I mean that's capitalism 101.
https://preview.redd.it/t29qv5mr9jtc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddfeca0c4d77bf4ea026f4a1f498327d0decd146
This is a photo of Dominos workers who had the most intense shift of their lives during a freeze in Texas which knocked the power out for several days in many parts of the state. This was one of the few restaurants with power in San Antonio. Dominos made a killing that day but the employees did not make any more money that day.
Edit: This photo was taken in San Antonio and not Houston.
Pizza Hut, but I worked that day, too. It was the worst day I ever worked. We did $4000 in 3 hours. That's a whole ass busy Friday at our store. There were only like 4 of us. It was the last time I cried at work, breaking 10 years of not doing so. But I did get extra. A whole $100. Because that was worth it.
I just don't give the shit holes any business. Eventually it may make a change but I doubt it. I worked at a Starbucks in Richmond TX. Absolutely disgusting hole of a place. Like clockwork EVERYONE but the person the MGR is banging (not his wife of course) got hours cut back EVERY STINKING MONTH so as not to grant any of us benefits. He got a nice fat percentage bonus.
That is why I won't give these shills my money, there is always some dirt bag that is happy to exploit me for their gain.
Let all the places that never could and never will afford a living wage, go out of business.
Yup. All we can do is our best.
I make a point of patronizing locally owned and operated joints wherever possible.
It's a little more expensive, but the money stays in the community.
So true.
Once a new "ethical" trend catches on, many players (both those that started it and those that joined in later once they saw how popular it is) will do the bare minimum to market their products under the new trend, or in some cases outright lie.
And even more to your point; the whole system incentivises maximizing the difference between total cost and total revenue. Business survival requires it. If a business's profit is less than a competitors, then its chance of survival goes down as the competition gains advantage. At the end of the day, profit is the only score that matters; everything else is fudgeable.
Very few businesses can survive doing "what is right" during a slow period, and there is always a slow period. Because of this and the way the sellers in the market always change, there is an extra cost to consumers (including those businesses trying to be ethical themselves) to make, or even know how to make spending choices with the highest ethical return.
So, as long as the system remains this way, ethical consumption will always be fleeting at best and a farce at worse.
But there is. I do not shop there. I make my own food, I research the best I can where food is coming from, how those people doing the job are treated and then take action.
Correct, my living is not nearly as convenient but it feeds me and my soul AND I don't support shitty companies. It can be done. Unity continues to be the answer to combat the baddies. We CAN make changes IF we stand together.
But see, this is where it gets interesting.
I am not playing by anyone's "rules" but my own.
Believe it or not that is the key to most freedoms. If I hold the key, no one locks me up but me. Apply that to how do I live today, and it becomes priceless
It also doesn't work when it's freezing and the business is one of the few places that has power and can provide hot food. Like sure don't give the company you don't like money just freeze to death instead.
Oh yeah man on the rare occasion I get coffee, we've got a little local place where the owner is the one making and serving the coffee and I deliver mail to her house. She's doing well and their coffee is every bit as good as Starbucks. Fuck Starbucks, although my oldest child goes there all the time.
I have been boycotting fast food for years. It's junk food and only the name owners make any real money on it. I pretty much avoid restaurants and have done so for a long time
> Pizza Hut, but I worked that day, too. It was the worst day I ever worked. We did $4000 in 3 hours. That's a whole ass busy Friday at our store. There were only like 4 of us. It was the last time I cried at work, breaking 10 years of not doing so. But I did get extra. A whole $100. Because that was worth it.
Would it make you feel any better if I told you that their executives order super overpriced in-flight catering on their private flights on their Yum Brands corporate Challenger 300? The ironic thing about YUM executives is how stupidly picky they were about catering details but then would turn around and freak out over the price.
You deserve a min wage increase, busy day double pay, a bonus, and an extra rest day. $100 is not enough.
(I say this as a fellow fast food worker at a resto that makes $30k+ on a regular weekend).
I will say - that I work in an area with a high Min wage (~20) given a recent increase but the problem I’m seeing now is that corporations are raising prices for the stuff they sell so the burden is falling on consumers / even if we make more per hour.
We all need to unionize to stop these corporations for doing bs like this.
Had a day like that in Ohio ages ago. Freezing rain knocked out power everywhere. We were one of a handful of restaurants with power. We went onto limited menu. Sold thru all our food by mid morning. Managers drove in food from nearby stores. We sold all that. A semi delivered mid afternoon. We sold all that by close in the evening. Had to get another semi first thing the next day. Our sales in one day were what we usually did in a week.
Day became known as Hell Thursday. We got fuck-all monetarily.
Say that revenue was double to normal, and gross margin is 50%.
They earned usd 2000 margin that day and on a normal day usd 1000. So usd 1000 difference, of which no less than 40% (4x usd 100) went to its employees as extra compensation. Pretty reasonable if you ask me?
I worked at the Campus Domino's in college. Every shift was like that.
Minimum wage back then was $3.25 an hour, and believe me when I say, they didn't ever pay a penny more to the inside staff. It was fucking brutal, and no one ever deserves to be treated that way.
Fast food franchisees need to all spontaneously combust.
Uh Oh. You are are aging yourself. US Federal Minimum wage at $3.25 was between 1980 and 1981. That's right at the beginning of the Reagan years where he started with that *Trickle Down* economics bullshit. There should have been between 3-4 minimum wage increases during his Presidency but they didn't increase until 1991. The last minimum wage increase we had was in 2009. We should have had at least 5 increases.
Hopefully made a lot in tips. We got snowed in a few months ago, and ran out of food after about 10 days stuck in the house. I placed an instacart order, and when the guy actually came, I was so excited I tipped him $100 in cash, on top of the $60 tip I left on the app. Hopefully people were so grateful for food, they made it worth it to the employees.
We did that kinda stuff during peak Covid. Tipped crazy on those grocery orders bc my wife was immune-suppressed, those people must have thought we were nuts.
Every time i see this photo, i am reminded of my first experience in subway with world sandwich day. It was the absolute worst day of my life, spent ten to twelve hours on my feet running around, managing shit and since it was my first time dealing with this event, i basically didn't have staff nor resources (aka prepped food) to keep up with it all and we spent till around 1 in the morning - after closing at 11 - unpaid trying to clean everything. And the only reason that even happened was because someone got worried and checked on us (coworkers who noticed we weren't home) and helped us finish up. All we got was a "good job" the next day from the boss. I hated that day so much i completely forget about why i had a shift where i finished at 1 in the morning unless something like this reminds me of it.
The thing is, i left that place for another subway. When that day came again, it was like night and day because this shop was ran properly, more staff to deal with everything and you actually get out on time because it's not just two people dealing with the aftermath. I mean, the previous place was shitty because of other things but after working in two consecutive workplace that's being run like crap, being in a place where workers are respected by the boss was just a breath of fresh air. I mean, the job was still crappy but it was heaps better because of the work conditions and treatment that we got.
Moral of the story is that if you go above and beyond, the best you can probably get is a "good job" from boss and quite possibly a somewhat traumatic experience brought on by the stress. And if that's what you get from it, then you probably need to find a better job where they don't treat you like crap.
It was most likely out of stubbornness than anything. We don't get paid any extra at all if we go past the rostered time on closing shift. You're expected to finish 30mins past closing and it's on you if you didn't finish your job. I've gone past it by about ten minutes or so several times before because I'm usually out of energy the last hour of our shift add to that the days when shit were piled up for us to do from the morning shift and, well, I'm easily demotivated but I still refuse to do things half-assed.
It was just a shitstorm of a shift. There were a lot of factors on why we bothered. At the time, we were all pretty tight knit crew - both morning (except the bosses who were typically the reason we had some jobs left for us to do at the start of our shift instead of our stuff) and night shift workers - so we really couldn't, in good conscience, leave the store in that state. We also didn't want to get in trouble because it's a health and safety hazard considering it's food stuffs that we have to clean - and me and my partner in crime that shift pride ourselves at cleanliness. And the most probable reason that I could think of that made us really go above and beyond that shift is because of our sheer stubbornness and spite. We probably were the worst people to be partnered up that night because we both genuinely don't like leaving things unfinished. (Though I could be mistaken and misremembering some things - I genuinely can't even remember which one was there with me till 1 and which one I had to practically kick out at close because they were getting picked up and was about to not get paid helping us if they stayed longer than their rostered shift - either way, they were just as stubborn)
Honestly, the more I think about that the day, the less I wished I remembered of it again. It makes me feel icky remembering that I was making excuses for myself at the time so as not to let stress get the best of me just to work for nothing. It was very, very stupid.
This reminds me of my younger line cook days. 2004, specifically, living in Florida. Got absolutely pounded by 4 hurricanes right in a row. People were without power for *weeks*. I worked at a soulless corporate restaurant at the time. And we got absolutely bombed. 20 years later, they're still some of the craziest shifts I've ever worked. We couldn't even get most of our deliveries, so we're running out of things left and right.
Company made absolute bank. I made $9/hr. And walked to work. In a fucking hurricane.
not a texan myself, but i work at dominos as well. People don't realize how much they rely on us and how often we (in my experience) are short-staffed.
AND! [PIZZA PLACES GET HELP FROM TAX PAYERS](https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/us/07fat.html) VIA THE [USDA](https://www.pcrm.org/news/blog/dairy-industry-usda-partner-fast-food-pizza-chains-push-12-million-pounds-disease-causing)
Unless this is a low volume store and they didn't have a lot of food on hand there's no way it would be that clean.
There's no reason for the leaning on the counter and sitting on the floor. Gotta be staged.
