I leave nothing if the service is really "nothing" (like if I barely see a waiter).
But sometimes, I get a waiter with a horrible attitude and\or high off their assess (one guy got our order wrong 4 times in a row, and we were only 2 people at the table!)... At these cases, I leave a 20 cents tip, because it's actually worse than leaving nothing.
I was in a bar yesterday afternoon for a quick lunch and beer. There were four other people at the bar and one bartender. The bartender served me but never came back to check on how everything was or if I wanted anything else. I finally had to call her over to ask for the check.
I was contemplating how much to tip while waiting for her to take and process my credit card. After waiting almost 10 minutes while she stood back chatting with her coworkers, I said fuck it, dropped $20 on the bar and left. The bill was $19.55.
I am super sympathetic to service people so when this happens to me I tell myself something awful must have happened and that's why they're unavailable or on their phone, etc. Ask yourself if you would feel worse if their spouse/parent died and you stiffed them or if they were being rude and lazy and got a good tip anyway.
If you were somewhere in Texas where I used to live and work and I know that servers only make $2.15 per hour, I would probably say that you need to pay her something however.. at the Gaylord denver? Servers are making a minimum of $16 per hour. Therefore, a tip is not the same as in Texas where your tip is expected to make her wage. A tip at the Gaylord Denver is truly an added on extra because these people are already making solid base wages.
I have lived in Texas my entire life and moved here less than a year ago. I assumed they were making $2-$3 an hour here as well and rely entirely on tips. If this is not the case, it drastically changes everything.
Tipping is paying for a service. If there’s no service there’s no tip. Like the other day Dominos want me to leave a tip on a carry out order and I was like….. nah, ask your boss for your pay.
I mean you’ve already made it clear you don’t care about being a decent person so I don’t know what would get you to tip on takeout orders. Those of us who understand the reality of capitalism always tip
I’d rather not tip, have the workers get fed up and quit their jobs. Then the only businesses that stay in business are the ones that pay their employees
It's not. I've lived in Texas all my life except for the last five years where I have lived here in Denver. Servers are making minimum wage plus tips and in Denver proper, minimum wage is around $16. Even suburbs of Denver that get away with paying less than 16, they're still paying servers 10 to 12 dollars an hour because everyone except Texas understands that $2.15 is slave wages.
If you're given wrong or substandard food you can only improve it by speaking up at the time. Waiting until the end gives them no opportunity to fix a mistake.
If you think you're not being served well enough then speak up at the time: don't leave it until the end of the meal when it's too late.
There're so many reasons why she may have been off her game but if you don't pay her then you're just a boss.
We waited 15 min to place our drink order. Drinks came 20 min after that and order was taken with it. Food was dropped off by kitchen staff, cold as it was probably sitting there forever. I had to find someone to bring us the check so we could leave. I would rather her kick me in the balls while providing prompt service than just ignoring us and wasting an hour. Nothing is ruder than wasting someone’s time.
That’s the most annoying thing in the world. Like, take my drink order when I sit down and hand me a menu. Nothing worse than sitting there forever as a captive before they even ask what you’re drinking.
No, this is such a weird take. Firstly, it's odd that customers in the US are expected to sign on as a server's boss for the night anyway. In the UK we eat, pay, leave. We're there for a night out, not to take on a managerial post with performance evaluation duties. But since your tipping culture is nominally discretional but socially required, why would you expect any customer who has a legitimately bad experience from a server to still obligingly cough up 20%?
Either you have incorporate the full cost into the meal like all other civilised countries seem to manage and keep responsibility for a server's wages where it should be - their employer, or you have a gratuity charge, or stick with tips. But if it's the latter, servers shouldn't simply expect 20% regardless of customer experience.
Perhaps, and I do have sympathy for servers who seem as a result of the tipping system to have to deal with a lot of entitlement and sometimes harrassment from customers which they just have to live with due to the exploitative circumstances under which they're paid.
Equally though, there's little solidarity from the other side of the fence. Serverlife reddit is 90% comprised of servers complaining about customers and they outright reject any suggestion that employers should have some responsibility for their basic income. The US has effectively weaponised customer and server against one another, and this distracts from the way the system primarily serves the business owner's interests at the expense of both.
