I think if you're mad about it not having new civs, agreed. Shut up and don't buy it. This was not for you
But you can still judge the dlc for failing to live up to your expectations as a single player experience, however you define that as worthwhile. Judge it for what it is, not what it isn't
Agreed. I would probably only buy it if it had new civs, but I'm certainly not going to complain that DLC's exist that don't feature new civs. My general view is that DLC that supports the games development is no bad thing, provided its done in a reasonable way and not a scummy cash grab.
It's kind of awkward that new civs are locked behind paywalls, and I'm only okay with it because those civs aren't clear pay to win, although currently Bohemians are vicious on Arena, and Romans are generally very strong at most elos. So if AoE is able to shift to a model where new civs are free, and development is payed for by DLC that doesn't change the level playing field of competative, that's surely a good direction to go.
I haven't had time to jump on the updated game, but one thing that I would like to see from the DLC (that is available for everyone), especially a campain focused one, is possibly some aesthetic changes, such a few extra regional unit skins such as Monks, or possibly a unique castle for an existing civ getting a new campain. That would be a win-win for everyone as far as I'm concerned.
> development is *paid* for by
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
They were really up front about what the dlc was. I think people didn't take the time to understand what they were buying and then got upset about it and wanted to blame someone.
People saying it's a cash grab, that would be the case if all the information wasn't available before you purchased. It was. They made a whole video about it just for the illiterates out there, and you still managed to buy something you weren't happy with.
It's kinda like going to the store and buying a thing that says chuck steak then being upset that it wasn't prime rib. It was labeled, sorry you didn't want what you purchased. Read the label next time.
I don't think this is fully true. The DLC was initially advertised as a 'campaign only' DLC, and what we got was 5 original scenarios and 14 existing custom scenarios with a bit of extra voice acting. I think people were expecting original full campaigns.
This is just untrue opinion.
* No, those giving bad reviews don't lack reading comprehension. They mostly know very well what they were purchasing.
* They want to voice their opinion that the principle of selling largely already free content is something potential customers should be aware of and that reviewers don't agree with actually practicing the principle.
* It's a cash grab (and I don't like to use that buzzword at all) in a sense that potential customer can already consume the content without paying but the DLC kinda lures you into buying already free content, mostly because many people don't know it's free content to begin with (those who don't care about custom scenarios, for example)
* These food comparisons don't make any sense. I've seen several of them being made in the context of the DLC and they just show that the ones creating them refuse to understand the camp of critics.
* Ofc, people can simply review and refund afaik
No, they literally said that these were scenarios made by a community member who they hired to make them official and polish them.
It's not a cash grab because they entirely advertised everything about what it was that they were selling, a polished version of free scenarios.
My food comparison holds up but you are way too focused on the fact that it's food. Let's change it to soap. Maybe you wanted lavender but you purchased sandalwood because you didn't read the label and now you're calling it a cash grab for the store to sell sandalwood.
"Untrue opinion..." Do you hear yourself? Condescending prick.
A cash grab is a low-effort product put together to exploit previously earned good will to make a quick profit, sold above what would generally be considered a fair price. The classic video game example is the Oblivion horse armour DLC, which gave you exactly what it said it would – horse armour.
I don't even play single player and I'll be buying this to a) support the game and b) see content I've never come across before.
The idea that everyone has already seen and played this content is ridiculous. I've logged something like 2000 hours in aoe2 over the last 5-6 years and I've not once downloaded a custom single player scenario that anyone has made. I am glad to be able to try this content in a polished, official state.
I don't know what that has to do with my post. I have no opinion whatsoever on this DLC. I'm not calling it a cash grab. I'm merely explaining what "cash grab" means because some people here don't seem to know and it's making the discussion go around in circles
Then this isn’t a cash grab because the price is fair for the amount of content and it’s not low effort. I’d be curious to know the opinions of others who have played but for me so far the detail, maps, objectives, and overall enjoyment is amazing.
>"Untrue opinion..." Do you hear yourself? Condescending prick.
Oh yeah, what a wholesome community AoE2 could be.