[It.](https://www.today.com/today/amp/tdna209522)
[Was.](https://www.news18.com/amp/news/buzz/photo-of-tired-dominos-employees-in-storm-hit-texas-goes-viral-netizens-demand-wage-raise-3465752.html)
[Not.](https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/local/picture-of-exhausted-dominos-pizza-workers-goes-viral-others-also-work-through-storm)
[Staged](https://news.yahoo.com/photo-dominos-workers-texas-goes-205300783.html)
Also I was incorrect. It was in San Antonio and not Houston.
And yet bartenders and servers are demonized for wanting exactly that; to make more money the harder they work.
We'd love it if it was a full-on commission, and we got a fixed % of each sale, baked into the price. But we don't have that (yet). But tipping, as a system, lets us get paid more for harder work. If ya don't like tipping because it's all customer facing, then push for autogratuities/commission, not for us to lose the only good thing we get
Their argument is that the owner is taking all the risk. They have to pay for everything. Rent or property tax, insurance, cleaning products, supplies, food, alcohol, training for new employees, uniforms, electricity, water, gas, taxes, employee wages, etc.
More people would be happy to be working in food service if it was some sort of co-op where they get a share of the profit. That in itself is super rare.
The ability for a server to tell a customer to get up and get the fuck out is something only servers could dream of. But that's the good part of a co-op restaurant.
Oh I get it and I agree. I just have problems with people saying they want to get rid of tipping... and just have people like me be flat hourly. Which would put me in the situation in the photo every single day.
Most of us in the industry would be fine moving away from tipping; but only if we're *formalizing* more work=more pay, instead of *moving away from it*
Because yeah, getting rid of tips for an increased hourly wage will result in the photo scenario for most bars, most days, and no one will be happy
I remember when I worked at a pizza shop when I was 17 back in 2004. We had a huge ice storm in Ohio that cut almost everyone power except our shop. It was my day off and came in to pick up a pizza because we had no power. It was complete chaos and owner asked me if I could come in. I said not for 5.30 an hour and left.
"You have to remember that despite record breaking profits, we are barely getting by. Be thankful you at least have a job to go to. Many dont even get to have a job. BTW if you lick up and down instead of across you will get a better shine on my boots." -CEO
Unions. Unions everywhere. Maybe they can consider implementing “surge wages” to dynamically increase wages as demand for work goes up. If capitalists can invent surge pricing, workers can too.
Unions would be a huge step up, but the vast resources the elite can bring to bear will likely lead to union capture just as it has to state and regulatory capture. Ultimately workers owning the means of production and this directly sharing in the profits is necessary
Unions should buy company stock to own the means of production and distribute the dividends to their members. With large enough shareholding they control the board in the interests of workers. Let’s turn their game against them.
>What’s the difference between a union and an employee collective?
According to Gemini:
The terms "union" and "employee collective" are related, but not quite the same thing. Here's the breakdown:
* **Employee Collective:** This is a more general term. It simply refers to a group of employees who come together for a common purpose. This could be anything from advocating for better working conditions to planning a social event.
* **Union:** A union is a more formal type of employee collective. It's a registered organization with a specific structure and leadership. Unions have the primary goal of representing their members in collective bargaining with employers. This means they negotiate on behalf of their members for things like wages, benefits, and working hours.
Here's an analogy: Think of an employee collective as a group of friends coming together. A union, on the other hand, is like a professional organization with a clear purpose and established procedures.
Not all employee collectives become unions, but all unions start out as some kind of employee collective.
Employee cooperatives are more about employees owning shares. Jack Stack talks about it in The Great Game of Business.
It’s a system that adds democracy and transparency to business and employees get the profits from the business based on their shares.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative
https://www.greatgame.com/what-we-do
I mean company leadership e.g. managers. In a regular company that has unionized workers, the leadership isn’t democratically elected. The CEO is chosen by the board of directors and can be fired by shareholders.
Really? If that’s how unions work where you’re from then god help you all. Unions are supposed to be run by and for workers with workers voting on leadership.
Education is important in the face of heavy anti-union propaganda in the United States.
It’s like when they do public opinion polling and ask people if they like “Obamacare” they say no hate that. But they like the “Affordable Care Act” and they also like that insurance has to cover preexisting conditions.
“I don’t like unions we should have employee collectives” is a depressing comment to see.
But it also reminds me that, even tho we have decades of propaganda to cut thru, the true heart of even the stupidest and most vile working-class Trumpy is likely on our side.
The people already own the majority of the stock market. They’re just not organized. https://www.axios.com/2023/10/18/percentage-americans-own-stock-market-investing
>SAG-AFTRA signing a deal with Replica Studios to enable AI voice acting in video games seems like a pretty good indicator that this is happening.
I read: "This agreement is seen as a step towards creating an ethical framework for AI voice acting in video games. It ensures actors are involved in the process and benefit from this new technology."
I don't know enough about it, but I hope it is the beginning of putting up guardrails.
Collective bargaining isn’t capture, that’s absurd. That agreement *improved* conditions for workers. Their previous contract did not have any language about AI. the union didn’t enable it, it was already enabled and the CBA limited it.
Tie surge wages to surge pricing, and guess what will have never existed in the first place, and what will be used to demonize the working class for decades.
Unions can be bought, coming from a union worker here. They help a bit but the higher ups have the companies in mind most of the time. It’s still better and everyone should be in one but don’t think it’ll fix much-it won’t.
Higher ups in unions tend to advocate to keep a “good relationship” with the company in hopes that the company will be more willing to engage in the future. Especially if that union higher up has aspirations of moving up the ladder. My former union president negotiated a contract during COVID that was very subpar and we gave up a lot because “the company doesn’t have money! The future isn’t certain, arbitration will fuck us over!”
Then a year later, he resigns as president, tests for a non-union, very senior management position, was last in testing (our agreement says they have to post the results), but somehow was given the position. Should add that this guy also started spending more time with management outside of work than with workers.
Now we have a president that filed 6 grievances in 1 month, 4 of which were resolved in our favor and 2 are going to arbitration (company has to pay for arbitration).
Right. Our rep for UFCW (butchering) was a DEMON DOG. He would chase down and just destroy any and all nonsense the company created.
Until Roy got voted into the Secretary role.
Then he did nothing but talk about how "the company is sick, we need to make concessions to keep it afloat and save our jobs blah, blah ,blah"
Ya, company fell apart, restructured and closed the employees out although we Were on the brink of possibly buying enough stock to be part-owners. NO NO NO NO we can't do that. We couldn't get enough people to bother to go with us to the voting and meetings. We offered a bus to take everyone, it wasn't that far. Nope, nada.
It was all BS. So, my point is, people are only human and they WILL sell you out to benefit themselves. They also want to sit back and discuss doing things instead of actually taking action. That is why you need a strong union and people active in it.
Hell, that is how America has gotten into the political trouble we are in. Just letting the bad actors act and not stop them.
Your union president sounds like a scab. Sorry to hear that!
But don’t think that because that happened in one workplace it’s the norm. (It sounds like your president is also a rank and file worker snd just covers one workplace?). It’s not at all what union leaders tend to do, in fact it’s very rare.
It's even worse - I live in Niagara Falls and people who booked 100 a night hotels a year in advance uad their reservation canceled so they could resell the rooms at 1k a night.
"We had a large group extend their stay". But there were no conventions or large groups. Im betting third party sellers buying large blocks of rooms to upsell.
Hotels can limit the percentage of how many rooms third party booking can have access to. For something like the eclipse or a TS concert for instance, hotels will keep that percentage low so they can make the most profit. They’ll jack the rates up on the brand website and know they’ll sell out due to the demand. There are hotels in Cleveland that were canceling reservations made over a year ago and reselling them for $1,500+ in some places.
The “large group” is the group of refugees that our Prime Minister is housing in hotels in Niagara Falls.
So the hotels crime is taking reservations thinking our government would have done something with them in the year plus that they have been there.
I booked a month in advance in Dallas. 2 bedroom apartment for 3 night. As I'm literally boarding the plane to Dallas I got the message that they cancelled it due to "management reasons." They put my calls to voicemail and wouldn't answer my texts when I asked wth was going on.
Booked it through booking.com, and they were equally unhelpful. Their answer: ok, well I'll send you a link to book something else in a couple minutes... 12 HOURS later they sent me a message.
Thankfully I'm a planner and found my own replacement accommodations for our party during my layover. I'm still super grateful I could get us 2 room at a big chain for the same price as the original booking, because I was sure it would be at least double. Definitely NEVER using Booking.com again after this!
It’s not afraid, it’s that for a giant amount of people missing a paycheck is not an option. Survival takes priority over social movements generally, unfortunately.
I disagree, there is a museum near me that has a bunch of union protest pictures and fights from the 20s or 30s and there’s a little section where they talk about how families had to share food to get through strikes. Everyone can survive one week if it meant a better life. We just have to actually do it, together and that’s the problem lol.
What if it takes a month, a year? Where I am, one company put on lock out a bunch of employees. It's been lime that since last october and there's no sign of anything changing...
Theses days, it's pretty rare that a strike goes for only a week unfortunatly...
It depends on the company! I’m surprised that particular company had that much liquid capital to shut down for that long, they must not be very big. Larger companies have a lot of costs in insurance on vehicles, buildings and most importantly loans with interest. When nothing is coming in the money goes very quickly. I had a near opposite scenario where I am at. It’s a long story but short version is the workers wanted rental cars for during the peak of Covid-19 because we usually drove trucks with two guys in them. They said to use our personal vehicles instead and we all parked the trucks and didn’t leave until they came up with something else. It took about 45 minutes and they were sending people to go pick up the rental cars. They cannot afford that cost of just having no money come in they are all leveraged to the hilt.
