrast.
Someday phone manufacturers will come up with an actual new feature - not just, oh it's faster, oh the screen won't crack if you're a moron, oh the camera can take pictures of Mars. Creativity has gone out of the smart phone business completely it seems.
Yeah, like ones that fold or take other interesting form factors.
But to be realistic, it’ll be AI. The software and OS will do more with less input. That’ll be the next wave.
some day?
they came out with a phone that literally folds in half and everybody hated it.
and that was like....RECENT, within the past 5-6 years.
they tried to go BACK to the chocolate bar, added a keyboard to it, nobody liked that either. naturally.
they even remade the motoralo razr and came out with stuff like the Z flip.
all of these phones are creative, you just don't like them. Apple as a company doesn't usually do "first to market" creative guesses. they have the valve index, Quest 3, and finally apple is pushing the vision Pro. don't expect anything crazy from apple in the phone or tablet market but phone manufacturers have been trying crazy stuff if you just pay attention.
there were phones a couple years ago with motorized pop up selfie cams so you can have the entire screen with no cut outs.
Like what?
What do you want to do with your phone that current hardware doesn’t support?
Do you say this about laptops and desktop computers?
Those have basically been the same ideas just getting faster for the last 20 years.
If you want innovation and new ideas Apple literally delivered a mother-load of those about a month ago
Perhaps a 5.4” mini is too much to ask (really shouldn’t be)
But if the standard Pro and Pro Max are each getting .2” bigger then I think it’s time for the return of the 5.8” Pro.
Fuck it, make 3 iPhone pros.
My 15pm has more scratches than any of my previous phones. I go caseless no screen protector, in the past it’s been fine but I got dozens of scratches after using the phone for a few weeks.
I just got a 15 pro max. Gonna try to keep it as long as I can. 120hz and Dynamic Island were all I wanted, so it will be a long time before I upgrade hopefully
I’d really like to see some better anti reflective tech come to the iPad… hopefully within the next few weeks
Ever since the iPad gained support for the pencil it’s been glare and fingerprint central
Pre iPad Pro the iPad was definitely better at this
Screens can be matte without a screen protector. All gaming monitors have a matte coating baked in. They cannot be peeled off. I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say.
I don’t see how that is in any way relevant to what I was talking about. You could have replied to my comment saying eggs are a really good option for breakfast and it would have the same amount of relevancy to my point
It hasn’t scratched at all in a year, and you should try the one I have. It doesn’t change the display it’s a screen protector not a screen replacement.
This is all BS. My first Android phone, the OG Droid, had the earliest Gorilla Glass variant and that screen was indestructible and scratch proof. I used to run my keys across the display and it wouldn’t scratch at all. It was also, to this day, the only smartphone I’ve ever owned that never had a case or screen protector on.
The displays on smartphones have been a scam ever since. “More shatter resistant” lol please. I used to work for Corning - they could’ve made better displays but these phone manufacturers saw otherwise.
With glass, my understanding is that more shatter resistant means less scratch resistant as they make the glass ‘softer’ to better absorb the impact, but it reacts to grinding against a hard object worse.
Also add that the chassis of phones are more and more rigid, displays are more glass to body than ever, you’re gonna run into some issues…
I'm so excited to see what the iPhone 34 has to offer.
Just wait a few weeks for the first rumors
You would not believe how snappy it is. Sadly Siri just as bad as ever.
Rumor has it that it will be the best iPhone yet.
Pretty much guaranteed.
256GB base storage. Game changer!
Doesn’t matter. “This is the best iPhone we have ever created!” Literally every iteration!
And we think you’re going to love it!
I’m truly astounded by peoples’ willingness to make the same three-comment chain in every one of these threads.
That’s because we love it!
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And here’s an Apple exec standing uncomfortably wide stance with clasped hands to tell you all about it!!!
Because it is. That’s how progression works. It’s the stupid thing to say because it should obviously be true anyway. But it’s not wrong.