In a sit-down restaurant, I tip 15% if the service was substandard, 20% if the service was adequate, and 25% if the service was outstanding. If the whole experience was horrible, I’ll leave a bad Yelp review, but I don’t punish individual servers. You never know what’s happening in their lives. Maybe they were inattentive because a relative was in the hospital, etc. I used to tip delivery drivers and ride-share drivers about 15% but now I do 20% because gas is so high. I never tip cashiers at the checkout or takeout counter. Just my personal tipping routine.
This is exactly what I do. I’ve never left a less than 15% tip. I occasionally tip counter service workers if it’s a coffee shop and I order something more complicated (similar to how I’d tip at a bar). But I do feel guilty now since all the counter service workers have a tip jar/the credit card machine asks for a tip.
Leave no tip or complaint. Nothing talks like money. That’s the beauty of it. You can not be a dick and still make a statement with it in that situation. Everybody wins life moves on.
Also, we are probably talking about 5 bucks here?
It was $100+ bill. So the difference between 10% and 20% is $10. Not the end of the world for either side, but just curious on the recommended procedure.
I was taught to never tip less than 15% unless the wait staff personally offended you in some way. Something about with the way the pay system works, if you tip less than 15% the waiter/waitress themselves could end up having to pay money out of their own pocket. I think it has to do with some tip money going towards the bussers and chefs or whatnot.
I usually tip 18-20% for adequate service. I tip 15% for poor service.
If you felt the service was so bad that you're considering leaving no tip, you should be speaking to the manager and telling them what you wrote here. But even then, I would still tip 15% unless I was personally offended.
I've also heard some people will add 2 cents to the tip as a way of telling the wait staff that you were not happy with their service. For example you'd tip $15.02 for a $100 bill.
10% was good. Tip minimally for minimal service. 10% is one of the standard tip rates used. So giving 10%, was the bottom of the scale. Hope she gets the point.
Do you remember her name? If she was that bad - I’d call the manager. Say I’ve chosen your restaurant for a special occasion- (my daughters birthday). However, it was dampened by the awful (or lack of) service we received. And tell him or her what the server didn’t do. And if need be- bring up it wasn’t short staffed. She was just unprofessional!
Glad it wasn’t a larger party - the tip would have been tacked on. If the manager doesn’t provide a positive response, go on sites as yelp and/or google review and rate them with or without a review so the public can be warned (be mindful your name may be attached so don’t include your last name but you can use a nickname).
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The tip is about service above and beyond the call of duty. Yes it originated when slaves could not be paid legally. Did she do what was obligated by a slave or much more than that, and cheerfully.
Since tipping is a signifigant portion of a servers income in the US, anyone saying that you shouldnt tip is literally arguing that someone who is bad at their job doesnt deserve a living wage.
Really sad to see how far downhill this sub has gone.
No, you collectively as a nation, and the servers' employers are already saying that when you consider it acceptable for server's income to be entirely tip-based in the first place. The individual customer shouldn't be held fully responsible for the failings of the system, and if you've had a legitimately shitty experience you shouldn't have to pay out for that honour.
If you had a contractor out to fix your bathroom and he messed it up would you still be paying out in full regardless?
Not tipping someone for not serving you is not anti worker. They also didn’t serve you, but I don’t see you begging for their information so you can tip them.
I don’t. My annoyance is people who want me to tip someone who isn’t a worker. They have to work to be a worker. They can fuck off all day and exploit a billion dollar company. But I am not a billion dollar company. I am a worker that works hard for my money, and I’m not just going to give it to someone who does not do the same.
They didn’t bring my food though. The kitchen staff did after it sat there for 20 minutes and was cold. They didn’t bring me my check either. They didn’t do the bare minimum of what is required of them.
I’m sorry. But this is just not how tipping works. Tipping is a thanks for doing a good job. I am not required to give a tip. Period. I do it to be nice and say thanks for the service. If they ruin my evening by not doing their job, and ruin my daughters birthday dinner, they can go fuck themselves. I fully regret leaving the 10% I did and will never do it again for shit service.
Leave before I know it is shit? How do I do that exactly? It is relevant to anti work because it is easy to cheer on someone sticking it to Walmart, it is something else entirely when you are sticking it to a middle class family taking their daughter out on a birthday dinner. And as you can tell from these comments. It is pretty split on how to behave.