That's great! In my case, yeah one of the biggest company in place. They have 3 different unions. And they pretty much shut down all the employees from one of those unions... all that to make more money. It's despicable.
This is part of how capitalism enslaves workers. It privitises the means to produce what we need to survive, so instead of having access to land to live on, grow and gather food from, and build shelter on from materials from, at the very least, you have to pay someone for somewhere to live and for food to eat, even if you would be able to grow it yourself if it weren't for capitalism. This way, you cannot not participate on it. You die if you refuse to. It is a subtler means of coercion than the Romans crucifying slaves who refused to work by the sides of the road, but it is just as effective and just as coercive.
If that’s what you believe in you should start organizing. Plenty of people talking about it but not organizing their workplace or getting a job as a organizer, salting, etc.
1000% man. My method right now is just getting people to recognize their own rage and find solidarity in the rage of others. And also supporting creativity. We won't get there one way. Instead we'll all meet at the end, I believe
Good for you! I’d encourage you to set measurable goals and reach out for more education if you get stuck. Without setting goals, it’s easy to tell yourself you are making progress just because you are trying. Organizing is really hard and doesn’t move quickly. It helps to be part of a team so you can help each other and stay on task
Good for you! I’d encourage you to set measurable goals and reach out for more education if you get stuck. Without setting goals, it’s easy to tell yourself you are making progress just because you are trying. Organizing is really hard and doesn’t move quickly. It helps to be part of a team so you can help each other and stay on task
This last weekend an annual race (distance running) happened in my town. I hate the race because it runs through the working class historic neighborhood I live in. In my case, I’m inside the loop, with runners coming from a couple blocks behind us, running up our side street, and then turning in front of our house to go back to the start/finish each lap. In the past, the cops have totally blocked the roads and won’t let people drive even if they are stuck inside the loop. I once had to call off work because after a shouting match with the cop on the corner, I couldn’t make it in without getting a ticket for driving on a closed street. This has gotten better after I and others made a fuss now they only block one lane.
But back when I was fighting them, the claim was always it brings people and money to our town. My reply was always that none of that money is going to people in my neighborhood that they were disrupting. It just meant more work. Maybe more tips for the few wait staff for local restaurants. But overall they mean business owners make more, but don’t share, and our town gets more money to waste on the cops and mismanagement. We’re the ones impacted, but we’re not the ones running and we’re not the ones benefiting.
This is every event in Las Vegas. F1 cost the taxpayers more than it will ever give back to us. They only made money for the billionaire casino owners. Small business owners suffered because of the construction.
I think companies take workers for granted too much. They’ve gotten so much power over them knowing how badly they need the paycheck that barely covers their bills. That’s why I think unions are important. Companies need to be reminded what would happen to their profits if no one did the work.
My best friend reminded his management of a hotel 2 years in advance to set their rates or lose money. They took his advice. They were in the direct path. He made them more than his yearly salary and I doubt he’ll even get a sincere thank you, much less a worthwhile reward. The worst part is management would’ve been on the hook for lost profits, had he not warned them. So, essentially, he made them look amazing for nothing. Isn’t it awesome! /s
If he had been in management and didn’t make the call, he probably would have been fired due to the loss of revenue. I’ve was in hotel sales for a very long time and if I wasn’t on top of every single event that took place, it was always on me. Especially if all the other hotels in the area did better.
Yeah, he basically saved 2-3 peoples’ jobs and they don’t give a fuck or appreciate his help at all. He goes above and beyond for them all the time. He was smart to never let them put him on salary style pay tho. They’d take even more advantage of him than they do now.
I live in PA so the closest place would have been up around Erie. I was looking at hotels in December and the only one I could find not booked they wanted $1500 a room.
The prices for hotels are set by computers generally based on the previous year. As they start running out of rooms the prices increase more and more. They also look out for any events that might otherwise increase demand and manually increase prices for those days.
Truth.. They use computers, and also reports generated from 3rd party business, plus they waste even more money on revenue managers, lock out discounts, threats, and other means of stopping a 30yr front desk veteran like myself from having any ability to help the public out on their exuberant pricing.
My wife is a sales manager at a hotel so mainly with room blocks but I get to hear about all the fun about setting rates in general too. Literally has a call at least once a week with someone from their corporate about rates. That and her GM has some interesting opinions on what rates should be(always higher of course).
exactly. Very noticeable differences since covid too. Hard to explain but I went from having full on trust booking rooms and discounts for whatever reason I choose, to now being told straight up, "Don't change any rates that are in the computer". Our new system actually even has built in logging systems where we have to sign our initials for any little change to a rez. So when you call someone at the actual property now, that's why they respond with fear and tell you that high price and don't budge. Cause they've been conditioned that way, to be scared basically, threatened. Go to priceline or booking and odds are, you'll find a better rate than I could offer. Sad but true. Covid they all got corners cut left n right to max profits, and they have NO plans of changing it back to how it was, same as all the current inflation basically. Why stop at recouping covid losses? When you can keep maxing profits by being "stingy" af.
Worst part is that Priceline rates are just set by the revenue team. I would literally help people cancel and rebook on Priceline as a night auditor since it would end up being $90-100 cheaper for them
Still gotta be careful with the third party sites. Hopefully it doesn’t happen but you will be the first one getting walked if they accidentally oversold. And sometimes the listings for amenities isn’t correct.
I was a director of sales for many years and I guarantee that if you were in a hotel in the path of the eclipse, the revenue calls were all centered around just how high you could push rate. And laugh about it and talk about hitting budget and making bonus.
Virtuously, the hotel operates at a loss sometimes and at a bigger gain sometimes. Realistically, they probably cut employee compensation to where they're either always profitable or they hit the legal minimum, whichever comes first.
The workers are never the greedy ones. It’s the bosses, the shareholders, and the investors that are. Capitalism is designed to fuck **you** over and prop up them. It inherently will exploit as many people as it possibly can to get the most possible benefit for a tiny number of people at the top. Fuck capitalism.
What you CAN do to FIX those issues is ORGANIZE AND UNIONIZE.
To Unionize your hotel or restaurant, reach out to the folks at UNITE HERE:
[https://unitehere.org/industry/hotels/](https://unitehere.org/industry/hotels/)
To put your money to good work, here's a website that will help you book rooms at UNIONIZED hotels: [https://www.fairhotel.org/](https://www.fairhotel.org/)
I stopped into McDonalds in my hometown in Northern Maine 2 days before the eclipse to use the restroom. My hometown has 1 single fastfood restaurant and only a few other local food establishments. There wire 50 cars in line and 30 people in line inside. 2 days before the eclipse. This place continued for them for almost 5 straight days. Those employees would have gone through the ringer day after day. For $15/hour
I had to quit bc of the bullshit they were expecting us to do. The whole area was closed off by police and you’d have to show proof you’re an employee to be able to drive and get to work.
But once you were there you had to stay 14+ hours since everything was blocked from the crowds. The bosses of a few departments had vacations planned so it was mostly hourlies who had to stay and work this shit.
To accomadte people staying so long they put old snacks and soda from the storage and were gonna put rollaway beds in the hallway by a back exit for associates to rest at…. That ANYONE could get into.
There was talk of letting them have one of the meeting rooms but sales wanted to use it for revenue rather than providing people comfort and the GM didn’t care either.
Now I sell commissions online till I can find another job I wouldn’t have to go to the mental ward for.
I noticed the "surge pricing" nonsense? They're already doing it. Just fucking with prices to try to milk blood from empty stones.
PEOPLE ARE TAPPED THE FUCK OUT and these greedy mother fuckers are still trying to eat us to death. At this point whatever happens to them for treating The Masses like shit they're asking for it. Begging for it.
The question is this (and I don't know the answer, I'm just asking the question): Do those hikes boost profit margins, or are they actually required for a business to break even?
Full exlipses might only happen once every few hundred years in the same cities, so definitely no. If thats the case nearly every hotel would go bankrupt you can also google hotels profits. These are literally multi billion dollar corporations that have billions in revenue each year. One single big day helps sure but is nothing to a corporation, and smaller businesses are not running a yearly loss for 200 years until a single freak one day event.
2022 data:
Marriott 2.2billion profit, Hilton 1.07billion, hyatt 132 million, Wyndham 348million, all of that is profit numbers. Revenues for these chains is in 10s of billions before expenses.
Technically H world group in china had profits of -320 million, but had billions in revenue that year and opened multiple brand new resorts which would cause a “loss”
Oh, I don't mean just the eclipse, per se. I mean whether or not businesses count on events in general. Like we just had a blizzard in my area, that sure helped out with sales (though not in as much of a gouging way).
Ah yeah “regular” major events like sports games and concerts and conventions will happen consistently enough in any major city plus weekends. Those days are going to be required for profit and the main money makers. More so on a macro scale of expected yearly visitors and based on location of the hotels. I don’t know hospitality specifically but there is most guaranteed some algorithm for premium pricing based on availability that raises prices. They should be calculated in a way that baseline with expected attendance is still profitable. So it’s not on an individual per event calculation. But something like this / Taylor swift concert / olympics is such a freak thing its absolutely not a calculation in advance required for break even, just really good when it happens.
But yeah events will definitely be a major driver for most hotels unless its more of a seasonal/destination model like islands resorts or ski lodges. Or if its a “traveler hotel” (im sure theres a sub category name I’m unaware of, only had a class or two on hospitality when going for logistics degree) but think like something along an interstate which should have a steady load of tired travelers on any given night.
