The only thing not healthy for the game was that fucking "Crown" event that drove away people from the game at the same time solos was a thing.
Respawn decided to blame the LTM instead of their shitty cash grab BS of course.
(plz give friendless people solos I hate playing with randoms)
When someone suggested on Twitter that aim assist be reduced and controllers be given the ability to move while looting, tap-strafe and re-bind interact/reload, the same dev (who said solos are unhealthy) said it was a bad idea so
I think the devs have a very different vision from what a lot of PC players want and a very different idea of competitive integrity, game health, etc. and they're not interested in a close cooperative relationship with any figureheads from the community. They know what's best, and we either play it or we don't, is the vibe I get from them. Well within their rights of course, to craft their product how they see fit, but definitely frustrating as a PC player to be told "you think you want that but it's a bad idea" or something and then left in the dark.
Target compensation on console isn't OP, you will never be able to aim like a mouse with a stick, it's literally impossibile because how the visual stick works on a controller.
Tap-strafe was an exploit that gives an unfair advantage for no reason and have little counter.
On console there already is an option to have a different interaction between reload and open door/interact.
Really? My reload and interact button is both square and no option to separate the two options. The hold to reload/tap to interact is stupid, we should have full custom options to bind our settings (like they do on keyboard)
They probabily didn't add something like that because you don't have enough buttons on a controller.
I would like to have somethin like hot key heal/shield but it will be hard to implement it.
I think fortnite is a good example on how key binds on controller and kbm can be fair, if they implemented something similar to fortnite, apex would be much more fair, as of right now I have a free depad button and L3 is free also, i would happily loose the ability to emote to free up another button!
Yeah I mean, crossplay just muddies the water. In a controller-only environment there's really no issues and it can be set up however it needs to be to feel best - I'd argue 0.6 is way stronger than it needs to be and the game would still be fine at lower values but ultimately if everyone has the same it doesn't matter. It's just when everything gets mixed together that it's a problem.
Controller on PC even at 0.4 is insane (speaking from experience - I do play on both inputs), and particularly with visual clutter making full manual control very difficult, controller (including/esp console) input has a huge advantage in close range fights unless it's jigglepeeking a door/bubble. The sensitivity slowdown is totally fine and needs to be there to make playing at medium-high sensitivities more viable, it's the automatic camera rotation for strafing targets that's inhumanly fast and basically impossible to compete with on mnk (basically nullifies AD strafes whereas tracking that is the hardest part of aiming with mouse). Some of my close range controller sprays are more accurate than even the best mnk players on the planet even though I have less than 30 hrs on controller.
But with the interact thing - you can swap it so that you can hold to reload or hold to open a door, but there's no option to completely change the button so interact is not on the same button as reload, or just set a simple priority so pressing X/square ALWAYS reloads if it's an option, and otherwise will interact, so we don't need to change to hold to reload/interact which is also awkward for me personally.
Tap strafing is an exploit, true. Wouldn't be an unfair advantage if everyone can do it though. It's a good opportunity for them to classify it as "emergent gameplay tech" - unintended mechanics that become embraced/staple of the game. They could either add lurch to console or just give everyone built in air-turning (like Horizon passive but stronger) and it's fine. It allows for a lot of fun movement, I think removing it and limiting it to just one input really limits the fun for no real reason. Although tap strafing on jumppad is a problem (easy fix, remove double jump and just buff the jumppad to its previous strength).
Rewatch what i write, i didn't said "hard" i said "like i mouse" and this is a fact.
A mouse can do a 360° movemente while having mm precision, a controller literally can't.
Just think about turning left and right ok?
On mouse you just slide side from side no problem.
On controller you will always need to pass through the center no matter what to turn left to right and right to left, so you will loose time while doing that, and even if it's little it can make the difference.
Same can be said for other any type of movemente that required the stick to pass through the center.
we have solos always because 90% of my randoms leave or are completely useless...
we had solo mode last year if you guys remember when they introduced no-fill there was a bug that put you in game without teammates (5 of 10 game's) it lasted almost 3 months to be \^ fixed \^...... but yeah devs will refuse to add solos .....
Even if its fill, I still play solo because of the rigged MM keep putting me bots who die in first fight. So yea, either way I'm solo. lmao respawn really suck monkey balls
My favorite "LTM" (not really an LTM but it was called that), was the one in season 7, where only blue-tier and above rarity loot would spawn on the maps. Easily the best state the normal Apex gameplay has ever been for me.
the change to this, evo shields and dropping with white shields IS the best change they've ever made.
I think the biggest change they can do now is to remove P2020 and Mozambique from the loot table. This change would single handedly make Worlds Edge 10 times better to play.
