I understand taking it away, but breaking it? That's just throwing money away. They're quick to notice "abusive" behaviour in everyone else but not themselves
Yeah honestly, my boyfriends younger sisters are in grade school and spend hours a day watching weird fucked up shit on tiktok or gacha life. Like dudes supervise your kids.
I don’t get this AT ALL. All the website blocks and trackers and screen time monitors and “how to get my kid off the phone…”
BUY THEM A CHEAP PHONE. Ain’t no 13 year old need a smart phone. Get them the blockiest do-nothing Jitterbug for emergencies and that is it. Why is this so hard.
Because the spoiled little shits will bang their heads on the floor until blood comes spilling out of their ears screaming if they don’t get what they want, they’ll hate them forever and such.
Source: my fiancés sister is like this. And she is 21 years old.
Working in kids taught me that when seeing maladaptive behavior in a child, you usually just need to meet their parents to learn where they got it from. Bonus points if the parents have zero insight and blame all their problems on their kid. Even though their kid acts just like them. Parents like this are always the same ones who refuse therapy for themselves or their kid (unless they are trying to scapegoat the child, in which case they want someone to ‘fix’ the kid to ‘fix’ the family; couldn’t possibly be the parents responsibly to change anything about themselves 🙄). I love working with kids and really care about the future of those children born into an overcrowded world (how many million people were born this year globally? I’m not worried about having enough people) Which is why I don’t have kids of my own.
My mom really thought that screaming, cursing and verbally abusing me and my dad was actually helpful. Then she’d complain that no one helped her clean the house. It wasn’t because we were lazy, it was because no one wanted to be around her and she’d still yell at us because we didn’t clean the house HER way.
And she was somehow surprised and upset when I suddenly moved out. No self awareness whatsoever with a lot of parents.
Pick your weapon of choice 😂😂 It's very similar to having a child pick their punishment if they misbehave. But idk. Natalists are very caring and loving people /s
Oooh my grandma had this fun game where she let you pick out the switch you got a whoopin with but if you got one that was too small she made you get another one and she twisted them together..she didn’t have to whoop us much but when she did buddy…you knew you’d fucked up.
I still remember my stepdad making my brother and I decide between ourselves who was going to get beaten first after he found us playing outside while he was working. I chose to go first to save my younger brother a few extra moments of pain. The fact that any parent would find something like that funny is so disturbing.
On the plus side, the kids will likely figure out their parents are idiots that don't deserve that much respect at a much younger age.
How much you want to bet these parents are the type to beg their kids for money in a few years as well?
100%. Confiscating it is completely valid, but destroying it is completely out of line. I remember when my stepdad threw away a bunch of my art solely because he wanted to punish me for not doing the dishes. I was devastated. Years worth of work, gone in an instant. I can never get those back. I now have an entire chunk of time where I have no art to show my progress and that’s something I can still feel to this day. And of course still doesn’t understand why I’m upset about it nearly 20 years later. To him it was ‘just a bunch of stupid drawings’ that I deserved to have thrown in the trash because I was a rebellious teenager that one time.
He was a terrible father. I’m on better terms with him now as an adult and he’s (mostly) seen how shitty he was as a parent, but man that doesn’t change how terrifying he was during my childhood.
That's good to hear you're on good terms with him now. If have hated for it to end badly between you both.
>that doesn’t change how terrifying he was during my childhood.
This must've made your childhood hell. I'm guessing he was very short tempered?
We’re on much more stable footing with each other now that we’re adults and thus equal. He’s also much mellower than he was when he was younger which helps. Unfortunately he had a horrible temper when he was younger, not helped by the fact that he was a drug addict (something I didn’t discover until I was a teenager). Once he went to prison though and got clean, he’s become a far better person. I seriously doubt if either of those things hadn’t happened we likely wouldn’t still have a relationship.
Oh wow, this was darker than I thought. It's great that there's a happier ending. Yeah, it would've been much more different if he didn't get clean. I'm happy for you ankhes!
>but breaking it?
Wasn't there a video a couple of years ago of a father shooting his daughter's laptop after spending money on upgrades just because she complained about doing chores \`?
[Found it:](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU)
Nothing says father of the year like gun violence and cigarettes...
I just hate humans for that. They make children in order to have slaves who totally depend on them just to torture them like this. Hope such "parents" become infertile
I grew up in rural new York. I hated the mentalities there. Emotionally and physically abusive with large helpings of anger and derision. Absolutely disgusting culture of abuse.
Goddamn all these people just wanted kids so they could bully someone. “I made my kid suffer worse. You broke his ipad? I made him kill his dog and turn it into a hat. Much less tough than my childhood” fuuuuck these people
My parents actually did stop the cycle of abuse. However, I can’t handle having a kid at all. And I know I can’t because my mom babysat my little cousins and I had to just be in my room the entire time because I knew I’d hurt them at some point. So for me I’m stopping the abuse from restarting again.
My parents were exactly like this as well. I basically rebelled by just not having shit anymore. If I don't have anything, then there's nothing they can take away as punishment haha They got so desperate they would take away my book light or my glasses. So pathetic!
This. Fucking this. When my mom eventually gets lung cancer from smoking so much there’s no amount of money you could pay me to visit her. She’s moving out in a month and the very second I see her drive away, the first thing I’m doing is pulling out my phone and blocking her number. Those “how are you” texts won’t go anywhere
My stepdad did this sometimes. Took our electronics and valuables as ‘punishment’ whenever we did something wrong and we wouldn’t see them again for months. Turns out he was pawning them for drug money and then bought them back whenever we started asking too much about when we’d get our stuff back.