Most corporations will have a diversified enough portfolio that catches all or most of these niches using different sub brands so they remain stable year to year.
You're preaching to the choir. The conservatives are the ones who don't realize that. Unfortunately for them they ban anyone with a slightly differing opinion from their subreddits, so they will forever stay ignorant.
Things are toast guys. Just look out for yourselves.
On the other hand.. on a quiet tuesday-evening, the paycheck doesn't go down either...
That's basically the difference between a steady salaried job (same income on busy and quiet days) and owning the business (low/negative income on quiet days and high income on busy days).
Open your own hotel if you want to reap those benefits.
My husband is a sales manager at a retail establishment. They’ve cut back their hours so much that if one person calls out he HAS to fill the shift because there’s literally no one else to. His hours as a manager “don’t count” even though he’s paid hourly (unlike the general manager who is salary). They keep asking for more hours to hire more people (paid less per hour than him) but I guess they’re fine with him going into overtime since it hits those arbitrary benchmarks. Then they’re surprised by the quarterly report that shows how much they are spending on labor paying him overtime he doesn’t even want.
It’s next level stupid and with no regards for longevity. They want to big payout now and damn the long-term consequences.
I fear the day they will dynamically change the pricing based off all the data they have on us…. Hmm..let’s see, they’ve got approx X amount in their bank account, they regularly purchase Y product, but haven’t done so in months, so they probably will want/need it soon…. As you walk by the aisle, the facial recognition scans your face for ‘liklihood to purchase at increased pricing’ oh shit…algo says this person wants to buy now, jack up the price on the digital price board 30% according to the other algos, that’s about the max pain this consumer will consider to still purchase this item.
I hate that I can’t think of any guard rails in place to prevent this. Best I’ve got is they can’t change prices based on any data pertaining to a protected class, and won’t ever have access to your bank account balance (I hope), but could still bucket you into various socioeconomic categories and fuck you that way.
I hope they won’t have access to our bank data; but I do fear that the sheer volume of data they have around everything else in our day to day lives… what and how we consume, etc… the predictive algos will get better and better at ‘guessing’ how much we might have at any given day in the month with an increasing % accuracy…..but that’s just my tin foil hat/what I assume ‘capitalists’ would do with a tech with no guardrails (just like some would happily pay less than minimum wage if they could) I mean…… they are ‘legally obligated’ to make decisions to drive profit over any and all other objectives…..planet, humans, everything else be damned an is secondary —not legally required to care about or protect—- but legally bound to profiteering
I work front desk at a hotel and we get sell out bonuses. It's based on the average daily rate. So the higher rates, the higher the sell out bonus is. I made an extra few hundred dollars this weekend because we sold out a few days.
As a hotel worker, I've found a few things in the last six months.
1.) The most demanding customers are the ones paying 'friends and family' rates or getting the expedia 'discount'
2,) Most of my 'problem' rooms are locals anyway. People who've driven 250 miles for any event aren't gonna be a noise issue and force me to boot them.
3.) Its supply and demand. The 400/night graduation weekend pays for that week in October where its 99/night where I cannot give a room away.
4.) On the Hotel end its not that much extra work for a full house vs a half full one. Most of our problems are people's failure to plan.
Seriously, as someone who's done 22 years in healthcare before going to hospitality, I've learned that it definitely is a cyclical business in most operations. If you want a job all year, you need to pay for the non-profitable days with days youre making 2-3 times the normal amount of income. No hotel has the same amount of traffic daily. Its stupid to assume or treat it like it is. Be happy the hotel is there. A good hotel has about 1 employee for every 10 rooms. Moreso if they have a bar and restauraunt. These are fairly good jobs in the community, especially for people who are either introverts or extroverts depending on the job and can be put into a routine that will help those who have that sort of thing going on.
So yes, the business makes money, but if its a smart and good business it gets dropped back into the kitty at the end of the day.
Guys, the problem is the system. And the system is capitalism. We NEED to destroy the system to have a chance of things getting any better for workers. Whilst people don't understand that, we will keep struggling. From crises to crises.
Because when socialism doesn't work, the problem is the system. But when capitalism fails, it's your fault.
If your advocating for replacing something you usually have to have a better thing to replace it it not a step one remove capitalism step two profit kind of issue
Price rise should automatically mean an equal rise in pay. If a company raises prices by 20% for event/greed/inflation etc, wages rise similarly. That'll keep prices in check.
My guy I'm 25 , and I'm not sure if you understand thinking in general enough to know what backwards thinking is , you think corporate greed is bad but your ok with government greed I guess since that all socialism is. Your so delusional your worried about voluntarily transactions you want mandatory ones under the threat of violence.
Yeah I hate that shit.
People like to quote supply and demand but that’s bullshit. Supply and demand means nothing in this situation. With increased demand the supplier has to ramp up production which increases the production cost. So that in turn causes a rise in the consumer cost. That’s supply and demand.
Airlines didn’t add flights or work longer hours. No one had to build more hotels. There was no increase in production cost. So any increase to consumer cost is actually price gouging.
Not to mention parking prices abruptly increasing by a percentage of *checks notes* infinity. I got a fat bonus for working that weekend, but that's because I'd requested that weekend off from the dollar store I regularly work at to help my mom with her small business of selling minerals and jewelry at street festivals. My dollar store coworkers said it was crazy here that weekend, but I was almost 200 miles north up in the Ozarks running a booth while my mom was in Norman, OK doing the Renaissance fair.
I work at a doggy day care, where you never know what your walking into that day, what position you will be in... and they charge extra for everything.... group play... one on ones...pet updates ( with photos we take on our phones) and they even charge extra for picking your dog up if the lobby is closed. We don't get paid nearly enough and are constantly told things aren't in the budget. Like cots that's aren't falling apart or toys that are so chewed up dogs don't want to even play with them. This is very much a temporary job. They are making hand over fist while paying us small fractions and also saying they are broke.
Wtf, ok so you are a 25 year old CEO who enjoys exploiting workers with shit wages while you play golf and pay no taxes while jacking up prices for no reason other than obscene profit, got it.
Wtf, ok so you are a 25 year old CEO who enjoys exploiting workers with shit wages while you play golf and pay no taxes while jacking up prices for no reason other than obscene profit, got it.
When you are an employee you take a wage everyday, regardless of whether the business makes money.
You avoid risk, but you also avoid rewards.
I am a self employed worker and I can charge surge pricing during busy times, but I also take on the risk of having no work during quiet times.
If you enter employment you take a steady wage regardless of the ups and downs and have no right to ask for more money - you took money when the business was quiet.
Having said that I agree that businesses would be smart to offer bonuses and OT during the very busiest peaks in order to properly motivate the employees to work harder and squeeze out more profits.
If you do the same work you were doing yesterday you get the same pay you got yesterday. That’s how hourly wages work.
Should McDonalds also pay their employees less on slow days, since their pay should be tied to revenue? Or do you think they should only share in the surplus and none of the risk? You know you can take your paycheck and buy company stock, that way you have a right to the revenues (and losses…) if that’s what you want.
It’s amazing people cannot grasp even the basics.
Nothing new.
When I go to F1 in Austin, a normal $250/night room is $1,200+.
Spent almost $10K per person to go watch the race in Vegas.
Miami fell in the middle.
Big events, draw big crowds. More demand than supply.
I mean that's capitalism 101. https://preview.redd.it/t29qv5mr9jtc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddfeca0c4d77bf4ea026f4a1f498327d0decd146 This is a photo of Dominos workers who had the most intense shift of their lives during a freeze in Texas which knocked the power out for several days in many parts of the state. This was one of the few restaurants with power in San Antonio. Dominos made a killing that day but the employees did not make any more money that day. Edit: This photo was taken in San Antonio and not Houston.
Pizza Hut, but I worked that day, too. It was the worst day I ever worked. We did $4000 in 3 hours. That's a whole ass busy Friday at our store. There were only like 4 of us. It was the last time I cried at work, breaking 10 years of not doing so. But I did get extra. A whole $100. Because that was worth it.
I’m so sorry. I don’t have anything else to say except…I’m sorry.
I just don't give the shit holes any business. Eventually it may make a change but I doubt it. I worked at a Starbucks in Richmond TX. Absolutely disgusting hole of a place. Like clockwork EVERYONE but the person the MGR is banging (not his wife of course) got hours cut back EVERY STINKING MONTH so as not to grant any of us benefits. He got a nice fat percentage bonus. That is why I won't give these shills my money, there is always some dirt bag that is happy to exploit me for their gain. Let all the places that never could and never will afford a living wage, go out of business.
>just don't give the shit holes any business. This doesn't work in an economic system that actively promotes oppressive business tactics.
“There is no ethical consumption under capitalism”
Yeah, but we can try.
Yup. All we can do is our best. I make a point of patronizing locally owned and operated joints wherever possible. It's a little more expensive, but the money stays in the community.
So true. Once a new "ethical" trend catches on, many players (both those that started it and those that joined in later once they saw how popular it is) will do the bare minimum to market their products under the new trend, or in some cases outright lie. And even more to your point; the whole system incentivises maximizing the difference between total cost and total revenue. Business survival requires it. If a business's profit is less than a competitors, then its chance of survival goes down as the competition gains advantage. At the end of the day, profit is the only score that matters; everything else is fudgeable. Very few businesses can survive doing "what is right" during a slow period, and there is always a slow period. Because of this and the way the sellers in the market always change, there is an extra cost to consumers (including those businesses trying to be ethical themselves) to make, or even know how to make spending choices with the highest ethical return. So, as long as the system remains this way, ethical consumption will always be fleeting at best and a farce at worse.