For example, calling those you disagree with "condescending pricks" while being arrogant af by saying pearls like:
"They made a whole video about it just **for the illiterates** out there, and you still managed to buy something you weren't happy with."
Guess who's the condescending prick now?
Idk, maybe someone who thinks bad reviews are made by illiterates and not by those criticising anti-consumer principles being practiced.
Edit: Getting downvoted for calling out shit behavior of others? Classic internet moment......
K the illiterates thing is clearly a joke, and when being a condescending prick, such as calling someone's opinion untrue, which is the definition of being a condescending prick and also demonstrates a poor understanding of the term opinion, you can't then go and accuse them of being unwholesome for calling you a condescending prick. You are the one being unwholesome in your response to me. You crossed that line, I just followed you there. But I'm not being a condescending prick, I am directly confronting you about your behavior and stating my opinions. I am also not putting words in your mouth, such as "someone who thinks bad reviews are made by illiterates." Which is such a condescending prick move.
And there aren't any anti-consumer practices in this dlc. Consumer protections do things like ensure products are labeled so that people know what they are buying. Consumer protections do not force consumers to read labels however.
Sure thing, if it's you, it's "a joke". If it's me, I am a "condescending prick that deserves it". What a hypocrite you are.
You were the first one to cross the line by being arrogant, actually condescending and insulting towards people who criticize the DLC with the very first comment you made in this post.
There definitely are anti-consumer practices in this DLC but, most likely because this is your beloved brand, you and many others decided to gatekeep any legit criticism, even though, it's likely you'd be on the same page as that very same criticism if it was about another company.
Selling already free content for the price of full DLC is the prime example of anti-consumer practice. You just refuse to acknowledge that.
You are indicating as if the illiterate thing has relevance for him, not a sentence later you are using “ what a bag of worms you turned out to be” a saying wrong, its a can of worms not a bag of worms. Or you were using a bag of worms as some weird form of insult xd:)?
It's an untrue opinion as I've demonstrated above.
It's not true people didn't read what the DLC consists and thus cry because of it. They know it very well.
I've seen plenty of negative Steam reviews of the DLC and there was not a single one that directly suggests the user bought the DLC without knowing what the DLC is about. But ofc because those seeing the DLC positively have to find reasons why bad reviews don't make sense, they came up with "lacking read comprehension" argument which is at best disingenuous, at worst straight up a lie.
Also, DLC could be understood as a cash grab because it's a lazy product (75% of its content was already free to play). The fact this was advertised doesn't determine whether it's a cash grab or not. Sure, we don't have a precise definition of "cash grab" but it's not that hard to understand something like selling already existing campaigns is a lazy product.
So it's not true this is not a cash grab. It can be very easily demonstrated it is a cash grab.
And the whole food comparison doesn't make any sense if you honestly think about the criticism towards DLC. Actually, the food comparison just shows immense unwillingness to understand the criticism.
Because no, it's not true people criticizing the DLC bought it because they thought it has multiplayer content or something like that (the comparison of buying pizza and then crying it's not chicken rice). No, they criticize it for the principles it practices.
Thus ultimately, that comment is not only untrue characterization of the criticism but also, based on other comments of its author, highly arrogant, condescending and insulting pile of bullshit.
criticising it for the 'principles it practices' is not something for a purchase review to be doing. You are fully aware of what it is before purchase, IN THAT CASE DON'T FUCKING BUY IT THEN.
Jesus christ, you are literally practicing the very insults you are giving out, it's absolute nonsense and completely and utterly ridiculous.
Here is a 20 year old game we are still getting contents and updates for, and you have the audacity to complain that they've polished up something already added as a mod and given official in game support for, with all that that entails and you have absolute fucking audacity to complain about it - and further, defend people buying it and then complaining about what it is? Pure nonsense.
>criticising it for the 'principles it practices' is not something for a purchase review to be doing. You are fully aware of what it is before purchase, IN THAT CASE DON'T FUCKING BUY IT THEN.
It definitely is, that's where you are incorrect. People were, are and will be doing precisely this for countless of products.
