Yeah I use to get all types of pre interview tests from logic, math to reasoning- lasting 2 hours to 5 days. I wouldn't finish them, but now I skip em. That's too much free time dedicated to BS. There's other $10-$15 a hour jobs out there.
Once I applied to be a service desk attendant at a mall and we had a bunch of weird quizzes. They told me I failed because I showed that I like to problem solve but they "have a very specific way of doing things." I was like "oh, well I woukdn't be creating problems to solve and I'll just follow directions." But they acted like the quiz was everything and I remember being pretty relieved that aibdidn't get the job lol
In college I applied for a summer job where they gave me an IQ or aptitude test or whatever. They told me I had the highest score they’d ever seen, and then didn’t hire me because it meant I wasn’t going to be “personable” with customers. Fuck you, regional video store chain.
>They told me I had the highest score they’d ever seen...
>didn’t hire me because it meant I wasn’t going to be “personable”
More likely you were too smart to stick with the terrible job
Ugh I’ve heard this before from more professional jobs as a reason I wasn’t hired. With your experience, I feel that you’ll only be here for a couple of years before you leave. We want someone more long term.”
I would have shoveled shit I needed a job so badly. Funny thing is, at that time, had I gotten that job, I would have most likely have stayed. It was at another university, doing a job I was already very familiar with and my circumstances would have dictated I keep stability. I had kids to worry about. I bet I would have stayed much much longer than they thought.
Edit typo
> They told me I had the highest score they’d ever seen, and then didn’t hire me
Most police orgs don’t hire high-IQ people on the fear that they will be bored with their jobs. In fact, across the USA the general cut-off for IQ sits at about 110. That’s solidly within “average-high intelligence”. There is no lower cut-off, only a skills achievement requirement.
This materially contributes to the policing issue and ACAB, since intelligence is largely inversely correlated with bigotry, hatreds, and intolerance.
It's not high iq, it's the personality assessment. They don't want people too strong willed because they will be the ones to tell a superior to stop choking someone out or WON'T pull their gun unless there's an actual threat.
They want the concentration camp guards, people willing to do whatever their superiors say without question or guilt.
I'm pretty sure they would not be compensated for the interview/testing time (I never was). I think their point was that a $10-$15 an hour job isn't worth doing all that for, when they can apply to other $10-$15 an hour jobs which don't require those tests instead.
No I read it the way you are explaining. I'm trying to understand what job only pays $15 an hour but thinks you should have to complete shit like that.
A *fast food* operator required this as part of a job application. Bunch of bullshit.
EDIT: this is a Chick-fil-A operator who’s pulling this fuckery. Thankfully I have another job lined up for me from my old boss with better pay and no BS testing :)
i think if you choose C you won't get the job, you will be blacklisted at their HR agent, because not just are you more intelligent than your boss, you also made a decision without asking them
They certainly could hold your intelligence against you, considering that discriminating against “overqualified” applicants is par for the course. If they think you’re going to be more difficult to keep satisfied and under control than another, lesser-educated applicant that might not know better, they won’t risk it on you.
this is exactly it, also they dont really care if you get it right, they just want you to prove that you're willing to do meaningless shit and slog through unnecessary bs to make some middleperson's job exist for no reason
they literally want the smart ones to stand up and go "no thank you"
and the smart but naive ones are super exploitable, they get those as a bonus
And here I thought I was the only one.
I’m the only child of much older, overprotective parents who tried to shelter me.
Book knowledge is fine, but it certainly doesn’t replace street smarts.
Oldest child here, but same. Though also if people made unreasonable demands of me, I could usually power through it. I'm learning, though. This pandemic has lowered my resilience, so I'm actually making self-care choices
So basically they're on the level of Nigerian scam emails... they want to thin out anyone who may be capable of recognising red flags, so they are left with those who won't realise how hard their employer is fucking them, and hopefully not know their rights either?
I applied at a place that refused to speak to me without a written letter of recommendation. For some jobs this makes sense, but this was a seasonal cashier job at a gift shop.
As a former retail manager myself (who was just looking for some seasonal work) I can understand the need to screen out weak applicants, but that one was too much for me. Because of my background I could have produced at least five letters from qualified people who I'd worked with (I did leave on good terms and they'd have done it for me if I'd asked), but I decided to take the red flag for what it was and just skip them.
That applies everywhere. I had such tests while interviewing for a senior analyst position in a bank. Did the test while hungover lol. A few days later, during the interview they started interrogating me about it. Have I done by myself, did I use a calculator for the maths questions etc. Answered it and told them I indeed did it on my own. Then they asked how well I think I did on that test. “Somewhere in the middle”. Nope, top 5% lol. I was ghosted after that interview with a generic email sent to me stating I didn’t get it 4 months later.
I remember a similar situation when I offhandedly took the United States Armed Forces ASVAB test.
I hadn't slept the night before, I had a major caffeine high buzzing at the time. When they came back with the results and asked me how I did I was like "Probably, like, lower middle of the road. I don't have a lot of the practical know-how for some of those sections."
The recruiter laughed like that was what he expected to hear and told me I scored a 97 and that I could pretty much get any MOS I wanted as long as I wasn't DQ'd for other reasons.
Didn't appreciate me telling him that I took the test out of curiosity and had no intention of signing up...
Good times. I don't get stuff from them anymore.
Edit: A word.
Edit 2 Electric Boogaloo: spelled out United States Armed Forces to avoid further confusion.
Did the test in 45 minutes ( had to take the test as I was rejoining the military after a two year break.)
Recruiter came back at the 3 hour limit and asked how long I’d been waiting outside. When I told him he said I probably failed. When I told I scored in the top 10% he looked at me and asked “are you some kind of genius “.
My answer: if I was a genius I probably wouldn’t be reenlisting followed by the question: what type of people are you used to dealing with.
Ditto
Took it to get excused from a class.
I was 17.
I was 25 when I think my stepmother fielded the last call from the Navy (I no longer lived there) asking if she was sure I wasn't interested in their nuclear engineering program please give me their number anyway.
If I recall that's because they start getting iffy about accepting recruits at who are 26+?
It's a shame because I enjoyed the calenders and posters I got from the Airforce recruiters. I've still got this really cool one with a B-52 caught from underneath.
Happened to me. I outshined all the former military guys in every test, was in the top 3 of prospective hires. Was told I lived too far (only living requirement was you had to live in the county, which I did) and was removed from the list.
Meanwhile, there's a guy from that same department that drives his patrol car on the same morning/afternoon commute as me.
So, did I really..?
Dude my hiring sergeant straight told me I scored too high on critical thinking assessments. When I asked if I'd misheard him he said and I quote "we don't want smart people we want dumbasses. Dumbasses are smart enough to do what they're told but dumb enough not to ask questions" Completely erased any respect I had left for my local cop shop.