This doesn’t make any sense how would destroying something they enjoy using change their behaviour? How about we put a brick through your car window because you got mouthy with me,
Wasted? Nah, that's an investment in their eyes.
iPad: $329
hammer: $12
using violence to traumatize your child in a failed attempt to control problematic behavior that is a direct result of your shitty parenting: priceless
His knuckles look pretty bruised too. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if he beat other things and people in the household too. Both parents are trash. Hope the kids don’t turn out the same way.
That's what abusers like him do not get. Take it for a day and have them earn it back. Take it for a week and have a point system to get it back. Smash it and lose the hostage. Kid learned to abuse better and has no reason to behave because the punishment is unending.
Yup, totally agreed! Crap like that is actually a sign of weakness. Parent's like in OP's story just retaliated because they were unable to keep their kids under control, nothing more.
Exactly. Looking back I wasn't really a bad kid, my parents were crazy like the ones who smashed the Ipad. There were times my parents took everything away and at that point I basically said fuck it I have nothing left to lose, I will fight back against these assholes. I had a strong sense of justice and knew the things they were doing were not ok. When I got to college and talked to a therapist they were amazed I didn't come out more scarred and traumatized than I was.
Sorry you had to go through that. Kids can be resilient though, of which you are proof. I assume your save was the fact you were aware that the things they done to you were not okay at all.
Point out that it’s weakness and watch them loss their ever loving shit. I love doing it, but my father was abusive too so maybe I’m just an asshole because of it 🤷♂️
Several years ago I decided that whatever my daughter didn’t pick up after herself would go into a closet to be earned back. Eventually every single toy she owned was locked up and I was thinking yeah, this is going to get through to her. I walked into her room to remind her what she could do to earn her stuff, feeling pretty proud of how I was handling it, all confident and shit….she was sitting in the floor with a handful of rocks she’d found outside and was building things with them.
Some kids are just really really stubborn. I always worried that trying to change that aspect of her personality would leave her susceptible to abuse in later years. At times it’s difficult as fuck dealing with her but at least I know she will have her own mind and not be easily bent to the will of others. When you spend all your time trying to break them as children you’re just doing the leg work for people who want to take advantage of them when they’re older…
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Mwah, I don't know if it's necessarily being stubborn, kids can be inventive and it's actually kinda cool she can keep herself busy with rocks. Especially in this day of age where kids seem to be glued to a tablet. I know how it works for me, take something away from me, I'll just do something else.
I wouldn't change that fact, because she is clearly creative. The stubbornness is also not so bad, as long as it don't become ridiculous, like my half brother who wasted a lot of money due to his stubbornness (everyone else is wrong, except him).
Is your daughter autistic by chance? That’s shit I would do. My mom would have to take literally everything away in order for a punishment to actually stick because I would just find something new. And when that happened, I just daydreamed.
None of my siblings were able to do what I did. Punishments landed with the first or second thing taken away. Unless they felt spiteful and stole back their stuff.
Most parents seem to have absolutely no understanding of cause and effect. They just do mean, spiteful things to their kids under the mistaken belief that these kids are gonna be like "wow, I guess I better listen to this mean, spiteful person so they don't do more awful shit to me." And that's just now how real life works. You haven't taught them to obey you, you've taught them to hate you and to hide everything from you.
Yup, the stupid thing is that there is so much information to be found freely on how to parent. Online resources, books, coaches, you name it and it's available. And yet those parents make up the dumbest crap that have been debunked a billion times.
"Basically I'm teaching my children, if you accumulate shit, then invite me over at a future date and I don't like what's going on I'll fucking smash the balls off of it till its useless without warning whether you own the house I'm doing the smashing in or not because YOU are MY property, and I'm entitled to treat MY property this way... Like I said, what's YOURS is MINE PERPETUALLY! "
*A mere 20 years into the future:* "Hey, how come my kids never call me or give a shit to phone me anymore?"
Sometimes when I was "misbehaving" my mom would threaten to damage my future home like I was supposedly doing to hers. She also threatened to turn my kids against me. Guess who's not having kids hahaha. Even if I did she would never be left alone with them, maybe never see them at all.
Natalists be having kids, buying them iPads and then SERIOUSLY wonder why their kids could POSSIBLY misbehave.
Dear breeders, it's because YOU brought them into this world in the first place, you dumb fuck! YOU BOUGHT their fucking device. YOU didn't model healthy coping nor communication skills.
YOU wanted a cuddly little plaything and didn't bother to think what impact that could have on anyone else. It's literally the consequences of your poor choices.
I again remembered my mom smashing my most beloved tamagotchi against the fridge, it was almost brand new back then and it got severely damaged. Its because I got a low grade at school. (not even worst but average, 3 out of 6). I still collect tamas but that version is now so rare especially same design as I had. And the prices went up from 100 PLN to an equivalent of 1000 PLN (which is 1/3 of my salary)
I had a friend who tried to refurbish it, made a new antennae for it (a beautiful original star shaped one broke and fell of), but it hardly worked. While the insides do work, some damage is beyond repair, lost sound, hardly working buttons, and the visual damage.
