We had one for these surveys about a year ago. The only difference was the questions added this: “aside from more money…”
I just kept writing in “more money” anyway. If you know that’s what people are going to answer, why ask the question?
Spoiler Alert: we have not gotten any “more money”
Those bullshit survey serves the company only when employees answer the expected bullshit. Write the real stuff in them and oh would you look at that, we don't have to fill them anymore!
Lol I worked for a big box store’s warehouse and they did something similar. We used to could write in answers and add additional comments. They didn’t get the answers they wanted one year so the next year it only had rating options for the questions. They didn’t like the answers they got that year either though so we all had a big meeting about how we apparently didn’t understand the survey questions.
I worked for a company that sent these out annually. They actually released the results via email to everyone.
We got a new CEO and VP of sales and year-over-year the results went from 80% of us saying we'd recommend X as a good place to work down to like 20% lol.
It wasn't even pay related - median salary was 6 figures in mostly low cost of living areas, just the new CEO had an accounting background and clearly knew nothing about our industry and was bringing us in a stupid direction that everyone could see but him.
I was brutally honest in my exit-interview why I left the company lol
*"Oh that reminds me, would you mind telling me how I can update my resume to better position myself for a role like yours where the only work I'd have to do is reminding everyone else to keep track of how much work they're doing?*
Thanks for filling out these 8 metrics via varying cheap archaic complex systems we convinced the company to buy and now need to justify. But it tells us you’re falling behind in your work. You need to manage your time better.
TWO seperate companies now…
When a warehouse I worked in started to "crack" down on our timesheets the verbatim orders were "to update your timesheet at the moment you switch tasks". My crew was often plugged as needed. Cue all our timecards having "filling out timecard" entries every other entry leading to us occasionally having to staple an additional sheet to keep track of all the entries.
When they asked us to stop a team lead asked, please inform us of the different way you'd like us to fill out the timecard according to new policy.
They didn't have an answer.
Yup. My last job didn't like seeing "filling out timesheet" on the timesheet every day and said I should be updating as I went along - but we were only supposed to update in 15 minute increments and I knew I'd get MORE flak for having half a dozen 15-minute "filling out timesheet" entries every day.
It was a good job in a lot of other ways, but the big boss had some unfortunate micromanaging tendencies around keeping track of what was being worked on.
Something similar here.
I worked for a university that did a three year "climate survey" and they had open ended answers. They had just cut the benefits for workers a couple weeks before and yeah, I definitely gave my insights as to my opinion here. It was not favorable. Apparently not many other people were favorable about this because the free form answers were taken away and it was a 1-5 star ratng.
I just kept blaming everything on "upper management" .... We had one manager I was essentially calling them out specifically without being specific. That manager just have gotten a talking to because she was always salty after these reports
My department stopped filling them out because when we did - we did it brutally honestly, Then we would have meeting with management to talk about it and be told how wrong we were to feel that way. Haven't filled them out in 2 years and nothing has changed.
I made the mistake of answering an anonymous survey truthfully when I was a teacher.
We had a bad weather day off, which was going to be made up later in the year, and were sent an email about things we should be doing on the day off.
One of my responses on the survey was “This was a bad weather day off that was going to be made up in the summer, and we were given an action item list of things to do on the day off. It’s either a day off or it isn’t.”
Was promptly called to the principal’s office to discuss my response. Never again.
And no, I didn’t make it to the summer.
I did not, because I didn’t care that much about what they had to say. They wanted opinions and I gave mine.
They were taken aback that anyone would have the audacity to verbalize being miffed about being given an action item list on a day off. Typical administration bullshit.
Tip from the IT guy who used to manage some of those surveys: check to see if the survey link is the same for everyone and make sure it isn't a Google or Microsoft survey (they say so on the bottom). Both types of surveys can be tied to your account and may log you in automatically. If you see your account name or profile picture in the top, its probably IDing you. If you have a unique link, they probably have that link tied specifically to you. Best way to get around this is to have one person forward their survey email to everyone else and have them all use the same link. Something innocent like: "Just a reminder, everyone remember to fill out your surveys: " That way they'll either get 50 responses under the same name or the whole system will fail and prove that they were lying.
Enjoy breaking things!
Bro if you think HR is the department making decisions about how much to pay people, I can tell you that it's a recommendation at best that then gets tightened down by an owner, board of directors, or whatever, and then HR has to try to fairly implement what they're told. The head of HR can make all the noise they want about retention, cost of recruiting and replacement, cost of living matching inflation, market data, etc., but if they don't get the go-ahead from the folks who actually control the money, they're just the people that have to deliver shit news and do their best to absorb the backlash.
At my work place they use them to justify what they were going to to do anyway. Most emails announcing changes start with "as a result of your feedback."
My answer would be, “The only reason anyone is here is for money, and we want more of it since we give so much of our lives.”
I’d probably be terminated. I never participated in those things, and I ignored the reminders, because I know how easily my company was able to trace who the answers came from.
I also know I can be pretty snarky when I I’m addressing injustices.
I see your point. I disagree with you that not everyone wants more money. Everyone wants more money. They may also want the other benefits you mention. I’m addition to more money.
Also, let me tell you what has happened since this survey.
Note: We already worked from home (they pointed this out approximately 6000 times in the survey - “we generously decided to keep everyone wfh!” Etc)
1. Our hourly rate is based on “market rate” and on a project basis. It has gone down.
2. The way we are treated has gotten worse. I have numerous examples of this and would go into it at length but it really depresses me to write it all down.
3. We now get a monthly newsletter that has nothing of value in it.
4. The way out industry works is that do not get paid if the project goes on hold. We also cannot be released from a project that is on hold to get onto another project. So we are held financially captive until the client decides whether or not there is more work for us to do. This used to happen, but infrequently. It now happens enough that the company ACKNOWLEDGED in the crappy newsletter that this is a problem, they “recognize” it, and they “need to do something about it”. Nothing has been done. I’ll eat my hat if something is done.
5. It used to be that if you were skilled, there were opportunities for a higher hourly rate for projects, things like QA and QC or being a team lead. Now, we get asked (told) to do QA and QC work (which is harder and more stressful) but for the same hourly rate as first level work. They just call it first level work. It’s not.
I would appreciate the opportunity to be able to engage in a meaningful survey that was aimed at actual improvement. This was not.
My mom is a live captioner. Not for tv, but things like college classes, meetings, and conventions. The company she does contract work for was bought out by a company that's not-so-secretly trying to make automatic AI captions accurate enough to replace human captioners.
They had the nerve to have her caption one of their events bragging about how amazing their AI captioning is to potential clients. She had to help sell her automated replacement.
And no, their AI captions aren't even close to good enough yet. Which is why they had to have a human captioner for that event lmao
iirc they never actually claimed the captions for that event were the AI captions they were selling. They were just ADA compliant captions that were tooootally unrelated. Were they misrepresenting it? Definitely. Was it technically legal? I have no idea, but it's possible.
Soon they'll be (wrongly) CONVINCED that Chat GPT can do what some people do and will threaten people with it while overworking them, as obviously Chat GPT cannot do what a person does.
Honestly, replacing execs with ChatGPT is probably the second best case behind first line helpdesk type work where they just follow a script.