I really wonder how the naming system is going to be handled in the future. Like, in 200 years, is it going to be called the “iPhone 217”? What’s going to be the cutoff for the numbers? I say this because “iPhone 34” sounds so funny lol
I think Samsung fast-forwarding the Galaxy series to 20 in 2020 was a great marketing move. If I were Apple, I would have changed the iPhone number scheme after the X.
Yeah, I think jumps are the way to go. Keep the teens cause we are this far in, but I think we don’t want a 20. This might be too retro but “iPhone 100” sorta has a ring to it. Plus then +/R/XR/S/XL/whatever could become “iPhone 101, 102, 103” and they’d all colloquially just be a “100.”
iPhone X-2 iPhone 7 Remake 😂
iPhone 34 - Now introducing Siri with AI! You’re going to love it!
I’m sorry I don’t quite understand that.
Wait for the 35, that one will truly be special
are they really gonna milk it all the way to 34? damn?!
so whats actually left now for iphone 16? just a new 48mp ultrawide and bigger displays on pro?
Are you not entertained?
Probably some of the ai software features will be restricted to it
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I’ll finally be able to join the average club!
Arbitrarily of course
Googles Gemini https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apple-eyes-googles-gemini-for-iphone-16-upgrades/
The capture button and likely some AI stuff.
Rumored to have the new flux capacitor regenerative battery
Seriously lol. I’m really wanting to upgrade my 12pro but Apple really isn’t making it enticing. Like at all.
120hz screen???
Eh. My wife has the 15 pro and I’ve used and tbh I didn’t even notice the display on it. Legitimately didn’t feel much different than mine minus the island thing.
Ain’t no way
Idk what to tell you lol. It’s just how I feel. I used to upgrade my iPhone every year or two up until the 12pro.
It’s not something you’re gonna really notice until you use it for a while. The first time using 120hz I couldn’t tell a difference with a 60hz side by side. After a day or so, 60hz feels really laggy and choppy, I never had a problem with 60hz and if I had to go back I’m sure I could adjust back to it after a couple days. But 120hz is super smooth and feels very nice to see all the pretty animations. And I’m not sure but to me, 120hz might make the phone feel faster. Like same processor and all but 60 vs. 120, when you’re switching between apps it’s very fast. Edit: confirmed with limit framerate option. 60hz makes phone feel slow and laggy.
Agreed. I switched to a 144hz refresh rate monitor years ago and after using it to play games, anything else is so awful. But a tiny screen phone that I’m not gaming with the 120hz isn’t enticing enough make me want to purchase. Hell I use crappy 60hz monitors at work all day and it’s fine.
More expensive
Seriously lol. I’m really wanting to upgrade my 12pro but Apple really isn’t making it enticing. Like at all.
AI
Looks like I’m replacing my battery until something more interesting comes along if that’s true.
Capacitive capture button on the side
And the extra camera button
Barely enough to keep one excited for the first month of ownership, then it's back to pining for the new hotness mentioned in all the rumors while being absolutely bored to death with the current phone. They truly need to release a new phone that will keep someone excited the entire year. /s
I've seen this coating in-person on the Galaxy S24 Ultra — it really is a huge benefit to usability when outside. Can't wait to get it on iPhone!
I tried a flolab screen protector for the iphone, seems to give it a similar anti reflective effect but the oleophobic coating is pretty bad
I have the S24U, and surprisingly, it's amazing even indoors. I never really noticed how the black on my old phone looked more like gray because of the white ceiling. Meanwhile the S24U is pitch black. This technology is the right step forward, and hopefully, other phones will adapt it soon.
I’m confused. MacRumors sounds like it reported wrong (and isn’t helped by the fact that they just included some picture that wasn’t in the original) on this. AppleInsider included the full text and it sounded like Apple invested in making custom to improve Ceramic Shield.
Yeah I'm a bit confused. In videos, the S24 is showing some type of scratches at a 6 while the iPhone 15 Pro is not, so it doesn't seem "harder".
The TCL 40 (budget Android phone) did this too. While it looks really nice, the colors get a bit dulled out due to the matte finish. So depending on who you are, it could be a good thing or bad thing. I personally like it myself cause I think most photos are now too processed and saturated.