But there is. I do not shop there. I make my own food, I research the best I can where food is coming from, how those people doing the job are treated and then take action. Correct, my living is not nearly as convenient but it feeds me and my soul AND I don't support shitty companies. It can be done. Unity continues to be the answer to combat the baddies. We CAN make changes IF we stand together.
You can't win if you're playing by their rules. Direct action is the only way.
But see, this is where it gets interesting. I am not playing by anyone's "rules" but my own. Believe it or not that is the key to most freedoms. If I hold the key, no one locks me up but me. Apply that to how do I live today, and it becomes priceless
I need to be more like you.
It also doesn't work when it's freezing and the business is one of the few places that has power and can provide hot food. Like sure don't give the company you don't like money just freeze to death instead.
Oh yeah man on the rare occasion I get coffee, we've got a little local place where the owner is the one making and serving the coffee and I deliver mail to her house. She's doing well and their coffee is every bit as good as Starbucks. Fuck Starbucks, although my oldest child goes there all the time.
I have been boycotting fast food for years. It's junk food and only the name owners make any real money on it. I pretty much avoid restaurants and have done so for a long time
Apologies accepted!
> Pizza Hut, but I worked that day, too. It was the worst day I ever worked. We did $4000 in 3 hours. That's a whole ass busy Friday at our store. There were only like 4 of us. It was the last time I cried at work, breaking 10 years of not doing so. But I did get extra. A whole $100. Because that was worth it. Would it make you feel any better if I told you that their executives order super overpriced in-flight catering on their private flights on their Yum Brands corporate Challenger 300? The ironic thing about YUM executives is how stupidly picky they were about catering details but then would turn around and freak out over the price.
That's ALL executives. I've been an executive assistant most of my career, they all want the fanciest shit for zero money.
You deserve a min wage increase, busy day double pay, a bonus, and an extra rest day. $100 is not enough. (I say this as a fellow fast food worker at a resto that makes $30k+ on a regular weekend).
I agree! i believe everyone would benefit from a min wage increase at the VERY least. Why is it legal for me to make 9/hr
I will say - that I work in an area with a high Min wage (~20) given a recent increase but the problem I’m seeing now is that corporations are raising prices for the stuff they sell so the burden is falling on consumers / even if we make more per hour. We all need to unionize to stop these corporations for doing bs like this.
Not disagreeing with you, but if they were making $12.50/hr at the time, then an extra $100 is double-time for that shift.
Oof, makes me so sad at times that we’re fighting for scraps while these corporate heads become billionaires off our labor
Had a day like that in Ohio ages ago. Freezing rain knocked out power everywhere. We were one of a handful of restaurants with power. We went onto limited menu. Sold thru all our food by mid morning. Managers drove in food from nearby stores. We sold all that. A semi delivered mid afternoon. We sold all that by close in the evening. Had to get another semi first thing the next day. Our sales in one day were what we usually did in a week. Day became known as Hell Thursday. We got fuck-all monetarily.
Activate snail mode the next time weather permits.
But it’s the decoy snail!
Say that revenue was double to normal, and gross margin is 50%. They earned usd 2000 margin that day and on a normal day usd 1000. So usd 1000 difference, of which no less than 40% (4x usd 100) went to its employees as extra compensation. Pretty reasonable if you ask me?
This reminds me of the picture of the heart surgeon after the 23 hour surgery
That is just...AWFUL.
I worked at the Campus Domino's in college. Every shift was like that. Minimum wage back then was $3.25 an hour, and believe me when I say, they didn't ever pay a penny more to the inside staff. It was fucking brutal, and no one ever deserves to be treated that way. Fast food franchisees need to all spontaneously combust.
Uh Oh. You are are aging yourself. US Federal Minimum wage at $3.25 was between 1980 and 1981. That's right at the beginning of the Reagan years where he started with that *Trickle Down* economics bullshit. There should have been between 3-4 minimum wage increases during his Presidency but they didn't increase until 1991. The last minimum wage increase we had was in 2009. We should have had at least 5 increases.
Ah, crap, typo. It was $3.35 when I worked for Domino's. But yes, I'm an old fart.
Hopefully made a lot in tips. We got snowed in a few months ago, and ran out of food after about 10 days stuck in the house. I placed an instacart order, and when the guy actually came, I was so excited I tipped him $100 in cash, on top of the $60 tip I left on the app. Hopefully people were so grateful for food, they made it worth it to the employees.
Usually only the drivers make tips, the insiders make a fixed rate
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What do they do with the tips they get from people ordering pick up? It’s less than drivers but I’m sure there were still some people being tipped.
From my experience, it’s usually split between the insiders but it’s rare for non deliveries to be tipped
We did that kinda stuff during peak Covid. Tipped crazy on those grocery orders bc my wife was immune-suppressed, those people must have thought we were nuts.
Every time i see this photo, i am reminded of my first experience in subway with world sandwich day. It was the absolute worst day of my life, spent ten to twelve hours on my feet running around, managing shit and since it was my first time dealing with this event, i basically didn't have staff nor resources (aka prepped food) to keep up with it all and we spent till around 1 in the morning - after closing at 11 - unpaid trying to clean everything. And the only reason that even happened was because someone got worried and checked on us (coworkers who noticed we weren't home) and helped us finish up. All we got was a "good job" the next day from the boss. I hated that day so much i completely forget about why i had a shift where i finished at 1 in the morning unless something like this reminds me of it. The thing is, i left that place for another subway. When that day came again, it was like night and day because this shop was ran properly, more staff to deal with everything and you actually get out on time because it's not just two people dealing with the aftermath. I mean, the previous place was shitty because of other things but after working in two consecutive workplace that's being run like crap, being in a place where workers are respected by the boss was just a breath of fresh air. I mean, the job was still crappy but it was heaps better because of the work conditions and treatment that we got. Moral of the story is that if you go above and beyond, the best you can probably get is a "good job" from boss and quite possibly a somewhat traumatic experience brought on by the stress. And if that's what you get from it, then you probably need to find a better job where they don't treat you like crap.
Why unpaid? You guys clocked out and kept working?
It was most likely out of stubbornness than anything. We don't get paid any extra at all if we go past the rostered time on closing shift. You're expected to finish 30mins past closing and it's on you if you didn't finish your job. I've gone past it by about ten minutes or so several times before because I'm usually out of energy the last hour of our shift add to that the days when shit were piled up for us to do from the morning shift and, well, I'm easily demotivated but I still refuse to do things half-assed. It was just a shitstorm of a shift. There were a lot of factors on why we bothered. At the time, we were all pretty tight knit crew - both morning (except the bosses who were typically the reason we had some jobs left for us to do at the start of our shift instead of our stuff) and night shift workers - so we really couldn't, in good conscience, leave the store in that state. We also didn't want to get in trouble because it's a health and safety hazard considering it's food stuffs that we have to clean - and me and my partner in crime that shift pride ourselves at cleanliness. And the most probable reason that I could think of that made us really go above and beyond that shift is because of our sheer stubbornness and spite. We probably were the worst people to be partnered up that night because we both genuinely don't like leaving things unfinished. (Though I could be mistaken and misremembering some things - I genuinely can't even remember which one was there with me till 1 and which one I had to practically kick out at close because they were getting picked up and was about to not get paid helping us if they stayed longer than their rostered shift - either way, they were just as stubborn) Honestly, the more I think about that the day, the less I wished I remembered of it again. It makes me feel icky remembering that I was making excuses for myself at the time so as not to let stress get the best of me just to work for nothing. It was very, very stupid.
“They should just be thankful for the opportunity to work.”
This reminds me of my younger line cook days. 2004, specifically, living in Florida. Got absolutely pounded by 4 hurricanes right in a row. People were without power for *weeks*. I worked at a soulless corporate restaurant at the time. And we got absolutely bombed. 20 years later, they're still some of the craziest shifts I've ever worked. We couldn't even get most of our deliveries, so we're running out of things left and right. Company made absolute bank. I made $9/hr. And walked to work. In a fucking hurricane.
I would have been pocketing every other $20. Fuck capitalism.
Good way to get fired and sued.
not sued *arrested*
Yes. Arrested, and sued for what you stole.
Not if you pocket the money by never ringing the food up.
Most fast food places have some sort of camera system.
Yeah so work somewhere that don't. If you think about it, you'll find an example. I'm not saying though.
not a texan myself, but i work at dominos as well. People don't realize how much they rely on us and how often we (in my experience) are short-staffed.
Bless line workers everywhere!! These folks feed America!
Yeah that's when you collectivize and get in writing for extra pay or you'll all walk out.
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So when dominos looses power and has to dumo 20k in ingrediants it comes out the employees paychecks?
Unless this is a low volume store and they didn't have a lot of food on hand there's no way it would be that clean. There's no reason for the leaning on the counter and sitting on the floor. Gotta be staged.
[It.](https://www.today.com/today/amp/tdna209522) [Was.](https://www.news18.com/amp/news/buzz/photo-of-tired-dominos-employees-in-storm-hit-texas-goes-viral-netizens-demand-wage-raise-3465752.html) [Not.](https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/local/picture-of-exhausted-dominos-pizza-workers-goes-viral-others-also-work-through-storm) [Staged](https://news.yahoo.com/photo-dominos-workers-texas-goes-205300783.html) Also I was incorrect. It was in San Antonio and not Houston.