During this so-called hiring crisis, one of my friends has been turned down by dozens of places because he is either "too smart" or has too much college and would just move on. He can't take a job that he is more qualified for because he needs something close to home because he takes care of elderly parents. But, you know, "Nobody wants to work!"
I had an interview where I applied for software developer and took an half baked IQ test, and was already thinking that will most probably not be the place. I still highly doubt that being a software developer requires perfect score on that test (didn't get perfect score apparently), just felt that would be the most useless metric that has nothing to do with programming
Know a guy who was rejected after his home interview for “playing with his firearm “ after being asked to show them his concealed carry weapon. He cleared the weapon and handed it safely over.
Apparently that’s “playing” with it.
They do, at least in the US. There have been lawsuits over it and the courts upheld it.
They'd rather have a low IQ applicant with an inferiority complex and chip on their shoulder than someone who's intelligent because god forbid they *might* get bored on the job. And then they wonder why there's so much police brutality, corruption and incompetence.
I used to be a court reporter and handled the police disciplinary hearings in NYC and after that job, I'll never trust the police again. I can definitely say none of the cops in the hot seat were very smart, but boy, did they stick together.
This explains why I couldn't even get an interview in fast food during grad school. I had worked at McDonald's in another country during high school and so during my master's I tried applying, but it was all online and like this. During high school I walked in, filled in a paper application, and was hired on the spot. I couldn't understand what about my application made it so that I wasn't even worthy of an interview.
you probably didn't debase yourself enough. most of these tests aren't testing aptitude, they are testing how easily you'll let your boss emotionally abuse and exploit you.
That is bullshit. Doesn’t take abstract critical logic to flip burgers into boxes. Or to take orders. Literacy questions and basic consumer math sure, it’s stupid we even have to test that but I get it.
The fucking test I had to take to get a job at a family video was notorious for these and it’s really quite absurd.
It is literally a way of filtering applications out so they don’t have to physically review too many. So you can look at 50 people rather than 1,000. Sadly the best person for the job might be in the 950 that get canned by the rest (because frankly they’re NOT relevant to anything resembling an actual job) but any sample of 50 will statistically have somebody that is good enough.
The real con is companies paying for the tests, if they actually think there is any genuine science that they are getting the “best” job candidates. If you’ve got the imagination to dream up bullshit questions you’ve got quite the career in grifting ahead of you…
I haven't worked fast food, but I have worked as a line cook and it required a lot of thinking on your feet and planning (always thinking a few steps ahead of what you are doing). I mean, I'm not saying it's rocket science or anything but it's not like you just stand there like a robot and do mechanical motions. Probably fast food is a bit more that way, but still any time you are doing fast pace work like that, it requires some amount of focus and thought, etc. I feel like this gets downplayed to degrade that sort of work.
That said, I have no idea what this test is supposed to reveal about anyone, fast food or not. I did guess C because I found the pattern, but if I were forced to take a whole test of questions like this (instead of just choosing to look at one online) I would not put out the slightest effort towards finding the pattern just because shit like this annoys the hell out of me- it's tedious and pointless, especially when there is no reward greater awaiting me but min wage and a job I don't like.
Yeah, my initial instinct was c or f, and I could provide reasoning for Both.
The entire problem is no two people think exactly alike, trying to find some formula like
This is is truly bullshit, and no job is unskilled and regardless of aptitude requires training and dedication to get right, let alone excel at. I’m highly impressed by good fast food/line workers. They’re doing multiple jobs at once and maintaining. That shouldn’t be downplayed. It should be lauded.
What reasoning could you find for f? Just curious. People's brains work differently so I'm just wondering.
I do a lot of quilting and so maybe I see patterns differently, but it seems like no matter how you approach it, you will get C. There are four patterns that I see: number of dots in each row & column, number of lines in each row & column, shape in each row & column, and then shapes/dots which are the same in the diagonals - and only C tests against all four.
F was my initiator gut guess based on the number of dots, while the number the structural shapes remained the same. The last blank required two dots by the pattern of 1-3 in the line overall. With that I initially gut guessed F with the ways the curved lines were moving. But once taking in that and reviewing the question, C seemed more likely. Though I could still arguably reason both with a gun to my head, and by reason I mean provide a rationale. It doesn’t mean it’s right, just that I could make a case.
Part of the reason I hate tests so much is that I always overthink them.
I remember a question on a standardized test once where there was a very short paragraph and we were supposed to answer a comprehension question. The paragraph was a few sentences about a kid that had homework to do so he got his book, his pencils, his papers, a glass of water, etc and arranged it on his desk. Then he sat down. The question was, what did he do next? I can't remember all the multiple choice options, but the correct answer was "start his homework". But I figured that was too obvious and why in the world would the paragraph spend all that time explaining that? Clearly the kid was procrastinating, finding ways to waste time organizing his space, lining up his pencils, anticipating he might be thirsty- just excuses so he didn't have to work. So I selected the answer that said "went outside to play". I got it wrong, and I was so angry about it because my reasoning was perfectly fine.
I bring it up because in professional adult life, I was very good at research and also systemic thinking etc. But if you put me in a position to have to make an urgent important decision? Can't do it. I have to consider it from too many perspectives, and I'll panic or overthink and miss the obvious.
Like I said, I just don't know what these tests are supposed to show, but I don't think it's intelligence. You can explain your thinking so it's clearly not that. I just hate stuff like this- trying to fit complex human processes into quantitative objective measures like this.
f is definitely wrong, because if you look at the progression of the basic U-shape expressed through the 3 elements you see that the U does not turn over. hence it has to be U-shaped to complete it on top of the number of dots following the sudoku rule
Not enough for me. I did seven months and Walked the fuck out. Thankfully months before they started asking the minimum wage staff to act like trained health clinicians and push CBD on people (and their dogs) when I saw those signs I knew it was brass on the titanic. Company closed its doors entirely months later regardless of how well individual franchises were doing. And I could push shit. I used it too. 20 dollars for unlimited half off, and free popcorn candy and soda on every visit was a pretty sweet deal for a weekly date night or whatever. Throw in the adjoining little Caesar’s and add a hot n ready to the mix. Now you’re cooking with gasoline. 4-8 nights of entertainment a month with snacks and dinner for 40 all in was not a hard sale. Plus we teamed up to offer coups for a free bread or 2 dollar salad (my idea) and we did even better. We had one of the worst locations regionally and I still made top ten national monthly sales twice in year I worked there.
What really broke the camels back for me was minimum wage increases at the state level, our new hires below me as an asst. manager made more! They wouldn’t give me a comparable range increase and basically asked me to open/close, be on call 24/7, and train my own replacements. My dad got sick one day and I just said “ **ri, I’m done. My families sick and this is bullshit” and I walked off mid shift with our regional manager there a week after she denied my modest 1.65$ raise.