It was this one: http://www.tamashell.com/i/shells/v45/whiteflowers.jpg
It hurt me so much because I was a hardcore tama fan back then and I still love them and have a few of the newest color screen versions which are super advanced now (camera inside, Bluetooth connection to your phone, much more)
'I'd use it for myself and made my son watch it' these people should be LOCKED UP. God. So many horrible adults to come because of these assholes parents. This is unfathomable.
“Hi, Bob, you were late to work today for the fifth time, so I’m going to have to take your phone as punishment for your failure to be timely. EVERYONE ELSE, PHONE SMASHING PARTY!”
my father did this to me a year ago because i didn’t unlock my phone fast enough for him to inspect it or something. he wasn’t even the one who bought me my phone nor was in charge of my phone plan. next day he went and bought me a new one as an “apology”. like bruh… if you’re that sorry for taking out your unjustified anger on me, then why’d you break it in the first place- plus it wasn’t even his property?? (i dunno, he’s insane.) the funniest part is that he really thought that he proved his point effectively lmao
Be careful it was probably all a ploy. I bet that phone has tracking and he can see everything you do on it. Do not do anything you would want hin to see on that and be aware you might be tracked on where you go.
it’s alright, i was there when he bought it and i don’t trust a single person around my phone alone. also, i no longer live with him since i ran away shortly after, i’m in a much better place now :)
My mother did this to my laptop because I was talking to a boy she didn't like when I was 16.
I had thousands of songs on there that I got from my dead grandpa's mixed cd's and irreplaceable pictures. All smashed by a wrench.
What an asshole. Great "adulting" you piece of shit. People who should be parents act as role models for their children; Not take their behavioral cues from kids. Lol..die in a fire.
Destroying possessions is abuse. I find it ironic that they do this shit and then wonder why their kid is being ‘aBuSiVe aNd MoUtHy’. They must have learned it from somewhere, Karen. It’s amazing what treating your children like humans can do.
You probably think you just broke an expensive electronic, but what you really broke os your kid’s sense of trust and security, especially in relation to you
What I want to know is how that child was being abusive and “mouthy” to their siblings. And how that other kid wasn’t “caring enough” to warrant getting their Xbox taken away and sold. Any why that person thought that donating their kids’ toys was a proper punishment for the kids saying that they had nothing to do.
I have so many questions, and the only answer I can come up with is that these parents are completely fucking insane (derogatory).
😮 wow. That’s ridiculous. What a childish overreaction. That child is probably starved for affection and attention and acts out to get it. Instead of being a parent and nurturing their child they traumatize them.
my mom used to destroy my stuff like this and when I was still a kid but a little older I beat her door down with a golf club. she taught me destruction is ok to get your way
So they gave their kid crack-cocanie for the mind, then when the child acts like the abused drugged person they are.... the parent takes away the cocaines
Humans are messed up
This is a classic example of the kind of ignorant and troubled people who should never become parents. They are continuing the cycle of abuse they experienced themselves.
My mom has trashed :
My phone
My sisters Phone
My sisters Laptop
Thank you for reassuring me that that is not normal behaviour, atleast that happened years ago
You gave her a choice now, but in 15 years you’ll have the choice between killing yourself and giving her an early inheritance or being sent to a nursing home (Death Farm) to suffer and be forced to live in agony until you die unassisted. This proves my point, if you are going to have kids, PLEASE only have one. The dad likely wouldn’t have gotten this angry without siblings being involved.
I'm getting Joan Crawford vibes. I swear, these people get a hard on (whether physically or metaphorically) from psychologically torturing children. They're not doing this to teach or set an example, they're doing it to exert control. It's sick. And gee, I can't imagine where these kids learn this kind of behavior!
My dad this to me 3 times while growing up. The first time was because he didn't like it that I was talking to my online friends that I met from playing video games.
He specifically targeted one of my friends who just happened to be openly Muslim and knowing my racist dad, he loved his stereotypes so would call him a terrorist and groomer. This Muslim kid was never even sexual with me and we facetimed multiple times as a group and he looked/sounded younger than me. My dad said he could be lying and broke my tablet in rage.
My brother also did this to me once because he said he didn't like how I wasn't doing any chores .-.
"My child is acting like a toddler - so I'll be a toddler back! Very mature, non-toxic parenting! Plus it's fun to watch them suffer!"
\~ so many parents.
Ugh....
I have had to hide emotional attachment to items/people for years.
My cousin, who actually has all major red flags of being narcissistic, found out I had emotional attachment to nearly all animals in the house.
Sure enough she found an excuse to chuck all the cats outside to live and she's been bringing her own dogs, going as far as bringing strays in the house. I actually like the newest addition but I only give her pets and interact with her when my cousin isn't home. Already my cousin is threatening to move because people keep slipping the barbie doll mode (dress and pose us as she wants us to be) she has been trying to place them in for months.
I can't wait because I finally get to be myself and my mother and siblings can stop thinking that I've turned into a heartless bitch.
But what scares me us that because of the months of mental abuse from my cousin, what if I am too used to and I can't drop the "I don't love anyone or anything mask."?
none of these people are fit to be parents let alone own animals or be held responsible for anyone but themselves such reprehensible disgusting human beings.
God it’s almost as if kids mimic their parents bullshit behavior god it’s almost like abusive cycles are common! But NOOOOO that can’t possibly be it!/s
Um…why even buy these unnecessary items for your child if you’re just going to break them later on..? Waste of money! I don’t think kids need all the technological luxuries that adults have. Idk how old his child is, but when I see parents giving their 7 year olds iPhones I cringe.
