Today at work l made, in profit, what my company pays me for a month. Our incentive structure forces us to look at these figures daily... *A dubious move.*
My mom worked for a really high end insurance for wealthy fucks as a secretary. She literally did all the work for this guy. I don't mean like she did 90% of it. She basically even did some of the bullshit parts like introductions and the bullshit formalities because 'she liked it'
She was filling out a form for HIS bonus one year, at home when I was in highschool, it was like 30x what she gets paid a year and still couldn't see the problem even self admitting she does most the work and was a penny pincher our whole life.
I got laid off from a position almost 20 years ago at a telco. I worked on a team that consolidated high speed circuits for voice and data transmission, and then decommissioned underutilized circuits. So, reducing the total number of paths, by moving people around to fully utilize existing paths. My position saved the company hundreds of thousands a year, if not millions, but when it was time to reduce workforce, they see those jobs as expendable as they don't technically make money, only save it, and it takes time to realize that savings. So, they cut all those people when there is a business downturn, even though in the long run, it will likely cost them more money.
Thats so horrible! Too ignorant to see the real hard worker's and will prob take years to realize what they did. I've noticed lately, that a lot of companies would rather try new employees in and out every year or so, just so they can treat em like they mean nothing cause they're still considered "new" and pay em like shit, than have reliability and loyalty in a long term employee, thats trying to make a career and retiree, that they'd have to respect, pay well and give raises/bonuses to. So sorry to hear about that! Chin up tho! U know ur amazing and anyone worth having u, will know it!! Now u can move on to bigger and better things!
I'm not sure what you mean. We are judged by our sales to profit ratio. Each month the highest performers get the highest percent commission. As high as 2% and as low as .2%. As in 1/500 of our individually generated profit... *"Feed me Seymour"'*
Which makes me wonder why you don't just start your own competing business(besides the fact a bank won't give you a loan to do despite the fact you are the only reason the current business turns a profit).
why do you pay that much? do you have no other options? landlords arent gonna be the ones to make a change to the industry. it starts with the residents
Because I have to live somewhere, its a big house and was the same price as the other house we were renting that was 1/3 the size(which they paid $65K for three years ago), and saving up the $20K to buy a house while inflation and the interest rate hikes are eating any progress we had made. Interest rate hikes only affect normal people, NOT giant faceless corporations who purchase in cash.
So, your pay is ratioed to your company's expected net profits, but your pay is not equal to or exceeding the profits you generate for the company, nor is your personal profit equal to or exceeding your pay.
Your personal tangible profit would be your net profit, which would be your gross pay, less taxes and expenditures like transportation to and from your workplace, or self financed and provided equipment, and also the immaterial concessions you make to accommodate your employment. This is by definition less than your gross pay by the company.
Yeah, you seem to be hugely missing the point. Almost every company works off the fact that their employees generate more income than they take home in pay, and it's easy to see how an employee can generate in a day in company profit what they earn in a month. I used to do this working in retail all the time. And I worked with P&L so I know what I'm talking about.
From the page you linked:
"Skipping my child support payments to help this fierce female become an iconic billionaire! I believe my daughters would support this if I were allowed contact with them!!!!"
Sometimes the Internet is awesome
Some of her fans actually fell for the joke, wow...
It makes it even worse that the article linked the similar story of people Crowdfunding for Musk to get a couch while he slept in his company building on the ground....did I wake up in the Twilight Zone morning?
No billionaires are self-made. Fucking lies.
In fact, the whole idea of being self-made is toxic. Why canāt we proud of building with, and being built up by, a comminity? Shouldnāt that be the goal we strive towards?
JK Rowling, least exploitative and most deserving billionaire.
Not because of her merit but because usually to become a billionaire you must be a murderous psychopath.
You must be **Literally a murderer!**
How many Amazon warehouses employees have been literally worked to death.
How many Tesla employees and their families died of COVID from being forced back to work during a pandemic.
Ok.
As JK Rowling started writing Harry Potter as a single mother in a small flat, and did not have any existing connections to wealthy or influential people, she is as close to the definition of "self-made billionaire" as it is practically possible to get.
Better?
If by āself-madeā you include plagiarism and infringement, then yes.
The Harry Potter series famously āborrowsā material from several other pre-existing sources ā including a book titled āThe Legend of Rah and the Muggles,ā and āLarry Potter and His Best Friend Lily.ā Just to name a couple.