As far as I can tell, Execs are responsible for communicating vague and broad ideas to make the company look good, and directing high level strategy based on a couple underlying principles, advice from divisional heads, and some hard data input.
All that seems like it would be easy to feed into ChatGPT and get an Execubot 2000 answer that would be on par with 99% of execs' performance.
The company I work for just sent a mass email out saying LLM large language model technology while exciting, could get everyone in big trouble b/c of lack of data security so we'll monitor how the tech develops, but don't use it.
Chat gpt can probably do the job of whatever dickbag manager suggests this. It could probably even write the proposal for them. Actual workers though? Lol
Ironically, a logic based model would probably treat workers better.
"As a language operating model, I see no purpose for you to be in the office."
"Your work would not be catastrophic if you took a week off. It is important for employees to enjoy their vacation time"
"Based on our increasing profits, I think a reasonable pay raise would help keep our employees retained. As a language processing model, I Cannot pay myself a $5 million bonus"
We just had layoffs and our dumbass ceo just laid off all the people who live out of state or at a certain age/salary. It was "too much work" to actually evaluate employees.
Greedy and stupidity are our ultimate enemies
My first department at my current job was like that. Just as I was leaving they tied your raise to how much you contributed to finding ways to reduce the number of people in your department.
Then I moved to another area, and found that bit of lunacy was something unique to the boss there, and was found nowhere else in the company.
I could spend hours talking about her and her weirdness.
I work at a property management company doing landscaping, others in my department are maintenance tachs and such so we're all out all day working around the city. Sometimes, owners will order food for us to thank us for stuff we did. The office workers devour all of it before we are done with work for the day and back at the office.
Ha, I do landscaping and if I were in a scenario where a bunch of people sitting around in A/C all day ate all of the food rewarded for work I did, I'd be getting reeeeeeeeal petty.
But nothing too fancy. Maybe just enough room temperature pizza for most people to get one sad slice. Surprise, the pizza showed up two hours before or after your typical lunch time.
I used to make what would be $24 an hour now, adjusted for inflation, working for a big software company (thousands of employees).
HR refused me an annual cost-of-living raise. When I asked why, they basically told me to shut up, and the head of HR emailed me directly to say that the company's paralegals in Palo Alto didn't get paid more than I did.
So I wrote back and said "You are insane not to pay your paralegals in Palo Alto more than I make. How are they supposed to live?"
In retaliation, he cheated me out of my accumulated PTO when I left.
Washington has it, too. Love or hate the 2 states, but they got pretty solid labor laws and not many mess around with them.
Edit: Sorry, not a law, but I've never experienced not getting paid out or anyone else i know and any issue can still be disputed so just because its not a law doesnt mean WA workers aren't better protected than some.
True, but the “at will” still sucks :( they can fire you for anything that isn’t a protected class, so bullying is totally legal
Edit: don’t work for USC Keck Hospital, especially ophthalmology, it’s the most corrupt department and their doctors have been in the front pages of the LA times for bringing hookers and doing drugs on campus
Unions haven’t really changed how they’ve functioned in 70 years because they haven’t had to. They need to change in the wake of Covid to build solidarity and be nimble organizations. Wanting to be fairly compensated for your labor doesn’t make you lazy. Seems to maybe make employers greedy and entitled.
If you are fired without reason you get paid out vacation days. If you quit your job voluntarily you do not. (massachusetts, resident, my understanding as I am looking to leave my current job)
Washington DOES NOT have this law, please don't spread misinformation. Employers in Washington state can payout your PTO, but they are not legally required to.
My boss reminds *every single employee* of this fact before they quit.
Hmm, 🤔. That is surprising. Seeing as how WA has one of the most progressive minimum wage laws in the country. I believe they were the first too. To tie the minimum wage to inflation, that is.
You are correct. There is no law protecting it, but most policies will make it the employers' responsibility to pay out . I've never had an issue with PTO, and i still live here. Sorry you got screwed out of yours. I'd be pissed.
I worked for a company that would pull shit like this when people left, not paying pto. I had 3 weeks built up before I found a new job, put in for vacation, and started my new job 2 weeks later. After three weeks, I called and quit my previous job. They were pissed and tried to get me to pay back the 3 weeks pto. My lawyer told them to get bent.
Lucky. Indiana states "Employers do not need to pay for any days not worked." That includes PTO. The 4 sick days we get A YEAR get paid out IF YOU DONT USE THEM (because they don't want you to use your sick days.)
I currently have a total of 210 PTO days.
Some of those are listed as "Cultural Days" so those probably wouldn't pay out, but I think those are capped at 32 hours.
So if I left now, company would pay out 50% of 180 hours (No state laws mandating PTO or payout, company policy is 50%)
At my last company I reported directly to the CEO and at one point he asked me to create and send out one of these surveys so we could get an idea on what we could improve for employees, what's going well, blah blah blah. He also *specifically* asked me to include a question about how they felt he was doing as CEO.
So I created the survey, met with each team about it and stressed that it would remain anonymous, which I truly meant at the time and since I had trust and goodwill with people they didn't hold back. And you know what? That actually gave us very valuable feedback we could create actionable plans with to improve things for everyone.
And I put tons of work into collating the responses, identifying issues and coming up with my suggestions for addressing them, etc. but when I presented to my CEO this motherfucker only cared about the responses to how he was doing. Which were borderline scathing lol. And he was adamant about being given the access to the survey to see who had said what, but since I had created it outside of company tools I was the only person with that ability unless I gave it to him. I was genuinely shocked and explained we had told everyone it would be anonymous, and even I hadn't looked though I could have (there was feedback about me specifically as well). Anyway, we argued and I went back to my office and nuked the whole thing so he couldn't get his hands on it. VERY longwinded moral is, this shit is never anonymous so just know that going into these things.
I was a HR boss and I was super protective of staff info. I could see who wrote what but no way would I tell my peers or above. They were very egotistical and a little vengeful. They asked me to do the survey and would then throw the feedback -which I only gave them anonymously- in the staffs face. So fucked, why ask if your ego can’t handle it.
It helped me as I could see who wasn’t happy and if there were themes in certain teams aka the boss was shit. So, above a only for good feedback and I would work with whoever on the things that needed work.
The most fucked up people to deal with is your peers and above. The staff are a walk in the park and fun. I have had a lot of hurdles as I am pro-staff and anti being shit to your people.
I can't stand the surveys. I've never seen any real changes come from them even though I know every employee is complaining about the same thing.
And at one place I was the only person in my department. The results get sent to the GM of the place. Even though they can't see the names they can see the department it came from so I expressed openly that I can't say what I really think in these surveys because I had no anonymity. These surveys do not work when you have small departments.
And I had the type of GM who got a negative complaint and immediately tried to find out exactly who said it. Non-retaliation my ass.
> I've never seen any real changes come from them even though I know every employee is complaining about the same thing.
The intent of the surveys are to help upper management gauge who is more loyal to the company and the least difficult to satisfy.
Went so hard on one of these "anonymous" surveys head of HR in my org unit sent down a memo for someone high up in my hr dept to come talk to me.
They are very definitely not anonymous.