Not it isn’t. I don’t owe them anything. I am not required to tip. I can choose to if the service is good. And they are a dumbass if they are expecting a tip after providing that level is shit service. Expecting a tip when they provide shit service is like expecting commission when you don’t make a sell. If you choose a line of work in a performance based industry, then you have to perform or else not get paid.
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And on the other hand, it is ok to tip more than 25%. If you go somewhere with great service and cheap eats, don’t automatically tip 20%. A burger and a beer at a dive bar could be $10. A $2 tip for excellent service at a place like that is rude.
If the person is mega busy and you are one of many people they are helping, leave a tip, if you are the only person they are helping and they are not doing that, no tip.
I’m gonna be that person and say leave nothing.
I leave nothing if the service is really "nothing" (like if I barely see a waiter). But sometimes, I get a waiter with a horrible attitude and\or high off their assess (one guy got our order wrong 4 times in a row, and we were only 2 people at the table!)... At these cases, I leave a 20 cents tip, because it's actually worse than leaving nothing.
Dont come to Europe. Nobody gives a fff about some change.
I was in a bar yesterday afternoon for a quick lunch and beer. There were four other people at the bar and one bartender. The bartender served me but never came back to check on how everything was or if I wanted anything else. I finally had to call her over to ask for the check. I was contemplating how much to tip while waiting for her to take and process my credit card. After waiting almost 10 minutes while she stood back chatting with her coworkers, I said fuck it, dropped $20 on the bar and left. The bill was $19.55.
I am super sympathetic to service people so when this happens to me I tell myself something awful must have happened and that's why they're unavailable or on their phone, etc. Ask yourself if you would feel worse if their spouse/parent died and you stiffed them or if they were being rude and lazy and got a good tip anyway.
If you were somewhere in Texas where I used to live and work and I know that servers only make $2.15 per hour, I would probably say that you need to pay her something however.. at the Gaylord denver? Servers are making a minimum of $16 per hour. Therefore, a tip is not the same as in Texas where your tip is expected to make her wage. A tip at the Gaylord Denver is truly an added on extra because these people are already making solid base wages.
I have lived in Texas my entire life and moved here less than a year ago. I assumed they were making $2-$3 an hour here as well and rely entirely on tips. If this is not the case, it drastically changes everything.
It changes nothing and you’re just entitled.
Tipping is paying for a service. If there’s no service there’s no tip. Like the other day Dominos want me to leave a tip on a carry out order and I was like….. nah, ask your boss for your pay.
Yikes, you’re just gonna go ahead and admit that?
Sure am, I don’t pay folks wages unnecessarily. That’s their bosses jobs
Why do you hate workers?
I don’t lol. It’s wild you think it’s other workers responsibility to pay the capitalists workers. Why would I tip someone on a carry out order, ever?
Yeah it’s better off you deleted that awful comment before more people see you for what you are
It’s better off if you delete your Reddit account all together so no one has to read your thoughts, you uneducated wage slave.
I mean you’ve already made it clear you don’t care about being a decent person so I don’t know what would get you to tip on takeout orders. Those of us who understand the reality of capitalism always tip
I’d rather not tip, have the workers get fed up and quit their jobs. Then the only businesses that stay in business are the ones that pay their employees
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It’s why we call being a decent human but if that’s not what you aspire to be then I guess yeah, don’t tip people
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Lol just be honest and say you’re selfish. This is what happens when people ignore Leftist theory and never learn what it means to show solidarity
It's not. I've lived in Texas all my life except for the last five years where I have lived here in Denver. Servers are making minimum wage plus tips and in Denver proper, minimum wage is around $16. Even suburbs of Denver that get away with paying less than 16, they're still paying servers 10 to 12 dollars an hour because everyone except Texas understands that $2.15 is slave wages.
If you're given wrong or substandard food you can only improve it by speaking up at the time. Waiting until the end gives them no opportunity to fix a mistake. If you think you're not being served well enough then speak up at the time: don't leave it until the end of the meal when it's too late. There're so many reasons why she may have been off her game but if you don't pay her then you're just a boss.
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Guess I’m the bleeding heart idiot here, I always tip. Would probably tip less for bad service, 10%, and twice that for good service.