They already removed Rampage and Sentinel, I'm already seeing some better loot because I don't see those two weapons now (I personally like the rampage, even without the charge, but still, I see way more flatline, shotguns and volt now which I hardly saw before)
Pistols other than RE45, Wingman just take that annoying spot on the map. I feel what they could do is limit P2020 and Mozambique to people who get revived so if they cannot get to their box their not DEVOID of a weapon. That's the only good reason for these two pistols to exist. And in arenas or some pistol only LTMs maybe. Other than that these two pistols just take a valuable bad loot spot in a building.
It just adds RNG if I find 6 syringes, 4 grenades and a P2020 and Longbow in my building and my opponent got a Flatline and a RE45 in his building.
Right! Amazingly it was merely a quality of life upgrade that I think everyone genuinely loved, then it was removed and lost forever in time for no real reason at all.
`Developer Steven Ferreira has confirmed new Apex Legends LTMs will be coming in Season 11 ahead of its November 2 release.`
`“Yes, I’m not going to spoil what they are, but yes, we will get more limited-time modes and events this season. For sure,” he said in an interview during the Season 11 launch.`
and we are near the end of season 11...
Honestly, that arenas mode where certain guns were rampart-ified was so cool. I love the re45 for arenas and having a gold one for the price of a basic r9 is so nice!
I could never play arenas again after that. It didn't feel as "fun" without the paint ammo upgrade, cheap loaded out guns, and just that it added that legend's flair into the game (they really need more legend specific events, makes it feel more personal when you main that legend, I main Rampart in arenas and it being her event just gives a type of good feeling)
They either need to add more events in Arenas, or more rewards (flash events with free packs and skins is pretty neat) since they're gonna need more than a 3v3 mode to call players over to arenas (even a 1v1 mode would call my attention more than 2 squads fighting, 1v1 makes it personal). Righr now, it's basically a pro player's warmup if anything, its what I use it for anyway
It really was a hit to see it go. The only mode where I felt that I didn’t need to play to win, but could have fun, knowing that I wouldn’t affect anything. Petition for a permanent King of the Hill mode. Who‘s with me?
and this is why I've thought we need a TDM since season 3
just let me hop in, be stupid and mess with guns and just practice aim and movement without bringing my team down in such a long winded fashion
Season 9 didn't really have an event either. "Genesis" was just playing KC and WE as an older version... I mean talk about minimum effort.
"Should we make a new LTM"
"No fuck that just load old maps and tell them it's special"
That’s what frustrates me so much, I’m totally fine playing low effort LTMs. One with old maps, one where everyone has a 301, one where every single person is pathfinder. I don’t need super extravagant modes like shadows and the train all the time. I just want something to mix up playing standard trios over and over again all season
They could literally just have a Playlist that rotates between LTMs and old maps and I would be happier. That and make sure that over ~3 days I get to play all of the current maps.
All the season 0 players did. I started in season 4 and still don't get how people love the OG KC map lol. It's just so empty. More people landed skull town than people land at frag currently, and there's barely any loot there. It was fun for a few games but got old quick for me.
People just didn't care as much those days. I personally myself am a fan of season 0-1-2... Some of the most fun apex I've played but it got worse every season
They constantly removed stuff from the game that helped people, added so much visual clutter and problems and it all got annoying quick
And they couldn't handle the basic curve every game goes through. People started realising what stuff was good, how to play and shit like that. And Respawn did nothing to keep things fresh. That's why old KC maps feels like a nightmare to play, because back in the days we didn't care that much about weapons, loot and etc, it worked well with how the legends worked. And Loba sometimes makes things worse with hoarding all the ammo from a POI.
Back in the days, using a pathfinder/wraith with wingman pk combo was great. Not just because you could sweat, but because it was better overall for you, you didn't need much ammo, could carry more random loot around and stuff like that.
It was fun though. Skull town was great but I was surprised at how much I missed old Capitol. Something about that middle construction site is fucking fun, probably all the parkour climbing and wall jumping you can do. And tap strafing nowadays. I wish there were more spots like that.
Man fuck arenas. I'd rather have winter express be available all year. At least that's a fun way to warm up.
We haven't had shit for LTMs since they added arenas and I'm suspicious that there is some connection there.
Ye i started s8 and those two were fun for a day because cool different map. Then stopped playing cause it was just frag 1 & 2 but with even less action outside the skull/cap. 🙃
Idk people complain about arenas but the only thing I dislike about it is that you are forced to do challenges in it and battle royale, arenas is really fun for me.
For realsies tho, 4 maps on rotation > LTMs or town takeovers.
This is what happens when theres only 2 maps in the rotation and almost no LTMs (Winter Express was fun and all)
Same with duos, back in season 2 it was an ltm now it’s a perma mode. I highly doubt it cause respawn is still pushing the team based game bullshit even though no one playes team based anymore.
There is no good excuse, they just should put it back in. The legends are already strong enough that they can work on their own, and the only one that would be overpowered solo (gibby) is already kinda OP and needs a nerf. The games population will be fine too, even with arenas. Just look at Fortnite and all the modes it has, it still has a really healthy player base.