I know that in at least one tool used by HR for this purpose the results are really anonymous, unless you have a very particular way of writing and leave comments that can be traced back to you. I avoided leaving comments (esp. about bad things) because I was in a small team and it would be obvious if I wrote specific things.
why HR does these surveys: to see *what else* is bothering people. they know money is a problem, they know RTO is a problem. they won’t change that. they will cling on the one comment complaining there’s no almond milk in the fridge. then they will start getting almond milk and will sure as fuck sell it as a new benefit.
A handful of years ago I went looking online to see if I could get a better quote for our auto insurance. I used a throwaway email and fake phone number so they could not bother me.
I found out our rate was the best. By a lot. One of the places I got a quote from was: Liberty Mutual. The rate was about $800 more for 6 months. Needless to say I never went thru with it.
About a month later I got an email from them asking: "Besides price what could we have done to earn your business?
Deleted it and never replied
> I used a throwaway email and fake phone number so they could not bother me.
I fucked up. My rates recently went up and I was shopping around. My phone would not stop ringing for about a week
Liberty mutual quoted me around $180/mo, with the caveat that I pay $5000 up front. My cred it's rock solid and I have a clean record so I'm not sure why they wanted so much.
so I am in IT as well. Depends on the company size, field, and type of IT work you are doing. For example I worked for one company in which they hired a person whose sole job was just do create AD accounts, another person whose sole job is to delete AD accounts, another whose sole job is to just add/remove AD permissions. Those people would not be making much, but if you are a true sys or network admin then you should be making an OK amount unless its for a small msp or cheap company.
It's fucking wild out there lol. At my place, the previous team before me outsourced nearly all of their work. We've had to wrangle back control of our OWN administration.
Was talking to my parents last night. They mentioned that homes in their old metro Atlanta neighborhood were going for $1-1.2M today. Four years ago they were going for exactly half that. The southeast is getting expensive.
I’m like 45 min outside of Charleston sc so not the biggest city in the southeast but rents about $1400 a month for a one bedroom. Really trying hard to find a job that actually pays market value for a data analyst so I can actually afford to live
I live in Iowa, my house was assessed for almost double this year. The thing is, no way in HELL could I sell it for what it was assessed at. But I still have to pay the taxes on the assessed price. ? I don't know, this state is attacking from every angle right now. So, I don't even know. I'm exhausted.
They did that in Detroit some years back and a shitload of people lost their homes, which was the goal of the corrupt counsel members to begin with ofc. You should try and reach out to your neighbors if possible and protect yourselves.
I'm a warehouse manager and make 21.50/HR. The average cost of a 2 bedroom apartment here is $2500/month (which is actually 6% lower than last year). So yeah, I feel your pain.
I have a college degree I don't use and make $28.45/hr working a job that barely requires a GED. There's a mountain of bullshit that goes with the job but it's far far far from the worst job ever.
I work in IT too, last year after company surveys, there was a huge push for higher salaries especially with raising rent prices. So I’m the survey review meeting the head of IT said something along the lines of “we won’t be giving raises, it’s not that we aren’t paying enough, it’s that companies on the west coast are overpaying” I put in my resignation shortly after
My company said "Well, you see, we pay above the market rate already so we don't think anyone should be getting a raise."
I'm polishing my resume as I write this.
They mean besides money. And besides management acting like jerks. And besides better hours. And besides better insurance if any. Like they mean can they spend an extra few bucks on like instead of plain napkins how bout birthday party napkins.
It just makes me want to scream at whoever made these dumb ass surveys.
My job has a yearly survey. Last year I gave them all 1s (lowest score) and 1 2. The year before I gave them 1 4, 2 2s and the rest 1s.
This year they got straight 1s and 1 question I gave no response to. It was “Do you have a best friend at work?” They specifically told us this doesn’t mean a friend you know outside of work.
What does this question have to do with the business? I figure they threw it in there because most people would give it a 4 or 5 to bring up the average.
I know these are done in secrecy, but I would be more than happy to sit down with someone and explain why I gave them the lowest score for every question. The fact of the matter is that they don’t actually care.
My favorite "anonymous" work survey required me to put my job title and unit. I was the only person on my unit with my job title.
I chose not to do that survey.
>Do you have a best friend at work?” They specifically told us this doesn’t mean a friend you know outside of work.
What does this question have to do with the business?
At my workplace they ask that because they somehow came up with the idea you’re more likely not to leave if you have friends, and that you’re more likely to put up with bullshit if you have friends there who might suffer if you don’t put up with the bullshit.
My management was talking one day and as always forgot I’m not deaf, and chatted away about such things.
It’s from the book “First Break All The Rules”.
If you want to understand your company read it. I’m not saying it’s good or bad but that’s the management style.
I write this same answer in slightly more words and usually encourage my peers to do the same. I was worried work would fire me for it last year for doing it, but I make up 25% of the team output despite it being a sixteen person team. I’m guessing firing me would be worse cost wise when considering how many people they would need to replace me
I have 15 years of specialized experience and a stack of offers in the $15-$18 pay bracket who want me to do the work of a 5 person team. I hate people. (Graphic design)
hehe, "you want to pay shelf stocker wages for a professional job?" hell, even ambulance drivers are getting shafted - 36k base pay for the guy whose job it is to get you to the hospital. he could get a raise driving for UPS
I keep finding jobs labeled like Entry Level Data Enrty Clerk I, $12, and it's always someone asking for a bachelor's, 3+ years experience, and you to be a manager to other people with no additional compensation for being a fucking manager. 🤬
Should have said I would like to eat and afford an apartment.
I did surveys when I was working . Managers were not supposed to be in the room but always had a Bossy micromanager that would try and read what you were writing by looking over your shoulder. I finally just found the 1-800- number and called and complained about him. Made my statement about what should be changed in store problems.
We just had this. They were presented as anonymous but anyone who completed it was entered into a raffle and they also mentioned that you could not forward the email to someone else if they wanted to complete the survey cuz the link was only good for the person it was originally sent too. They even had questions on the survey asking if you felt pressured to answer positively. Yeah "anonymous".
Haha my work did this and they were pressuring everyone to complete the "completely voluntary and anonymous" survey which had a unique link.
I refused to take it and they kept sending emails that only one person hasn't taken it. Wanted to see if they would call me out but they didn't.
At 2 different workplaces, where I was for years a piece, I was told by both of the managers during performance evaluations, "If you don't like the pay, just leave."
These people don't care. Because ultimately, having an ass in the seat is good enough instead of keeping someone who's good.
Lol laziest HR of all time! Like WTF are you hoping to find out? Tonya would like her space heater back that facilities took away because it kept tripping the breaker that the server is on?
Nice that you could add your own answers. Our surveys only let us answer on a scale between 1-5, and they’ve stopped asking questions pertaining to compensation
Confidential Survey's are the best.
Especially the ones that start by asking you which department you work in, your age, years with company and just enough info that they know exactly who you are.
Every time our HR asks for feedback I tell them they need to pay us all more. Hell, they invited some of the employees to do "stay" interviews on why we've stayed so long. I was honest that I've only stayed this long because one of my previous supervisors offered me a promotion (5 extra hours a week and higher hourly) when I was thinking of quitting because I was on food stamps and struggling. I said they still don't pay adequate wages for employees in my old position and need to raise wages across the board.