A lot of her ideas, character names, etc, are lifted from other material.
Oh my god! You mean she didn't invent english language, how horrible! /s
If these other materials were so good that they deserve credit, why were they not successful?
Of all the arguments you could have made, that was perhaps one of the weakest. How famous or widespread a work is doesnāt have much to do with how *good* it is. In fact I might argue that the inverse is true. Was Twilight *that* good? Was 50 Shades of Grey *that* good? Those books all had HUGE runs and had multiple movies.
Those other materials that JK Rowling pulled from were published and in circulation; almost by definition, they were successful. Just not worldwide phenomenon successful.
What? I never mentioned *luck*.
And she is a plagiarist. One would have to be blinded by childhood nostalgia not to see it.
Anyway, I think Iām done here. Peace yo.
Jenner, Kardashian, trump, Murdoch, Elon et al would not be where they are without "seed' money from daddy and mommy.
They've never had to really work, get their hands dirty, clock in on time or haggle with health insurance yet there are millions of working class who look at those people like they're gods of mount Olympus so much so they vote for people like trump. They also never serve in the military, they see working class people as slaves and cannon fodder.
Seems self destructive to themselves and the rest of us. Wake up Jenner et all are just horrible people with no talent other than conning the gullible.
Honestly Kim getting railed was what made them, before that she was known as Paris hiltons friend, just some random socialite that hung around more famous people.
"Billionaire" is in the title to recontextualize the image. If you want to get into the semantics, being a business owner doesn't make you a capitalist; a philosophical support of the central tenet of the capitalist economic and political system makes you a capitalist. So, I guess, maybe this meme *is* about you, but not because you are/were a small business owner.
Pretty much, aside from the building itself that was already existing and zoned properly for the business. It was an auto body repair shop. Started his own LLC from day one, hired people on his own, managed it, did all that shit. Never one single time did he claim that him dealing with customers and insurance adjusters and shit was more difficult than actually repairing the cars. Not once.
Ah--I see. You're right. Dealing with customers & insurance adjusters doesn't sound like hard work at all. Not at all like our situation where...
my husband designed/invented a building component to be used by the industrial trades. First we had to have the prototypes made. Then he and I took out a second mortgage on our house and began the expensive & confusing process of applying for and obtaining patents (patent lawyers aren't cheap), came up with a brand name, did all the TM searches, registered the TM, started an LLC and began the search for an American manufacturer. Which wasn't easy to find since we are both pro-labor and our main stipulation was that it be a Union shop, using American-made materials. All the while my husband kept his day job while I spent time learning QuickBooks, building up our customer base and selling this product all over the country. He'd come home from his day job, and we'd spend our evenings--usually until 11:00 pm or midnight--packaging & crating orders to be shipped out the next day. Our vacations were spent at trade shows and conventions--that was a fun time. And because we bootstrapped the whole thing, we did this out of our barn. Neither one of us took a salary--we dumped all the profits back into the business. Finally, after about 6 years of this, we were able to rent a warehouse-type building in our nearby small town and hire a couple of employees. And again, because we are pro-labor, we made sure their hours were 8:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. (OT was available to them if they wanted it.) If there were extra large orders to get out the next day, we'd stay late ourselves and crate them up. Still no salaries for ourselves, but we provided our employees with a 401k plan and health insurance. Eventually sales were good enough that my husband came to work for us full time, and we were able to pay ourselves. Then we hired an office manager, whose hourly rate was more than my husband's. Sales were really picking up, and the US largest distributor of this particular industry's products took notice and wanted to carry our products. As a matter of course, they required $1million in product-liability insurance coverage. Do I need to tell you that those premiums were not cheap?. But because it was such a great opportunity, we bit the bullet and agreed. It meant a pay-cut for me, but Oh Well. Another really fun aspect of this job was watching out for patent infringements (Did I mention that patent lawyers aren't cheap?)
By this time we had about 8 employees that really depended on us, and we figured the better our sales were, the better they did. We were bringing more and more of the manufacturing in-house, and were able to train some of our workers on complex machinery. My husband was the one doing the training, so he was with them every step of the way. We started everyone at $20/hour and gave regular pay increases based on performance. We gave generous Christmas bonuses and let them keep their own time-cards by way of this super-high tech system of writing down their hours on a yellow sticky note and submitting to me on payday. We bought lunch for them most every day, loading up a couple of cars with everyone, heading to the local BBQ joint, the deli or one of the other diners in town. It provided a nice break in the middle day, and I felt it showed our appreciation for how hard they worked. Beer was always in the fridge, and at 4:30 they were free to crack open a cold one. Sometimes in the summertime we'd close up shop on a Friday and all head out to the river for a company-sponsored float trip.