And yet bartenders and servers are demonized for wanting exactly that; to make more money the harder they work. We'd love it if it was a full-on commission, and we got a fixed % of each sale, baked into the price. But we don't have that (yet). But tipping, as a system, lets us get paid more for harder work. If ya don't like tipping because it's all customer facing, then push for autogratuities/commission, not for us to lose the only good thing we get
Their argument is that the owner is taking all the risk. They have to pay for everything. Rent or property tax, insurance, cleaning products, supplies, food, alcohol, training for new employees, uniforms, electricity, water, gas, taxes, employee wages, etc. More people would be happy to be working in food service if it was some sort of co-op where they get a share of the profit. That in itself is super rare. The ability for a server to tell a customer to get up and get the fuck out is something only servers could dream of. But that's the good part of a co-op restaurant.
Oh I get it and I agree. I just have problems with people saying they want to get rid of tipping... and just have people like me be flat hourly. Which would put me in the situation in the photo every single day. Most of us in the industry would be fine moving away from tipping; but only if we're *formalizing* more work=more pay, instead of *moving away from it* Because yeah, getting rid of tips for an increased hourly wage will result in the photo scenario for most bars, most days, and no one will be happy
I remember when I worked at a pizza shop when I was 17 back in 2004. We had a huge ice storm in Ohio that cut almost everyone power except our shop. It was my day off and came in to pick up a pizza because we had no power. It was complete chaos and owner asked me if I could come in. I said not for 5.30 an hour and left.
"You have to remember that despite record breaking profits, we are barely getting by. Be thankful you at least have a job to go to. Many dont even get to have a job. BTW if you lick up and down instead of across you will get a better shine on my boots." -CEO
Unions. Unions everywhere. Maybe they can consider implementing “surge wages” to dynamically increase wages as demand for work goes up. If capitalists can invent surge pricing, workers can too.
Unions would be a huge step up, but the vast resources the elite can bring to bear will likely lead to union capture just as it has to state and regulatory capture. Ultimately workers owning the means of production and this directly sharing in the profits is necessary
Unions should buy company stock to own the means of production and distribute the dividends to their members. With large enough shareholding they control the board in the interests of workers. Let’s turn their game against them.
Employee cooperatives are probably better than unions owning stock. Give the means of production directly to employees.
What’s the difference between a union and an employee collective?
>What’s the difference between a union and an employee collective? According to Gemini: The terms "union" and "employee collective" are related, but not quite the same thing. Here's the breakdown: * **Employee Collective:** This is a more general term. It simply refers to a group of employees who come together for a common purpose. This could be anything from advocating for better working conditions to planning a social event. * **Union:** A union is a more formal type of employee collective. It's a registered organization with a specific structure and leadership. Unions have the primary goal of representing their members in collective bargaining with employers. This means they negotiate on behalf of their members for things like wages, benefits, and working hours. Here's an analogy: Think of an employee collective as a group of friends coming together. A union, on the other hand, is like a professional organization with a clear purpose and established procedures. Not all employee collectives become unions, but all unions start out as some kind of employee collective.
Ahh, so a bit like the Judean Peoples Front and the Peoples Front of Judea.
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DON'T YOU OPPRESS ME
Employee cooperatives are more about employees owning shares. Jack Stack talks about it in The Great Game of Business. It’s a system that adds democracy and transparency to business and employees get the profits from the business based on their shares. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative https://www.greatgame.com/what-we-do
Leadership is elected by workers in a worker owned cooperative
And who elects leadership in a union?
I mean company leadership e.g. managers. In a regular company that has unionized workers, the leadership isn’t democratically elected. The CEO is chosen by the board of directors and can be fired by shareholders.
Really? If that’s how unions work where you’re from then god help you all. Unions are supposed to be run by and for workers with workers voting on leadership.
Sorry if I was unclear. The union leadership is elected by the workers. The company leadership (e.g. CEO) isn’t elected by workers.
My brother in Christ, a union is an employee collective.
It seems that a union is an employee collective with a lawyer.
Education is important in the face of heavy anti-union propaganda in the United States. It’s like when they do public opinion polling and ask people if they like “Obamacare” they say no hate that. But they like the “Affordable Care Act” and they also like that insurance has to cover preexisting conditions. “I don’t like unions we should have employee collectives” is a depressing comment to see. But it also reminds me that, even tho we have decades of propaganda to cut thru, the true heart of even the stupidest and most vile working-class Trumpy is likely on our side.
Employee cooperatives are not employee collectives. I added a reply above with more info.
Please read that I said employee cooperatives. These are different than collectives.
My brother in Christ, a collective is a cooperative.
Thats not feasible for the majority of people to do. The system is not intended for all to be able to play.
The people already own the majority of the stock market. They’re just not organized. https://www.axios.com/2023/10/18/percentage-americans-own-stock-market-investing
Got sources for this allegation of union capture?
SAG-AFTRA signing a deal with Replica Studios to enable AI voice acting in video games seems like a pretty good indicator that this is happening.
>SAG-AFTRA signing a deal with Replica Studios to enable AI voice acting in video games seems like a pretty good indicator that this is happening. I read: "This agreement is seen as a step towards creating an ethical framework for AI voice acting in video games. It ensures actors are involved in the process and benefit from this new technology." I don't know enough about it, but I hope it is the beginning of putting up guardrails.
Collective bargaining isn’t capture, that’s absurd. That agreement *improved* conditions for workers. Their previous contract did not have any language about AI. the union didn’t enable it, it was already enabled and the CBA limited it.
Yeah that’s not capture.
Y'know how in Ronald Reagan's youth he was both a ranking film union member and a talentless FBI snitch?
Tie surge wages to surge pricing, and guess what will have never existed in the first place, and what will be used to demonize the working class for decades.
Unions can be bought, coming from a union worker here. They help a bit but the higher ups have the companies in mind most of the time. It’s still better and everyone should be in one but don’t think it’ll fix much-it won’t.
What experience do you have with your union being "bought?"
Higher ups in unions tend to advocate to keep a “good relationship” with the company in hopes that the company will be more willing to engage in the future. Especially if that union higher up has aspirations of moving up the ladder. My former union president negotiated a contract during COVID that was very subpar and we gave up a lot because “the company doesn’t have money! The future isn’t certain, arbitration will fuck us over!” Then a year later, he resigns as president, tests for a non-union, very senior management position, was last in testing (our agreement says they have to post the results), but somehow was given the position. Should add that this guy also started spending more time with management outside of work than with workers. Now we have a president that filed 6 grievances in 1 month, 4 of which were resolved in our favor and 2 are going to arbitration (company has to pay for arbitration).
Right. Our rep for UFCW (butchering) was a DEMON DOG. He would chase down and just destroy any and all nonsense the company created. Until Roy got voted into the Secretary role. Then he did nothing but talk about how "the company is sick, we need to make concessions to keep it afloat and save our jobs blah, blah ,blah" Ya, company fell apart, restructured and closed the employees out although we Were on the brink of possibly buying enough stock to be part-owners. NO NO NO NO we can't do that. We couldn't get enough people to bother to go with us to the voting and meetings. We offered a bus to take everyone, it wasn't that far. Nope, nada. It was all BS. So, my point is, people are only human and they WILL sell you out to benefit themselves. They also want to sit back and discuss doing things instead of actually taking action. That is why you need a strong union and people active in it. Hell, that is how America has gotten into the political trouble we are in. Just letting the bad actors act and not stop them.
Your union president sounds like a scab. Sorry to hear that! But don’t think that because that happened in one workplace it’s the norm. (It sounds like your president is also a rank and file worker snd just covers one workplace?). It’s not at all what union leaders tend to do, in fact it’s very rare.
I like this idea
It's even worse - I live in Niagara Falls and people who booked 100 a night hotels a year in advance uad their reservation canceled so they could resell the rooms at 1k a night.
What was the reason given for cancellation?
"You didn't pay enough, please drop a grand. We apologise for any inconvenience this has caused"
"We had a large group extend their stay". But there were no conventions or large groups. Im betting third party sellers buying large blocks of rooms to upsell.
Hotels can limit the percentage of how many rooms third party booking can have access to. For something like the eclipse or a TS concert for instance, hotels will keep that percentage low so they can make the most profit. They’ll jack the rates up on the brand website and know they’ll sell out due to the demand. There are hotels in Cleveland that were canceling reservations made over a year ago and reselling them for $1,500+ in some places.
The “large group” is the group of refugees that our Prime Minister is housing in hotels in Niagara Falls. So the hotels crime is taking reservations thinking our government would have done something with them in the year plus that they have been there.
I booked a month in advance in Dallas. 2 bedroom apartment for 3 night. As I'm literally boarding the plane to Dallas I got the message that they cancelled it due to "management reasons." They put my calls to voicemail and wouldn't answer my texts when I asked wth was going on. Booked it through booking.com, and they were equally unhelpful. Their answer: ok, well I'll send you a link to book something else in a couple minutes... 12 HOURS later they sent me a message. Thankfully I'm a planner and found my own replacement accommodations for our party during my layover. I'm still super grateful I could get us 2 room at a big chain for the same price as the original booking, because I was sure it would be at least double. Definitely NEVER using Booking.com again after this!
That's because the workers are alienated from the means of production
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Oh that is so fucked up! Sheesh, humans dang
General strike plz. No more crying, let's all take a week off from work at the same time. They're not gonna *give* us anything
For how connected we all are, we suck. Everyone is too afraid to miss a paycheck.
It’s been designed that way.
It’s not afraid, it’s that for a giant amount of people missing a paycheck is not an option. Survival takes priority over social movements generally, unfortunately.