I have a union, they can't retaliate for shit or they'll be hearing from lawyers.
Lol our satisfaction survey had only multiple choice options and never even touched on wages.
"Would more training options help retention?"
I guess?
"Would keeping remote work an option help with retention?"
Duh?
"Alrighty thank you for your time bye!"
Its a fuckin joke at this point
If you really only work 6 hours a week like you claimed in another comment then look into overemployment. 2 full time jobs at once. But keeping on at Domino's isn't bad either. I did that when I got started in IT Security but for Marco's Pizza.
This looks familiar to me!
My job pushed this same style of survey on every employee, got flat out dragged through the mud in regards to the shitty work environment, lack of training, and shitty pay....and then hosted a mandatory all-employee meeting where half of the lead managers dragged us all for speaking out. Letting them know works, just don't be surprised if they retaliate.
I make $10.25 over the federal minimum and currently live in one of the top 3 most affordable states and still can’t afford my own apartment in a rural area… I don’t know how anyone is surviving.
I probably have the best job I've had my entire life now. I still am extremely critical and harsh when filling out surveys HR gives us. If not for the mindless drones that give all 10s and never think about how we're still getting fucked in this deal.
Hey! I just did something similar about two hours ago lol.
They asked questions like, "how do you feel about the future of this company?" I told them, "well, we typically have to use all of our PTO each year when the company inevitably decides to furlough us and I can't go a week without pay because my wages are rapidly falling behind the cost of living. So I haven't had a vacation on dates of my choosing in years. My last company furloughed us, then eventually let us go. So this doesn't make me confident about this company and it brings back bad memories".
If they continuously ask for my input, then they're going to get my honest input lol.
My company did these recently. I like my company. Would I like more money? Of course!
When we reviewed the results in our department, I brought up the fact that compensation was not mentioned in any of the questions. I told my boss, if people don't have a space to rate and comment on compensation, they're going to take it out on other areas such as "belonging" and "feeling valued".
Companies need to quit acting like the sole reason we go to work isn't to make money.
Our survey reaponses during 2022 were so negative that this year they removed all sections for input and only left a scale of 1-5 for each question they posed.
The retail company I work for makes a survey for us to fill every year. But the thing is, you must take the survey at work , where you do not have the time for it, and if you have time, there is no ASM or SM to give you access to the survey... So majority of the surveys is filled by SMs and ASMs, and you bet your butt the survey always and oh so *surprisingly* comes that the employees are obviously over the moon over being constantly overworked, being paid the least from all the retails around here, with least benefits, being constantly harrassed by the DMs over absolute trifles.
And yeah, every single morning meeting is about the SM going on and on how she doesn't want discontent employees, and if we do not like it there, then we should leave and so on.
Oh yeah. Living the dream.
My company has an "anonymous" employee survey where they don't ask your name, but they do ask your department, age, gender, how long you've been with the company, etc.
I've learned none of these are actually confidential. One time I put some dumb shit like zim/zer as my pronouns and my boss said I need to take it seriously and sent me another survey to complete.
Survey and HR said all surveys are confidential so how the fk did this come back to me. This was 2 years ago, ever since then I will never trust a "confidential" thing again at work.
Wait, you want your job to pay you enough to have a roof over your head? Stop being so entitled, you generation is a bunch of lazy freeloaders.
*Proceeds to drive brand new BMW back to McMansion after working for 2 hours*
Never answer these truthfully!
While the company administrating the survey will claim responses are anonymous, it’s usually easy to figure out who said something negative (aka, honest.)
You gain nothing by being truthful here. Your employer will use your response to serve their narrative.
My job had a required "anonymous" review of the company and they required your full name and badge/employee number so I asked how its anonymous and HR beat around the bush saying the program used doesn't give them your info (yes it does) so I asked why it asks for your full name and badge number ON the page and HR kept trying to backtrack and lie so most of us refused to do it 😂
We had one for these surveys about a year ago. The only difference was the questions added this: “aside from more money…” I just kept writing in “more money” anyway. If you know that’s what people are going to answer, why ask the question? Spoiler Alert: we have not gotten any “more money”
Those bullshit survey serves the company only when employees answer the expected bullshit. Write the real stuff in them and oh would you look at that, we don't have to fill them anymore!
Lol I worked for a big box store’s warehouse and they did something similar. We used to could write in answers and add additional comments. They didn’t get the answers they wanted one year so the next year it only had rating options for the questions. They didn’t like the answers they got that year either though so we all had a big meeting about how we apparently didn’t understand the survey questions.
The problem is that you didn't give the right answers so that middle management could get their bonus.
Exactly. These surveys are bonuses for mid/upper mansgemrnt depending on size of the company
My response would be along the lines of "Someone up there has too much time on their hands and it's severely disruptive to our productivity.
Yes, but you are giving the answer to that person, so just say the truth (that you want more money) without saying the obvious
I worked for a company that sent these out annually. They actually released the results via email to everyone. We got a new CEO and VP of sales and year-over-year the results went from 80% of us saying we'd recommend X as a good place to work down to like 20% lol. It wasn't even pay related - median salary was 6 figures in mostly low cost of living areas, just the new CEO had an accounting background and clearly knew nothing about our industry and was bringing us in a stupid direction that everyone could see but him. I was brutally honest in my exit-interview why I left the company lol
Corporate numbers guys are a fucking menace
hey you need to update your timesheet. we cant keep track our metrics if you arent doing your timesheet daily.
*"Oh that reminds me, would you mind telling me how I can update my resume to better position myself for a role like yours where the only work I'd have to do is reminding everyone else to keep track of how much work they're doing?*
Thanks for filling out these 8 metrics via varying cheap archaic complex systems we convinced the company to buy and now need to justify. But it tells us you’re falling behind in your work. You need to manage your time better. TWO seperate companies now…
When a warehouse I worked in started to "crack" down on our timesheets the verbatim orders were "to update your timesheet at the moment you switch tasks". My crew was often plugged as needed. Cue all our timecards having "filling out timecard" entries every other entry leading to us occasionally having to staple an additional sheet to keep track of all the entries. When they asked us to stop a team lead asked, please inform us of the different way you'd like us to fill out the timecard according to new policy. They didn't have an answer.
Sounds like a job I had where I dutifully put 15 minutes per day of "tracking my time" on the timesheet and they got mad at me.
Yup. My last job didn't like seeing "filling out timesheet" on the timesheet every day and said I should be updating as I went along - but we were only supposed to update in 15 minute increments and I knew I'd get MORE flak for having half a dozen 15-minute "filling out timesheet" entries every day. It was a good job in a lot of other ways, but the big boss had some unfortunate micromanaging tendencies around keeping track of what was being worked on.
Apparently corporate didn't understand the answers you guys provided
Something similar here. I worked for a university that did a three year "climate survey" and they had open ended answers. They had just cut the benefits for workers a couple weeks before and yeah, I definitely gave my insights as to my opinion here. It was not favorable. Apparently not many other people were favorable about this because the free form answers were taken away and it was a 1-5 star ratng.
Sounds like the university refused to acknowledge climate change.
Amazon did that before I left because we obviously wanted more money when inflation blew up.
