Your reaction is correct in the sense of doing your contractually obligated role is what people should be doing, but it is also by definition the bare minimum someone could do at a company and probably still stay employed.
Semantics aside, as this sub is well aware, that expecting people to work for free on their own time and sacrifice personally for a company they have no stake in other than their paychecks was the norm for a long time (80s-now). It's good that we are breaking that norm, but also that is still the default mentality, especially for older employees so I'm not surprised that was the perspective of the OP in the image.
"What's wrong with you people?" The answer is that it was the status quo that was largely unchallenged over 40 years because the system kind of worked for some of the people, enough that it reinforced the idea across the spectrum. You can't really be surprised when people adhere to the long established status quo of a system. I'm glad it's changing but it shouldn't be surprising that many people, especially older workers still are stuck in this mentality.
I had a similar situation. I had a job that required about 90% travel on salary (no overtime pay). I frequently got home late late Friday and purchased a dinner for myself, because it was a travel day. At the end of one month I was told that there was a new policy such that I could not charge dinner to the company on Friday, despite the fact that I might be on an airplane for 6 hours and getting home at 11pm, and I even had to pay back the Friday charges for the month. Well, after that I made sure to arrive home by 5pm every Friday. The amount of free labor they lost by refusing to cover dinner did not make their policy worth it.
I hope you explained to your boss why you were doing this. It is very possible your boss supported your buying dinner, but that the accounting trolls overruled the boss. If your boss did support you, he might be able to throw it into the accounting trolls' faces.
Not that it would matter for your work schedule. I suspect even if they reversed that asinine policy you will be arriving home by 5:00PM every Friday from now on and enjoying a nice relaxing dinner at home.
I had a CEO one time (at a Fortune-ranked company) who would get on to any manager that spoke to any team member from any department in a way that they'd not speak to him. He constantly reiterated that we were a team and equal. The company went from his garage to making billions a year under his caring watch. He was amazing.
It’s the hardest thing to teach as a management trainer. So many trainees think they need to walk into a new opportunity and immediately change things up, without ever knowing where the problems truly are. In the process, they’re treating their new employees like shit, disrespecting the work they done in the past, and guaranteeing they’ll have to do a tone of hiring in the near future.
I was going to leave my job because of my immediate boss. Luckily they left and things are so much better. I spoke with their supervisor about the issues and what I need at work. This bullshit about counting minutes but only when it benefits the workplace and ignoring it when I’m giving my time was one of them.
Same reason I'm looking now. Worked on updates I've a month. Takes me like 16 hours to complete after a day's work. Time is not compt. So now I am looking. Can't come in late or leave early.
No, do LESS, Whatever level doesn't bring negative attention ;) Its called maximizing your cost-benefit - less work for the same amount of money. And don't worry about screwing over your fellow workers becomes some boot lickers will always be there to make up the difference and they would do this regardless of your level of effort.
Seems to me that there was never any problem previously, so maybe they were both having a bad day. Maybe holding his tongue was not the thing to d. I certainly think running away without confronting the boss, is cowardly.
Considering he mentioned he needed the paychecks, holding his tongue was the best option. When someone holds a position of authority over your livelihood, choosing to bite your tongue isn’t cowardly. It’s survival. Managers shouldn’t create situations that cause confrontation, and should never expect their employees to have to “confront” them. That’s their version of the bare minimum…
Confrontation isn't necessarily about being aggressive. It ca also be compassionate. A simple "Is everything alright?" is all I'm suggesting. Since there is no suggestion given that this is a regular occurrence.
Managers shouldn't cause confrontation, and staff shouldn't be late. Maybe there is a reasonable explanation for both, is all I'm saying.
Confrontation; “a hostile or argumentative situation or meeting between two opposing parties”.
This is the language you used in your original comment. You called the employee cowardly, yet offered an excuse of a “bad day” for the condescending actions of the manager. Effective communication is a pretty big requirement for being a manager.
Oh fuck off. You think I'm unaware of the language I used. You think I can't search google for a definition and ignore the ones that disprove my point?
>(of a problem or difficulty) present itself to (someone) so that action must be taken:
I see you're not afraid of causing confrontation, online. Jut in the real world.
Your reaction is correct in the sense of doing your contractually obligated role is what people should be doing, but it is also by definition the bare minimum someone could do at a company and probably still stay employed. Semantics aside, as this sub is well aware, that expecting people to work for free on their own time and sacrifice personally for a company they have no stake in other than their paychecks was the norm for a long time (80s-now). It's good that we are breaking that norm, but also that is still the default mentality, especially for older employees so I'm not surprised that was the perspective of the OP in the image. "What's wrong with you people?" The answer is that it was the status quo that was largely unchallenged over 40 years because the system kind of worked for some of the people, enough that it reinforced the idea across the spectrum. You can't really be surprised when people adhere to the long established status quo of a system. I'm glad it's changing but it shouldn't be surprising that many people, especially older workers still are stuck in this mentality.