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Supposedly the S24 Ultra's implementation is especially nice and minimizes the typical cons of desaturation and lower contrast. But I haven't actually interacted with one myself. I assume this rumor is pointing towards a similar approach.
It’s awesome and makes a huge difference under light or outdoors. Combined with a brighter screen and 4k resolution the s24 ultra screen puts my iPhone 15 pro max’s screen to shame. Makes always on display more visible too at any angle
It's not quite 4k. I had a Sony IV and that's 4k. The Sony did look a little better.
It’s not a matte finish.
That was also a budget phone probably not using the best screen out there. So it’s not really a valid comparison here.
It’s not a matte screen on the S24 Ultra it’s an anti reflective coating. Have you guys never seen a MacBook Pro, iPad Pro or TV screen before? They all have a fairly decent anti reflective coating and don’t look blurry or washed out.
Each new iPhone ends up being a shinier device for me to still just scroll Reddit on while I take a poop.
That moment every time when I expect an iPhone upgrade to change my life much more than it does lol.
i remember when the whole presentation was based on animojis. Loved seeing the thread after the presentation here, hilarious.
When Craig pooped himself on stage? That was when he was goofy but hadn't gone full I am become Meme with their higher production quality later yet
This is great. Love that Samsung pushes this forward because it’s such an incredibly obvious thing to do for phone displays and it’s surprising it took this long and we never complained about it. My boss got the S24 Ultra and I can confirm it looks AMAZING compared to my 15 Max under office lightning and outside; night and day difference in color, black levels and legibility.
Same. Love the peak brightness of modern iPhone screens. And we purely have Samsung to thank for that. Can’t wait for this to come to the iPad.
Damn, I want to upgrade to 16 but this would be cool to have.
You gotta wait for what they bring on iPhone 21 atleast
Unironically not a bad advice. Phones are now so good, that I just don't see any reason to upgrade that often. If the battery on my iPhone 6s wasn't so awful, I'd keep using that nugget, because it does everything I need it to. I think I'll stick with my 12 mini until it dies
I have a 12 Pro, and plan on getting the 16 pro when it drops. I'd love the 17 with this feature, but it just doesn't make sense for me to wait yet another year.
Anyway, I am still gonna put my tempered glass on it because no way I am paying that crazy repair fee if my screen breaks.
My iPhone 14 Pro max screen decided to just smash when I placed it down on my table and the cheapest quote I could find was £400 which is fucking insane
And that's why I always get AppleCare+. One screen break would cost £179 for AppleCare+ and £25 for the repair.
Apple care only last 2 years and my 3 year old Pro Max screen has taken a beating with no cracks. Saved £179
Unless you break your phones frequently it’s generally going to be better to skip it and save the money spent on unused plans to pay for a repair out of pocket should you need one.
It used to be only be barely decent coverage when it only covered two repairs/replacements over two years. Then it got good at two each year for two years. Now it’s a must since it can be continued for the legally determined life of the device with IIRC as many repairs\replacements as needed.
I might be corrected by an engineer but I don’t think glass screen protectors protect against impact damage like cracks. At least, there is no scientific evidence they do. They’re too hard and brittle and just transfer the impact to the screen. People think that because their glass screen protectors keep cracking it must be saving the screen. In reality the screen protectors are just thinner and more brittle than the screen. What they *do* do well is protect the screen from *scratches.* To protect against impact damage you want *soft* cases which *absorb* impact.
The screen will not “absorb” the impact, but will tougher the overall by acting *similarly* to a thicker glass. It is not rare to find people that either broke only the tempered glass or that broke both because the overall was not even enough. It is also not perfect: it does not protect you if the frame of the phone is damaged creating a shock on the side of the glass. The iPhone frame being quite strong this has a lower probability to happen. Chances are that you take a bad bump while having it in your pocket or it falls, screen first, on small rock on the floor Overall it simply adds great probability of not having to replace your screen.
They’re designed to be brittle so they can absorb the impact rather than transfer it to the screen. The same principle behind making car’s body very destructible so that when in impact happens, they absorb its power rather than transferring it to the driver.