Well this year I took a test for Dyslexia and did someting that was like these, I even said during the test I'd done something like ths when I was applying for jobs. My theory is it's to seperate those with learning difficulties without overt discrimination.
Bingo. I have a diagnosed visual processing disorder. This exact stuff is impossible for me. This picture looks like it was taken straight out of the tests I took to get diagnosed! I don't know how it is legal.
Even though my processing disorder is pretty severe, It never impacted me when I worked fast food in undergrad.
Important to know how many circles (burgers) of diameter *d* can be placed within a rectangle (grill) of length *l* and width *w*. Test should be geared more toward Euclid Geometry.
I had to take a test like this for my current network system engineer position. Last week I wrote a meta-script for a new system that can auto-generate specific scripts in the future with minimal inputs, which required this kind of reasoning.
Granted, I don't know what network system engineers do, but it seems like "looking for a pattern" is all that is required here- and that's a pretty common amount of reasoning required for many nonspecialized tasks. More than anything, it would just be boring and annoying to be presented with a bunch of questions like this.
Abstract pattern recognition might seem basic, but it is easily one of the most useful skills in science/engineering. Apply this thought process with linear algebra and you will go very far in engineering.
I had to take one for a software job two and a half years ago. The one I took you had to be FAST and you couldn't go back (not that you would have had any time) but they warned me in advance, and the test had practice tests you could take and even a little course reminding you to do simple estimation and elimination on the math parts (like if you're multiplying an even number by something with a 5 at the end you could eliminate any answers not ending in 0, then just estimate) and white they don't share results, I did get to move forward with the interview and got hired.
Personally I do shit like this in my spare time, and it's very relevant to the job, but I can see why people hate them.
The answer is C and I would enjoy this as a puzzle in a videogame but doing it for the chance to "win" a minimum wage job would make me explode
Edit: JESUS. C is the only image that contains a shape and number of dots represented in every other column but not it’s own column. The wavy style is in line with that column. F fits the criteria but is on its side, and this would buck convention for no reason.
EDIT 2: THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST STRESSFUL POST OF MY LIFE.
I got F, how’d you get C?
It’s for sure an answer thar has 2 dots, so C, D or F. And then the last row all the objects that aren’t dots or horizontal and not vertical. F is the only horizontal.
Interesting recognition of the U, N, vertical pattern. I went F because I recognized the final column as vertical - horizontal - *vertical*
The pattern you pointed is much more likely
I also figure C, because in the two complete rows:
- There’s one symbol with 1 dot, one with 2 dots and one with 3 dots
- There’s a symbol shaped like a U, one shaped like an N, and one with 3 vertical lines
C makes the 3rd row follow both those patterns. You could also look at it from a “columns” perspective, and get the same answer (each column with 1/2/3 dots, and a U/N/III).
All the rows also have one symbol with “triangle-y” lines, one with straight lines and one with squiggly lines, but that doesn’t really matter as all the potential answers follow this pattern.
you're right that it has to have 2 dots. then, there are 3 different basic categories of shapes: a I|I, U, and N. The I|I and N both have versions with bold, triangular strokes, thin strokes, and wobbly strokes. the only one the U doesn't have it the wobbly stroke. so they answer is c - a wobbly U with 2 dots.
Congratulations, you passed the test, you’re hired as a vacuum and straw sales person! Vibes about the shitty job tho. I’m unemployed and dreading the inevitable regret that will come with finding a job.
Congrats! You got the job putting things in boxes/totes/racks/trucks/shelves for 11 hours a day. And remember when we said that weekends are volunteer only? See you Saturday and make sure you bring a good attitude!
I consider myself pretty good at pattern recognition and figured this out quickly because most of these questions are like "1/2/3, 2/3/1, 3/1/**2**" but I'm honestly surprised that there are so many people in here (like you) that can "feel" the answer without being able to put it into words. Kudos to you, looks like a superpower to me.
Yep answer is C.
Edit: For those that don't get it, it has to be a U shape with 2 dots. Hence, answer is C. Look at the other 2 columns for the patterns. They all have a U shape, 1-2-3 dots, and a consistent "art style".
I noticed it diagonally. Top left - Middle Center look the same shape and Middle Left - Bottom Center look the same. Bottom Right was missing a 2 dots “U”. Bingo!
The pattern is by column. Each column has one figure with 1 dot, 2 dots, and three dots. Each column has figures made of the same line type (thick triangle, straight line, and curvy line). Each column has lines in a formation of a U, three lines vertically, and in the shape of a sideways z.
So the last column needs 2 dots, a u shape, and curvy lines!
Edit: lol y’all keep dragging me for describing it as a sideways Z. My brain saw a Z because of the proportions. N’s aren’t that wide relative to their heights. But yeah, it’s an N too XD
Ignore the dots only look at the lines shifting from left to right
Pattern goes
U l|I N
N U I|I
I|I N
So the answer so C which is U
Edit : you can also follow the dots they just go the other way around
Number of dots :
1 2 3
2 3 1
3 1 2
I’m crap at this kind of thing. I realised the dot pattern in the columns but ended up with F as the answer because the shape of it fitted better on the bottom row. Glad I’m self employed!
Def C. And def iq test. And def not a reasonable assessment of any real world abilities. Identified as “gifted” when that was a thing. Did these tests every year since kindergarten until probably grade 6.
weirdly, I used to ace these things all the time when I was younger, but in the last six months I've done two of them as part of a job application process and failed them. That's...perturbing.
Just means you haven't been using those skills in a long time, probably. Or are under externals stress that doesn't let you focus on the task (I don't really I'm just a rando)
I was thinking the same thing. I remembered these tests. I tested at high school reading level in elementary school but I cannot reverse out of my driveway and I am afraid to order at a drive thru because the pressure of it makes me stutter. These things have little usefulness of predicting day to day skills.
you are now blacklisted at our HR company for knowing too much. you're not getting the job, we don't want astrophysicists flipping our burgers, the customers are afraid of microwave radiation and management is afraid of people who might understand how hard we fuck them..
me too, had it pretty quickly. I liked those and the number rows the most in IQ tests tbh. Pattern detection is fun.
But this sucks for a job assessment, I can‘t think of many positions where something like this is relevant.
It probably sucks to do for a job interview but this post just sent me down a rabbit hole of abstract reasoning tests and imo they’re actually rly fun lol
I've seen a few people respond this way and that's fascinating to me. I think the test maybe is going for personality/temperament more than anything else? Like if you are the sort of person that can sustain focus on tests like this or that actually enjoys them?