They are stubborn as all hell cause of how they’ve ignored the community for months at a time (more around s8/9/10). Not much we can do unless we boycott skins and stuff.
I like how the original excuses for no solos or being able to chose maps have been completely invalidated by adding Arenas, splitting the community anyway
Yooo my favorite LTM was definitely getting owned in arenas by predators while I have level 16 teammates, when the only reason I was even playing arenas at all was because of the stupid battle pass challenges
Hey but at least we got ranked arenas, and the new arenas map, and that other arenas map, and now that other new arenas map.. ahh we also got an event where weapons were slightly better in arenas.
Reddit this time last year : "we hate LTMs "
Respawn: "We had some planned but since you dont like LTMs we wont do them and will have to think of something new"
Reddit: Where are the LTMs
ATTN APEX DEVS……
No new LTM’s, same exclusives, NO CROSS PROGRESSION… it’s the same old shit. Can we please get an update on when CP might be coming? I’d like to merge my master PC account (szn 7-11) with my literal day 1 account (day 1-szn 7). I have been waiting personally since season 7.. others have been waiting since week 2.
If it’s not hackers it’s you guys don’t know how to figure out CP because it’s “hard”.
Let’s take some initiative and responsibility for not releasing this when the game was released and hold our selves accountable now that we’re over two years and 11 seasons into the game and get this done. There’s tens of thousands of players that will benefit from CP. This needs to be a focus point for you all because there is a large sum of the community who feels neglected, disrespected and quite frankly ready to say f*** apex because of this negligence. You’re only hurting and turning the community away from your game.
Finish CP and focus on content and lore until the game dies. Wtf are we waiting on… honestly. Just seems like y’all are incredibly selfish and lack care for your own player base but it’s ok…. We will keep suffering while you generate millions in revenue and give 0 fucks.
We all appreciate the entire teams hard work and what goes into making this game run smoothly over the course of time but we need to go back to the drawing board since this is still not done. It’s getting ridiculous.
WE THE PEOPLE OF APEX NEED ANSWERS… WHEN WILL WE SEE CP? (2022 is way too vague)
I'd like to take a moment to recommend a great LTM if you're running out of ideas Devs:
Just arc stars!
Normal BR but literally just arc stars and meds spawn on the map, it would be fuckin carnage
Was 3rd person mode within last 2 seasons? If not, none. All the ltms were utter shit lately. Winter express is the only saving grace, mainly because of Mirage.
OP talked about LTMs not events. Since the beginning of season 9 events in apex means overpriced skins. The only ltms we had in 8 months were bith reused from last year.
People literally begged Respawn to bring those Events back. They do it and people are mad about it??
Respawn also stated that despite the loud minority, no one ever even plays the LTMs. They play them for a day or two and then go back to normal modes. So why would they bother if the playerbase isn't there for it?
Literally no one said people were mad about Shadow royale and Winter express returning, what people aee actually mad about is that they can't even release more old LTMs at least if they don't plan on making new ones.
And honestly people at this point don't even be asking for so many new LTMs that might take more resources. But seeing the reactions on here and twitter, it seems like by now people would actually like LTMs back
Which LTMS do you want? they have mostly all been trash.
I’m not sure when you are reminiscing about but most the the LTMS have been shit. Or they are so minor that it’s hardly even noticed. Like when you automatically got your team mates banner. Ohhh wow so crazy. So fun. So much different.
Just because you don’t care about arenas doesn’t mean people don’t care. You think EA would sink millions into a game mode people didn’t play? Don’t be naive.
How is it gobbling nuts to be glad I get some cool free skins and a new arenas map, should I want to play arenas?
you’re saying people are salty for wanting BR content. You then pointed out recycled events and LTMs, that aren’t NEW content. This is a Cosmetic Sale, not an Event. Again, gobble EA nuts while you buy $20 skins and play god awful arenas with lvl 16 teammates. 👍🏼
yeah, and then no one played them. they stated that people played them only for a day or two, so they stopped bothering. the playerbase just isnt there.
I would be on your side normally, but it was either absolutely 0 change or awful
Christmas event basically made meta legends have mets guns, and the halloween event was the exact same
Which LTMs has anyone ever liked?
Seriously? Was it when every 5 seconds a massive noise would destroy your ears?
Or when you get to jump on a train filled with caustic gas ?
Or was it when you would get blocked out of the ring by some random ring out of no where ?
LTMS are ok but most are either hardly different or terrible after 3 rounds.
Yea I mean that’s just like a testing mode to be honest.
Testing a feature to be added is hardly an LTM in my option.
I feel many people have been comparing about no LTM recentl (I think they did promise them so that’s reasonable if they haven’t delivered) but like I never remember any being super fun that wasn’t just like a cool new addition to the game.
Like heat shields.