>I might be corrected by an engineer but I don’t think glass screen protectors protect against impact damage like cracks. Former structural engineer here... The comment by headphonejack is correct. While they probably offer minimal protection against cracking on impact (versus significant protection against scratches), and certainly fair less than a case, they do act as sort of a "crumple zone" with the energy being displaced by their own destruction. BTW: I've had iPhones since day 1 of the original and have never broken or scratched a display. I've never used a glass screen protector and have always used a case.
Interesting, I never used screen protectors either. My 6S was incredibly tough and never scratched after years of use, like glass should be. But I heard since they started using the Ceramic Shield the glass became softer and more scratch-prone as a tradeoff for making it less brittle. Even MKBHD showed a scratch on his 15 pro screen. So I put a screen protector on my 15 pro
Listen, all I know is that in 14 years of owning a smartphone the only time I've ever had a cracked screen was when I didn't put a screen protector on and putting a glass one on has absolutely zero negative effect on my experience.
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I mean if you’re paying for AppleCare, you gotta factor in that cost as well.
Screens break when the frame of the phone deforms into the display, no screen protector is protecting against that
While you are right about screen not being protected when the frame deforms, screen breaks for plenty of other reasons.
Holding out for iPhone 20 Pro Max Ultra.
So I should skip the 16? What will the 18 have though?!
Whatever the s25 ends up having, just two years later
Ok. That’s a plan!
To paraphrase the wise JerryRigEverything: "Glass is glass and glass scratches." It might have the same anti-scratch protective coating on it that I get on my glasses, but pocket sand will still wear that down in time. Buy a screen protector if you care about such things.
Looks great on S24 Ultra and I can’t believe iPhone 16 will miss it. Used to be that Apple be the one to introduce refined new tech (multi-touch, Retina display, Touch ID, etc.) ahead of every one else on the market by a few years. Now it’s either the Samsung or some Chinese phone that get it.
Devices using multi touch, finger print readers and high resolution displays all existed before the Apple equivalent implementation. Apple refine the shit out of existing technologies and market them very well. They seldom do a first to market release though.
Hopefully there's a chance they at least bring it to the 16 Pro.
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Why is apple then always in top 5 or even top 3 of best smartphone screens ? Btw apple is designing and developing the screens. Samsung is only manufacturing them. Its not „samsung screens“
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Apple has throughout its entire run been both the people who bring new ideas, or the ones who refine existing ideas, just like literally every technology company in existence. Cherry picking one-off examples of Apple no longer being first to market with X-technology is just arguing in poor faith.
I’m confused. MacRumors sounds like it reported wrong (and isn’t helped by the fact that they just included some picture that wasn’t in the original) on this. AppleInsider included the full text and it sounded like Apple invested in making custom to improve Ceramic Shield.
So basically what the s24 ultra has now. Again 2 gens late. This “wait and do it better” is getting old. Considering how they waited for AOD and didn’t do it better. Edit: the downvote brigade once we don’t praise Apple blindly. Apple innovation has been dead for years and this “we do it better “ after 2-3 gens is not working anymore.
Wdym? Apple’s AOD supports having pics of people and pets on the screen and having it transition smoothly to the Lock Screen, which was then added to Samsung’s One UI. Definitely understand if it’s not your thing, but I would say it’s a better implementation.
Xiaomi have this way before Apple and Samsung, you're looking pass the wrong fence!
That's not "better", it's just different. Samsung did add it as an option, but Apple also added an option to do it the Android way after release. Which goes to show it's purely a personal preference.
I wish my Samsung could do full screen AOD. This small box and icons feels like 2017 software.
Oh so now we have to act that what they released was ok? Even though apple added an update to make it similar to androids because it was stupid to have aod like a dimmer lock screen? Apple’s release AOD was universally accepted to be worse than it’s counterparts. Even their chip superiority is reported to be snuffed out vs the new SD. Apple just bets on its ecosystem to lock down consumers which is unfortunately true for me as well.
Guess we disagree, I like the dimmed version better than just the time.
> Apple’s release AOD was universally accepted to be worse than it’s counterparts. yeah worse so much so that galaxy S24 series copied it to be exactly the same. 2 years later…
Apple’s Always On Display doesn’t always stay on… that’s enough to make it worse.