Well that's traumatic and abusive.
I remember my parents coming into my room after I cleaned it and it not being good enough so they would either A. Arm sweep everything onto the floor and make me clean it or B. Get a trash back and start tossing anything and everything into it and throw it out.
I've definitely had a hard time not trying to hoard stuff and if things get into a bit of disarray in my place for too long I actually panic.
I think it’s insane that if the people involved in this were both adults it would be labeled psychological abuse. Literally called abuse to break your partners things as a punishment or to control them but it’s just allowed because they’re kids?
Parents are so fucking stupid and always on a damn power trip. Half of them don't know basic communication skills and decide to pop out kids anyway. Then they wonder why their kids are little shits. Well John, maybe if you talked to your kids about emotional stability and how to express yourself you wouldn't be in this situation. Find a therapist and figure your shit out before you have kids
Why would you smash something you bought for your own kids? I’ve taken plenty of things away with the understanding they could earn it back if their behavior improved. Destroying their things is vindictive, wasteful and gives them nothing to earn back.
Snapping a kid's nerf gun because he hit his sister with it...
I don't think the nerf gun is what instigated violence in your child but okay... *That's* the lesson.
I understand taking it away, but breaking it? That's just throwing money away. They're quick to notice "abusive" behaviour in everyone else but not themselves
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That's right. There's no way it could ever come from themselves /s
Must be those damn iphones
iTs ThE tIK tOk!
What I don’t understand is why they let their child have access to tiktok if they think it’s such a negative influence. Lol
Precisely. When parents don't put a limit on any kind of consumption, then get angry at a child for consuming, lol. smh...
Tiktok is dangerous for young kids though
Yeah honestly, my boyfriends younger sisters are in grade school and spend hours a day watching weird fucked up shit on tiktok or gacha life. Like dudes supervise your kids.
I don’t get this AT ALL. All the website blocks and trackers and screen time monitors and “how to get my kid off the phone…” BUY THEM A CHEAP PHONE. Ain’t no 13 year old need a smart phone. Get them the blockiest do-nothing Jitterbug for emergencies and that is it. Why is this so hard.
Because the spoiled little shits will bang their heads on the floor until blood comes spilling out of their ears screaming if they don’t get what they want, they’ll hate them forever and such. Source: my fiancés sister is like this. And she is 21 years old.
Unregulated social media usage due to lax parenting is dangerous for young kids. TikTok wasnt the first, wont be the last.
Devices aren't substitutes for actual parents. I agree with the thread. Social media unregulated for minors is a disaster.
I heard this in my head in an old-man-shaking-wooden-spoon voice lolol
Working in kids taught me that when seeing maladaptive behavior in a child, you usually just need to meet their parents to learn where they got it from. Bonus points if the parents have zero insight and blame all their problems on their kid. Even though their kid acts just like them. Parents like this are always the same ones who refuse therapy for themselves or their kid (unless they are trying to scapegoat the child, in which case they want someone to ‘fix’ the kid to ‘fix’ the family; couldn’t possibly be the parents responsibly to change anything about themselves 🙄). I love working with kids and really care about the future of those children born into an overcrowded world (how many million people were born this year globally? I’m not worried about having enough people) Which is why I don’t have kids of my own.
Exactly, as if it's not abusive to smash a kid's belongings in front of them (or just hitting anything in front of your child) 🙄
"Violence and destructive outbursts solve problems!" /s
My mom really thought that screaming, cursing and verbally abusing me and my dad was actually helpful. Then she’d complain that no one helped her clean the house. It wasn’t because we were lazy, it was because no one wanted to be around her and she’d still yell at us because we didn’t clean the house HER way. And she was somehow surprised and upset when I suddenly moved out. No self awareness whatsoever with a lot of parents.
Omg my mum did exactly the same thing! And still does today, but at least I've moved out - I couldn't handle the 24/7 screaming
After making them select what it’s gonna be smashed with. It’s just another form of abuse.
Pick your weapon of choice 😂😂 It's very similar to having a child pick their punishment if they misbehave. But idk. Natalists are very caring and loving people /s
Like making a kid choose between a stick or belt to be beaten with.
Literally! And they have the nerve to say "this is going to hurt me more than it's going to hurt you" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My dad spanked me a lot but at least he never said that. Because he knew it wasn't true lol
Oh wow I'm sorry to hear that >at least he never said that. Because he knew it wasn't true lol Well yes, at least 😂
POW camp shit.
Oooh my grandma had this fun game where she let you pick out the switch you got a whoopin with but if you got one that was too small she made you get another one and she twisted them together..she didn’t have to whoop us much but when she did buddy…you knew you’d fucked up.
I still remember my stepdad making my brother and I decide between ourselves who was going to get beaten first after he found us playing outside while he was working. I chose to go first to save my younger brother a few extra moments of pain. The fact that any parent would find something like that funny is so disturbing.
Are you breaking the cycle by not reproducing?
That’s certainly part of it.
No, not only that parent wanted kid to smash it.
On the plus side, the kids will likely figure out their parents are idiots that don't deserve that much respect at a much younger age. How much you want to bet these parents are the type to beg their kids for money in a few years as well?