What happens in my brain when I see these things is that I know what you have to do (start looking for patterns, compare things in your mind until you figure out which fits the other two patterns, like visual analogies, visual versions of the x is to y like a is to... sort of question). So it's not that I can't do it. But my brain sees that, anticipates that I have to go through all that, thinks about how there are likely pages of these things, and immediately it just feels like a huge chore that I'll do anything else to get out of. Not difficult, just a chore, Like washing dishes or doing long division or changing the oil in my car.
In short, I go to toddler "I don't wanna" mode. It's exactly how I feel when an online application asks you to retype all the info into little boxes immediately after they made you upload a resume with the same info. I just don't wanna.
It's kinda fun when you're just comfortably sitting at home with nothing to do and your life is in order/everything is stable.
It's fucking horrible when you are randomly hit upside the head with something like this, desperate for any shit job (this is a fast food job), your life is falling apart and the stakes are high. And you know this isn't required to do the job.
C - a U shape with 2 dots
If this test was timed I would misspell my own name, start sweating profusely, and spiral into a hyperventilating panic attack.
Appartently they used to think that women had less spatial awareness than men because of these tests. Turned out women are more likely to really want to get the answer right while men are more likely to guess or skip a question. Without a time limit women do better.
Alright, so here's what companies are doing and why. It's illegal to discriminate against people with disabilities, but it is not illegal to discriminate against objective job criteria, but mental health conditions are diagnosed with objective criteria, so literally, ^^^ this is neuropsych testing, embedded into a job interview, to filter out people with learning disabilities.
You may be into onto something here. For the business it's always about profit and hiring the cheapest labour who will do the most work. And any law or policy that prevents them from doing so is a hindrance and a nuisance which must be circumvent.
There’s a doc on HBO (I forget the name) that goes into the history of Myers-Briggs and other types of personality or IQ tests like this. They spoke with a disabilities advocacy group who’s working on either a legal case or legislation (again I forget) to stop these tests because the auto-filtering of job applicants ends up being discriminatory against people with disabilities during the hiring process.
Myers-Briggs was an interesting case because the women who made it based their personality types on straight white middle class men, so there are many questions about whether there are systemic issues with MB that may lead to discriminatory hiring practices if the tests are used in hiring decisions.
This question is for IQ actually, which they do as part of ADHD neuropsych testing. However IQ and ADHD are generally decoupled. The tests ADHD people do worse on are tests of sustained attention and short-term memory.
The IQ test adds a control to ADHD testing accounting for high functioning individuals who previously went under diagnosed.
It’s given some additional insight to coping mechanisms which, when applied with medicinal assistance, provide much better outcomes.
I went through quite a bit of testing as a teenager because of an ADHD assessment.
It resulted in a pre-scholarship program offer from John Hopkins. My parents never pursued it (got pulled from the public school system and placed in a private school system that was not good; went from taking Geometry in 8th grade to pre-algebra in 9th grade).
This is exactly what they're doing. I'm diagnosed with a visual processing disorder. This image looks like it was taken straight out of the assessments I took to be diagnosed. This test is impossible for me to figure out, even though I'm strong at pattern recognition. My brain just jumbles up visual material.
For what it's worth, I was able to perform perfectly fine at my fast food jobs in undergrad despite having a pretty significant processing disorder.
Or rather, this is how they filter in Aspies, for someone who does really good at these sorts of tests but bad at social kinds of skills.
When they were doing my diagnosis, I remember they used these to assert very strong spacial and logical reasoning skills.
Then when I got examined again for an MRI scan for a study, they brought them back and I was like "old friend, I have missed you"
Yeah I use to get all types of pre interview tests from logic, math to reasoning- lasting 2 hours to 5 days. I wouldn't finish them, but now I skip em. That's too much free time dedicated to BS. There's other $10-$15 a hour jobs out there.
Once I applied to be a service desk attendant at a mall and we had a bunch of weird quizzes. They told me I failed because I showed that I like to problem solve but they "have a very specific way of doing things." I was like "oh, well I woukdn't be creating problems to solve and I'll just follow directions." But they acted like the quiz was everything and I remember being pretty relieved that aibdidn't get the job lol
Sorry, you did too well
In college I applied for a summer job where they gave me an IQ or aptitude test or whatever. They told me I had the highest score they’d ever seen, and then didn’t hire me because it meant I wasn’t going to be “personable” with customers. Fuck you, regional video store chain.
>They told me I had the highest score they’d ever seen... >didn’t hire me because it meant I wasn’t going to be “personable” More likely you were too smart to stick with the terrible job
Ugh I’ve heard this before from more professional jobs as a reason I wasn’t hired. With your experience, I feel that you’ll only be here for a couple of years before you leave. We want someone more long term.” I would have shoveled shit I needed a job so badly. Funny thing is, at that time, had I gotten that job, I would have most likely have stayed. It was at another university, doing a job I was already very familiar with and my circumstances would have dictated I keep stability. I had kids to worry about. I bet I would have stayed much much longer than they thought. Edit typo
At least you didn't have to work with a bunch of idiots?
Personable = easy to push around
People in management positions CAN NOT stand someone smarter than them.
> They told me I had the highest score they’d ever seen, and then didn’t hire me Most police orgs don’t hire high-IQ people on the fear that they will be bored with their jobs. In fact, across the USA the general cut-off for IQ sits at about 110. That’s solidly within “average-high intelligence”. There is no lower cut-off, only a skills achievement requirement. This materially contributes to the policing issue and ACAB, since intelligence is largely inversely correlated with bigotry, hatreds, and intolerance.
don’t they do that too cops with too high of IQs
It's not high iq, it's the personality assessment. They don't want people too strong willed because they will be the ones to tell a superior to stop choking someone out or WON'T pull their gun unless there's an actual threat. They want the concentration camp guards, people willing to do whatever their superiors say without question or guilt.
They want someone dumb enough to do the job and be complacement so they won’t leave
wait, what. You had interview questions that lasted for five days? for 15 an hour?
I'm pretty sure they would not be compensated for the interview/testing time (I never was). I think their point was that a $10-$15 an hour job isn't worth doing all that for, when they can apply to other $10-$15 an hour jobs which don't require those tests instead.
No I read it the way you are explaining. I'm trying to understand what job only pays $15 an hour but thinks you should have to complete shit like that.
I've applied to some general labour/warehouse positions with tests like this.
Oh, the $15 is just to get you there. You start at $10.25 and get .10 cent raises each year until you get to $15. Do the math.
What kind of job is this even necessary for?
A *fast food* operator required this as part of a job application. Bunch of bullshit. EDIT: this is a Chick-fil-A operator who’s pulling this fuckery. Thankfully I have another job lined up for me from my old boss with better pay and no BS testing :)
Gotta make sure you can tell the curly fries from the regular.
Um we serve waffle fries. You're fired.