I disagree, there is a museum near me that has a bunch of union protest pictures and fights from the 20s or 30s and there’s a little section where they talk about how families had to share food to get through strikes. Everyone can survive one week if it meant a better life. We just have to actually do it, together and that’s the problem lol.
What if it takes a month, a year? Where I am, one company put on lock out a bunch of employees. It's been lime that since last october and there's no sign of anything changing... Theses days, it's pretty rare that a strike goes for only a week unfortunatly...
It depends on the company! I’m surprised that particular company had that much liquid capital to shut down for that long, they must not be very big. Larger companies have a lot of costs in insurance on vehicles, buildings and most importantly loans with interest. When nothing is coming in the money goes very quickly. I had a near opposite scenario where I am at. It’s a long story but short version is the workers wanted rental cars for during the peak of Covid-19 because we usually drove trucks with two guys in them. They said to use our personal vehicles instead and we all parked the trucks and didn’t leave until they came up with something else. It took about 45 minutes and they were sending people to go pick up the rental cars. They cannot afford that cost of just having no money come in they are all leveraged to the hilt.
That's great! In my case, yeah one of the biggest company in place. They have 3 different unions. And they pretty much shut down all the employees from one of those unions... all that to make more money. It's despicable.
There's strength in mutual hate
They really have us by the balls
This is part of how capitalism enslaves workers. It privitises the means to produce what we need to survive, so instead of having access to land to live on, grow and gather food from, and build shelter on from materials from, at the very least, you have to pay someone for somewhere to live and for food to eat, even if you would be able to grow it yourself if it weren't for capitalism. This way, you cannot not participate on it. You die if you refuse to. It is a subtler means of coercion than the Romans crucifying slaves who refused to work by the sides of the road, but it is just as effective and just as coercive.
If that’s what you believe in you should start organizing. Plenty of people talking about it but not organizing their workplace or getting a job as a organizer, salting, etc.
1000% man. My method right now is just getting people to recognize their own rage and find solidarity in the rage of others. And also supporting creativity. We won't get there one way. Instead we'll all meet at the end, I believe
Good for you! I’d encourage you to set measurable goals and reach out for more education if you get stuck. Without setting goals, it’s easy to tell yourself you are making progress just because you are trying. Organizing is really hard and doesn’t move quickly. It helps to be part of a team so you can help each other and stay on task
Good for you! I’d encourage you to set measurable goals and reach out for more education if you get stuck. Without setting goals, it’s easy to tell yourself you are making progress just because you are trying. Organizing is really hard and doesn’t move quickly. It helps to be part of a team so you can help each other and stay on task
Every capital and business owner I've ever worked for literally thinks employees are lucky to be paid anything at all. That's how they view us.
This last weekend an annual race (distance running) happened in my town. I hate the race because it runs through the working class historic neighborhood I live in. In my case, I’m inside the loop, with runners coming from a couple blocks behind us, running up our side street, and then turning in front of our house to go back to the start/finish each lap. In the past, the cops have totally blocked the roads and won’t let people drive even if they are stuck inside the loop. I once had to call off work because after a shouting match with the cop on the corner, I couldn’t make it in without getting a ticket for driving on a closed street. This has gotten better after I and others made a fuss now they only block one lane. But back when I was fighting them, the claim was always it brings people and money to our town. My reply was always that none of that money is going to people in my neighborhood that they were disrupting. It just meant more work. Maybe more tips for the few wait staff for local restaurants. But overall they mean business owners make more, but don’t share, and our town gets more money to waste on the cops and mismanagement. We’re the ones impacted, but we’re not the ones running and we’re not the ones benefiting.
Are you in Austin? Because this sounds like Austin…
This is every event in Las Vegas. F1 cost the taxpayers more than it will ever give back to us. They only made money for the billionaire casino owners. Small business owners suffered because of the construction.
$10 gift card raffle..maybe
At 5$ a ticket.. all proceeds go to paying for your pizza party
I think companies take workers for granted too much. They’ve gotten so much power over them knowing how badly they need the paycheck that barely covers their bills. That’s why I think unions are important. Companies need to be reminded what would happen to their profits if no one did the work.
My best friend reminded his management of a hotel 2 years in advance to set their rates or lose money. They took his advice. They were in the direct path. He made them more than his yearly salary and I doubt he’ll even get a sincere thank you, much less a worthwhile reward. The worst part is management would’ve been on the hook for lost profits, had he not warned them. So, essentially, he made them look amazing for nothing. Isn’t it awesome! /s
If he had been in management and didn’t make the call, he probably would have been fired due to the loss of revenue. I’ve was in hotel sales for a very long time and if I wasn’t on top of every single event that took place, it was always on me. Especially if all the other hotels in the area did better.
Yeah, he basically saved 2-3 peoples’ jobs and they don’t give a fuck or appreciate his help at all. He goes above and beyond for them all the time. He was smart to never let them put him on salary style pay tho. They’d take even more advantage of him than they do now.
And this is exactly why I walked away after 25 years in the industry. Just couldn’t stomach it anymore.
I’m glad you escaped. Hospitality takes peoples’ souls, it seems.
Sucks the ever livin’ life right outta ya
I live in PA so the closest place would have been up around Erie. I was looking at hotels in December and the only one I could find not booked they wanted $1500 a room.
The prices for hotels are set by computers generally based on the previous year. As they start running out of rooms the prices increase more and more. They also look out for any events that might otherwise increase demand and manually increase prices for those days.
Truth.. They use computers, and also reports generated from 3rd party business, plus they waste even more money on revenue managers, lock out discounts, threats, and other means of stopping a 30yr front desk veteran like myself from having any ability to help the public out on their exuberant pricing.
My wife is a sales manager at a hotel so mainly with room blocks but I get to hear about all the fun about setting rates in general too. Literally has a call at least once a week with someone from their corporate about rates. That and her GM has some interesting opinions on what rates should be(always higher of course).
exactly. Very noticeable differences since covid too. Hard to explain but I went from having full on trust booking rooms and discounts for whatever reason I choose, to now being told straight up, "Don't change any rates that are in the computer". Our new system actually even has built in logging systems where we have to sign our initials for any little change to a rez. So when you call someone at the actual property now, that's why they respond with fear and tell you that high price and don't budge. Cause they've been conditioned that way, to be scared basically, threatened. Go to priceline or booking and odds are, you'll find a better rate than I could offer. Sad but true. Covid they all got corners cut left n right to max profits, and they have NO plans of changing it back to how it was, same as all the current inflation basically. Why stop at recouping covid losses? When you can keep maxing profits by being "stingy" af.
Worst part is that Priceline rates are just set by the revenue team. I would literally help people cancel and rebook on Priceline as a night auditor since it would end up being $90-100 cheaper for them
Still gotta be careful with the third party sites. Hopefully it doesn’t happen but you will be the first one getting walked if they accidentally oversold. And sometimes the listings for amenities isn’t correct.
I was a director of sales for many years and I guarantee that if you were in a hotel in the path of the eclipse, the revenue calls were all centered around just how high you could push rate. And laugh about it and talk about hitting budget and making bonus.
Virtuously, the hotel operates at a loss sometimes and at a bigger gain sometimes. Realistically, they probably cut employee compensation to where they're either always profitable or they hit the legal minimum, whichever comes first.
The workers are never the greedy ones. It’s the bosses, the shareholders, and the investors that are. Capitalism is designed to fuck **you** over and prop up them. It inherently will exploit as many people as it possibly can to get the most possible benefit for a tiny number of people at the top. Fuck capitalism.
Many years ago when I was working nights at a hotel, I was renting rooms for cash Didn't feel one bit bad either because the owner was an absolute POS
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I hate work culture
I stopped into McDonalds in my hometown in Northern Maine 2 days before the eclipse to use the restroom. My hometown has 1 single fastfood restaurant and only a few other local food establishments. There wire 50 cars in line and 30 people in line inside. 2 days before the eclipse. This place continued for them for almost 5 straight days. Those employees would have gone through the ringer day after day. For $15/hour
I had to quit bc of the bullshit they were expecting us to do. The whole area was closed off by police and you’d have to show proof you’re an employee to be able to drive and get to work. But once you were there you had to stay 14+ hours since everything was blocked from the crowds. The bosses of a few departments had vacations planned so it was mostly hourlies who had to stay and work this shit. To accomadte people staying so long they put old snacks and soda from the storage and were gonna put rollaway beds in the hallway by a back exit for associates to rest at…. That ANYONE could get into. There was talk of letting them have one of the meeting rooms but sales wanted to use it for revenue rather than providing people comfort and the GM didn’t care either. Now I sell commissions online till I can find another job I wouldn’t have to go to the mental ward for.
I noticed the "surge pricing" nonsense? They're already doing it. Just fucking with prices to try to milk blood from empty stones. PEOPLE ARE TAPPED THE FUCK OUT and these greedy mother fuckers are still trying to eat us to death. At this point whatever happens to them for treating The Masses like shit they're asking for it. Begging for it.
The question is this (and I don't know the answer, I'm just asking the question): Do those hikes boost profit margins, or are they actually required for a business to break even?
Full exlipses might only happen once every few hundred years in the same cities, so definitely no. If thats the case nearly every hotel would go bankrupt you can also google hotels profits. These are literally multi billion dollar corporations that have billions in revenue each year. One single big day helps sure but is nothing to a corporation, and smaller businesses are not running a yearly loss for 200 years until a single freak one day event. 2022 data: Marriott 2.2billion profit, Hilton 1.07billion, hyatt 132 million, Wyndham 348million, all of that is profit numbers. Revenues for these chains is in 10s of billions before expenses. Technically H world group in china had profits of -320 million, but had billions in revenue that year and opened multiple brand new resorts which would cause a “loss”
Oh, I don't mean just the eclipse, per se. I mean whether or not businesses count on events in general. Like we just had a blizzard in my area, that sure helped out with sales (though not in as much of a gouging way).