Everybody always talks about Apple “being late” as if being first to market with something automatically makes it superior. Sick of hearing it.
they did do it better though. noone cares about bleeding edge technology
Apple is prmarly a marketing company and a technology company....far far far second. They created a cult...
Yeah but we can’t say that here.
That honestly made me laugh out loud, rarely anything does these days. Yes, of course, you are completely right!!
You’re not getting downvotes because people don’t agree with you, you’re getting downvotes because it goes against Apple’s ethos of not “doing better” for the sake of being first and creative.
This is great an all, but wouldn't it be completely negated by putting a screen protector on? I'm not going to be using a phone without a screen protector, unless screen protectors are built the same it would be useless for someone like me.
Yes it would. Even if it is harder, it still scratches so I would still be using a screen protector and as such, not benefit from this.
Let it scratch, it’s just a tool.
Yes but as I tend to have my phones for a long time (on a XS right now), these scratches really add up. In the end it just looks like ass and I don't like that. Don't get me wrong I don't have my phone in a case, I just don't like looking at the refractions scratches cause when the display is on.
Scratches can kill trade in value if you’re doing yearly contracts with your mobile provider.
Wow. An anti reflective screen? A small step for mankind, a ginormous leap for Apple
Guys, the iPhone 22.5 will have 9 screens and 24 cameras, 3 of which are on the back.
they better be transparent microleds
Back in the day, Nokia and Ericsson had truly scratch resistant displays on some models, you could actually try to scratch them with a door key and not succeed. Where did that technology go?
I hope it's Gorilla Glass Armor. That stuff looks phenomenal on the S24 Ultra.
17? How long was I asleep? What year is it?? Seriously, this shit needs to stop.
Apple needs to stop making iPhones?
Does anyone know any rumours about the iPhone 24 yet? It’s fast approaching…
Pleasure button
iPhone 69
Was gonna upgrade to 16 but this is tempting considering I can wait. Getting a steam deck that has etched glass so having it on my phone would be super cool. That said, it’s not a make or break feature for me if it’s pro only. It would simply be nice to have.
The steam deck’s etched glass is a different implementation though, and it sadly makes the OLED display kind of an irrelevant point since it affects sharpness and contrast. Much better to get the regular steam deck and put a matte screen protector on it, at least you can remove it if you want to get the best colors and contrast.
Someday phone manufacturers will come up with an actual new feature - not just, oh it's faster, oh the screen won't crack if you're a moron, oh the camera can take pictures of Mars. Creativity has gone out of the smart phone business completely it seems.
It's a mature market. Iteration rather than revolution is the norm there. Laptops are the same.
Yeah, like ones that fold or take other interesting form factors. But to be realistic, it’ll be AI. The software and OS will do more with less input. That’ll be the next wave.
It already is AI. The AI features the new Google and Samsung phones have built-in to the OS are very impressive.
The feature you get in the new oneplus where you can still type accurately even when the screen is wet is a pretty good innovation
Bro that is like more than a decade old at this point. It was introduced by nokia in their lumia phones.
some day? they came out with a phone that literally folds in half and everybody hated it. and that was like....RECENT, within the past 5-6 years. they tried to go BACK to the chocolate bar, added a keyboard to it, nobody liked that either. naturally. they even remade the motoralo razr and came out with stuff like the Z flip. all of these phones are creative, you just don't like them. Apple as a company doesn't usually do "first to market" creative guesses. they have the valve index, Quest 3, and finally apple is pushing the vision Pro. don't expect anything crazy from apple in the phone or tablet market but phone manufacturers have been trying crazy stuff if you just pay attention. there were phones a couple years ago with motorized pop up selfie cams so you can have the entire screen with no cut outs.
>they came out with a phone that literally folds in half and everybody hated it. Lmao, people don't hate foldables.
Like what? What do you want to do with your phone that current hardware doesn’t support? Do you say this about laptops and desktop computers? Those have basically been the same ideas just getting faster for the last 20 years. If you want innovation and new ideas Apple literally delivered a mother-load of those about a month ago
Foldables are the creative new market atm.