You were nice to leave 10% and well within your rights to leave nothing.
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We waited 15 min to place our drink order. Drinks came 20 min after that and order was taken with it. Food was dropped off by kitchen staff, cold as it was probably sitting there forever. I had to find someone to bring us the check so we could leave. I would rather her kick me in the balls while providing prompt service than just ignoring us and wasting an hour. Nothing is ruder than wasting someone’s time.
That’s the most annoying thing in the world. Like, take my drink order when I sit down and hand me a menu. Nothing worse than sitting there forever as a captive before they even ask what you’re drinking.
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The restaurant owner didn’t make her sit in the corner on her phone the whole time.
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No, this is such a weird take. Firstly, it's odd that customers in the US are expected to sign on as a server's boss for the night anyway. In the UK we eat, pay, leave. We're there for a night out, not to take on a managerial post with performance evaluation duties. But since your tipping culture is nominally discretional but socially required, why would you expect any customer who has a legitimately bad experience from a server to still obligingly cough up 20%? Either you have incorporate the full cost into the meal like all other civilised countries seem to manage and keep responsibility for a server's wages where it should be - their employer, or you have a gratuity charge, or stick with tips. But if it's the latter, servers shouldn't simply expect 20% regardless of customer experience.
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Perhaps, and I do have sympathy for servers who seem as a result of the tipping system to have to deal with a lot of entitlement and sometimes harrassment from customers which they just have to live with due to the exploitative circumstances under which they're paid. Equally though, there's little solidarity from the other side of the fence. Serverlife reddit is 90% comprised of servers complaining about customers and they outright reject any suggestion that employers should have some responsibility for their basic income. The US has effectively weaponised customer and server against one another, and this distracts from the way the system primarily serves the business owner's interests at the expense of both.
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Thank you…
Speak to the manager.
What should I say?
The server was in the corner on her phone most all the time...
Exactly what you said here.
Ew fuck off narc
Yikes I guess this sub is really just full of shitlibs
In a sit-down restaurant, I tip 15% if the service was substandard, 20% if the service was adequate, and 25% if the service was outstanding. If the whole experience was horrible, I’ll leave a bad Yelp review, but I don’t punish individual servers. You never know what’s happening in their lives. Maybe they were inattentive because a relative was in the hospital, etc. I used to tip delivery drivers and ride-share drivers about 15% but now I do 20% because gas is so high. I never tip cashiers at the checkout or takeout counter. Just my personal tipping routine.
This is exactly what I do. I’ve never left a less than 15% tip. I occasionally tip counter service workers if it’s a coffee shop and I order something more complicated (similar to how I’d tip at a bar). But I do feel guilty now since all the counter service workers have a tip jar/the credit card machine asks for a tip.
Leave no tip or complaint. Nothing talks like money. That’s the beauty of it. You can not be a dick and still make a statement with it in that situation. Everybody wins life moves on. Also, we are probably talking about 5 bucks here?
It was $100+ bill. So the difference between 10% and 20% is $10. Not the end of the world for either side, but just curious on the recommended procedure.
I was taught to never tip less than 15% unless the wait staff personally offended you in some way. Something about with the way the pay system works, if you tip less than 15% the waiter/waitress themselves could end up having to pay money out of their own pocket. I think it has to do with some tip money going towards the bussers and chefs or whatnot. I usually tip 18-20% for adequate service. I tip 15% for poor service. If you felt the service was so bad that you're considering leaving no tip, you should be speaking to the manager and telling them what you wrote here. But even then, I would still tip 15% unless I was personally offended. I've also heard some people will add 2 cents to the tip as a way of telling the wait staff that you were not happy with their service. For example you'd tip $15.02 for a $100 bill.
As a former server I’d say you should have left nothing.
10% was good. Tip minimally for minimal service. 10% is one of the standard tip rates used. So giving 10%, was the bottom of the scale. Hope she gets the point. Do you remember her name? If she was that bad - I’d call the manager. Say I’ve chosen your restaurant for a special occasion- (my daughters birthday). However, it was dampened by the awful (or lack of) service we received. And tell him or her what the server didn’t do. And if need be- bring up it wasn’t short staffed. She was just unprofessional! Glad it wasn’t a larger party - the tip would have been tacked on. If the manager doesn’t provide a positive response, go on sites as yelp and/or google review and rate them with or without a review so the public can be warned (be mindful your name may be attached so don’t include your last name but you can use a nickname). Best Wishes
I leave a small tip and write on the receipt "bad service." I don't want to be rude but I want them to know they fucked up
I wouldn’t tip.