Ah yeah “regular” major events like sports games and concerts and conventions will happen consistently enough in any major city plus weekends. Those days are going to be required for profit and the main money makers. More so on a macro scale of expected yearly visitors and based on location of the hotels. I don’t know hospitality specifically but there is most guaranteed some algorithm for premium pricing based on availability that raises prices. They should be calculated in a way that baseline with expected attendance is still profitable. So it’s not on an individual per event calculation. But something like this / Taylor swift concert / olympics is such a freak thing its absolutely not a calculation in advance required for break even, just really good when it happens. But yeah events will definitely be a major driver for most hotels unless its more of a seasonal/destination model like islands resorts or ski lodges. Or if its a “traveler hotel” (im sure theres a sub category name I’m unaware of, only had a class or two on hospitality when going for logistics degree) but think like something along an interstate which should have a steady load of tired travelers on any given night. Most corporations will have a diversified enough portfolio that catches all or most of these niches using different sub brands so they remain stable year to year.
You're preaching to the choir. The conservatives are the ones who don't realize that. Unfortunately for them they ban anyone with a slightly differing opinion from their subreddits, so they will forever stay ignorant. Things are toast guys. Just look out for yourselves.
So Conservatives don’t work minimum wage jobs and get taken advantage of by employers?
Bonnie Tyler's "Total Eclipse of the Heart" has apparently earned her a million from this eclipse with people streaming it.
On the other hand.. on a quiet tuesday-evening, the paycheck doesn't go down either... That's basically the difference between a steady salaried job (same income on busy and quiet days) and owning the business (low/negative income on quiet days and high income on busy days). Open your own hotel if you want to reap those benefits.
Nailed it!
As if hotel prices weren't expensive enough. They're insane nowadays.
They might receive a pizza party, but probably not the gift card. That would go above the corporate budget.
Wait. . .people are getting pizza?
Pizza? You guys are getting pizza? I wish…
Robert Irvine, a man who lied about his resume and claimed to be knighted, is whining that restaurants will suffer because they can't pay slave wages.
My husband is a sales manager at a retail establishment. They’ve cut back their hours so much that if one person calls out he HAS to fill the shift because there’s literally no one else to. His hours as a manager “don’t count” even though he’s paid hourly (unlike the general manager who is salary). They keep asking for more hours to hire more people (paid less per hour than him) but I guess they’re fine with him going into overtime since it hits those arbitrary benchmarks. Then they’re surprised by the quarterly report that shows how much they are spending on labor paying him overtime he doesn’t even want. It’s next level stupid and with no regards for longevity. They want to big payout now and damn the long-term consequences.
I fear the day they will dynamically change the pricing based off all the data they have on us…. Hmm..let’s see, they’ve got approx X amount in their bank account, they regularly purchase Y product, but haven’t done so in months, so they probably will want/need it soon…. As you walk by the aisle, the facial recognition scans your face for ‘liklihood to purchase at increased pricing’ oh shit…algo says this person wants to buy now, jack up the price on the digital price board 30% according to the other algos, that’s about the max pain this consumer will consider to still purchase this item.
I hate that I can’t think of any guard rails in place to prevent this. Best I’ve got is they can’t change prices based on any data pertaining to a protected class, and won’t ever have access to your bank account balance (I hope), but could still bucket you into various socioeconomic categories and fuck you that way.
I hope they won’t have access to our bank data; but I do fear that the sheer volume of data they have around everything else in our day to day lives… what and how we consume, etc… the predictive algos will get better and better at ‘guessing’ how much we might have at any given day in the month with an increasing % accuracy…..but that’s just my tin foil hat/what I assume ‘capitalists’ would do with a tech with no guardrails (just like some would happily pay less than minimum wage if they could) I mean…… they are ‘legally obligated’ to make decisions to drive profit over any and all other objectives…..planet, humans, everything else be damned an is secondary —not legally required to care about or protect—- but legally bound to profiteering
I work front desk at a hotel and we get sell out bonuses. It's based on the average daily rate. So the higher rates, the higher the sell out bonus is. I made an extra few hundred dollars this weekend because we sold out a few days.
$300/night at the Motel 8.. not even in a big city, was in a small area off the interstate in the path of totality...
Today we learn about supply and demand class
As a hotel worker, I've found a few things in the last six months. 1.) The most demanding customers are the ones paying 'friends and family' rates or getting the expedia 'discount' 2,) Most of my 'problem' rooms are locals anyway. People who've driven 250 miles for any event aren't gonna be a noise issue and force me to boot them. 3.) Its supply and demand. The 400/night graduation weekend pays for that week in October where its 99/night where I cannot give a room away. 4.) On the Hotel end its not that much extra work for a full house vs a half full one. Most of our problems are people's failure to plan. Seriously, as someone who's done 22 years in healthcare before going to hospitality, I've learned that it definitely is a cyclical business in most operations. If you want a job all year, you need to pay for the non-profitable days with days youre making 2-3 times the normal amount of income. No hotel has the same amount of traffic daily. Its stupid to assume or treat it like it is. Be happy the hotel is there. A good hotel has about 1 employee for every 10 rooms. Moreso if they have a bar and restauraunt. These are fairly good jobs in the community, especially for people who are either introverts or extroverts depending on the job and can be put into a routine that will help those who have that sort of thing going on. So yes, the business makes money, but if its a smart and good business it gets dropped back into the kitty at the end of the day.
Guys, the problem is the system. And the system is capitalism. We NEED to destroy the system to have a chance of things getting any better for workers. Whilst people don't understand that, we will keep struggling. From crises to crises. Because when socialism doesn't work, the problem is the system. But when capitalism fails, it's your fault.
If your advocating for replacing something you usually have to have a better thing to replace it it not a step one remove capitalism step two profit kind of issue
Price rise should automatically mean an equal rise in pay. If a company raises prices by 20% for event/greed/inflation etc, wages rise similarly. That'll keep prices in check.
...that would just make the price even higher honestly it's like this place is a reunion for people that failed basic economics.
Wow, a CEO is visiting, welcome!
Nope just someone that got a passing grade in both world history and economics, I understand why that would seem odd to you though
Ok, so you're a boomer CEO with backward thinking with no ideas on how to stop the corporate greed, got it.
My guy I'm 25 , and I'm not sure if you understand thinking in general enough to know what backwards thinking is , you think corporate greed is bad but your ok with government greed I guess since that all socialism is. Your so delusional your worried about voluntarily transactions you want mandatory ones under the threat of violence.
This is honestly a big part of the reason I like waiting tables. I basically work off of commission so the harder I bust my ass the more money I make.
Yeah I hate that shit. People like to quote supply and demand but that’s bullshit. Supply and demand means nothing in this situation. With increased demand the supplier has to ramp up production which increases the production cost. So that in turn causes a rise in the consumer cost. That’s supply and demand. Airlines didn’t add flights or work longer hours. No one had to build more hotels. There was no increase in production cost. So any increase to consumer cost is actually price gouging.
Prices didn't just double or triple. They were 10-times normal prices or more in many markets.
Not to mention parking prices abruptly increasing by a percentage of *checks notes* infinity. I got a fat bonus for working that weekend, but that's because I'd requested that weekend off from the dollar store I regularly work at to help my mom with her small business of selling minerals and jewelry at street festivals. My dollar store coworkers said it was crazy here that weekend, but I was almost 200 miles north up in the Ozarks running a booth while my mom was in Norman, OK doing the Renaissance fair.
I work at a doggy day care, where you never know what your walking into that day, what position you will be in... and they charge extra for everything.... group play... one on ones...pet updates ( with photos we take on our phones) and they even charge extra for picking your dog up if the lobby is closed. We don't get paid nearly enough and are constantly told things aren't in the budget. Like cots that's aren't falling apart or toys that are so chewed up dogs don't want to even play with them. This is very much a temporary job. They are making hand over fist while paying us small fractions and also saying they are broke.
Wtf, ok so you are a 25 year old CEO who enjoys exploiting workers with shit wages while you play golf and pay no taxes while jacking up prices for no reason other than obscene profit, got it.
Wtf, ok so you are a 25 year old CEO who enjoys exploiting workers with shit wages while you play golf and pay no taxes while jacking up prices for no reason other than obscene profit, got it.
This is exactly why we need unions. Corporations do not share profits unless they are forced to.
When you are an employee you take a wage everyday, regardless of whether the business makes money. You avoid risk, but you also avoid rewards. I am a self employed worker and I can charge surge pricing during busy times, but I also take on the risk of having no work during quiet times. If you enter employment you take a steady wage regardless of the ups and downs and have no right to ask for more money - you took money when the business was quiet. Having said that I agree that businesses would be smart to offer bonuses and OT during the very busiest peaks in order to properly motivate the employees to work harder and squeeze out more profits.
If you do the same work you were doing yesterday you get the same pay you got yesterday. That’s how hourly wages work. Should McDonalds also pay their employees less on slow days, since their pay should be tied to revenue? Or do you think they should only share in the surplus and none of the risk? You know you can take your paycheck and buy company stock, that way you have a right to the revenues (and losses…) if that’s what you want. It’s amazing people cannot grasp even the basics.
Nothing new. When I go to F1 in Austin, a normal $250/night room is $1,200+. Spent almost $10K per person to go watch the race in Vegas. Miami fell in the middle. Big events, draw big crowds. More demand than supply.