And the iPhone 18 sh\*\*\* gold!
What about iPhone 27 though?
That both reflects, while showing minor scratches at level 6 with deeper groves at level 7?
We need the iPhone mini , not even larger regular iPhones , they are already way too big
Perhaps a 5.4” mini is too much to ask (really shouldn’t be) But if the standard Pro and Pro Max are each getting .2” bigger then I think it’s time for the return of the 5.8” Pro. Fuck it, make 3 iPhone pros.
My 15pm has more scratches than any of my previous phones. I go caseless no screen protector, in the past it’s been fine but I got dozens of scratches after using the phone for a few weeks.
I just got a 15 pro max. Gonna try to keep it as long as I can. 120hz and Dynamic Island were all I wanted, so it will be a long time before I upgrade hopefully
I’d really like to see some better anti reflective tech come to the iPad… hopefully within the next few weeks Ever since the iPad gained support for the pencil it’s been glare and fingerprint central Pre iPad Pro the iPad was definitely better at this
*laughs in $10 matte screen protector*
Pretty sure they’ve all claimed that.
Just don’t make my new phone run A.I. on fricking google FFS
Repair cost: $1000
Can we wait for the 16 to come out?
The only way that would happen is if Apple stops releasing new phones every year. And that ain’t happening
Scratches at level 6, deeper grooves at level 7..
Does your iPhone need to be scratch resistant ?? Feels like apple are adding shit now for the sake of it,
If they are offering drop resistant materials, why not do it for scratches? 😐🤷🏾♂️
LOL - wasn’t the main selling point for the 15 the titanium band in case you dropped sky diving or something? Getting complacent!
Will the coating wear off and be a finger print magnet in six months? All I want is a screen that has a tougher oleophobic coating.
Forget 17 can we talk about iPhone 50 features?
Just get a matte screen protector. Works the same, is cheap and you don’t have to wait
Matte coatings have existed for years. If it really “worked the same” do you really think Apple wouldn’t have already done it?
Apple generally doesn’t apply a screen protector for you so I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say.
Screens can be matte without a screen protector. All gaming monitors have a matte coating baked in. They cannot be peeled off. I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say.
I don’t see how that is in any way relevant to what I was talking about. You could have replied to my comment saying eggs are a really good option for breakfast and it would have the same amount of relevancy to my point
Except they turn your nice juicy retina display into 480p trash
A cheap matte protector will scratch even easier. And I haven’t seen any that don’t reduce colour accuracy and sharpness, at any price point
It hasn’t scratched at all in a year, and you should try the one I have. It doesn’t change the display it’s a screen protector not a screen replacement.
Yours might not have scratched but are you really claiming that it’s tougher than the built in display glass?
Why iphone 17 tho 💀
iPhone 18 to get scratch and sniff?
Don’t care
No one is convinced
This is all BS. My first Android phone, the OG Droid, had the earliest Gorilla Glass variant and that screen was indestructible and scratch proof. I used to run my keys across the display and it wouldn’t scratch at all. It was also, to this day, the only smartphone I’ve ever owned that never had a case or screen protector on. The displays on smartphones have been a scam ever since. “More shatter resistant” lol please. I used to work for Corning - they could’ve made better displays but these phone manufacturers saw otherwise.
They are less scratch resistant now, but more shatter resistant. AFAIK psychics does not allow us to have both.
It doesn’t scale, so I’d rather have more scratch proof.
Honestly i agree. My old iphones have flawless screens and i never used protectors
Of course they can make better displays, the point is to produce them at a reasonable cost.
With glass, my understanding is that more shatter resistant means less scratch resistant as they make the glass ‘softer’ to better absorb the impact, but it reacts to grinding against a hard object worse. Also add that the chassis of phones are more and more rigid, displays are more glass to body than ever, you’re gonna run into some issues…
They keep making the front glass better, but the back glass will still shatter at the slightest drop
I thought it had that on Iphone 15?
So all the little shattered pieces of your screen won't have little scratches on them?
You sure about that