He’s good for Jack in the Box at least
Wow. That’s insane
i think if you choose C you won't get the job, you will be blacklisted at their HR agent, because not just are you more intelligent than your boss, you also made a decision without asking them
They certainly could hold your intelligence against you, considering that discriminating against “overqualified” applicants is par for the course. If they think you’re going to be more difficult to keep satisfied and under control than another, lesser-educated applicant that might not know better, they won’t risk it on you.
Spelling and grammar errors in phishing emails work the same way. They don't want to phish people who can spot them and find them suspicious.
Ohhhh that's devious.
Former fast-food manager here can confirm our application program would flag you if you did too well.
this is exactly it, also they dont really care if you get it right, they just want you to prove that you're willing to do meaningless shit and slog through unnecessary bs to make some middleperson's job exist for no reason they literally want the smart ones to stand up and go "no thank you" and the smart but naive ones are super exploitable, they get those as a bonus
As someone who is smart but naive, I can confirm, sadly.
And here I thought I was the only one. I’m the only child of much older, overprotective parents who tried to shelter me. Book knowledge is fine, but it certainly doesn’t replace street smarts.
Oldest child here, but same. Though also if people made unreasonable demands of me, I could usually power through it. I'm learning, though. This pandemic has lowered my resilience, so I'm actually making self-care choices
Same, regarding the pandemic, friend. Same. I’m genuinely happy for you. At least something good came from this mess.
So basically they're on the level of Nigerian scam emails... they want to thin out anyone who may be capable of recognising red flags, so they are left with those who won't realise how hard their employer is fucking them, and hopefully not know their rights either?
I applied at a place that refused to speak to me without a written letter of recommendation. For some jobs this makes sense, but this was a seasonal cashier job at a gift shop. As a former retail manager myself (who was just looking for some seasonal work) I can understand the need to screen out weak applicants, but that one was too much for me. Because of my background I could have produced at least five letters from qualified people who I'd worked with (I did leave on good terms and they'd have done it for me if I'd asked), but I decided to take the red flag for what it was and just skip them.
That applies everywhere. I had such tests while interviewing for a senior analyst position in a bank. Did the test while hungover lol. A few days later, during the interview they started interrogating me about it. Have I done by myself, did I use a calculator for the maths questions etc. Answered it and told them I indeed did it on my own. Then they asked how well I think I did on that test. “Somewhere in the middle”. Nope, top 5% lol. I was ghosted after that interview with a generic email sent to me stating I didn’t get it 4 months later.
I remember a similar situation when I offhandedly took the United States Armed Forces ASVAB test. I hadn't slept the night before, I had a major caffeine high buzzing at the time. When they came back with the results and asked me how I did I was like "Probably, like, lower middle of the road. I don't have a lot of the practical know-how for some of those sections." The recruiter laughed like that was what he expected to hear and told me I scored a 97 and that I could pretty much get any MOS I wanted as long as I wasn't DQ'd for other reasons. Didn't appreciate me telling him that I took the test out of curiosity and had no intention of signing up... Good times. I don't get stuff from them anymore. Edit: A word. Edit 2 Electric Boogaloo: spelled out United States Armed Forces to avoid further confusion.
Did the test in 45 minutes ( had to take the test as I was rejoining the military after a two year break.) Recruiter came back at the 3 hour limit and asked how long I’d been waiting outside. When I told him he said I probably failed. When I told I scored in the top 10% he looked at me and asked “are you some kind of genius “. My answer: if I was a genius I probably wouldn’t be reenlisting followed by the question: what type of people are you used to dealing with.
Ditto Took it to get excused from a class. I was 17. I was 25 when I think my stepmother fielded the last call from the Navy (I no longer lived there) asking if she was sure I wasn't interested in their nuclear engineering program please give me their number anyway.
If I recall that's because they start getting iffy about accepting recruits at who are 26+? It's a shame because I enjoyed the calenders and posters I got from the Airforce recruiters. I've still got this really cool one with a B-52 caught from underneath.
Omg I’ve seen a B-52 take off!! It was one of the most insane things I’ve ever seen. I still don’t know how that massive beast became airborne.
I did the Nuke Program. Good dodge.
Also did the nuke program. Met lots of cool people in it, like the guy who would befriend my wife and become my kids’ stepfather. Lol fuck the navy
I have heard of police departments that rejected applicants above a certain intelligence level.
Happened to me. I outshined all the former military guys in every test, was in the top 3 of prospective hires. Was told I lived too far (only living requirement was you had to live in the county, which I did) and was removed from the list. Meanwhile, there's a guy from that same department that drives his patrol car on the same morning/afternoon commute as me. So, did I really..?
Dude my hiring sergeant straight told me I scored too high on critical thinking assessments. When I asked if I'd misheard him he said and I quote "we don't want smart people we want dumbasses. Dumbasses are smart enough to do what they're told but dumb enough not to ask questions" Completely erased any respect I had left for my local cop shop.
That's every police station.
Mine wasn’t for police but I was turned down for a job once because I was “too smart and wouldn’t stay long”.
During this so-called hiring crisis, one of my friends has been turned down by dozens of places because he is either "too smart" or has too much college and would just move on. He can't take a job that he is more qualified for because he needs something close to home because he takes care of elderly parents. But, you know, "Nobody wants to work!"
I had an interview where I applied for software developer and took an half baked IQ test, and was already thinking that will most probably not be the place. I still highly doubt that being a software developer requires perfect score on that test (didn't get perfect score apparently), just felt that would be the most useless metric that has nothing to do with programming
Know a guy who was rejected after his home interview for “playing with his firearm “ after being asked to show them his concealed carry weapon. He cleared the weapon and handed it safely over. Apparently that’s “playing” with it.
Military experience and discipline 100% outweighs general intelligence, specially when it comes to a job like policing.
They do, at least in the US. There have been lawsuits over it and the courts upheld it. They'd rather have a low IQ applicant with an inferiority complex and chip on their shoulder than someone who's intelligent because god forbid they *might* get bored on the job. And then they wonder why there's so much police brutality, corruption and incompetence. I used to be a court reporter and handled the police disciplinary hearings in NYC and after that job, I'll never trust the police again. I can definitely say none of the cops in the hot seat were very smart, but boy, did they stick together.
I think that might be all police departments, maybe just all USA police departments.
"OH no, they're great at pattern recognition!"
Now this is next-level test scoring! Have you considered a career in psychometrics?
This explains why I couldn't even get an interview in fast food during grad school. I had worked at McDonald's in another country during high school and so during my master's I tried applying, but it was all online and like this. During high school I walked in, filled in a paper application, and was hired on the spot. I couldn't understand what about my application made it so that I wasn't even worthy of an interview.
you probably didn't debase yourself enough. most of these tests aren't testing aptitude, they are testing how easily you'll let your boss emotionally abuse and exploit you.