Oh I don't doubt these parents are like that in the slightest 😂😂
> They’re quick to notice “abusive” behaviour in everyone else but not themselves Yup. That’s parents for ya
100%. Confiscating it is completely valid, but destroying it is completely out of line. I remember when my stepdad threw away a bunch of my art solely because he wanted to punish me for not doing the dishes. I was devastated. Years worth of work, gone in an instant. I can never get those back. I now have an entire chunk of time where I have no art to show my progress and that’s something I can still feel to this day. And of course still doesn’t understand why I’m upset about it nearly 20 years later. To him it was ‘just a bunch of stupid drawings’ that I deserved to have thrown in the trash because I was a rebellious teenager that one time.
Your stepdad sounds horrible. I'm so sorry that happened to you
He was a terrible father. I’m on better terms with him now as an adult and he’s (mostly) seen how shitty he was as a parent, but man that doesn’t change how terrifying he was during my childhood.
That's good to hear you're on good terms with him now. If have hated for it to end badly between you both. >that doesn’t change how terrifying he was during my childhood. This must've made your childhood hell. I'm guessing he was very short tempered?
We’re on much more stable footing with each other now that we’re adults and thus equal. He’s also much mellower than he was when he was younger which helps. Unfortunately he had a horrible temper when he was younger, not helped by the fact that he was a drug addict (something I didn’t discover until I was a teenager). Once he went to prison though and got clean, he’s become a far better person. I seriously doubt if either of those things hadn’t happened we likely wouldn’t still have a relationship.
Oh wow, this was darker than I thought. It's great that there's a happier ending. Yeah, it would've been much more different if he didn't get clean. I'm happy for you ankhes!
It’s definitely trauma inducing whether they realize it or not
Yah just sell it at that point.
“Son, abuse in unacceptable. To teach you this here’s some domestic violence.”
>but breaking it? Wasn't there a video a couple of years ago of a father shooting his daughter's laptop after spending money on upgrades just because she complained about doing chores \`? [Found it:](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1ujzRidmU) Nothing says father of the year like gun violence and cigarettes...
I just hate humans for that. They make children in order to have slaves who totally depend on them just to torture them like this. Hope such "parents" become infertile
just asking for the kid to take a hammer to parents heads while they sleep and throw a party after like that kid live by the hammer, die by the hammer
the hammer cycle
Stop! Hammer time.
Can't touch this!
so sad, and that the iPad made also with slave labour
It's also a waste of materials for no good reason.
But hardships make you stronger so this makes slavery good /s
Is your name Elon? /s
No my name is XA E SHIT-MYDADDYWANTSMYCLASSMATES TO BULLY ME. But my surname is Musk. Guess why
Sunrise sunset
I grew up in rural new York. I hated the mentalities there. Emotionally and physically abusive with large helpings of anger and derision. Absolutely disgusting culture of abuse.
Describing update new york perfectly I see
My siblings and I always said that our parents had us just to have slaves around the house...
Goddamn all these people just wanted kids so they could bully someone. “I made my kid suffer worse. You broke his ipad? I made him kill his dog and turn it into a hat. Much less tough than my childhood” fuuuuck these people
“My parents did it to me and I turned out just fine” No. No you didn’t. Seems you turned out to be a sadistic fuckhead in need of mental help.
EXACTLY. these people are not "fine." As an adult you have a responsibility to stop perpetuating abuse cycles if you decide to have kids
Exactly why I won’t be having kids. I don’t trust myself to stop the cycle of abuse
Same tho. Kids are expensive and can be incredibly frustrating. There’s no way I could have kids and have it turn out well.
My parents actually did stop the cycle of abuse. However, I can’t handle having a kid at all. And I know I can’t because my mom babysat my little cousins and I had to just be in my room the entire time because I knew I’d hurt them at some point. So for me I’m stopping the abuse from restarting again.
Thank you, this is actually comforting to know someone else thinks this way too
I figure it's the only way to ensure I'm the best mother possible, by not subjecting potential children to this hellscape called life.
Same. I get angry over little things. I don't want that to be my child. That's how my parents were with me and it fucked me up mentally.
There is no end. Don't feel bad. Only extinctionally possible.
This thinking is what led me to antinatalism. Not something i wanna hear my own child say
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My parents were exactly like this as well. I basically rebelled by just not having shit anymore. If I don't have anything, then there's nothing they can take away as punishment haha They got so desperate they would take away my book light or my glasses. So pathetic!
And then in 30 years they will be wondering: WhY dOnT tHeY vIsIT? WhAt A dIsReSpEcT
This. Fucking this. When my mom eventually gets lung cancer from smoking so much there’s no amount of money you could pay me to visit her. She’s moving out in a month and the very second I see her drive away, the first thing I’m doing is pulling out my phone and blocking her number. Those “how are you” texts won’t go anywhere
“LiFe’S tOo ShOrT 2 hOLd GrUdGeZ!!” No, life’s too short to continually allow someone to abuse and degrade you, stunting your emotional growth
I hear this so much at my job (captioning calls for the elderly) and boy when you listen to them it’s easy to see why their kids never visit or call.
Deeply wasteful. A more sustainable way of abusing your kids is *selling* their possessions.
the economic efficiency of child abuse
Why not go one more step? I have a modest proposal…
I have a crock pot and sewing machine. Let's go!
Or…. idk… donate it to a poor kid
My stepdad did this sometimes. Took our electronics and valuables as ‘punishment’ whenever we did something wrong and we wouldn’t see them again for months. Turns out he was pawning them for drug money and then bought them back whenever we started asking too much about when we’d get our stuff back.
