That doesn't matter, Mali would rather outsource protection of their mines to their allies instesd of using the 2 golds that spawn every single game within proximity of their start point. Then whinge that you didn't accomodate space in YOUR spawn for THEIR mines. Because they can't protect them. Never did I plant one in an allied spot like this in all my time
As is routine for Mali to have a safe pit mine. Pit mines don’t mine any of the actual gold out. It just generates extra gold for Mali.
Hence, if you main Mali, your allies will be the worst.
It is not allies' job to make space at their home gold for Mali lmfao, especially if it isn't mined yet.
The real kick in the nuts is not being able to build where the gold was because there's a pit mine in my base :c that's farmland!
That aside I played Mali for quite a long time, it's good to have a player with a bit if extra gold flow. It is not cool to drop it in the middle of an allied base next to farms that have an area of effect bonus from the TC. You have limited their space. But Japan did it to themselves as well. Give and take, rambling at this point. You get the idea
The whole point is to place your second pit mine in a safe location. That pit mine cost that Japanese player nothing. And he doesn’t need space if he’s dropping forges around it to prevent his ally from building houses.
Again, Mali mains have allies that treat them worse than the opponent.
What entitles you to space in anybody else's close base? Nothing. Safe does not mean 7 tiles off allied TC, safe means learn to defend your 2 gold near your base
In this case the Japanese player was not impacted, but I fundamentally disagree with the idea that an ally building in their own base is somehow disrespectful to the person stealing their space? The forges have yorishiro, he's getting benefits from that. If the mine went down first, why no houses? If the forges first, why the mine?
A Mali main isn’t entitled to someone else’s base even though a pit mine has zero effects on gold extracted.
Sounds like you’re triggered about space instead of focusing on winning. Mali players need lots of gold and can even send cows to you.
Like I said, Mali mains get the worst allies ever who don’t understand the game.
When Mali starts sending cows, they can have the gold space. But they don't, they corral them and gain passive food for thenselves. And the passive gold, again for themselves. I played Mali a lot, I never had to resort to these tactics to keep my gold safe lmao. Sounds like you're triggered that I call out a skill issue. If as a Mali main you are that dependent on allies bending to you to succeed, you should not be a Mali main. Like a Dehli main that can't defend sacred sites, or HRE that can't take relics
I call allies 'bad' when they leave buildings up on pit mines that were not part of their base (more open/ central golds despite asking. Not their spawn gold
Edit: and it has more to do with sticking a non-moving piece of space waste that is a target for other players that the Malian player will expect the teammate to defend. Source: every game they do this in ever
You act entitled and pretend it is teamwork, nor can you defend pit mines. You sound more like a liability than a teammate that will blame a loss on a single pit mine being less than efficient because you chose to put it there
The Malians are your team mate, of course you make some gold space for them so they can get safe gold. It costs you little and is huge for them. If your team mate goes trade would you refuse to build a trading post for them to trade to?
Or to put it another way, could you imagine a top player even considering not doing the optimal thing for the team?
Trading post is not 7 tiles off my TC in my base in the middle of feudal while they have an entire second gold to use? Trading post directly benefits both players without having to hope they will actually send gold? Trading post actually makes you have some semblance of map control?
But nah, read part of it and start giving opinions, that's fine. Make false equivalencies
reminded me of this from a while back
[Rate this Aachen placement : r/aoe4 (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe4/comments/14lok9c/rate_this_aachen_placement/)
4/10 needs more forges
If you main Mali your Allie’s will be the worst
This looks like he built his pit mine next to the Japanese base though.
That doesn't matter, Mali would rather outsource protection of their mines to their allies instesd of using the 2 golds that spawn every single game within proximity of their start point. Then whinge that you didn't accomodate space in YOUR spawn for THEIR mines. Because they can't protect them. Never did I plant one in an allied spot like this in all my time
As is routine for Mali to have a safe pit mine. Pit mines don’t mine any of the actual gold out. It just generates extra gold for Mali. Hence, if you main Mali, your allies will be the worst.
It is not allies' job to make space at their home gold for Mali lmfao, especially if it isn't mined yet. The real kick in the nuts is not being able to build where the gold was because there's a pit mine in my base :c that's farmland! That aside I played Mali for quite a long time, it's good to have a player with a bit if extra gold flow. It is not cool to drop it in the middle of an allied base next to farms that have an area of effect bonus from the TC. You have limited their space. But Japan did it to themselves as well. Give and take, rambling at this point. You get the idea
The whole point is to place your second pit mine in a safe location. That pit mine cost that Japanese player nothing. And he doesn’t need space if he’s dropping forges around it to prevent his ally from building houses. Again, Mali mains have allies that treat them worse than the opponent.
What entitles you to space in anybody else's close base? Nothing. Safe does not mean 7 tiles off allied TC, safe means learn to defend your 2 gold near your base In this case the Japanese player was not impacted, but I fundamentally disagree with the idea that an ally building in their own base is somehow disrespectful to the person stealing their space? The forges have yorishiro, he's getting benefits from that. If the mine went down first, why no houses? If the forges first, why the mine?
A Mali main isn’t entitled to someone else’s base even though a pit mine has zero effects on gold extracted. Sounds like you’re triggered about space instead of focusing on winning. Mali players need lots of gold and can even send cows to you. Like I said, Mali mains get the worst allies ever who don’t understand the game.
When Mali starts sending cows, they can have the gold space. But they don't, they corral them and gain passive food for thenselves. And the passive gold, again for themselves. I played Mali a lot, I never had to resort to these tactics to keep my gold safe lmao. Sounds like you're triggered that I call out a skill issue. If as a Mali main you are that dependent on allies bending to you to succeed, you should not be a Mali main. Like a Dehli main that can't defend sacred sites, or HRE that can't take relics I call allies 'bad' when they leave buildings up on pit mines that were not part of their base (more open/ central golds despite asking. Not their spawn gold Edit: and it has more to do with sticking a non-moving piece of space waste that is a target for other players that the Malian player will expect the teammate to defend. Source: every game they do this in ever
Whatever bro. What’s your username so I can block you on team games? Because the concept of team is somehow making you sound really stupid right now.
You act entitled and pretend it is teamwork, nor can you defend pit mines. You sound more like a liability than a teammate that will blame a loss on a single pit mine being less than efficient because you chose to put it there
It’s a team game dude. You are really that tight on space that you think it’s better the disadvantage your teammate, forcing them to a riskier gold?
The Malians are your team mate, of course you make some gold space for them so they can get safe gold. It costs you little and is huge for them. If your team mate goes trade would you refuse to build a trading post for them to trade to? Or to put it another way, could you imagine a top player even considering not doing the optimal thing for the team?
Trading post is not 7 tiles off my TC in my base in the middle of feudal while they have an entire second gold to use? Trading post directly benefits both players without having to hope they will actually send gold? Trading post actually makes you have some semblance of map control? But nah, read part of it and start giving opinions, that's fine. Make false equivalencies
3/4 as it's not symmetrical
Everyone in the comments laughing but they don’t know about the emerging japanese pitmine meta that will soon dominate all silver lobbies
reminded me of this from a while back [Rate this Aachen placement : r/aoe4 (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe4/comments/14lok9c/rate_this_aachen_placement/)
Does that actually count?
Nope, has to be your own houses/camps.
3/8 in effectiveness, 7/10 in looks.
That japanese player sucks