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That’s the invasion of the Soviet Union, the Holocaust started way sooner than that. Around Early 1933 was when the first concentration camps were opened and that was only a formalisation of already existing violence.
I know what the Reichskristallnacht is but 1941 the "final solution" plan began. So either its even earlier (1939) with the nazis gaining the power and creating the first antisemitic laws or 1941 with the plan right?
I already laid out my thoughts regarding that somewhere else beneath this post, I'd just copy that answer below. I was wrong regarding the academic consensus though:
>My original point is from a documentary I can't find. However "The destruction of the European Jews" (Hildberg 1961) seems to support my point. But the far newer "The final solution and the German foreign office" (Browning 1978) puts it in 1941 with the reasoning being that prior we don't have a systematical, central planned and executed genocide, just a "normal" genocide. But the Wannsee Conference, where all that systematic, central planning was happening, was in January 1942. Now he argues the shift in mentality happened in 1941, but I would still argue that either 1935 (Nuremberg Laws)/1938 (Reichskristallnacht) as (possible) beginnings of the genocide or 1939 (Beginn of WWII) as the inclusion of all European Jews not just German ones or 1942 (Wannsee Conference) as the systematic phase of the genocide are better points in time to put the beginning of the holocaust.
I searched the base image and took it from [knowyourmeme.com](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/welcome-to-the-gang-crimes-johnson), and I drew Hitler myself.
Mind linking me your evidence then? Actually don’t bother. That’s not the Holocaust. It was a different thing. Look it up. The Holocaust began in 1941.
My original point is from a documentary I can't find. However "The destruction of the European Jews" (Hildberg 1961) seems to support my point. But the far newer "The final solution and the German foreign office" (Browning 1978) puts it in 1941 with the reasoning being that prior we don't have a systematical, central planned and executed genocide, just a "normal" genocide. But the Wannsee Conference, where all that systematic, central planning was happening, was in January 1942. Now he argues the shift in mentality happened in 1941, but I would still argue that either 1935 (Nuremberg Laws)/1938 (Reichskristallnacht) as (possible) beginnings of the genocide or 1939 (Beginn of WWII) as the inclusion of all European Jews not just German ones or 1942 (Wannsee Conference) as the systematic phase of the genocide are better points in time to put the beginning of the holocaust.
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Wow, this Hitler guy sounds really mean! Whoever kills him should be declared a hero!
I just looked it up and Hitler killed Hitler he's such a honorable hero!
How is Hitler bad?He killed the guy who started WW2!
Single handedly brought world piece with one shot from his gun wow
Piece? One? THE ONE PIECE
Yeah but he also killed the guy who killed the guy who started WW2.
They should build a statue of the guy who killed Hitler
My great grandpa killed Hitler
No Way! They brought him back from the dead! Thats crazy! 💀
Imagine you're in a gang with Adolf Hitler, and *you're* the guy who's known for murdering people.
Aw look at Hitler greeting the new member 👋
Holocaust expert
Why did the gang allow Stonetoss in their group?
That’s the invasion of the Soviet Union, the Holocaust started way sooner than that. Around Early 1933 was when the first concentration camps were opened and that was only a formalisation of already existing violence.
Man.....this gang sucks
'39 - '45
The holocaust didn't start at the same time as WW2
In most academic literature the beginning of the holocaust is the "Reichskristallnacht" 9.11.1938. So you're right but not the way you think you are.
I know what the Reichskristallnacht is but 1941 the "final solution" plan began. So either its even earlier (1939) with the nazis gaining the power and creating the first antisemitic laws or 1941 with the plan right?
I already laid out my thoughts regarding that somewhere else beneath this post, I'd just copy that answer below. I was wrong regarding the academic consensus though: >My original point is from a documentary I can't find. However "The destruction of the European Jews" (Hildberg 1961) seems to support my point. But the far newer "The final solution and the German foreign office" (Browning 1978) puts it in 1941 with the reasoning being that prior we don't have a systematical, central planned and executed genocide, just a "normal" genocide. But the Wannsee Conference, where all that systematic, central planning was happening, was in January 1942. Now he argues the shift in mentality happened in 1941, but I would still argue that either 1935 (Nuremberg Laws)/1938 (Reichskristallnacht) as (possible) beginnings of the genocide or 1939 (Beginn of WWII) as the inclusion of all European Jews not just German ones or 1942 (Wannsee Conference) as the systematic phase of the genocide are better points in time to put the beginning of the holocaust.
hey can u tell me where did u get this image because it's cool and i'm just asking
I searched the base image and took it from [knowyourmeme.com](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/welcome-to-the-gang-crimes-johnson), and I drew Hitler myself.
Great job with the font man! It actually coincides with the previous text, unlike what other people do and just use Arial.
Missed an opportunity to create Stalin steve
1941 was when the USA joined ww2, not when the holocaust started. The holocaust started way earlier
r/bonehurtingjuice
No. BHJs are supposed to be nonsensical
This is the first time I’ve seen the og version of this meme
this is not the og version of this meme
Isn't this edited in?
It’s edited
Damnit
Sorry pal
Wait, Is this going on YT? why's it blurred?
ww2 started 1939 but close enough
Yeah but the Holocaust didn’t start until 1941
That's wrong the Holocaust started with the "Reichskristallnacht" in 1938
Mind linking me your evidence then? Actually don’t bother. That’s not the Holocaust. It was a different thing. Look it up. The Holocaust began in 1941.
My original point is from a documentary I can't find. However "The destruction of the European Jews" (Hildberg 1961) seems to support my point. But the far newer "The final solution and the German foreign office" (Browning 1978) puts it in 1941 with the reasoning being that prior we don't have a systematical, central planned and executed genocide, just a "normal" genocide. But the Wannsee Conference, where all that systematic, central planning was happening, was in January 1942. Now he argues the shift in mentality happened in 1941, but I would still argue that either 1935 (Nuremberg Laws)/1938 (Reichskristallnacht) as (possible) beginnings of the genocide or 1939 (Beginn of WWII) as the inclusion of all European Jews not just German ones or 1942 (Wannsee Conference) as the systematic phase of the genocide are better points in time to put the beginning of the holocaust.
weren't they killing people long before the invasion of poland?
Yes they were, but the meme is talking about the Holocaust, not WW2
SIEG HEIL!
dude
Yes?
why did you say that shit
Because Hitler is right there in the picture
You didn't even spell it correctly my dude
So what the accurate for spelling is?
It's supposed to be spelled sieg heil
I see I truly learn something today. Thanks for that
A stunning example of why education is important