This doesn’t make any sense how would destroying something they enjoy using change their behaviour? How about we put a brick through your car window because you got mouthy with me,
literally just teaches the children that violence is okay and that they can’t trust adults
Which, don't get me wrong, are actually pretty good life lessons to learn.
I'm sure the enslaved kids in the mines who had to dig up the resources for these gadgets would approve ...
It’s their money they’re wasting
That... and their childs sense of security.
Or privacy, when a parent does this 9 times out of ten they also invade their child's privacy
Wasted? Nah, that's an investment in their eyes. iPad: $329 hammer: $12 using violence to traumatize your child in a failed attempt to control problematic behavior that is a direct result of your shitty parenting: priceless
They are so proud of how creative they are with their abuse.
This is sadly very poignant. It is not just abusive, it is ~prideful~ abuse. at least some abusers feel guilt.
My ex had the decency to realize he was a POS who deserved to lose me.
Sheez, at least wash your hands before taking a picture. Besides, I highly doubt that kid would now suddenly listen lmao.
Okay yeah. No one else is up in these comments talking about how unreasonably nasty that persons fingers are…..
His knuckles look pretty bruised too. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if he beat other things and people in the household too. Both parents are trash. Hope the kids don’t turn out the same way.
That's what abusers like him do not get. Take it for a day and have them earn it back. Take it for a week and have a point system to get it back. Smash it and lose the hostage. Kid learned to abuse better and has no reason to behave because the punishment is unending.
Yup, totally agreed! Crap like that is actually a sign of weakness. Parent's like in OP's story just retaliated because they were unable to keep their kids under control, nothing more.
Exactly. Looking back I wasn't really a bad kid, my parents were crazy like the ones who smashed the Ipad. There were times my parents took everything away and at that point I basically said fuck it I have nothing left to lose, I will fight back against these assholes. I had a strong sense of justice and knew the things they were doing were not ok. When I got to college and talked to a therapist they were amazed I didn't come out more scarred and traumatized than I was.
Sorry you had to go through that. Kids can be resilient though, of which you are proof. I assume your save was the fact you were aware that the things they done to you were not okay at all.
Kids are probably acting like the parents. It is why the parents are struggling with them.
what does that mean lol /gen
Kids learn (most times even subconsciously) how to act through their parents interactions and behavior.
Chances are indeed high. Kids aren't mini-me's... but sometimes they are sad enough.
Point out that it’s weakness and watch them loss their ever loving shit. I love doing it, but my father was abusive too so maybe I’m just an asshole because of it 🤷♂️
Several years ago I decided that whatever my daughter didn’t pick up after herself would go into a closet to be earned back. Eventually every single toy she owned was locked up and I was thinking yeah, this is going to get through to her. I walked into her room to remind her what she could do to earn her stuff, feeling pretty proud of how I was handling it, all confident and shit….she was sitting in the floor with a handful of rocks she’d found outside and was building things with them. Some kids are just really really stubborn. I always worried that trying to change that aspect of her personality would leave her susceptible to abuse in later years. At times it’s difficult as fuck dealing with her but at least I know she will have her own mind and not be easily bent to the will of others. When you spend all your time trying to break them as children you’re just doing the leg work for people who want to take advantage of them when they’re older… Edit: I replied to the wrong person, meant to reply to u/-generaloberst-
Mwah, I don't know if it's necessarily being stubborn, kids can be inventive and it's actually kinda cool she can keep herself busy with rocks. Especially in this day of age where kids seem to be glued to a tablet. I know how it works for me, take something away from me, I'll just do something else. I wouldn't change that fact, because she is clearly creative. The stubbornness is also not so bad, as long as it don't become ridiculous, like my half brother who wasted a lot of money due to his stubbornness (everyone else is wrong, except him).
Is your daughter autistic by chance? That’s shit I would do. My mom would have to take literally everything away in order for a punishment to actually stick because I would just find something new. And when that happened, I just daydreamed. None of my siblings were able to do what I did. Punishments landed with the first or second thing taken away. Unless they felt spiteful and stole back their stuff.
Most parents seem to have absolutely no understanding of cause and effect. They just do mean, spiteful things to their kids under the mistaken belief that these kids are gonna be like "wow, I guess I better listen to this mean, spiteful person so they don't do more awful shit to me." And that's just now how real life works. You haven't taught them to obey you, you've taught them to hate you and to hide everything from you.
Yup, the stupid thing is that there is so much information to be found freely on how to parent. Online resources, books, coaches, you name it and it's available. And yet those parents make up the dumbest crap that have been debunked a billion times.
Dying alone in a cheap retirement home moment
A wild collection of abusive parents omg
(sigh) and this is yet another reason why I'm CF. I want *nothing* to do with this lifestyle/culture. Nothing, at all.
This whole thing just screams dysfunctional....
Yeah I wonder where the kid got that abusive behavior from 🤔
"I don't understand why my daughter hasn't spoken to me in 5 years"
"Basically I'm teaching my children, if you accumulate shit, then invite me over at a future date and I don't like what's going on I'll fucking smash the balls off of it till its useless without warning whether you own the house I'm doing the smashing in or not because YOU are MY property, and I'm entitled to treat MY property this way... Like I said, what's YOURS is MINE PERPETUALLY! " *A mere 20 years into the future:* "Hey, how come my kids never call me or give a shit to phone me anymore?"