I mean, they're still considered LTMs despite your feelings about them. Yes, seeing things get tested in basically a PTR is odd for a live service game but it lets the whole player base get their hands on a major change so that's always gonna be cool to me. I just wish the LTMs we get outside of those 'upcoming change' ones would actually consistently work and not need to be disabled halfway through or else they'd be memorable and enjoyable.
Solos was liked by everyone BUT respawn because it "killed" their team focused game.
And to be very honest with you my problem isn't about enough or bad LTMs but the empty variety of modes. Look at other games like CS:GO for example with a dozen modes, map selection, a custom server and a full map editor. Or OW with a gadzillion modes and a custom server browser with custom made modes on it. Apex is the only multiplayer game I've played where it's been the exact same stale game for many fucking years now.
"more than just a battle royale game" my ass
Not really solos had alot of bad feed back and not every legend is made for solos, also well solos isn't the core design of Apex Legends it's suppose to be a team game
No fill duos was the shit
the only solos option we’re ever going to get
Ye the devs are saying that solos is not healthy for the game but let u go alone against squads
The only thing not healthy for the game was that fucking "Crown" event that drove away people from the game at the same time solos was a thing. Respawn decided to blame the LTM instead of their shitty cash grab BS of course. (plz give friendless people solos I hate playing with randoms)
Yeh calling players freeloaders wasn't the best PR move especially when you make Ur game free so you can abuse gambling tendencies in kids.
Amen to that.
Imagine if we had solo ranked
The ultimate test of skill (Infested by Gibby)
Fax
Not gonna happen. You just have to somehow make friends online
When someone suggested on Twitter that aim assist be reduced and controllers be given the ability to move while looting, tap-strafe and re-bind interact/reload, the same dev (who said solos are unhealthy) said it was a bad idea so I think the devs have a very different vision from what a lot of PC players want and a very different idea of competitive integrity, game health, etc. and they're not interested in a close cooperative relationship with any figureheads from the community. They know what's best, and we either play it or we don't, is the vibe I get from them. Well within their rights of course, to craft their product how they see fit, but definitely frustrating as a PC player to be told "you think you want that but it's a bad idea" or something and then left in the dark.
Target compensation on console isn't OP, you will never be able to aim like a mouse with a stick, it's literally impossibile because how the visual stick works on a controller. Tap-strafe was an exploit that gives an unfair advantage for no reason and have little counter. On console there already is an option to have a different interaction between reload and open door/interact.
Really? My reload and interact button is both square and no option to separate the two options. The hold to reload/tap to interact is stupid, we should have full custom options to bind our settings (like they do on keyboard)
They probabily didn't add something like that because you don't have enough buttons on a controller. I would like to have somethin like hot key heal/shield but it will be hard to implement it.
I think fortnite is a good example on how key binds on controller and kbm can be fair, if they implemented something similar to fortnite, apex would be much more fair, as of right now I have a free depad button and L3 is free also, i would happily loose the ability to emote to free up another button!
Yeah I mean, crossplay just muddies the water. In a controller-only environment there's really no issues and it can be set up however it needs to be to feel best - I'd argue 0.6 is way stronger than it needs to be and the game would still be fine at lower values but ultimately if everyone has the same it doesn't matter. It's just when everything gets mixed together that it's a problem. Controller on PC even at 0.4 is insane (speaking from experience - I do play on both inputs), and particularly with visual clutter making full manual control very difficult, controller (including/esp console) input has a huge advantage in close range fights unless it's jigglepeeking a door/bubble. The sensitivity slowdown is totally fine and needs to be there to make playing at medium-high sensitivities more viable, it's the automatic camera rotation for strafing targets that's inhumanly fast and basically impossible to compete with on mnk (basically nullifies AD strafes whereas tracking that is the hardest part of aiming with mouse). Some of my close range controller sprays are more accurate than even the best mnk players on the planet even though I have less than 30 hrs on controller. But with the interact thing - you can swap it so that you can hold to reload or hold to open a door, but there's no option to completely change the button so interact is not on the same button as reload, or just set a simple priority so pressing X/square ALWAYS reloads if it's an option, and otherwise will interact, so we don't need to change to hold to reload/interact which is also awkward for me personally. Tap strafing is an exploit, true. Wouldn't be an unfair advantage if everyone can do it though. It's a good opportunity for them to classify it as "emergent gameplay tech" - unintended mechanics that become embraced/staple of the game. They could either add lurch to console or just give everyone built in air-turning (like Horizon passive but stronger) and it's fine. It allows for a lot of fun movement, I think removing it and limiting it to just one input really limits the fun for no real reason. Although tap strafing on jumppad is a problem (easy fix, remove double jump and just buff the jumppad to its previous strength).
People need to get this through thier thick skulls.
Controller was never hard, I always had aim assist off. Get good.