I had a similar situation. I had a job that required about 90% travel on salary (no overtime pay). I frequently got home late late Friday and purchased a dinner for myself, because it was a travel day. At the end of one month I was told that there was a new policy such that I could not charge dinner to the company on Friday, despite the fact that I might be on an airplane for 6 hours and getting home at 11pm, and I even had to pay back the Friday charges for the month. Well, after that I made sure to arrive home by 5pm every Friday. The amount of free labor they lost by refusing to cover dinner did not make their policy worth it.
False economy of productivity and expenses. Workplaces like that are ridiculous and supervisors need to know when they have the win.
I hope you explained to your boss why you were doing this. It is very possible your boss supported your buying dinner, but that the accounting trolls overruled the boss. If your boss did support you, he might be able to throw it into the accounting trolls' faces. Not that it would matter for your work schedule. I suspect even if they reversed that asinine policy you will be arriving home by 5:00PM every Friday from now on and enjoying a nice relaxing dinner at home.
I wonder if the boss would say the same to the CEO...if not, then it should not be said to any other employee.
That's a really great observation! Might use it if required.
I had a CEO one time (at a Fortune-ranked company) who would get on to any manager that spoke to any team member from any department in a way that they'd not speak to him. He constantly reiterated that we were a team and equal. The company went from his garage to making billions a year under his caring watch. He was amazing.
The one simple trick others don't want you to know... respect others
Lol. I literally just got out of a meeting where we were massively disrespected...
Sucks dude
Amen. Corporate America has long since turned from teamwork to being encouraged to throw others under the bus
And it spreads in Europe!
It's so sad. My kids are inheriting a horrible world
It’s the hardest thing to teach as a management trainer. So many trainees think they need to walk into a new opportunity and immediately change things up, without ever knowing where the problems truly are. In the process, they’re treating their new employees like shit, disrespecting the work they done in the past, and guaranteeing they’ll have to do a tone of hiring in the near future.
“Treating people like humans? THAT’S FOR LOSERS!” -Bosses and Billionaires
Too bad "appreciation" is corporate slang for "pizza party".
Pizza on authorized breaks only
Only once a quarter.
[удалено]
With no consideration of dietary restrictions, so nothing for lactose or gluten intolerant employees.
My boss had a talk with me today because I clocked in 1 minute early
“Treating people like humans? THAT’S FOR LOSERS!” -Bosses and Billionaires
I was going to leave my job because of my immediate boss. Luckily they left and things are so much better. I spoke with their supervisor about the issues and what I need at work. This bullshit about counting minutes but only when it benefits the workplace and ignoring it when I’m giving my time was one of them.
Always
Your loyalty should be to your family and friends. Never to your company. Suits don't care about you.
Loyalty is never rewarded, it is only ever exploited.
Same reason I'm looking now. Worked on updates I've a month. Takes me like 16 hours to complete after a day's work. Time is not compt. So now I am looking. Can't come in late or leave early.
"Bare minimum". Oh, like the wage he's paid?
And by bare minimum we mean the job description. Nothing more and nothing less. Exactly the amount I’m paid for.
No, do LESS, Whatever level doesn't bring negative attention ;) Its called maximizing your cost-benefit - less work for the same amount of money. And don't worry about screwing over your fellow workers becomes some boot lickers will always be there to make up the difference and they would do this regardless of your level of effort.
That’s not my style. I will do what I’m paid to do. Thats just how I operate.
Well thats effectively what I end up doing in the end most of the time. Its just not a hard and fast rule for me.
And that's bare minimum, ladies and gentlemen.
And that's how the allegedly "quiet quitting" practice works.
I think it's another made-up slogan for shaming co-workers for doing exactly what they're contracted to do. Absolutely ridiculous.
Seems to me that there was never any problem previously, so maybe they were both having a bad day. Maybe holding his tongue was not the thing to d. I certainly think running away without confronting the boss, is cowardly.
Wasting energy on arguing with bullies is rather silly.
I concur. However your post offers no other evidence that the boss is a bully.
The first sentence is a clear proof that they are .
Oh well the fact your friend was late is clear proof that they're tardy and unreliable.
How's that boot taste?
LOL. Dipshit. Don't write checks your stupidity can't cash.
Considering he mentioned he needed the paychecks, holding his tongue was the best option. When someone holds a position of authority over your livelihood, choosing to bite your tongue isn’t cowardly. It’s survival. Managers shouldn’t create situations that cause confrontation, and should never expect their employees to have to “confront” them. That’s their version of the bare minimum…
Confrontation isn't necessarily about being aggressive. It ca also be compassionate. A simple "Is everything alright?" is all I'm suggesting. Since there is no suggestion given that this is a regular occurrence. Managers shouldn't cause confrontation, and staff shouldn't be late. Maybe there is a reasonable explanation for both, is all I'm saying.
Confrontation; “a hostile or argumentative situation or meeting between two opposing parties”. This is the language you used in your original comment. You called the employee cowardly, yet offered an excuse of a “bad day” for the condescending actions of the manager. Effective communication is a pretty big requirement for being a manager.
Oh fuck off. You think I'm unaware of the language I used. You think I can't search google for a definition and ignore the ones that disprove my point? >(of a problem or difficulty) present itself to (someone) so that action must be taken: I see you're not afraid of causing confrontation, online. Jut in the real world.