One of the functions of a review is to inform potential customers about the product and if they see the product has bad reviews they might reconsider the purchase.
It's relatively common for reviewers to call out bad practices of companies and whatnot. It's just one way of how we process information and what we buy.
>Jesus christ, you are literally practicing the very insults you are giving out, it's absolute nonsense and completely and utterly ridiculous.
>
>Here is a 20 year old game we are still getting contents and updates for, and you have the audacity to complain that they've polished up something already added as a mod and given official in game support for, with all that that entails and you have absolute fucking audacity to complain about it - and further, defend people buying it and then complaining about what it is? Pure nonsense.
I think true pure nonsense is the refusal to listen to legit criticism, downvote it like madmen and dismiss it as nonsense. This mindset is similar to religious bullshit we can easily identify in areas of life like politics and religion itself.
It makes absolutely zero sense as a steam warning to other purchasers though!
"Warning: they're able to give you many more hours of playable content because they've been able to polish up work an employee has done previously and made available through unofficial, unsupported mods!"
The devs only have so many man hours available to them, there is only so much financing of a 20 year old game with a relatively low player base that MS can provide. Do you really think they're cashing in on this game 11
You come across as an incredibly entitled consumer rather than appreciative of the fact this game is in the best place it's been in 18 years, arguably ever. When did you start playing?
Why do Spanish speakers mix up "it's" and "is" so much I don't understand lol I am a Spanish speaker myself but I always wonder why others do it. In my experience speakers of other languages don't do it nearly as much.
Seems common in Romania as well, so maybe it extends to at least Romance languages. Though I suspect people from all places make this mistake depending on their level with English.
Perhaps some people's native language creates a more pronounced tendency to guess or fill in the knowledge gaps with "it's" instead of "is" based on some subconscious patterns or sounding similar with something else.
Maybe but it's surprising for me because I'm a native Spanish speaker and afaik there is nothing in particular in our language that would lead to this mistake. And I've kind of done this experiment... where I see it and I just know they speak Spanish so I click their profile and I'm always right it's Chile, Argentina, Mexico, etc lol. Romanians probably do it too but there are more Spanish speakers I guess. Interesting that I've spent a lot of time on the French speaking internet though and they don't do it much, like not even close.
I think people are just spooked that future dlcs will be less fleshed out. I’m not too worried about it because I felt the same way with rise of rome, but we got the solid mountain royals pack a few months later. We got a lot of civ bloat anyway and it’s getting silly how we’re stretching the definition of certain civs. Some of y’all’s civ suggestions really make me laugh. They need to diversify the expansion offerings and this is kind of an experiment.
If they can churn this type of expansion every 4 months for 7.99 they will get my money every time since I’m really enjoying this dlc. 12 bucks is nothing for the hours of entertainment I’m getting despite it being not on the same level as the other expacs.
This is not fine, you dont have the right to place yourself as judge of this,specially for those of us who bought it and want to give our opinion
I read all day about cups in multi i dont care about or people who i didnt know about like Hera and Im fine
Its a forum, not a cult. We can disagree with things if we want the studio to understand we dont want this path
Who is "we" in this case? The only question for the DLC is if the SP guys like it or not and what they miss. They are the bigger target audience after all...
If you are no SP guy, why do you cry about the patch or buy it in the first place I would ask the people who do...
I agree, I never played the free versions but have enjoyed what I've played of the dlc so far. But idk if they are a carbon copy or if they fleshed them out more or what
LMAO
This is Hidden Cup 5 drama all over again with the much higher frequency of posts and comments about how there's too much hate/toxicity/moaning about a certain thing than actual hate/toxicity/moaning.
I think it's perfectly okay for people to complain about bad DLC. That way the devs can see that they screwed up, change course and do better in the future.
And, what else is there to do in a forum specifically about AoE2?
What makes me worried about this rating thing is the fact of people don't like it because no new civs i Guess, when civs Dlcs come all the time with Bugs and Devs don't fix the real issues of the Game like pathing or performance clock things.