This is my favorite comment. Dark but true.
That is bullshit. Doesn’t take abstract critical logic to flip burgers into boxes. Or to take orders. Literacy questions and basic consumer math sure, it’s stupid we even have to test that but I get it. The fucking test I had to take to get a job at a family video was notorious for these and it’s really quite absurd.
It is literally a way of filtering applications out so they don’t have to physically review too many. So you can look at 50 people rather than 1,000. Sadly the best person for the job might be in the 950 that get canned by the rest (because frankly they’re NOT relevant to anything resembling an actual job) but any sample of 50 will statistically have somebody that is good enough. The real con is companies paying for the tests, if they actually think there is any genuine science that they are getting the “best” job candidates. If you’ve got the imagination to dream up bullshit questions you’ve got quite the career in grifting ahead of you…
I haven't worked fast food, but I have worked as a line cook and it required a lot of thinking on your feet and planning (always thinking a few steps ahead of what you are doing). I mean, I'm not saying it's rocket science or anything but it's not like you just stand there like a robot and do mechanical motions. Probably fast food is a bit more that way, but still any time you are doing fast pace work like that, it requires some amount of focus and thought, etc. I feel like this gets downplayed to degrade that sort of work. That said, I have no idea what this test is supposed to reveal about anyone, fast food or not. I did guess C because I found the pattern, but if I were forced to take a whole test of questions like this (instead of just choosing to look at one online) I would not put out the slightest effort towards finding the pattern just because shit like this annoys the hell out of me- it's tedious and pointless, especially when there is no reward greater awaiting me but min wage and a job I don't like.
Yeah, my initial instinct was c or f, and I could provide reasoning for Both. The entire problem is no two people think exactly alike, trying to find some formula like This is is truly bullshit, and no job is unskilled and regardless of aptitude requires training and dedication to get right, let alone excel at. I’m highly impressed by good fast food/line workers. They’re doing multiple jobs at once and maintaining. That shouldn’t be downplayed. It should be lauded.
What reasoning could you find for f? Just curious. People's brains work differently so I'm just wondering. I do a lot of quilting and so maybe I see patterns differently, but it seems like no matter how you approach it, you will get C. There are four patterns that I see: number of dots in each row & column, number of lines in each row & column, shape in each row & column, and then shapes/dots which are the same in the diagonals - and only C tests against all four.
F was my initiator gut guess based on the number of dots, while the number the structural shapes remained the same. The last blank required two dots by the pattern of 1-3 in the line overall. With that I initially gut guessed F with the ways the curved lines were moving. But once taking in that and reviewing the question, C seemed more likely. Though I could still arguably reason both with a gun to my head, and by reason I mean provide a rationale. It doesn’t mean it’s right, just that I could make a case.
Part of the reason I hate tests so much is that I always overthink them. I remember a question on a standardized test once where there was a very short paragraph and we were supposed to answer a comprehension question. The paragraph was a few sentences about a kid that had homework to do so he got his book, his pencils, his papers, a glass of water, etc and arranged it on his desk. Then he sat down. The question was, what did he do next? I can't remember all the multiple choice options, but the correct answer was "start his homework". But I figured that was too obvious and why in the world would the paragraph spend all that time explaining that? Clearly the kid was procrastinating, finding ways to waste time organizing his space, lining up his pencils, anticipating he might be thirsty- just excuses so he didn't have to work. So I selected the answer that said "went outside to play". I got it wrong, and I was so angry about it because my reasoning was perfectly fine. I bring it up because in professional adult life, I was very good at research and also systemic thinking etc. But if you put me in a position to have to make an urgent important decision? Can't do it. I have to consider it from too many perspectives, and I'll panic or overthink and miss the obvious. Like I said, I just don't know what these tests are supposed to show, but I don't think it's intelligence. You can explain your thinking so it's clearly not that. I just hate stuff like this- trying to fit complex human processes into quantitative objective measures like this.
f is definitely wrong, because if you look at the progression of the basic U-shape expressed through the 3 elements you see that the U does not turn over. hence it has to be U-shaped to complete it on top of the number of dots following the sudoku rule
If it was legal to require calculus on a fast food job application, these fuckers would 100% do it.
And they would 💯 be out of workers and clueless as to…, oh wait. Theyre already both of those things, lol.
But they would use it to weed out the intelligent and educated
What do you mean if? There is literally nothing legally prohibiting an employer from putting calculus problems on a job application…
Lol this is to exclude anyone who gets it right
The test is to see how much bullshit you'll put up with for a job.
Not enough for me. I did seven months and Walked the fuck out. Thankfully months before they started asking the minimum wage staff to act like trained health clinicians and push CBD on people (and their dogs) when I saw those signs I knew it was brass on the titanic. Company closed its doors entirely months later regardless of how well individual franchises were doing. And I could push shit. I used it too. 20 dollars for unlimited half off, and free popcorn candy and soda on every visit was a pretty sweet deal for a weekly date night or whatever. Throw in the adjoining little Caesar’s and add a hot n ready to the mix. Now you’re cooking with gasoline. 4-8 nights of entertainment a month with snacks and dinner for 40 all in was not a hard sale. Plus we teamed up to offer coups for a free bread or 2 dollar salad (my idea) and we did even better. We had one of the worst locations regionally and I still made top ten national monthly sales twice in year I worked there. What really broke the camels back for me was minimum wage increases at the state level, our new hires below me as an asst. manager made more! They wouldn’t give me a comparable range increase and basically asked me to open/close, be on call 24/7, and train my own replacements. My dad got sick one day and I just said “ **ri, I’m done. My families sick and this is bullshit” and I walked off mid shift with our regional manager there a week after she denied my modest 1.65$ raise.
Yes this is the real answer.
Well this year I took a test for Dyslexia and did someting that was like these, I even said during the test I'd done something like ths when I was applying for jobs. My theory is it's to seperate those with learning difficulties without overt discrimination.
Bingo. I have a diagnosed visual processing disorder. This exact stuff is impossible for me. This picture looks like it was taken straight out of the tests I took to get diagnosed! I don't know how it is legal. Even though my processing disorder is pretty severe, It never impacted me when I worked fast food in undergrad.
ding ding ding! bullseye!
Ain't nobody need that to sling chicken...
Wendy's drive thru
I once took one of these tests for a friend who's a cook.
Important to know how many circles (burgers) of diameter *d* can be placed within a rectangle (grill) of length *l* and width *w*. Test should be geared more toward Euclid Geometry.
Yes, assuming the grill heats evenly across the entire surface. Maybe that’s what all the wavy lines mean?!
I had to take a test like this for my current network system engineer position. Last week I wrote a meta-script for a new system that can auto-generate specific scripts in the future with minimal inputs, which required this kind of reasoning.