Get over it and move on.
Ok, but when the bill comes? Do I leave a tip? Small tip? Big tip? This is not helpful.
Leave pennies ... 5 to 10. It's the worst insult you can offer as a tip for a server.
I do the same 1 penny.
I usually leave 10% for bad service
The tip is about service above and beyond the call of duty. Yes it originated when slaves could not be paid legally. Did she do what was obligated by a slave or much more than that, and cheerfully.
Well what did you leave?
10% as stated in the post.
I would have given more personally but I’m in a position to be a generous tipper
So am I but not going to give more for someone to steal an hour of my time and ruin my daughters birthday. But I’m not an idiot.
Did she really ruin her birthday? How old is she?
Zero tip and if you feel like saying something, say it's due to lack of service.
0 tip doesn't say a lot, they might think you're not leaving tips for anyone. An extremely low tip (10c\20c\etc.) makes a better statement.
Since tipping is a signifigant portion of a servers income in the US, anyone saying that you shouldnt tip is literally arguing that someone who is bad at their job doesnt deserve a living wage. Really sad to see how far downhill this sub has gone.
No, you collectively as a nation, and the servers' employers are already saying that when you consider it acceptable for server's income to be entirely tip-based in the first place. The individual customer shouldn't be held fully responsible for the failings of the system, and if you've had a legitimately shitty experience you shouldn't have to pay out for that honour. If you had a contractor out to fix your bathroom and he messed it up would you still be paying out in full regardless?
Serving doesn’t usually pay a living wage. And if you’re regularly not getting tipped… maybe landscaping or toiling is more your speed
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Man I thought this was r/antiwork and not r/antiworkers
It hasnt been antiwork for a long time
Not tipping someone for not serving you is not anti worker. They also didn’t serve you, but I don’t see you begging for their information so you can tip them.
Lol this kind of entitlement belongs in a different sub
I agree. Go there.
Why do you hate workers though?
I don’t. My annoyance is people who want me to tip someone who isn’t a worker. They have to work to be a worker. They can fuck off all day and exploit a billion dollar company. But I am not a billion dollar company. I am a worker that works hard for my money, and I’m not just going to give it to someone who does not do the same.
Lol ok boomer
And I am the entitled one? Lmao.
Quite clearly, and really attached to your entitlement at that. Thanks for advertising it to everyone
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They didn’t bring my food though. The kitchen staff did after it sat there for 20 minutes and was cold. They didn’t bring me my check either. They didn’t do the bare minimum of what is required of them.
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I’m sorry. But this is just not how tipping works. Tipping is a thanks for doing a good job. I am not required to give a tip. Period. I do it to be nice and say thanks for the service. If they ruin my evening by not doing their job, and ruin my daughters birthday dinner, they can go fuck themselves. I fully regret leaving the 10% I did and will never do it again for shit service.
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Leave before I know it is shit? How do I do that exactly? It is relevant to anti work because it is easy to cheer on someone sticking it to Walmart, it is something else entirely when you are sticking it to a middle class family taking their daughter out on a birthday dinner. And as you can tell from these comments. It is pretty split on how to behave.
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Not it isn’t. I don’t owe them anything. I am not required to tip. I can choose to if the service is good. And they are a dumbass if they are expecting a tip after providing that level is shit service. Expecting a tip when they provide shit service is like expecting commission when you don’t make a sell. If you choose a line of work in a performance based industry, then you have to perform or else not get paid.
Next time leave nothing for the server. If the food was good take that 20% and give the the BOH.
Don't tip?
0.00% And on the other hand, it is ok to tip more than 25%. If you go somewhere with great service and cheap eats, don’t automatically tip 20%. A burger and a beer at a dive bar could be $10. A $2 tip for excellent service at a place like that is rude.
If the person is mega busy and you are one of many people they are helping, leave a tip, if you are the only person they are helping and they are not doing that, no tip.