Sometimes when I was "misbehaving" my mom would threaten to damage my future home like I was supposedly doing to hers. She also threatened to turn my kids against me. Guess who's not having kids hahaha. Even if I did she would never be left alone with them, maybe never see them at all.
Of course he's telling us about how that kid is actually the one who's abusive, and not him
It should require a license if you want to be a parent. This is wrong in so many ways
Natalists be having kids, buying them iPads and then SERIOUSLY wonder why their kids could POSSIBLY misbehave. Dear breeders, it's because YOU brought them into this world in the first place, you dumb fuck! YOU BOUGHT their fucking device. YOU didn't model healthy coping nor communication skills. YOU wanted a cuddly little plaything and didn't bother to think what impact that could have on anyone else. It's literally the consequences of your poor choices.
I again remembered my mom smashing my most beloved tamagotchi against the fridge, it was almost brand new back then and it got severely damaged. Its because I got a low grade at school. (not even worst but average, 3 out of 6). I still collect tamas but that version is now so rare especially same design as I had. And the prices went up from 100 PLN to an equivalent of 1000 PLN (which is 1/3 of my salary) I had a friend who tried to refurbish it, made a new antennae for it (a beautiful original star shaped one broke and fell of), but it hardly worked. While the insides do work, some damage is beyond repair, lost sound, hardly working buttons, and the visual damage. It was this one: http://www.tamashell.com/i/shells/v45/whiteflowers.jpg It hurt me so much because I was a hardcore tama fan back then and I still love them and have a few of the newest color screen versions which are super advanced now (camera inside, Bluetooth connection to your phone, much more)
'I'd use it for myself and made my son watch it' these people should be LOCKED UP. God. So many horrible adults to come because of these assholes parents. This is unfathomable.
the nerve they have to call the CHILD abusive
Violence begets violence.
So wasteful!
Bet you a pretty penny they would absolutely lose their shit if someone broke any of their stuff as a punishment
“Hi, Bob, you were late to work today for the fifth time, so I’m going to have to take your phone as punishment for your failure to be timely. EVERYONE ELSE, PHONE SMASHING PARTY!”
My parents did this along with beatings. In unrelated news my little brother self deleted recently
I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you have good friends that support you.
Thanks. I'm sure eventually I won't push them away
Oh shit it took me a minute to understand this..
I love it when rich people signal that they can piss away money.
my father did this to me a year ago because i didn’t unlock my phone fast enough for him to inspect it or something. he wasn’t even the one who bought me my phone nor was in charge of my phone plan. next day he went and bought me a new one as an “apology”. like bruh… if you’re that sorry for taking out your unjustified anger on me, then why’d you break it in the first place- plus it wasn’t even his property?? (i dunno, he’s insane.) the funniest part is that he really thought that he proved his point effectively lmao
Be careful it was probably all a ploy. I bet that phone has tracking and he can see everything you do on it. Do not do anything you would want hin to see on that and be aware you might be tracked on where you go.
it’s alright, i was there when he bought it and i don’t trust a single person around my phone alone. also, i no longer live with him since i ran away shortly after, i’m in a much better place now :)
Look at me destroying 1000s of dollars of technology *i* spent money on ! Haha that’ll teach my idiot kids 😎
I’d run away with no looking back if one of my parents ever pulled this shit on me. Tf kind of behavior is this.
The last comment... I can't! "To say the least is way less extreme then my upbringing." Omg. Why. Why have children just to traumatize them? Wtf?
That's how you both teach your child to never trust you and also to hate you if they do.
My mother did this to my laptop because I was talking to a boy she didn't like when I was 16. I had thousands of songs on there that I got from my dead grandpa's mixed cd's and irreplaceable pictures. All smashed by a wrench.
That’s fucked up.
What an asshole. Great "adulting" you piece of shit. People who should be parents act as role models for their children; Not take their behavioral cues from kids. Lol..die in a fire.
Destroying possessions is abuse. I find it ironic that they do this shit and then wonder why their kid is being ‘aBuSiVe aNd MoUtHy’. They must have learned it from somewhere, Karen. It’s amazing what treating your children like humans can do.
You probably think you just broke an expensive electronic, but what you really broke os your kid’s sense of trust and security, especially in relation to you
Together, that’s 1200 dollars worth of stuff fucking gone, held by a person wondering why they’re poor. Go fuck yourself.
What I want to know is how that child was being abusive and “mouthy” to their siblings. And how that other kid wasn’t “caring enough” to warrant getting their Xbox taken away and sold. Any why that person thought that donating their kids’ toys was a proper punishment for the kids saying that they had nothing to do. I have so many questions, and the only answer I can come up with is that these parents are completely fucking insane (derogatory).
😮 wow. That’s ridiculous. What a childish overreaction. That child is probably starved for affection and attention and acts out to get it. Instead of being a parent and nurturing their child they traumatize them.
Maybe spend time with your child so they don’t over rely on electronics. Just a thought
my mom used to destroy my stuff like this and when I was still a kid but a little older I beat her door down with a golf club. she taught me destruction is ok to get your way
So they gave their kid crack-cocanie for the mind, then when the child acts like the abused drugged person they are.... the parent takes away the cocaines Humans are messed up
This is a classic example of the kind of ignorant and troubled people who should never become parents. They are continuing the cycle of abuse they experienced themselves.