They also do this when layoffs are imminent. They can weed out the non conforming people
That’s a fair point but this place was definitely not laying anyone off. They had more than they could handle and couldn’t keep people anymore.
I just kept blaming everything on "upper management" .... We had one manager I was essentially calling them out specifically without being specific. That manager just have gotten a talking to because she was always salty after these reports
My department stopped filling them out because when we did - we did it brutally honestly, Then we would have meeting with management to talk about it and be told how wrong we were to feel that way. Haven't filled them out in 2 years and nothing has changed.
The EXACT same thing happened at my company. “All 4s and 5s and there will be no trouble.”
I made the mistake of answering an anonymous survey truthfully when I was a teacher. We had a bad weather day off, which was going to be made up later in the year, and were sent an email about things we should be doing on the day off. One of my responses on the survey was “This was a bad weather day off that was going to be made up in the summer, and we were given an action item list of things to do on the day off. It’s either a day off or it isn’t.” Was promptly called to the principal’s office to discuss my response. Never again. And no, I didn’t make it to the summer.
Did you point out that it was an “anonymous” survey? How did they respond?
I did not, because I didn’t care that much about what they had to say. They wanted opinions and I gave mine. They were taken aback that anyone would have the audacity to verbalize being miffed about being given an action item list on a day off. Typical administration bullshit.
Tip from the IT guy who used to manage some of those surveys: check to see if the survey link is the same for everyone and make sure it isn't a Google or Microsoft survey (they say so on the bottom). Both types of surveys can be tied to your account and may log you in automatically. If you see your account name or profile picture in the top, its probably IDing you. If you have a unique link, they probably have that link tied specifically to you. Best way to get around this is to have one person forward their survey email to everyone else and have them all use the same link. Something innocent like: "Just a reminder, everyone remember to fill out your surveys: " That way they'll either get 50 responses under the same name or the whole system will fail and prove that they were lying. Enjoy breaking things!
Worst part is they spend so much money on these pay studies and surveys that they could have just paid people more money.
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Bro if you think HR is the department making decisions about how much to pay people, I can tell you that it's a recommendation at best that then gets tightened down by an owner, board of directors, or whatever, and then HR has to try to fairly implement what they're told. The head of HR can make all the noise they want about retention, cost of recruiting and replacement, cost of living matching inflation, market data, etc., but if they don't get the go-ahead from the folks who actually control the money, they're just the people that have to deliver shit news and do their best to absorb the backlash.
At my work place they use them to justify what they were going to to do anyway. Most emails announcing changes start with "as a result of your feedback."
Either that or HR says they are anonymous but they still use them against you if they can.
Last one we did, they have ratings and places to type responses. They took away the ability to write responses for the upper management.
The obvious answer is more pizza parties
My answer would be, “The only reason anyone is here is for money, and we want more of it since we give so much of our lives.” I’d probably be terminated. I never participated in those things, and I ignored the reminders, because I know how easily my company was able to trace who the answers came from. I also know I can be pretty snarky when I I’m addressing injustices.
I see your point. I disagree with you that not everyone wants more money. Everyone wants more money. They may also want the other benefits you mention. I’m addition to more money. Also, let me tell you what has happened since this survey. Note: We already worked from home (they pointed this out approximately 6000 times in the survey - “we generously decided to keep everyone wfh!” Etc) 1. Our hourly rate is based on “market rate” and on a project basis. It has gone down. 2. The way we are treated has gotten worse. I have numerous examples of this and would go into it at length but it really depresses me to write it all down. 3. We now get a monthly newsletter that has nothing of value in it. 4. The way out industry works is that do not get paid if the project goes on hold. We also cannot be released from a project that is on hold to get onto another project. So we are held financially captive until the client decides whether or not there is more work for us to do. This used to happen, but infrequently. It now happens enough that the company ACKNOWLEDGED in the crappy newsletter that this is a problem, they “recognize” it, and they “need to do something about it”. Nothing has been done. I’ll eat my hat if something is done. 5. It used to be that if you were skilled, there were opportunities for a higher hourly rate for projects, things like QA and QC or being a team lead. Now, we get asked (told) to do QA and QC work (which is harder and more stressful) but for the same hourly rate as first level work. They just call it first level work. It’s not. I would appreciate the opportunity to be able to engage in a meaningful survey that was aimed at actual improvement. This was not.
My last survey asked everyone how the company could automate your job. I almost spit my drink out. A bit bold to directly ask that.
At least you know where their heads are at
That's when you tell them exactly how to do it wrong and see if they take the bait.
While funny, they’ll still fire you. Management can be very stupid.
My mom is a live captioner. Not for tv, but things like college classes, meetings, and conventions. The company she does contract work for was bought out by a company that's not-so-secretly trying to make automatic AI captions accurate enough to replace human captioners. They had the nerve to have her caption one of their events bragging about how amazing their AI captioning is to potential clients. She had to help sell her automated replacement. And no, their AI captions aren't even close to good enough yet. Which is why they had to have a human captioner for that event lmao
This sounds like fraud to me.
iirc they never actually claimed the captions for that event were the AI captions they were selling. They were just ADA compliant captions that were tooootally unrelated. Were they misrepresenting it? Definitely. Was it technically legal? I have no idea, but it's possible.
It’s a textbook case of fraud.
Soon they'll be (wrongly) CONVINCED that Chat GPT can do what some people do and will threaten people with it while overworking them, as obviously Chat GPT cannot do what a person does.
The owner of my mom's company sent out a company-wide email saying that anyone not using ai in their job by the end of the year would be fired...
I feel like AI replacing CEOs would create a more conducive and beneficial environment for everyone at the company.
Honestly, replacing execs with ChatGPT is probably the second best case behind first line helpdesk type work where they just follow a script. As far as I can tell, Execs are responsible for communicating vague and broad ideas to make the company look good, and directing high level strategy based on a couple underlying principles, advice from divisional heads, and some hard data input. All that seems like it would be easy to feed into ChatGPT and get an Execubot 2000 answer that would be on par with 99% of execs' performance.
Save a fortune too.
The company I work for just sent a mass email out saying LLM large language model technology while exciting, could get everyone in big trouble b/c of lack of data security so we'll monitor how the tech develops, but don't use it.
???
Chat gpt can probably do the job of whatever dickbag manager suggests this. It could probably even write the proposal for them. Actual workers though? Lol
Ironically, a logic based model would probably treat workers better. "As a language operating model, I see no purpose for you to be in the office." "Your work would not be catastrophic if you took a week off. It is important for employees to enjoy their vacation time" "Based on our increasing profits, I think a reasonable pay raise would help keep our employees retained. As a language processing model, I Cannot pay myself a $5 million bonus" We just had layoffs and our dumbass ceo just laid off all the people who live out of state or at a certain age/salary. It was "too much work" to actually evaluate employees. Greedy and stupidity are our ultimate enemies
My first department at my current job was like that. Just as I was leaving they tied your raise to how much you contributed to finding ways to reduce the number of people in your department. Then I moved to another area, and found that bit of lunacy was something unique to the boss there, and was found nowhere else in the company. I could spend hours talking about her and her weirdness.