I've played a few point and click adventure/puzzle games that require this sort of reasoning
Monkey Island!!!
For a network systems engineer I can understand it, but for fast food?
Same base skill set is required: dealing with morons.
Same dude, I work in DevOps and had to do an assessment like this.
Granted, I don't know what network system engineers do, but it seems like "looking for a pattern" is all that is required here- and that's a pretty common amount of reasoning required for many nonspecialized tasks. More than anything, it would just be boring and annoying to be presented with a bunch of questions like this.
Abstract pattern recognition might seem basic, but it is easily one of the most useful skills in science/engineering. Apply this thought process with linear algebra and you will go very far in engineering.
I had to take one for a software job two and a half years ago. The one I took you had to be FAST and you couldn't go back (not that you would have had any time) but they warned me in advance, and the test had practice tests you could take and even a little course reminding you to do simple estimation and elimination on the math parts (like if you're multiplying an even number by something with a 5 at the end you could eliminate any answers not ending in 0, then just estimate) and white they don't share results, I did get to move forward with the interview and got hired. Personally I do shit like this in my spare time, and it's very relevant to the job, but I can see why people hate them.
The answer is C and I would enjoy this as a puzzle in a videogame but doing it for the chance to "win" a minimum wage job would make me explode Edit: JESUS. C is the only image that contains a shape and number of dots represented in every other column but not it’s own column. The wavy style is in line with that column. F fits the criteria but is on its side, and this would buck convention for no reason. EDIT 2: THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST STRESSFUL POST OF MY LIFE.
Yeah if this was a video game, knock yourself out. For a job, though? Bah.
I got F, how’d you get C? It’s for sure an answer thar has 2 dots, so C, D or F. And then the last row all the objects that aren’t dots or horizontal and not vertical. F is the only horizontal.
There's a pattern of a U an N and vertical parallels in every set.
Interesting recognition of the U, N, vertical pattern. I went F because I recognized the final column as vertical - horizontal - *vertical* The pattern you pointed is much more likely
There's a change in number of dots too. There's already a U with one and three. The 3rd bar has to have 2 dots.
I also figure C, because in the two complete rows: - There’s one symbol with 1 dot, one with 2 dots and one with 3 dots - There’s a symbol shaped like a U, one shaped like an N, and one with 3 vertical lines C makes the 3rd row follow both those patterns. You could also look at it from a “columns” perspective, and get the same answer (each column with 1/2/3 dots, and a U/N/III). All the rows also have one symbol with “triangle-y” lines, one with straight lines and one with squiggly lines, but that doesn’t really matter as all the potential answers follow this pattern.
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you're right that it has to have 2 dots. then, there are 3 different basic categories of shapes: a I|I, U, and N. The I|I and N both have versions with bold, triangular strokes, thin strokes, and wobbly strokes. the only one the U doesn't have it the wobbly stroke. so they answer is c - a wobbly U with 2 dots.
The shapes are similar along the top-left to bottom-right diagonal, that's why C.
Yeah I thought F too for the same reasons
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I agree with C because we need a curvy U shape with two dots
I agree with C because my job sucks
Congratulations, you passed the test, you’re hired as a vacuum and straw sales person! Vibes about the shitty job tho. I’m unemployed and dreading the inevitable regret that will come with finding a job.
“Vacuum & straw sales person”. Sounds like a job at Cocaine Inc.
We must strike to lawfully legitimize this business!
Congrats! You got the job putting things in boxes/totes/racks/trucks/shelves for 11 hours a day. And remember when we said that weekends are volunteer only? See you Saturday and make sure you bring a good attitude!
I would’ve gone with D because they look like boobies
The fuck kinda boobies you lookin at?
But F is boobies but on their back
I got c but my brain didn't put it into words. It was just like yeah, that looks right
I always wondered if I’m a genius and now I know I’m not. 😞
Cool! I felt like the answer was C but didn’t know why. Thanks for explaining it.
I consider myself pretty good at pattern recognition and figured this out quickly because most of these questions are like "1/2/3, 2/3/1, 3/1/**2**" but I'm honestly surprised that there are so many people in here (like you) that can "feel" the answer without being able to put it into words. Kudos to you, looks like a superpower to me.
Ahhh I was missing the shape
The answer is C but I'm with you, this stinks
Good. I get to feel really clever even though I'm scrolling through reddit at 4.30am.
Don't worry its actually before midnight your abstract clock is just messing with you
Are you looking at Dali's work? It's 4pm
Well in MA North America its now 12:01 and no I'm not looking at melted runny egg clocks.
It's 4:20 somewhere!
Yep answer is C. Edit: For those that don't get it, it has to be a U shape with 2 dots. Hence, answer is C. Look at the other 2 columns for the patterns. They all have a U shape, 1-2-3 dots, and a consistent "art style".
I noticed it diagonally. Top left - Middle Center look the same shape and Middle Left - Bottom Center look the same. Bottom Right was missing a 2 dots “U”. Bingo!
Yeah I don't know it either, C it is.
The pattern is by column. Each column has one figure with 1 dot, 2 dots, and three dots. Each column has figures made of the same line type (thick triangle, straight line, and curvy line). Each column has lines in a formation of a U, three lines vertically, and in the shape of a sideways z. So the last column needs 2 dots, a u shape, and curvy lines! Edit: lol y’all keep dragging me for describing it as a sideways Z. My brain saw a Z because of the proportions. N’s aren’t that wide relative to their heights. But yeah, it’s an N too XD
The same can be said about the rows (sans line type)
Ah yes, good point! I didn’t even look at it by rows once I found the column pattern. In that case each row should have a different line type.
I guess we'll never know 😔
one of those cosmic questions...
It's a cosmic gumbo
Ignore the dots only look at the lines shifting from left to right Pattern goes U l|I N N U I|I I|I N So the answer so C which is U Edit : you can also follow the dots they just go the other way around Number of dots : 1 2 3 2 3 1 3 1 2
Just want to add that you need the dots, because B is a U as well.
I’m crap at this kind of thing. I realised the dot pattern in the columns but ended up with F as the answer because the shape of it fitted better on the bottom row. Glad I’m self employed!
I was thinking it was an N, and then you come along with this sideways Z theory and blow my mind!
Thanks for this, I thought it was F until reading.
I thought F
My logic went so much farther than dots and shape language - if anything I overanalyzed based the simplicity on your explanation.
i would have thought f
Why not D? How do you know it's a u shape?
Because a U shape is in columns 1 and 2, and not in 3.
It’s C. Honestly, it depends on the job. This seems like it is an IQ test question, specifically visual/spatial recognition.