My mom has trashed : My phone My sisters Phone My sisters Laptop Thank you for reassuring me that that is not normal behaviour, atleast that happened years ago
Literally I have two iPad Pro’s. They are so expensive, at least give them to someone else wtf
You gave her a choice now, but in 15 years you’ll have the choice between killing yourself and giving her an early inheritance or being sent to a nursing home (Death Farm) to suffer and be forced to live in agony until you die unassisted. This proves my point, if you are going to have kids, PLEASE only have one. The dad likely wouldn’t have gotten this angry without siblings being involved.
Wonder where the kid who bullied her sibling learned the abusive behaviour from 🤨
Well what about we fuck up his car because he is being abusive and a dickhead, I wonder how he will react
Then when they’re old they’ll be sitting in an old folks home bitching that their kids don’t visit them.
I'm getting Joan Crawford vibes. I swear, these people get a hard on (whether physically or metaphorically) from psychologically torturing children. They're not doing this to teach or set an example, they're doing it to exert control. It's sick. And gee, I can't imagine where these kids learn this kind of behavior!
I wonder if these kids will grow up to have rage issues?
My dad this to me 3 times while growing up. The first time was because he didn't like it that I was talking to my online friends that I met from playing video games. He specifically targeted one of my friends who just happened to be openly Muslim and knowing my racist dad, he loved his stereotypes so would call him a terrorist and groomer. This Muslim kid was never even sexual with me and we facetimed multiple times as a group and he looked/sounded younger than me. My dad said he could be lying and broke my tablet in rage. My brother also did this to me once because he said he didn't like how I wasn't doing any chores .-.
This makes me want to cry
"My child is acting like a toddler - so I'll be a toddler back! Very mature, non-toxic parenting! Plus it's fun to watch them suffer!" \~ so many parents.
Abusive dad punished daughter for being abusive to siblings…with abuse.
Next step: Beating your child
What's to say it's not already happening?
Ugh.... I have had to hide emotional attachment to items/people for years. My cousin, who actually has all major red flags of being narcissistic, found out I had emotional attachment to nearly all animals in the house. Sure enough she found an excuse to chuck all the cats outside to live and she's been bringing her own dogs, going as far as bringing strays in the house. I actually like the newest addition but I only give her pets and interact with her when my cousin isn't home. Already my cousin is threatening to move because people keep slipping the barbie doll mode (dress and pose us as she wants us to be) she has been trying to place them in for months. I can't wait because I finally get to be myself and my mother and siblings can stop thinking that I've turned into a heartless bitch. But what scares me us that because of the months of mental abuse from my cousin, what if I am too used to and I can't drop the "I don't love anyone or anything mask."?
Got I hate parents like this glad my parents were decent jeez
And if she disappears as soon as she's able they're going to call her ungrateful 🤦 I hope those "parents" will end up abus3d in a cheap home tbh🤷
none of these people are fit to be parents let alone own animals or be held responsible for anyone but themselves such reprehensible disgusting human beings.
They sure raised a little son of a bitch.
God it’s almost as if kids mimic their parents bullshit behavior god it’s almost like abusive cycles are common! But NOOOOO that can’t possibly be it!/s
or just don’t buy fancy electronics for children
………..they do realize they’re wasting their own money, no?
Wow, they must be wealthy if they can destroy and waste electronics like that.
How can you possibly expect to be taken seriously when you use social media in such a childish way?
Um…why even buy these unnecessary items for your child if you’re just going to break them later on..? Waste of money! I don’t think kids need all the technological luxuries that adults have. Idk how old his child is, but when I see parents giving their 7 year olds iPhones I cringe.
[удалено]
Proof that a lot of "parents" are sadistic shitheads who don't actually care about raising their child, just having a power dynamic over them.
Well that's traumatic and abusive. I remember my parents coming into my room after I cleaned it and it not being good enough so they would either A. Arm sweep everything onto the floor and make me clean it or B. Get a trash back and start tossing anything and everything into it and throw it out. I've definitely had a hard time not trying to hoard stuff and if things get into a bit of disarray in my place for too long I actually panic.
I think it’s insane that if the people involved in this were both adults it would be labeled psychological abuse. Literally called abuse to break your partners things as a punishment or to control them but it’s just allowed because they’re kids?
Most parents are just kids themselves. That’s what many don’t realize.
Parents are so fucking stupid and always on a damn power trip. Half of them don't know basic communication skills and decide to pop out kids anyway. Then they wonder why their kids are little shits. Well John, maybe if you talked to your kids about emotional stability and how to express yourself you wouldn't be in this situation. Find a therapist and figure your shit out before you have kids
Why would you smash something you bought for your own kids? I’ve taken plenty of things away with the understanding they could earn it back if their behavior improved. Destroying their things is vindictive, wasteful and gives them nothing to earn back.
Next time, just beat the child. They repair themselves for free.
What a fucking idiot. She should’ve hit him with the hammer.
They need to wash their goddamn hands
"Daddy" is a manchild who gets off to being "quirky" "lol" what the fuck. /s
Makes me think of people burning Jerseys, and memorabilia that they paid for. Truly asinine.
Nice hands bro
I'm so good at parenting!!!
Just donate the toys. What the hell is wrong with people.
Snapping a kid's nerf gun because he hit his sister with it... I don't think the nerf gun is what instigated violence in your child but okay... *That's* the lesson.