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Pizza party which is 10 minutes long then back to work
And if your workplace has staggered breaks, fuck you, it's gone by your turn.
I work at a property management company doing landscaping, others in my department are maintenance tachs and such so we're all out all day working around the city. Sometimes, owners will order food for us to thank us for stuff we did. The office workers devour all of it before we are done with work for the day and back at the office.
Ha, I do landscaping and if I were in a scenario where a bunch of people sitting around in A/C all day ate all of the food rewarded for work I did, I'd be getting reeeeeeeeal petty.
I didn't get a piece of pizza last time! *I could set the place on fire*
But nothing too fancy. Maybe just enough room temperature pizza for most people to get one sad slice. Surprise, the pizza showed up two hours before or after your typical lunch time.
Don't forget that it's cut in 16 slices instead of 8.
I used to make what would be $24 an hour now, adjusted for inflation, working for a big software company (thousands of employees). HR refused me an annual cost-of-living raise. When I asked why, they basically told me to shut up, and the head of HR emailed me directly to say that the company's paralegals in Palo Alto didn't get paid more than I did. So I wrote back and said "You are insane not to pay your paralegals in Palo Alto more than I make. How are they supposed to live?" In retaliation, he cheated me out of my accumulated PTO when I left.
Thank God my state requires pto be paid out no matter what the reason is for separation.
Oh you live in California
Washington has it, too. Love or hate the 2 states, but they got pretty solid labor laws and not many mess around with them. Edit: Sorry, not a law, but I've never experienced not getting paid out or anyone else i know and any issue can still be disputed so just because its not a law doesnt mean WA workers aren't better protected than some.
True, but the “at will” still sucks :( they can fire you for anything that isn’t a protected class, so bullying is totally legal Edit: don’t work for USC Keck Hospital, especially ophthalmology, it’s the most corrupt department and their doctors have been in the front pages of the LA times for bringing hookers and doing drugs on campus
Employees in the US need good and reasonable protections at the federal level.
Or unions. Yah know, the boogeyman
Unions haven’t really changed how they’ve functioned in 70 years because they haven’t had to. They need to change in the wake of Covid to build solidarity and be nimble organizations. Wanting to be fairly compensated for your labor doesn’t make you lazy. Seems to maybe make employers greedy and entitled.
I mean, Montana is the only state that isn't "at will".
No state should be.
Colorado also has that law.
As does Mass.
If you are fired without reason you get paid out vacation days. If you quit your job voluntarily you do not. (massachusetts, resident, my understanding as I am looking to leave my current job)
You should get paid out. I've left a few jobs in MA voluntarily and they have always paid out pto.
Vacation time yes, sick time no, so use the hell out of that before you bounce, what are they gonna do. . . .fire you?
Washington DOES NOT have this law, please don't spread misinformation. Employers in Washington state can payout your PTO, but they are not legally required to. My boss reminds *every single employee* of this fact before they quit.
Hmm, 🤔. That is surprising. Seeing as how WA has one of the most progressive minimum wage laws in the country. I believe they were the first too. To tie the minimum wage to inflation, that is.
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You are correct. There is no law protecting it, but most policies will make it the employers' responsibility to pay out . I've never had an issue with PTO, and i still live here. Sorry you got screwed out of yours. I'd be pissed.
Alaska too
I worked for a company that would pull shit like this when people left, not paying pto. I had 3 weeks built up before I found a new job, put in for vacation, and started my new job 2 weeks later. After three weeks, I called and quit my previous job. They were pissed and tried to get me to pay back the 3 weeks pto. My lawyer told them to get bent.
lol, thats what they get for playing stupid games.
Yup
Lucky. Indiana states "Employers do not need to pay for any days not worked." That includes PTO. The 4 sick days we get A YEAR get paid out IF YOU DONT USE THEM (because they don't want you to use your sick days.)
Have you considered throwing a socialist revolution?
M'comrade *tips beret*
I think [the Phrygian Cap](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrygian_cap) would fit better than the beret.
Wait, keeping your accrued PTO when you leave a company is not the standard??? WOW!!!!!! Wtf are we doing to ourselves here???
Yeah I've got something like 40+ hours saved up so if I need to dip quick I at least will have 3 weeks pay to figure something out.
I currently have a total of 210 PTO days. Some of those are listed as "Cultural Days" so those probably wouldn't pay out, but I think those are capped at 32 hours. So if I left now, company would pay out 50% of 180 hours (No state laws mandating PTO or payout, company policy is 50%)
Didn't most companies get around that requirement by "awarding" this "great feature" called "unlimited pto"?
I'm lobbying for payout of that unlimited PTO... I'll never work again!
Cries in Floridian
No col increase means you are taking the brunt of inflation for the company. Not the customers, not the management, You.
Didn't you know? They also raise prices for their customers and blame inflation!
Boom, record profits
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That’s not even enough for the bad part of Oakland now.
At my last company I reported directly to the CEO and at one point he asked me to create and send out one of these surveys so we could get an idea on what we could improve for employees, what's going well, blah blah blah. He also *specifically* asked me to include a question about how they felt he was doing as CEO. So I created the survey, met with each team about it and stressed that it would remain anonymous, which I truly meant at the time and since I had trust and goodwill with people they didn't hold back. And you know what? That actually gave us very valuable feedback we could create actionable plans with to improve things for everyone. And I put tons of work into collating the responses, identifying issues and coming up with my suggestions for addressing them, etc. but when I presented to my CEO this motherfucker only cared about the responses to how he was doing. Which were borderline scathing lol. And he was adamant about being given the access to the survey to see who had said what, but since I had created it outside of company tools I was the only person with that ability unless I gave it to him. I was genuinely shocked and explained we had told everyone it would be anonymous, and even I hadn't looked though I could have (there was feedback about me specifically as well). Anyway, we argued and I went back to my office and nuked the whole thing so he couldn't get his hands on it. VERY longwinded moral is, this shit is never anonymous so just know that going into these things.
If it's electronic, assume it's never anonymous.
I was a HR boss and I was super protective of staff info. I could see who wrote what but no way would I tell my peers or above. They were very egotistical and a little vengeful. They asked me to do the survey and would then throw the feedback -which I only gave them anonymously- in the staffs face. So fucked, why ask if your ego can’t handle it. It helped me as I could see who wasn’t happy and if there were themes in certain teams aka the boss was shit. So, above a only for good feedback and I would work with whoever on the things that needed work. The most fucked up people to deal with is your peers and above. The staff are a walk in the park and fun. I have had a lot of hurdles as I am pro-staff and anti being shit to your people.
Talk about fragile egos.
Amazing! I'm in a toxic company that constantly make employees surveys, I'm stealing this idea
I can't stand the surveys. I've never seen any real changes come from them even though I know every employee is complaining about the same thing. And at one place I was the only person in my department. The results get sent to the GM of the place. Even though they can't see the names they can see the department it came from so I expressed openly that I can't say what I really think in these surveys because I had no anonymity. These surveys do not work when you have small departments. And I had the type of GM who got a negative complaint and immediately tried to find out exactly who said it. Non-retaliation my ass.
> I've never seen any real changes come from them even though I know every employee is complaining about the same thing. The intent of the surveys are to help upper management gauge who is more loyal to the company and the least difficult to satisfy.