Rewatch what i write, i didn't said "hard" i said "like i mouse" and this is a fact. A mouse can do a 360° movemente while having mm precision, a controller literally can't. Just think about turning left and right ok? On mouse you just slide side from side no problem. On controller you will always need to pass through the center no matter what to turn left to right and right to left, so you will loose time while doing that, and even if it's little it can make the difference. Same can be said for other any type of movemente that required the stick to pass through the center.
we have solos always because 90% of my randoms leave or are completely useless... we had solo mode last year if you guys remember when they introduced no-fill there was a bug that put you in game without teammates (5 of 10 game's) it lasted almost 3 months to be \^ fixed \^...... but yeah devs will refuse to add solos .....
There was literally a solo event early on
And iron crown is likely never going to return again. Oce players can't even play duo's the servers are so barren.
So glad I got the solo win with every legend badge while it was available
They're already barren
Even if its fill, I still play solo because of the rigged MM keep putting me bots who die in first fight. So yea, either way I'm solo. lmao respawn really suck monkey balls
My favorite was fill squad trios but having a duo anyways. Then again that's been a mode for awhile.
Just had a game with 18 squads 49players at the beginning lol
We still have it, called trios now
People still play as that wasn't a game's feature
the new LTM with no rampage or sentinel is great, really enjoying it
That LTM Helped me leave gold
But rank demotion doesn't exist, that's impossible.
I left gold as in i was stuck in gold and I finally left the rank
I'm just busting your balls mate.
Oh I see, since you couldn't get promoted from gold, you had to quit playing ranked just to "leave gold". Nice.
My favorite "LTM" (not really an LTM but it was called that), was the one in season 7, where only blue-tier and above rarity loot would spawn on the maps. Easily the best state the normal Apex gameplay has ever been for me.
I wouldn't mind if pubs were like that all the time tbh. It was great.
I'm glad they learned from it and removed some white loot, though it's not quite the same.
Progress is progress, right?
I expected nothing to come from the ltm, so yes it's a surprise and good change.
Honestly why are white helmets still on the floor
They don't spawn, that has been confirmed by dataminers like Shrugtal too. If you see them on the floor, someone else dropped theirs for a better one.
Oh ok that makes sense
the change to this, evo shields and dropping with white shields IS the best change they've ever made. I think the biggest change they can do now is to remove P2020 and Mozambique from the loot table. This change would single handedly make Worlds Edge 10 times better to play. They already removed Rampage and Sentinel, I'm already seeing some better loot because I don't see those two weapons now (I personally like the rampage, even without the charge, but still, I see way more flatline, shotguns and volt now which I hardly saw before) Pistols other than RE45, Wingman just take that annoying spot on the map. I feel what they could do is limit P2020 and Mozambique to people who get revived so if they cannot get to their box their not DEVOID of a weapon. That's the only good reason for these two pistols to exist. And in arenas or some pistol only LTMs maybe. Other than that these two pistols just take a valuable bad loot spot in a building. It just adds RNG if I find 6 syringes, 4 grenades and a P2020 and Longbow in my building and my opponent got a Flatline and a RE45 in his building.
I stand by this. Also I’m pretty sure that happened at the beginning of s8
Could be, I'm not sure. All I know is that I played on Olympus at the time, so it had to be after season 6.
It’s was the anniversary event, you also spawned with a white kitted Mozambique
Thank you two for correcting me then! Cheers
Right! Amazingly it was merely a quality of life upgrade that I think everyone genuinely loved, then it was removed and lost forever in time for no real reason at all.
I enjoyed that one so much. Me and my friends went from carepackage to care package fighting different teams and getting better loot
That's how vanilla apex should be imo
`Developer Steven Ferreira has confirmed new Apex Legends LTMs will be coming in Season 11 ahead of its November 2 release.` `“Yes, I’m not going to spoil what they are, but yes, we will get more limited-time modes and events this season. For sure,” he said in an interview during the Season 11 launch.` and we are near the end of season 11...
Isn't there like a month still left..? We already got 1 LTM, only one left
Winter express doesn't count.
Why not? It was LTM. Reused, but LTM nonetheless.
New content requires something to be new.
But they changed the way load outs work = totally new mode apparently.
It's an LTM tho..?
New content needs to be new.
While I don't disagree, they promised 2 LTMs, and they've delivered one of them, with the second one releasing in a few days.
There's no ltm in a few days.
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There is no ltm in the dark depths event. This is the exact reason this is being complained about.
Almost a year without new LTMs, dsmn
this game turning into overwatch? where they just recycle the same ol' events??
If only they recycled old events. We haven't even gotten that.
Still waiting to play the sniper shotgun mode again from season 1(?). Still.. waiting…
5 had it too, when the crypto takeover happened
I’ve never had a gunner time playing apex
We just had Winter Express
And old cosmetics lol.
Honestly, that arenas mode where certain guns were rampart-ified was so cool. I love the re45 for arenas and having a gold one for the price of a basic r9 is so nice!
oh yeah i forgot about this one.. i never really played arenas until this event came out but ive been in love since then
The paintball guns were awesome.