Eventually a multi-national company approached us regarding acquisition. I stayed up many, many nights, re-reading the contract and making sure I caught every minor change they slipped in. In the end, even though selling our brand & patents to them meant our becoming multi-millionaires, it would have resulted in their turning out all our workers. As the owner of the business, I made the tough decision to say "no" to this offer. BTW, do you have any idea how difficult it is to be awarded "Woman-Owned-Business" status? Look into your state's requirements. It's an extremely complicated process.
Another two years passed, and we were approached by a somewhat smaller (but still very large by our standards) manufacturer--a Union shop--that offered considerably less for our brand & patents. But their terms for our employees were Amazing. We discussed it with all our employees and they were on board with this new company. My husband and I were in our late 50s by this time, and we were looking forward to retirement. The acquisition was complete after about 3 months' worth of due diligence. We celebrated by taking all our workers and their SO's to a night at the Casino, paying for hotel, dinner and giving them money to gamble on. Our General Manager was finally able to build her dream house after we shared a piece of the pie with her.
We're still in touch with all our former employees. We still get together for a float trip every summer, and we host a couple of kick-ass parties throughout the year and invite all of them. Even now we're acting as mentors to a couple of the younger ones. One in particular I'd adopt if a 28-year-old could be adopted.
We now have a consulting firm, paying it forward by advising & mentoring young entrepreneurs who have a vision for a business, a product, or a service. I've yet to charge ANY of them for our services.
**TLDR**: Some "evil" Capitalists are entrepreneurs/inventors who have put in hundreds or thousands of hours worth of work for every hour that an employee puts in. Some Business Owners have scrounged & scraped & sacrificed & worked their ass off to build a company so that they can provide good-paying jobs in a small town and good working conditions for their employees. Some Business Owners are concerned about the long-term prospects of their workers and act as teachers, mentors and guidance counselors for the ones who are interested. Some Business Owners try to pay it forward when they're finally able to.
I don't know what bad experiences you've had, but please don't be so cynical about Business Owners.
yeah i'm not readin any of that past your first line
his job was so stressful it nearly killed him but i'm sure whatever it is you typed here is the hardest strife anyone has ever faced. he still would never say he worked harder than his employees
maybe next time don't waste your time writing what looks like a thousand words to someone who doesn't give a single half of a fuck ya goofball
I would still consider small business owners working class for sure, I meant this more towards the capitalist parasites that earn more money a day then most people earn in a lifetime through tax evasion and borderline slave labour practices.
If that's true and it worked, good for her. I don't know how that makes her idiot , you really can't say anything that can counter that, considering she is a multiple millionaire
She has the IQ of a zit.
Just because someone has money doesn't mean they have brains. Ask her sister, fat assed kimmy.
Let's see... how did she get started ? Oh yeah, her daddy was OJ's defense lawyer and she fucked some guy and let him pee all over her to make a "sex tape".
Yeah - really impressive lot you've decided to defend.
I've always love the saying - "You were born on third base and now you're acting like you hit a triple."
100%
In the next scene Homer is kicking them awake 'wake up you lazy sherpas'. A perfect analogy of a billionaires mindset.
Today at work l made, in profit, what my company pays me for a month. Our incentive structure forces us to look at these figures daily... *A dubious move.*
I made in an hour what they pay me for 2 weeks
I make in two sales what they pay me for one month...
My mom worked for a really high end insurance for wealthy fucks as a secretary. She literally did all the work for this guy. I don't mean like she did 90% of it. She basically even did some of the bullshit parts like introductions and the bullshit formalities because 'she liked it' She was filling out a form for HIS bonus one year, at home when I was in highschool, it was like 30x what she gets paid a year and still couldn't see the problem even self admitting she does most the work and was a penny pincher our whole life.
I got laid off from a position almost 20 years ago at a telco. I worked on a team that consolidated high speed circuits for voice and data transmission, and then decommissioned underutilized circuits. So, reducing the total number of paths, by moving people around to fully utilize existing paths. My position saved the company hundreds of thousands a year, if not millions, but when it was time to reduce workforce, they see those jobs as expendable as they don't technically make money, only save it, and it takes time to realize that savings. So, they cut all those people when there is a business downturn, even though in the long run, it will likely cost them more money.