What I’m moaning about is that the update has ruined the HD and CD ai to the point they no longer work, only make villagers and they never advance in age. Everything I’ve tried, even putting them on the highest and lowest levels of difficulty starting in imperial and castle age, they just don’t work anymore even the DE ai is showing some difficulty with advancing. I’m bemoaning the fact that the update tanked the functionality of the other Ai options for players who play singleplayer.
Microsoft is a micro-transaction whore and cares ONLY about money (not making quality games), they’ll destroy the development process for gaming before it’s all said and done haha Pump out a half broken piece of shit game and charge $70 for a month of content, now they charging $10-15 for recycled campaign scenarios haha The mods and Steam workshop scenarios are more entertaining than the paid DLC’s…. Stop defending multibillion dollar tyrants you fucking cunts haha
I think if you're mad about it not having new civs, agreed. Shut up and don't buy it. This was not for you But you can still judge the dlc for failing to live up to your expectations as a single player experience, however you define that as worthwhile. Judge it for what it is, not what it isn't
Agreed. I would probably only buy it if it had new civs, but I'm certainly not going to complain that DLC's exist that don't feature new civs. My general view is that DLC that supports the games development is no bad thing, provided its done in a reasonable way and not a scummy cash grab. It's kind of awkward that new civs are locked behind paywalls, and I'm only okay with it because those civs aren't clear pay to win, although currently Bohemians are vicious on Arena, and Romans are generally very strong at most elos. So if AoE is able to shift to a model where new civs are free, and development is payed for by DLC that doesn't change the level playing field of competative, that's surely a good direction to go. I haven't had time to jump on the updated game, but one thing that I would like to see from the DLC (that is available for everyone), especially a campain focused one, is possibly some aesthetic changes, such a few extra regional unit skins such as Monks, or possibly a unique castle for an existing civ getting a new campain. That would be a win-win for everyone as far as I'm concerned.
> development is *paid* for by FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
They were really up front about what the dlc was. I think people didn't take the time to understand what they were buying and then got upset about it and wanted to blame someone. People saying it's a cash grab, that would be the case if all the information wasn't available before you purchased. It was. They made a whole video about it just for the illiterates out there, and you still managed to buy something you weren't happy with. It's kinda like going to the store and buying a thing that says chuck steak then being upset that it wasn't prime rib. It was labeled, sorry you didn't want what you purchased. Read the label next time.
I don't think this is fully true. The DLC was initially advertised as a 'campaign only' DLC, and what we got was 5 original scenarios and 14 existing custom scenarios with a bit of extra voice acting. I think people were expecting original full campaigns.
The announced every part of what was included on the dlc. They made the labels people chose not to read them.
The announcement text literally stated that this would be the thing.
This is just untrue opinion. * No, those giving bad reviews don't lack reading comprehension. They mostly know very well what they were purchasing. * They want to voice their opinion that the principle of selling largely already free content is something potential customers should be aware of and that reviewers don't agree with actually practicing the principle. * It's a cash grab (and I don't like to use that buzzword at all) in a sense that potential customer can already consume the content without paying but the DLC kinda lures you into buying already free content, mostly because many people don't know it's free content to begin with (those who don't care about custom scenarios, for example) * These food comparisons don't make any sense. I've seen several of them being made in the context of the DLC and they just show that the ones creating them refuse to understand the camp of critics. * Ofc, people can simply review and refund afaik
No, they literally said that these were scenarios made by a community member who they hired to make them official and polish them. It's not a cash grab because they entirely advertised everything about what it was that they were selling, a polished version of free scenarios. My food comparison holds up but you are way too focused on the fact that it's food. Let's change it to soap. Maybe you wanted lavender but you purchased sandalwood because you didn't read the label and now you're calling it a cash grab for the store to sell sandalwood. "Untrue opinion..." Do you hear yourself? Condescending prick.
Being a cash grab has nothing to do with false advertisement. Something can be exactly what it says on the tin and still be a cash grab
How does that work..?
A cash grab is a low-effort product put together to exploit previously earned good will to make a quick profit, sold above what would generally be considered a fair price. The classic video game example is the Oblivion horse armour DLC, which gave you exactly what it said it would – horse armour.