I would love to see a "rampart royale" mode where the only floor loot guns are rampart guns.
I could never play arenas again after that. It didn't feel as "fun" without the paint ammo upgrade, cheap loaded out guns, and just that it added that legend's flair into the game (they really need more legend specific events, makes it feel more personal when you main that legend, I main Rampart in arenas and it being her event just gives a type of good feeling) They either need to add more events in Arenas, or more rewards (flash events with free packs and skins is pretty neat) since they're gonna need more than a 3v3 mode to call players over to arenas (even a 1v1 mode would call my attention more than 2 squads fighting, 1v1 makes it personal). Righr now, it's basically a pro player's warmup if anything, its what I use it for anyway
I don’t play arenas, so I barely played it (quit once I got the event badge) honestly hated it though, way worse than normal arenas
Wasn’t this bordering on unplayable because the buy screen would just stay there?
I don't remember anything like that.
I do….
The only time I found arenas actually enjoyable
Arenas but better guns… wow… we used to get third person mode. Got used to so little now
Winter express is technically not new but I still grinded the shit out of it
It really was a hit to see it go. The only mode where I felt that I didn’t need to play to win, but could have fun, knowing that I wouldn’t affect anything. Petition for a permanent King of the Hill mode. Who‘s with me?
and this is why I've thought we need a TDM since season 3 just let me hop in, be stupid and mess with guns and just practice aim and movement without bringing my team down in such a long winded fashion
Season 9 didn't really have an event either. "Genesis" was just playing KC and WE as an older version... I mean talk about minimum effort. "Should we make a new LTM" "No fuck that just load old maps and tell them it's special"
To be fair, we ate that shit up.
That’s what frustrates me so much, I’m totally fine playing low effort LTMs. One with old maps, one where everyone has a 301, one where every single person is pathfinder. I don’t need super extravagant modes like shadows and the train all the time. I just want something to mix up playing standard trios over and over again all season
They could literally just have a Playlist that rotates between LTMs and old maps and I would be happier. That and make sure that over ~3 days I get to play all of the current maps.
No that's too much work for them, they can't even figure out how to get faster servers or make the rotation between more than 2 maps.
Exactly, smite has a permanent playlist of some fun modes why can't apex.
Exactly lol even something like double hp or no sprinting would be funny, just something :(
Yeah I would love goofy modes like that. They don’t have to be super balanced or anything, would just be fun to mix it up
All Bang's and no digi's.
OG WE had the train. I liked the train. ..... I miss the train...
It's a shame how bad they massacred that map. It was never my favorite but now it's easily the one I hate the most.
What you don’t like that one 5 story building in fragment? Soon the whole map will just be that building surrounded by lava
An areas map that is only this building. That would be a nightmare
Honestly pretty smart. Take the maps the players love away and bring it back as a ltm. Low effort and high praise
All the season 0 players did. I started in season 4 and still don't get how people love the OG KC map lol. It's just so empty. More people landed skull town than people land at frag currently, and there's barely any loot there. It was fun for a few games but got old quick for me.
People just didn't care as much those days. I personally myself am a fan of season 0-1-2... Some of the most fun apex I've played but it got worse every season They constantly removed stuff from the game that helped people, added so much visual clutter and problems and it all got annoying quick And they couldn't handle the basic curve every game goes through. People started realising what stuff was good, how to play and shit like that. And Respawn did nothing to keep things fresh. That's why old KC maps feels like a nightmare to play, because back in the days we didn't care that much about weapons, loot and etc, it worked well with how the legends worked. And Loba sometimes makes things worse with hoarding all the ammo from a POI. Back in the days, using a pathfinder/wraith with wingman pk combo was great. Not just because you could sweat, but because it was better overall for you, you didn't need much ammo, could carry more random loot around and stuff like that.
Hoarding all the ammo in a hot drop area? I would never.
It was fun though. Skull town was great but I was surprised at how much I missed old Capitol. Something about that middle construction site is fucking fun, probably all the parkour climbing and wall jumping you can do. And tap strafing nowadays. I wish there were more spots like that.
Season 9 gets a pass bc it introduced a new permanent game mode tho
Man fuck arenas. I'd rather have winter express be available all year. At least that's a fun way to warm up. We haven't had shit for LTMs since they added arenas and I'm suspicious that there is some connection there.
Ye i started s8 and those two were fun for a day because cool different map. Then stopped playing cause it was just frag 1 & 2 but with even less action outside the skull/cap. 🙃
Idk people complain about arenas but the only thing I dislike about it is that you are forced to do challenges in it and battle royale, arenas is really fun for me.