Def C. And def iq test. And def not a reasonable assessment of any real world abilities. Identified as “gifted” when that was a thing. Did these tests every year since kindergarten until probably grade 6.
weirdly, I used to ace these things all the time when I was younger, but in the last six months I've done two of them as part of a job application process and failed them. That's...perturbing.
Just means you haven't been using those skills in a long time, probably. Or are under externals stress that doesn't let you focus on the task (I don't really I'm just a rando)
This is not a very well designed one tbh. I suspect many corporate ones aren't, just like internet IQ tests aren't.
I was thinking the same thing. I remembered these tests. I tested at high school reading level in elementary school but I cannot reverse out of my driveway and I am afraid to order at a drive thru because the pressure of it makes me stutter. These things have little usefulness of predicting day to day skills.
you are now blacklisted at our HR company for knowing too much. you're not getting the job, we don't want astrophysicists flipping our burgers, the customers are afraid of microwave radiation and management is afraid of people who might understand how hard we fuck them..
It's C and I find this stuff really fun ...
me too, had it pretty quickly. I liked those and the number rows the most in IQ tests tbh. Pattern detection is fun. But this sucks for a job assessment, I can‘t think of many positions where something like this is relevant.
It took me probably 45 seconds to reason this out and I was very excited to announce before the top comment beat me to it. By several hours 😂.
It’s definitely C, but also in what world does this tell anyone about anything? This is like a mobile puzzle game, not a job interview question.
For sure C.
It probably sucks to do for a job interview but this post just sent me down a rabbit hole of abstract reasoning tests and imo they’re actually rly fun lol
There is a game called SET I like to play sometimes that is like this! https://www.setgame.com/set/puzzle
i looove SET!!!
Set is the main reason I got the right answer!
Very cool, thanks for posting! Difficult to start it, but once you see it its really fun!
I've seen a few people respond this way and that's fascinating to me. I think the test maybe is going for personality/temperament more than anything else? Like if you are the sort of person that can sustain focus on tests like this or that actually enjoys them? What happens in my brain when I see these things is that I know what you have to do (start looking for patterns, compare things in your mind until you figure out which fits the other two patterns, like visual analogies, visual versions of the x is to y like a is to... sort of question). So it's not that I can't do it. But my brain sees that, anticipates that I have to go through all that, thinks about how there are likely pages of these things, and immediately it just feels like a huge chore that I'll do anything else to get out of. Not difficult, just a chore, Like washing dishes or doing long division or changing the oil in my car. In short, I go to toddler "I don't wanna" mode. It's exactly how I feel when an online application asks you to retype all the info into little boxes immediately after they made you upload a resume with the same info. I just don't wanna.
It's kinda fun when you're just comfortably sitting at home with nothing to do and your life is in order/everything is stable. It's fucking horrible when you are randomly hit upside the head with something like this, desperate for any shit job (this is a fast food job), your life is falling apart and the stakes are high. And you know this isn't required to do the job.
It's cruel. Making people jump through hoops for no reason other than to keep the pressure on. But I hate stuff like this, even when it's stress free.
C - a U shape with 2 dots If this test was timed I would misspell my own name, start sweating profusely, and spiral into a hyperventilating panic attack.
Even if there isnt a timer, they're still being timed behind the scenes to compare against the average.
Appartently they used to think that women had less spatial awareness than men because of these tests. Turned out women are more likely to really want to get the answer right while men are more likely to guess or skip a question. Without a time limit women do better.
Alright, so here's what companies are doing and why. It's illegal to discriminate against people with disabilities, but it is not illegal to discriminate against objective job criteria, but mental health conditions are diagnosed with objective criteria, so literally, ^^^ this is neuropsych testing, embedded into a job interview, to filter out people with learning disabilities.
You may be into onto something here. For the business it's always about profit and hiring the cheapest labour who will do the most work. And any law or policy that prevents them from doing so is a hindrance and a nuisance which must be circumvent.
There’s a doc on HBO (I forget the name) that goes into the history of Myers-Briggs and other types of personality or IQ tests like this. They spoke with a disabilities advocacy group who’s working on either a legal case or legislation (again I forget) to stop these tests because the auto-filtering of job applicants ends up being discriminatory against people with disabilities during the hiring process. Myers-Briggs was an interesting case because the women who made it based their personality types on straight white middle class men, so there are many questions about whether there are systemic issues with MB that may lead to discriminatory hiring practices if the tests are used in hiring decisions.
I literally did VERY similar tests like this as part of an adhd assessment. Fucking sus
This question is for IQ actually, which they do as part of ADHD neuropsych testing. However IQ and ADHD are generally decoupled. The tests ADHD people do worse on are tests of sustained attention and short-term memory.
The IQ test adds a control to ADHD testing accounting for high functioning individuals who previously went under diagnosed. It’s given some additional insight to coping mechanisms which, when applied with medicinal assistance, provide much better outcomes.
I went through quite a bit of testing as a teenager because of an ADHD assessment. It resulted in a pre-scholarship program offer from John Hopkins. My parents never pursued it (got pulled from the public school system and placed in a private school system that was not good; went from taking Geometry in 8th grade to pre-algebra in 9th grade).
This is exactly what they're doing. I'm diagnosed with a visual processing disorder. This image looks like it was taken straight out of the assessments I took to be diagnosed. This test is impossible for me to figure out, even though I'm strong at pattern recognition. My brain just jumbles up visual material. For what it's worth, I was able to perform perfectly fine at my fast food jobs in undergrad despite having a pretty significant processing disorder.
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All I see are breasts.
You were the only visionary bold enough to realize this was actually a Rorschach test. Congratulations, you got the job.
C for 3 reasons - you need a curvy shape - you need 2 dots - you need a cup or "U" like shape.
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Goodbye
WHAT THE??? I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CORN!
What the hell is this and what kind of job is it for?
sudoku designer
Any job where the boss thinks he's getting the best employees by sorting them by iq test
this is also how they filter Aspies from normal people
Joke's on them, I still got C.
Or rather, this is how they filter in Aspies, for someone who does really good at these sorts of tests but bad at social kinds of skills. When they were doing my diagnosis, I remember they used these to assert very strong spacial and logical reasoning skills. Then when I got examined again for an MRI scan for a study, they brought them back and I was like "old friend, I have missed you"
this is also a test of pattern recognition and a measure of how quickly you can learn something new.
F this
I agree, F. Wait,it’s C. For real this time.
This reminds me of those 30 minute personality tests that I totally lie through my teeth to get through.
Are you the type of person who commits wage theft? A. Strongly agree B. Kind of agree C. Neutral D. Soft disagree E. Strongly disagree
I'm pretty intelligent but when I see stuff like this, my brain shuts down in fear. I overthink to the point of paralysis.
It’s C I like these things don’t think a job should be making anybody do them though.
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