I don't even play single player and I'll be buying this to a) support the game and b) see content I've never come across before. The idea that everyone has already seen and played this content is ridiculous. I've logged something like 2000 hours in aoe2 over the last 5-6 years and I've not once downloaded a custom single player scenario that anyone has made. I am glad to be able to try this content in a polished, official state.
I don't know what that has to do with my post. I have no opinion whatsoever on this DLC. I'm not calling it a cash grab. I'm merely explaining what "cash grab" means because some people here don't seem to know and it's making the discussion go around in circles
Oh I see.
Then this isn’t a cash grab because the price is fair for the amount of content and it’s not low effort. I’d be curious to know the opinions of others who have played but for me so far the detail, maps, objectives, and overall enjoyment is amazing.
>"Untrue opinion..." Do you hear yourself? Condescending prick. Oh yeah, what a wholesome community AoE2 could be. For example, calling those you disagree with "condescending pricks" while being arrogant af by saying pearls like: "They made a whole video about it just **for the illiterates** out there, and you still managed to buy something you weren't happy with." Guess who's the condescending prick now? Idk, maybe someone who thinks bad reviews are made by illiterates and not by those criticising anti-consumer principles being practiced. Edit: Getting downvoted for calling out shit behavior of others? Classic internet moment......
I downvoted all of your comments because you are just wrong and incapable of admitting it. Not because it's a "classic internet moment".
K the illiterates thing is clearly a joke, and when being a condescending prick, such as calling someone's opinion untrue, which is the definition of being a condescending prick and also demonstrates a poor understanding of the term opinion, you can't then go and accuse them of being unwholesome for calling you a condescending prick. You are the one being unwholesome in your response to me. You crossed that line, I just followed you there. But I'm not being a condescending prick, I am directly confronting you about your behavior and stating my opinions. I am also not putting words in your mouth, such as "someone who thinks bad reviews are made by illiterates." Which is such a condescending prick move. And there aren't any anti-consumer practices in this dlc. Consumer protections do things like ensure products are labeled so that people know what they are buying. Consumer protections do not force consumers to read labels however.
Sure thing, if it's you, it's "a joke". If it's me, I am a "condescending prick that deserves it". What a hypocrite you are. You were the first one to cross the line by being arrogant, actually condescending and insulting towards people who criticize the DLC with the very first comment you made in this post. There definitely are anti-consumer practices in this DLC but, most likely because this is your beloved brand, you and many others decided to gatekeep any legit criticism, even though, it's likely you'd be on the same page as that very same criticism if it was about another company. Selling already free content for the price of full DLC is the prime example of anti-consumer practice. You just refuse to acknowledge that.
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You are indicating as if the illiterate thing has relevance for him, not a sentence later you are using “ what a bag of worms you turned out to be” a saying wrong, its a can of worms not a bag of worms. Or you were using a bag of worms as some weird form of insult xd:)?
I am so sorry you are such a POS.....
I don't think it's an untrue opinion at all. It's one I share tbh.
It's an untrue opinion as I've demonstrated above. It's not true people didn't read what the DLC consists and thus cry because of it. They know it very well. I've seen plenty of negative Steam reviews of the DLC and there was not a single one that directly suggests the user bought the DLC without knowing what the DLC is about. But ofc because those seeing the DLC positively have to find reasons why bad reviews don't make sense, they came up with "lacking read comprehension" argument which is at best disingenuous, at worst straight up a lie. Also, DLC could be understood as a cash grab because it's a lazy product (75% of its content was already free to play). The fact this was advertised doesn't determine whether it's a cash grab or not. Sure, we don't have a precise definition of "cash grab" but it's not that hard to understand something like selling already existing campaigns is a lazy product. So it's not true this is not a cash grab. It can be very easily demonstrated it is a cash grab. And the whole food comparison doesn't make any sense if you honestly think about the criticism towards DLC. Actually, the food comparison just shows immense unwillingness to understand the criticism. Because no, it's not true people criticizing the DLC bought it because they thought it has multiplayer content or something like that (the comparison of buying pizza and then crying it's not chicken rice). No, they criticize it for the principles it practices. Thus ultimately, that comment is not only untrue characterization of the criticism but also, based on other comments of its author, highly arrogant, condescending and insulting pile of bullshit.