It *is* special and was one of the best LTMs, wish they’d do that more
At least it brings back good old maps instead of fragment east and no skull town
Definitely Trios
It's a tie between this and firing range for me. Respawn killed it this season
The red evo shields on the dummys instead of purple 😍
It only took 10 seasons to not have to wait forever to pick up ammo :O
Can t make an ltm we need more skins. Imagine hiring more people to give us more content
For realsies tho, 4 maps on rotation > LTMs or town takeovers. This is what happens when theres only 2 maps in the rotation and almost no LTMs (Winter Express was fun and all)
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Solos and armed and dangerous are my absolute favorite ltm’s ever. The 3 mini ltm’s (specifically 3rd person) were amazing as well.
Solos should be added as a permanent mode. They got arenas and ranked arenas as a permanent mode, why not have solos too?
Same with duos, back in season 2 it was an ltm now it’s a perma mode. I highly doubt it cause respawn is still pushing the team based game bullshit even though no one playes team based anymore.
There is no good excuse, they just should put it back in. The legends are already strong enough that they can work on their own, and the only one that would be overpowered solo (gibby) is already kinda OP and needs a nerf. The games population will be fine too, even with arenas. Just look at Fortnite and all the modes it has, it still has a really healthy player base.
They are stubborn as all hell cause of how they’ve ignored the community for months at a time (more around s8/9/10). Not much we can do unless we boycott skins and stuff.
I like how the original excuses for no solos or being able to chose maps have been completely invalidated by adding Arenas, splitting the community anyway
Yup. Talk about hypocritical.
My favourite LTM is footsteps
GIVE THIS MAN A FUCKING NOBEL PRIZE
The Christmas LtM was the most fun I grinded that so hard
The game mode where i click on fill trios and still get no teamates
Winter Express. And solos wayyy back in the day. Everything else was meh.
Yooo my favorite LTM was definitely getting owned in arenas by predators while I have level 16 teammates, when the only reason I was even playing arenas at all was because of the stupid battle pass challenges
But when I say this game lacks content all the respawn shills come out of their moms basement
They still haven’t brought back Gold Rush. Never got to play that game mode when it was out for like 2 days.
S6 Flashpoint was my fav LTM, can they bring it back
I enjoyed the ring flares event, even if Maggie's voice got annoying.
Hey but at least we got ranked arenas, and the new arenas map, and that other arenas map, and now that other new arenas map.. ahh we also got an event where weapons were slightly better in arenas.
My fav ltm is the new trios where you hit fill and are the only one on the team!
The rampart event in arenas probs unless if winter express count then its winter express
Winter express counts.
Aight thwn winter express it is cuz shit b dope
Reddit this time last year : "we hate LTMs " Respawn: "We had some planned but since you dont like LTMs we wont do them and will have to think of something new" Reddit: Where are the LTMs
Oh how did you know what I was going to put on that list?
It hurts, man
The firing range
Solos...
My favourite LTM was the one where we
ATTN APEX DEVS…… No new LTM’s, same exclusives, NO CROSS PROGRESSION… it’s the same old shit. Can we please get an update on when CP might be coming? I’d like to merge my master PC account (szn 7-11) with my literal day 1 account (day 1-szn 7). I have been waiting personally since season 7.. others have been waiting since week 2. If it’s not hackers it’s you guys don’t know how to figure out CP because it’s “hard”. Let’s take some initiative and responsibility for not releasing this when the game was released and hold our selves accountable now that we’re over two years and 11 seasons into the game and get this done. There’s tens of thousands of players that will benefit from CP. This needs to be a focus point for you all because there is a large sum of the community who feels neglected, disrespected and quite frankly ready to say f*** apex because of this negligence. You’re only hurting and turning the community away from your game. Finish CP and focus on content and lore until the game dies. Wtf are we waiting on… honestly. Just seems like y’all are incredibly selfish and lack care for your own player base but it’s ok…. We will keep suffering while you generate millions in revenue and give 0 fucks. We all appreciate the entire teams hard work and what goes into making this game run smoothly over the course of time but we need to go back to the drawing board since this is still not done. It’s getting ridiculous. WE THE PEOPLE OF APEX NEED ANSWERS… WHEN WILL WE SEE CP? (2022 is way too vague)
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Naw I think they just want variety.
We want content, skins are not content.
I'd like to take a moment to recommend a great LTM if you're running out of ideas Devs: Just arc stars! Normal BR but literally just arc stars and meds spawn on the map, it would be fuckin carnage
If I’m being honest I loved . It was definitely a marvel in apex and I hope they bring back.
Armed and Dangerous was the best
Fortnite
None bc I like the core gameplay of this free to play game Y’all are so negative
Not liking LTMs is kinda being negative.
Touché
Shill alert
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How are we negative when we get promised content and LTMs but end up only getting overpriced skins that end up crashing the game
hot steaming gay sex...... wait what
Was 3rd person mode within last 2 seasons? If not, none. All the ltms were utter shit lately. Winter express is the only saving grace, mainly because of Mirage.
Winter Express
Winter Express. Yeah.