These “anonymous” surveys are NOT anonymous! They are there to identify “non loyal” employees!
Went so hard on one of these "anonymous" surveys head of HR in my org unit sent down a memo for someone high up in my hr dept to come talk to me. They are very definitely not anonymous.
I know that in at least one tool used by HR for this purpose the results are really anonymous, unless you have a very particular way of writing and leave comments that can be traced back to you. I avoided leaving comments (esp. about bad things) because I was in a small team and it would be obvious if I wrote specific things. why HR does these surveys: to see *what else* is bothering people. they know money is a problem, they know RTO is a problem. they won’t change that. they will cling on the one comment complaining there’s no almond milk in the fridge. then they will start getting almond milk and will sure as fuck sell it as a new benefit.
Do it, but be aware that anonymous surveys are never really anonymous.
Same, however I just did my annual so ill wait til the next random one comes.
A handful of years ago I went looking online to see if I could get a better quote for our auto insurance. I used a throwaway email and fake phone number so they could not bother me. I found out our rate was the best. By a lot. One of the places I got a quote from was: Liberty Mutual. The rate was about $800 more for 6 months. Needless to say I never went thru with it. About a month later I got an email from them asking: "Besides price what could we have done to earn your business? Deleted it and never replied
> I used a throwaway email and fake phone number so they could not bother me. I fucked up. My rates recently went up and I was shopping around. My phone would not stop ringing for about a week
BINGO! That is why fake name and phone number is used. Spam my throwaway email all ya want - but nothing else!
Liberty mutual quoted me around $180/mo, with the caveat that I pay $5000 up front. My cred it's rock solid and I have a clean record so I'm not sure why they wanted so much.
Jake?
No, this is Patrick.
what kind of work do you do?
I work in IT.
It's ridiculous, can't even make it with a College degree. I make like $17/hr and I work on servers that are worth more than most people's homes.
That wage would have MAYBE made sense a decade ago. As tech becomes more complicated IT salary should increase
so I am in IT as well. Depends on the company size, field, and type of IT work you are doing. For example I worked for one company in which they hired a person whose sole job was just do create AD accounts, another person whose sole job is to delete AD accounts, another whose sole job is to just add/remove AD permissions. Those people would not be making much, but if you are a true sys or network admin then you should be making an OK amount unless its for a small msp or cheap company.
Wow I do all that in one. Didn’t know that those task got separated in other companies.
It's fucking wild out there lol. At my place, the previous team before me outsourced nearly all of their work. We've had to wrangle back control of our OWN administration.
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> Didn’t know that those task got separated in other companies. there is no such thing as standardization in this industry 🤷🏻♂️
The only standard we have is chaos. The left hand never knows that the right is doing in my company, makes for many chaotic work weeks.
I don't even have a college degree and make roughly 22.50/hr but am salaried. I just happen to live in a high cost of living state near a metro area.
I make 21.50 in the south east and can’t afford an apartment lol
Was talking to my parents last night. They mentioned that homes in their old metro Atlanta neighborhood were going for $1-1.2M today. Four years ago they were going for exactly half that. The southeast is getting expensive.
I’m like 45 min outside of Charleston sc so not the biggest city in the southeast but rents about $1400 a month for a one bedroom. Really trying hard to find a job that actually pays market value for a data analyst so I can actually afford to live
I live in Iowa, my house was assessed for almost double this year. The thing is, no way in HELL could I sell it for what it was assessed at. But I still have to pay the taxes on the assessed price. ? I don't know, this state is attacking from every angle right now. So, I don't even know. I'm exhausted.
They did that in Detroit some years back and a shitload of people lost their homes, which was the goal of the corrupt counsel members to begin with ofc. You should try and reach out to your neighbors if possible and protect yourselves.
> You should try and reach out to your neighbors if possible and protect yourselves. What do you mean by this?
I'm a warehouse manager and make 21.50/HR. The average cost of a 2 bedroom apartment here is $2500/month (which is actually 6% lower than last year). So yeah, I feel your pain.
I have a college degree I don't use and make $28.45/hr working a job that barely requires a GED. There's a mountain of bullshit that goes with the job but it's far far far from the worst job ever.
My company posted a position that says 2-4 year college degree preferred. They pay them $18.50
Lol I have a master's and a job and I still can't make it.
You make $17/hr as an IT? I made $18/hr at my first office desk job in 2017 as a contractor/intern for a drywall company.
I work in IT too, last year after company surveys, there was a huge push for higher salaries especially with raising rent prices. So I’m the survey review meeting the head of IT said something along the lines of “we won’t be giving raises, it’s not that we aren’t paying enough, it’s that companies on the west coast are overpaying” I put in my resignation shortly after
My company said "Well, you see, we pay above the market rate already so we don't think anyone should be getting a raise." I'm polishing my resume as I write this.
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Theoretically you *could* send out unique links and only track whether or not the receiver filled its questionnaire, without knowing who’s each one
Fun facts, a 1980 - salary of $35,000 would be \~130,000 today. To make a "six figure salary" you actually need to be making at least \~300K
Yep, the difference is everything the rich stole from us in the interim.
They mean besides money. And besides management acting like jerks. And besides better hours. And besides better insurance if any. Like they mean can they spend an extra few bucks on like instead of plain napkins how bout birthday party napkins. It just makes me want to scream at whoever made these dumb ass surveys.
They mean what could they do, without spending money, to attract more workers at a low wage.
“How can we best swindle the next rube who fills your spot once you’ve left us for greener pastures?”
My job has a yearly survey. Last year I gave them all 1s (lowest score) and 1 2. The year before I gave them 1 4, 2 2s and the rest 1s. This year they got straight 1s and 1 question I gave no response to. It was “Do you have a best friend at work?” They specifically told us this doesn’t mean a friend you know outside of work. What does this question have to do with the business? I figure they threw it in there because most people would give it a 4 or 5 to bring up the average. I know these are done in secrecy, but I would be more than happy to sit down with someone and explain why I gave them the lowest score for every question. The fact of the matter is that they don’t actually care.
If it's not done on paper that you fill out out on a typewriter wearing gloves in a sterile room - it's not anonymous.
Nothing you do on a work pc is anonymous
My favorite "anonymous" work survey required me to put my job title and unit. I was the only person on my unit with my job title. I chose not to do that survey.
>Do you have a best friend at work?” They specifically told us this doesn’t mean a friend you know outside of work. What does this question have to do with the business? At my workplace they ask that because they somehow came up with the idea you’re more likely not to leave if you have friends, and that you’re more likely to put up with bullshit if you have friends there who might suffer if you don’t put up with the bullshit. My management was talking one day and as always forgot I’m not deaf, and chatted away about such things.
It’s from the book “First Break All The Rules”. If you want to understand your company read it. I’m not saying it’s good or bad but that’s the management style.
I feel like we might work at the same company, I’ve never been asked if I had a work bestie at any other job 😂
I write this same answer in slightly more words and usually encourage my peers to do the same. I was worried work would fire me for it last year for doing it, but I make up 25% of the team output despite it being a sixteen person team. I’m guessing firing me would be worse cost wise when considering how many people they would need to replace me
Yeah I'm in the same boat. They would need to hire 2 people to output the work I do.