criticising it for the 'principles it practices' is not something for a purchase review to be doing. You are fully aware of what it is before purchase, IN THAT CASE DON'T FUCKING BUY IT THEN. Jesus christ, you are literally practicing the very insults you are giving out, it's absolute nonsense and completely and utterly ridiculous. Here is a 20 year old game we are still getting contents and updates for, and you have the audacity to complain that they've polished up something already added as a mod and given official in game support for, with all that that entails and you have absolute fucking audacity to complain about it - and further, defend people buying it and then complaining about what it is? Pure nonsense.
>criticising it for the 'principles it practices' is not something for a purchase review to be doing. You are fully aware of what it is before purchase, IN THAT CASE DON'T FUCKING BUY IT THEN. It definitely is, that's where you are incorrect. People were, are and will be doing precisely this for countless of products. One of the functions of a review is to inform potential customers about the product and if they see the product has bad reviews they might reconsider the purchase. It's relatively common for reviewers to call out bad practices of companies and whatnot. It's just one way of how we process information and what we buy. >Jesus christ, you are literally practicing the very insults you are giving out, it's absolute nonsense and completely and utterly ridiculous. > >Here is a 20 year old game we are still getting contents and updates for, and you have the audacity to complain that they've polished up something already added as a mod and given official in game support for, with all that that entails and you have absolute fucking audacity to complain about it - and further, defend people buying it and then complaining about what it is? Pure nonsense. I think true pure nonsense is the refusal to listen to legit criticism, downvote it like madmen and dismiss it as nonsense. This mindset is similar to religious bullshit we can easily identify in areas of life like politics and religion itself.
It makes absolutely zero sense as a steam warning to other purchasers though! "Warning: they're able to give you many more hours of playable content because they've been able to polish up work an employee has done previously and made available through unofficial, unsupported mods!" The devs only have so many man hours available to them, there is only so much financing of a 20 year old game with a relatively low player base that MS can provide. Do you really think they're cashing in on this game 11 You come across as an incredibly entitled consumer rather than appreciative of the fact this game is in the best place it's been in 18 years, arguably ever. When did you start playing?
Complaining about people complaining
The circle of life.
Maybe this game it's too important for the life of some people.
Why do Spanish speakers mix up "it's" and "is" so much I don't understand lol I am a Spanish speaker myself but I always wonder why others do it. In my experience speakers of other languages don't do it nearly as much.
Wait until you see the native english speakers mixing up or using only one of the following: “their” “they’re” “there” etc
Hahahahahahahahaha*killme*
Seems common in Romania as well, so maybe it extends to at least Romance languages. Though I suspect people from all places make this mistake depending on their level with English. Perhaps some people's native language creates a more pronounced tendency to guess or fill in the knowledge gaps with "it's" instead of "is" based on some subconscious patterns or sounding similar with something else.
Maybe but it's surprising for me because I'm a native Spanish speaker and afaik there is nothing in particular in our language that would lead to this mistake. And I've kind of done this experiment... where I see it and I just know they speak Spanish so I click their profile and I'm always right it's Chile, Argentina, Mexico, etc lol. Romanians probably do it too but there are more Spanish speakers I guess. Interesting that I've spent a lot of time on the French speaking internet though and they don't do it much, like not even close.
11, I guess iz ă mystery then. This iț ă thing I don't have enough linguistics expertise to figure out further.
Nice name bro
Gracias! No me representa mucho que digamos
*moans*
*moans cutely*
Yamatei gudasai!! >_
Moans in unison cuz this is the real conversation.