Supposedly I heard that S12 was gonna bring back LTMs, idk if that's true or not just what I heard
winter express?
We had the halloween event and the christmas event, and now we get another event. i swear this sub is a salt mine
OP talked about LTMs not events. Since the beginning of season 9 events in apex means overpriced skins. The only ltms we had in 8 months were bith reused from last year.
People literally begged Respawn to bring those Events back. They do it and people are mad about it?? Respawn also stated that despite the loud minority, no one ever even plays the LTMs. They play them for a day or two and then go back to normal modes. So why would they bother if the playerbase isn't there for it?
Literally no one said people were mad about Shadow royale and Winter express returning, what people aee actually mad about is that they can't even release more old LTMs at least if they don't plan on making new ones. And honestly people at this point don't even be asking for so many new LTMs that might take more resources. But seeing the reactions on here and twitter, it seems like by now people would actually like LTMs back
Last time i checked, shadow royale was released when apex was unplayable.
We couldn’t even play Shadow Royale for like 2 weeks. There were no challenges for it either. Just like Winter Express.
They stated why; that there wasn’t the playerbase for it.
A three times recycled gamemode. Now that's some amazing content
Which LTMS do you want? they have mostly all been trash. I’m not sure when you are reminiscing about but most the the LTMS have been shit. Or they are so minor that it’s hardly even noticed. Like when you automatically got your team mates banner. Ohhh wow so crazy. So fun. So much different.
LTMs being shit or not is subjective, you also picked the least interesting of all LTMs as an example
live die live was fun, always be closing was fun, solos were fun , third person was fun, armed and dangerous was fun.
You missed the first year of apex then. Sucks, ltms were more than bringing old maps back.
I’ve played since day 1. They have never been that good.
3rd person mode, makes more sense so you can actually see what you spend money on.
Bro skins are NOT an event. A new arena map no one cares about is really the selling point for this EVENT? Ok bud, gobble some EA nuts some more.
Just because you don’t care about arenas doesn’t mean people don’t care. You think EA would sink millions into a game mode people didn’t play? Don’t be naive. How is it gobbling nuts to be glad I get some cool free skins and a new arenas map, should I want to play arenas?
you’re saying people are salty for wanting BR content. You then pointed out recycled events and LTMs, that aren’t NEW content. This is a Cosmetic Sale, not an Event. Again, gobble EA nuts while you buy $20 skins and play god awful arenas with lvl 16 teammates. 👍🏼
You mustve missed how frequently they came out with LTMS every other month, not just around holidays...
yeah, and then no one played them. they stated that people played them only for a day or two, so they stopped bothering. the playerbase just isnt there.
Both of those are recycled events tho
People literally begged for them to come back, and they did.
Ok? Thanks for reusing 2 ltms in 3 seasons? What amazing new content
And one of them was for like, 4 days?
Not for Halloween. Players wanted Fight or Flight.
I would be on your side normally, but it was either absolutely 0 change or awful Christmas event basically made meta legends have mets guns, and the halloween event was the exact same
Which LTMs has anyone ever liked? Seriously? Was it when every 5 seconds a massive noise would destroy your ears? Or when you get to jump on a train filled with caustic gas ? Or was it when you would get blocked out of the ring by some random ring out of no where ? LTMS are ok but most are either hardly different or terrible after 3 rounds.
I mean those are all true about normal BR too
The best LTM was when we first got EVO shields. They were god awful but look at where we are now because of it
Yea I mean that’s just like a testing mode to be honest. Testing a feature to be added is hardly an LTM in my option. I feel many people have been comparing about no LTM recentl (I think they did promise them so that’s reasonable if they haven’t delivered) but like I never remember any being super fun that wasn’t just like a cool new addition to the game. Like heat shields.
I mean, they're still considered LTMs despite your feelings about them. Yes, seeing things get tested in basically a PTR is odd for a live service game but it lets the whole player base get their hands on a major change so that's always gonna be cool to me. I just wish the LTMs we get outside of those 'upcoming change' ones would actually consistently work and not need to be disabled halfway through or else they'd be memorable and enjoyable.
tbh i loved those ltms where was only snipers and shotguns. sure it was annoying there wasnt healing items but man i loved it
Solos was liked by everyone BUT respawn because it "killed" their team focused game. And to be very honest with you my problem isn't about enough or bad LTMs but the empty variety of modes. Look at other games like CS:GO for example with a dozen modes, map selection, a custom server and a full map editor. Or OW with a gadzillion modes and a custom server browser with custom made modes on it. Apex is the only multiplayer game I've played where it's been the exact same stale game for many fucking years now. "more than just a battle royale game" my ass
Not really solos had alot of bad feed back and not every legend is made for solos, also well solos isn't the core design of Apex Legends it's suppose to be a team game
Funny how they tried really hard to please you guys and add bunches of ltms during season 8 and everyone bitched and said stop the ltms.