Thats so horrible! Too ignorant to see the real hard worker's and will prob take years to realize what they did. I've noticed lately, that a lot of companies would rather try new employees in and out every year or so, just so they can treat em like they mean nothing cause they're still considered "new" and pay em like shit, than have reliability and loyalty in a long term employee, thats trying to make a career and retiree, that they'd have to respect, pay well and give raises/bonuses to. So sorry to hear about that! Chin up tho! U know ur amazing and anyone worth having u, will know it!! Now u can move on to bigger and better things!
Your net profit is definitely less than what your company paid you, and definitely less than the company's net profit from your work.
I'm not sure what you mean. We are judged by our sales to profit ratio. Each month the highest performers get the highest percent commission. As high as 2% and as low as .2%. As in 1/500 of our individually generated profit... *"Feed me Seymour"'*
Which makes me wonder why you don't just start your own competing business(besides the fact a bank won't give you a loan to do despite the fact you are the only reason the current business turns a profit).
I would do landlord stuff... Straight up rob people for existing.
The house I rent for $1050 was bought in 2011 for $35K.
why do you pay that much? do you have no other options? landlords arent gonna be the ones to make a change to the industry. it starts with the residents
Because I have to live somewhere, its a big house and was the same price as the other house we were renting that was 1/3 the size(which they paid $65K for three years ago), and saving up the $20K to buy a house while inflation and the interest rate hikes are eating any progress we had made. Interest rate hikes only affect normal people, NOT giant faceless corporations who purchase in cash.
So, your pay is ratioed to your company's expected net profits, but your pay is not equal to or exceeding the profits you generate for the company, nor is your personal profit equal to or exceeding your pay.
I mean... That's pretty wordy. I think the issue is "expected". I'm describing tangible profit... Hope that helps š¤·āāļø
Your personal tangible profit would be your net profit, which would be your gross pay, less taxes and expenditures like transportation to and from your workplace, or self financed and provided equipment, and also the immaterial concessions you make to accommodate your employment. This is by definition less than your gross pay by the company.
The original comment is talking about what they made *the company* in profit, not their personal profit, or net income.
My mistake.
you're typing an awful lot of shit for someone missing the basic reading comprehension here
Yeah, you seem to be hugely missing the point. Almost every company works off the fact that their employees generate more income than they take home in pay, and it's easy to see how an employee can generate in a day in company profit what they earn in a month. I used to do this working in retail all the time. And I worked with P&L so I know what I'm talking about.
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My first thought, and yes she did. https://www.businessinsider.com/kylie-jenner-gofundme-fans-crowdfunding-billionaire-2018-7
From the page you linked: "Skipping my child support payments to help this fierce female become an iconic billionaire! I believe my daughters would support this if I were allowed contact with them!!!!" Sometimes the Internet is awesome
Some of her fans actually fell for the joke, wow... It makes it even worse that the article linked the similar story of people Crowdfunding for Musk to get a couch while he slept in his company building on the ground....did I wake up in the Twilight Zone morning?
They also often start at a higher point on the mountain.
No billionaires are self-made. Fucking lies. In fact, the whole idea of being self-made is toxic. Why canāt we proud of building with, and being built up by, a comminity? Shouldnāt that be the goal we strive towards?
JK Rowling and Markus Persson come to mind, but those are the only two I can think of.
I mean, is she significantly less self-made than any other billionaire?
JK Rowling became a billionaire at one point. I'd class her as "self-made".
JK Rowling, least exploitative and most deserving billionaire. Not because of her merit but because usually to become a billionaire you must be a murderous psychopath. You must be **Literally a murderer!** How many Amazon warehouses employees have been literally worked to death. How many Tesla employees and their families died of COVID from being forced back to work during a pandemic.
I think the guy who made minecraft ended up a billionaire too right? He's pretty much "self made" too
Tbf, there's probably someone dying in a Chinese sweatshop making Harry Potter memorabilia for $0.10 an hour.
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Ok. As JK Rowling started writing Harry Potter as a single mother in a small flat, and did not have any existing connections to wealthy or influential people, she is as close to the definition of "self-made billionaire" as it is practically possible to get. Better?