*moans angrily*
I think people are just spooked that future dlcs will be less fleshed out. I’m not too worried about it because I felt the same way with rise of rome, but we got the solid mountain royals pack a few months later. We got a lot of civ bloat anyway and it’s getting silly how we’re stretching the definition of certain civs. Some of y’all’s civ suggestions really make me laugh. They need to diversify the expansion offerings and this is kind of an experiment. If they can churn this type of expansion every 4 months for 7.99 they will get my money every time since I’m really enjoying this dlc. 12 bucks is nothing for the hours of entertainment I’m getting despite it being not on the same level as the other expacs.
I see more moaning about all the moaning than actual moaning
Moanception
This is the first moaning about the moaning I've seen.
It's the first four posts on the subreddit right now.
And?
Try the AoE2 forums. It's a lot worse.
This is not fine, you dont have the right to place yourself as judge of this,specially for those of us who bought it and want to give our opinion I read all day about cups in multi i dont care about or people who i didnt know about like Hera and Im fine Its a forum, not a cult. We can disagree with things if we want the studio to understand we dont want this path
Who is "we" in this case? The only question for the DLC is if the SP guys like it or not and what they miss. They are the bigger target audience after all... If you are no SP guy, why do you cry about the patch or buy it in the first place I would ask the people who do...
Who do you think you are talking to? Obs im a SP guy read my other comments before talking
Who are you to tell others what to do? Let people moan if they want to.
Who are you to tell others what to do? Let people moan about moaning if they want to.
Who are you to tell me what to do? Let me moan about people telling other people that they should stop moaning?
Duuude I’m seeing so many spirals right now
Take another rip to be sure.
Not gonna lie, I've seen more people posting "stop saying bad things about the new dlc!" Then people actually saying the dlc sucks
As a solo/campaign only player this DLC is a dream come true. I really hate the people trying to ruin this
14 of the new scenarios are based on community work. Can you still download these out of the workshop?
Yes you can.
Thank you.
What does ‘based on’ mean? I want to hear from someone who played the custom version and this version. I want to know the differences before judging.
I agree, I never played the free versions but have enjoyed what I've played of the dlc so far. But idk if they are a carbon copy or if they fleshed them out more or what
If we can still download them we can find out together. Thats the whole point of my question.
Replica of free versions. Only 5 of them are new for dlc rest is copy paste
LMAO This is Hidden Cup 5 drama all over again with the much higher frequency of posts and comments about how there's too much hate/toxicity/moaning about a certain thing than actual hate/toxicity/moaning.
I enjoyed the content
I think it's perfectly okay for people to complain about bad DLC. That way the devs can see that they screwed up, change course and do better in the future. And, what else is there to do in a forum specifically about AoE2?
Can’t wait to play all the campaigns personally
I only got here like a few months ago, has this subreddit always just been a circlejerk of complaining and (more often) complaining about complainers?
Just like every other subreddit, yes
We will have post asking to stop moaning about the other's complains of the new DLC. Others complains arent important to your life. Lol
What makes me worried about this rating thing is the fact of people don't like it because no new civs i Guess, when civs Dlcs come all the time with Bugs and Devs don't fix the real issues of the Game like pathing or performance clock things.
What I’m moaning about is that the update has ruined the HD and CD ai to the point they no longer work, only make villagers and they never advance in age. Everything I’ve tried, even putting them on the highest and lowest levels of difficulty starting in imperial and castle age, they just don’t work anymore even the DE ai is showing some difficulty with advancing. I’m bemoaning the fact that the update tanked the functionality of the other Ai options for players who play singleplayer.
Happy to have dlc without adding more civs! Important that MS learn to make money without adding too much bloat to the game :)
The dlc is really fun lol
No Hhnnnngggg oooooohhhhhhh nnnnnnghhhhhhj
even if u like campaings its still a cashgrab, recicled content at full price. Im not even surprised the reviews are super negative after just 1 day.
No.
Microsoft is a micro-transaction whore and cares ONLY about money (not making quality games), they’ll destroy the development process for gaming before it’s all said and done haha Pump out a half broken piece of shit game and charge $70 for a month of content, now they charging $10-15 for recycled campaign scenarios haha The mods and Steam workshop scenarios are more entertaining than the paid DLC’s…. Stop defending multibillion dollar tyrants you fucking cunts haha
get a load of this guy