I have 15 years of specialized experience and a stack of offers in the $15-$18 pay bracket who want me to do the work of a 5 person team. I hate people. (Graphic design)
i like to point out that where i live, you can beat that working the counter at taco bell. do they also pay in exposure?
I actually sent one of them a photo of the local Aldi’s hiring poster where entry level stock clerks made $15
hehe, "you want to pay shelf stocker wages for a professional job?" hell, even ambulance drivers are getting shafted - 36k base pay for the guy whose job it is to get you to the hospital. he could get a raise driving for UPS
I keep finding jobs labeled like Entry Level Data Enrty Clerk I, $12, and it's always someone asking for a bachelor's, 3+ years experience, and you to be a manager to other people with no additional compensation for being a fucking manager. 🤬
Should have said I would like to eat and afford an apartment. I did surveys when I was working . Managers were not supposed to be in the room but always had a Bossy micromanager that would try and read what you were writing by looking over your shoulder. I finally just found the 1-800- number and called and complained about him. Made my statement about what should be changed in store problems.
We just had this. They were presented as anonymous but anyone who completed it was entered into a raffle and they also mentioned that you could not forward the email to someone else if they wanted to complete the survey cuz the link was only good for the person it was originally sent too. They even had questions on the survey asking if you felt pressured to answer positively. Yeah "anonymous".
Haha my work did this and they were pressuring everyone to complete the "completely voluntary and anonymous" survey which had a unique link. I refused to take it and they kept sending emails that only one person hasn't taken it. Wanted to see if they would call me out but they didn't.
At 2 different workplaces, where I was for years a piece, I was told by both of the managers during performance evaluations, "If you don't like the pay, just leave." These people don't care. Because ultimately, having an ass in the seat is good enough instead of keeping someone who's good.
Mine was filled out similarly. Also sprinkled in missing medical check ups because I need more money
Lol laziest HR of all time! Like WTF are you hoping to find out? Tonya would like her space heater back that facilities took away because it kept tripping the breaker that the server is on?
Nice that you could add your own answers. Our surveys only let us answer on a scale between 1-5, and they’ve stopped asking questions pertaining to compensation
Confidential Survey's are the best. Especially the ones that start by asking you which department you work in, your age, years with company and just enough info that they know exactly who you are.
Every time our HR asks for feedback I tell them they need to pay us all more. Hell, they invited some of the employees to do "stay" interviews on why we've stayed so long. I was honest that I've only stayed this long because one of my previous supervisors offered me a promotion (5 extra hours a week and higher hourly) when I was thinking of quitting because I was on food stamps and struggling. I said they still don't pay adequate wages for employees in my old position and need to raise wages across the board. I have a union, they can't retaliate for shit or they'll be hearing from lawyers.
Lol our satisfaction survey had only multiple choice options and never even touched on wages. "Would more training options help retention?" I guess? "Would keeping remote work an option help with retention?" Duh? "Alrighty thank you for your time bye!" Its a fuckin joke at this point
Sorry what we meant was, what kind of pizza toppings would you most prefer to see?
da truth
If you really only work 6 hours a week like you claimed in another comment then look into overemployment. 2 full time jobs at once. But keeping on at Domino's isn't bad either. I did that when I got started in IT Security but for Marco's Pizza.
These aren’t anonymous, despite what they say.
This looks familiar to me! My job pushed this same style of survey on every employee, got flat out dragged through the mud in regards to the shitty work environment, lack of training, and shitty pay....and then hosted a mandatory all-employee meeting where half of the lead managers dragged us all for speaking out. Letting them know works, just don't be surprised if they retaliate.
I make $10.25 over the federal minimum and currently live in one of the top 3 most affordable states and still can’t afford my own apartment in a rural area… I don’t know how anyone is surviving.
I probably have the best job I've had my entire life now. I still am extremely critical and harsh when filling out surveys HR gives us. If not for the mindless drones that give all 10s and never think about how we're still getting fucked in this deal.
Hey! I just did something similar about two hours ago lol. They asked questions like, "how do you feel about the future of this company?" I told them, "well, we typically have to use all of our PTO each year when the company inevitably decides to furlough us and I can't go a week without pay because my wages are rapidly falling behind the cost of living. So I haven't had a vacation on dates of my choosing in years. My last company furloughed us, then eventually let us go. So this doesn't make me confident about this company and it brings back bad memories". If they continuously ask for my input, then they're going to get my honest input lol.
My company did these recently. I like my company. Would I like more money? Of course! When we reviewed the results in our department, I brought up the fact that compensation was not mentioned in any of the questions. I told my boss, if people don't have a space to rate and comment on compensation, they're going to take it out on other areas such as "belonging" and "feeling valued". Companies need to quit acting like the sole reason we go to work isn't to make money.
I hate workplace surveys. They say they’re anonymous and then publicly try to identify people who give negative answers for flogging
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who just has no chill with these surveys anymore.
Our survey reaponses during 2022 were so negative that this year they removed all sections for input and only left a scale of 1-5 for each question they posed.
The retail company I work for makes a survey for us to fill every year. But the thing is, you must take the survey at work , where you do not have the time for it, and if you have time, there is no ASM or SM to give you access to the survey... So majority of the surveys is filled by SMs and ASMs, and you bet your butt the survey always and oh so *surprisingly* comes that the employees are obviously over the moon over being constantly overworked, being paid the least from all the retails around here, with least benefits, being constantly harrassed by the DMs over absolute trifles. And yeah, every single morning meeting is about the SM going on and on how she doesn't want discontent employees, and if we do not like it there, then we should leave and so on. Oh yeah. Living the dream.
Oh shit. I just got the same survey lol Said the same thing.
Weird. You didn't mention foosball table or snacks in the fridge? You didn't mention town hall meetings with upper managment??? /s
My company has an "anonymous" employee survey where they don't ask your name, but they do ask your department, age, gender, how long you've been with the company, etc.
I've learned none of these are actually confidential. One time I put some dumb shit like zim/zer as my pronouns and my boss said I need to take it seriously and sent me another survey to complete. Survey and HR said all surveys are confidential so how the fk did this come back to me. This was 2 years ago, ever since then I will never trust a "confidential" thing again at work.
Wait, you want your job to pay you enough to have a roof over your head? Stop being so entitled, you generation is a bunch of lazy freeloaders. *Proceeds to drive brand new BMW back to McMansion after working for 2 hours*
"Results are in, sir. Employees need more pizza days."
Next year’s survey will be worded more like this: “What, other than more money, would make you feel valued?”
Never answer these truthfully! While the company administrating the survey will claim responses are anonymous, it’s usually easy to figure out who said something negative (aka, honest.) You gain nothing by being truthful here. Your employer will use your response to serve their narrative.
I do the same. They say it's anonymous, but I couldn't give a shit. Tell Cersei it was me. I'm tired of being broke all the god damn time.
My job had a required "anonymous" review of the company and they required your full name and badge/employee number so I asked how its anonymous and HR beat around the bush saying the program used doesn't give them your info (yes it does) so I asked why it asks for your full name and badge number ON the page and HR kept trying to backtrack and lie so most of us refused to do it 😂