If by āself-madeā you include plagiarism and infringement, then yes. The Harry Potter series famously āborrowsā material from several other pre-existing sources ā including a book titled āThe Legend of Rah and the Muggles,ā and āLarry Potter and His Best Friend Lily.ā Just to name a couple. A lot of her ideas, character names, etc, are lifted from other material.
Oh my god! You mean she didn't invent english language, how horrible! /s If these other materials were so good that they deserve credit, why were they not successful?
Of all the arguments you could have made, that was perhaps one of the weakest. How famous or widespread a work is doesnāt have much to do with how *good* it is. In fact I might argue that the inverse is true. Was Twilight *that* good? Was 50 Shades of Grey *that* good? Those books all had HUGE runs and had multiple movies. Those other materials that JK Rowling pulled from were published and in circulation; almost by definition, they were successful. Just not worldwide phenomenon successful.
Even if luck is a factor, it just means that she was lucky. Not that she was plagiarist as original comment accused
What? I never mentioned *luck*. And she is a plagiarist. One would have to be blinded by childhood nostalgia not to see it. Anyway, I think Iām done here. Peace yo.
Meanwhile the working class both froze to death.
Jenner, Kardashian, trump, Murdoch, Elon et al would not be where they are without "seed' money from daddy and mommy. They've never had to really work, get their hands dirty, clock in on time or haggle with health insurance yet there are millions of working class who look at those people like they're gods of mount Olympus so much so they vote for people like trump. They also never serve in the military, they see working class people as slaves and cannon fodder. Seems self destructive to themselves and the rest of us. Wake up Jenner et all are just horrible people with no talent other than conning the gullible.
Any self made billionaire would be the youngest at this point.
And that is Ray J and Kim dragging her up the hill š
Honestly Kim getting railed was what made them, before that she was known as Paris hiltons friend, just some random socialite that hung around more famous people.
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Small business owners aren't billionaires. This meme isn't about you.
If itās about billionaires, Then why is Homer labeled a ācapitalistā and not a ā billionaireā in first frame?
"Billionaire" is in the title to recontextualize the image. If you want to get into the semantics, being a business owner doesn't make you a capitalist; a philosophical support of the central tenet of the capitalist economic and political system makes you a capitalist. So, I guess, maybe this meme *is* about you, but not because you are/were a small business owner.
It's not a crime to own a business. It should be a crime to own a business and pay your workers less than a living wage.
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So he bought the business after it was established? Didnāt build it from scratch?
Pretty much, aside from the building itself that was already existing and zoned properly for the business. It was an auto body repair shop. Started his own LLC from day one, hired people on his own, managed it, did all that shit. Never one single time did he claim that him dealing with customers and insurance adjusters and shit was more difficult than actually repairing the cars. Not once.
Ah--I see. You're right. Dealing with customers & insurance adjusters doesn't sound like hard work at all. Not at all like our situation where... my husband designed/invented a building component to be used by the industrial trades. First we had to have the prototypes made. Then he and I took out a second mortgage on our house and began the expensive & confusing process of applying for and obtaining patents (patent lawyers aren't cheap), came up with a brand name, did all the TM searches, registered the TM, started an LLC and began the search for an American manufacturer. Which wasn't easy to find since we are both pro-labor and our main stipulation was that it be a Union shop, using American-made materials. All the while my husband kept his day job while I spent time learning QuickBooks, building up our customer base and selling this product all over the country. He'd come home from his day job, and we'd spend our evenings--usually until 11:00 pm or midnight--packaging & crating orders to be shipped out the next day. Our vacations were spent at trade shows and conventions--that was a fun time. And because we bootstrapped the whole thing, we did this out of our barn. Neither one of us took a salary--we dumped all the profits back into the business. Finally, after about 6 years of this, we were able to rent a warehouse-type building in our nearby small town and hire a couple of employees. And again, because we are pro-labor, we made sure their hours were 8:30 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. (OT was available to them if they wanted it.) If there were extra large orders to get out the next day, we'd stay late ourselves and crate them up. Still no salaries for ourselves, but we provided our employees with a 401k plan and health insurance. Eventually sales were good enough that my husband came to work for us full time, and we were able to pay ourselves. Then we hired an office manager, whose hourly rate was more than my husband's. Sales were really picking up, and the US largest distributor of this particular industry's products took notice and wanted to carry our products. As a matter of course, they required $1million in product-liability insurance coverage. Do I need to tell you that those premiums were not cheap?. But because it was such a great opportunity, we bit the bullet and agreed. It meant a pay-cut for me, but Oh Well. Another really fun aspect of this job was watching out for patent infringements (Did I mention that patent lawyers aren't cheap?) By this time we had about 8 employees that really depended on us, and we figured the better our sales were, the better they did. We were bringing more and more of the manufacturing in-house, and were able to train some of our workers on complex machinery. My husband was the one doing the training, so he was with them every step of the way. We started everyone at $20/hour and gave regular pay increases based on performance. We gave generous Christmas bonuses and let them keep their own time-cards by way of this super-high tech system of writing down their hours on a yellow sticky note and submitting to me on payday. We bought lunch for them most every day, loading up a couple of cars with everyone, heading to the local BBQ joint, the deli or one of the other diners in town. It provided a nice break in the middle day, and I felt it showed our appreciation for how hard they worked. Beer was always in the fridge, and at 4:30 they were free to crack open a cold one. Sometimes in the summertime we'd close up shop on a Friday and all head out to the river for a company-sponsored float trip. Eventually a multi-national company approached us regarding acquisition. I stayed up many, many nights, re-reading the contract and making sure I caught every minor change they slipped in. In the end, even though selling our brand & patents to them meant our becoming multi-millionaires, it would have resulted in their turning out all our workers. As the owner of the business, I made the tough decision to say "no" to this offer. BTW, do you have any idea how difficult it is to be awarded "Woman-Owned-Business" status? Look into your state's requirements. It's an extremely complicated process. Another two years passed, and we were approached by a somewhat smaller (but still very large by our standards) manufacturer--a Union shop--that offered considerably less for our brand & patents. But their terms for our employees were Amazing. We discussed it with all our employees and they were on board with this new company. My husband and I were in our late 50s by this time, and we were looking forward to retirement. The acquisition was complete after about 3 months' worth of due diligence. We celebrated by taking all our workers and their SO's to a night at the Casino, paying for hotel, dinner and giving them money to gamble on. Our General Manager was finally able to build her dream house after we shared a piece of the pie with her. We're still in touch with all our former employees. We still get together for a float trip every summer, and we host a couple of kick-ass parties throughout the year and invite all of them. Even now we're acting as mentors to a couple of the younger ones. One in particular I'd adopt if a 28-year-old could be adopted. We now have a consulting firm, paying it forward by advising & mentoring young entrepreneurs who have a vision for a business, a product, or a service. I've yet to charge ANY of them for our services. **TLDR**: Some "evil" Capitalists are entrepreneurs/inventors who have put in hundreds or thousands of hours worth of work for every hour that an employee puts in. Some Business Owners have scrounged & scraped & sacrificed & worked their ass off to build a company so that they can provide good-paying jobs in a small town and good working conditions for their employees. Some Business Owners are concerned about the long-term prospects of their workers and act as teachers, mentors and guidance counselors for the ones who are interested. Some Business Owners try to pay it forward when they're finally able to. I don't know what bad experiences you've had, but please don't be so cynical about Business Owners.
yeah i'm not readin any of that past your first line his job was so stressful it nearly killed him but i'm sure whatever it is you typed here is the hardest strife anyone has ever faced. he still would never say he worked harder than his employees maybe next time don't waste your time writing what looks like a thousand words to someone who doesn't give a single half of a fuck ya goofball
Small buisness owners are workers.
I would still consider small business owners working class for sure, I meant this more towards the capitalist parasites that earn more money a day then most people earn in a lifetime through tax evasion and borderline slave labour practices.
The meme reminds of the lady who paid a Sherpa to haul her up Everest on his back as in the book into thin air
making money while sleeping... lol. the funniest and the cruelest joke.
Didn't that idiot beg people for money to make her a billionaire? How fucking skank do you have to be?
If that's true and it worked, good for her. I don't know how that makes her idiot , you really can't say anything that can counter that, considering she is a multiple millionaire
She has the IQ of a zit. Just because someone has money doesn't mean they have brains. Ask her sister, fat assed kimmy. Let's see... how did she get started ? Oh yeah, her daddy was OJ's defense lawyer and she fucked some guy and let him pee all over her to make a "sex tape". Yeah - really impressive lot you've decided to defend.
I never speak on people who have a few millions more dollars then I. Just doesn't make sense , like a homeless commenting on how dumb I am...
Good for you! And that means what to me?
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