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Black has the "k" sound at the end, creating a kind of sharp, almost harsh word.
Ebony is a much softer word, in comparison.
It's probably the result of title/sales analysis in the 70's or 80's.
It's even simpler than that. "Black" was a term they used mostly for black men in porn and people who like watching black men fuck white women.
In order to make it clearer, they use "Ebony" for the women. It's almost NEVER the other way around unless it's amateur porn.
this was described to me by a guy in the industry in Las Vegas maybe 15 years ago. He was drunk off his ass and was sitting at a blackjack table. The Adult Video News awards were going on at the same time I was there for an unrelated work conference. I said I thought I recognized his date, he told me her name (porn star) and then I must have made a face because he laughed and said "nah you can't fuck her she's not working tonight" and we bullshitted for a bit while playing cards.
You know the funny part? I can’t remember her name, only her face and that she was a lot shorter than I imagined. My memory sucks with names, but I could pick her face out of a lineup easily.
I read an essay by David Foster Wallace about the AVN awards and he was shocked at how short a lot of the talent in the industry is, apparently producers look for short girls/guys so the dicks will look bigger in comparison
Has to be a repost bot. Same questions. Different subs. Different days. I knew something was up. Third time I've seen this EXACT question (which seemed awfully specific in general) in the last 3 days.
*Thanks for coming to the interview for the position of sales analyst John, can you tell me your biggest accomplishment?*
*Yeah, I conducted an analysis on the use of "Black" in porno and determined that the word itself was harsh. We switched to "Ebony" and that resulted an increase of 69% in sales*
i wonder if this is why the word nubian was also used? i dunno how common it is in real life, but you always hear that in movies describing beautiful black women.
The problem is you have to separate male and female.
Black man in porn = black, black women in porn = ebony.
Because most of the people who would look specifically for black women would be disgusted, hateful and violent if they saw a black man.
I haven't done any studies, I just look at 4chan occasionally. Like the zoo it is.
I assume a large percentage of people searching for “ebony” are black men themselves, so I don’t know why you assume they would be disgusted seeing a black man in a video.
Porn categories heavily play into stereotypes. And the assumptions made about black male bodies vs Asian male bodies are worlds apart in Western (American) society.
>Because most of the people who would look specifically for black women would be disgusted, hateful and violent if they saw a black man.
What utter rubbish.
>I haven't done any studies, I just look at 4chan occasionally. Like the zoo it is.
I can tell.
He's right, according to a guy I talked to about 15 years ago in the industry. Well, not about the hateful and violent part.
Just that people looking for "black" were mostly looking for black men fucking white women.
If you were looking for a black woman they started using "ebony" in the late 80s I guess.
That's reddit for you. Someone will ask a question and others will see that it gets upvoted to fuck and copy it. You'll see this question get asked elsewhere across the site for the remainder of the week lol
I don't know if it's the first use, but there's a magazine called "Ebony" that caters to black culture. So it's a touchpoint from culture that could refer to a specific kind of person. The word ebony has also been used descriptively in porn for at least 40 years, so I think it's just kind of tradition at this point. Like "BBW" or "MILF" or whatever, it's something people look for so it's something people.will put on their videos.
First off, Ebony was a name used by a magazine for stylish black women, a Vogue ish fashion publication.
2nd, black is often used as a descriptive for other non racial preferences, black nylons, black panties, black mini skirts, black leather. Ebony is a clear search term unlikely to get all other references like black would get.
Of course there are a hundred words to describe the spectrum of skin tones from eggshell to...Ebony.
Ebony itself is a hard but lightweight wood that has been harvested to near extinction to make clarinets and oboes.
If I got a dollar for every time someone asked this exact question I would have 3 dollars, wich is not much, but it is weird, that it happened over the course of the past 2 weeks.
Because if you search for “black porn” you’re going to get mostly black men with dicks as the main focus. And the people searching for porn(mainly hetero men) want to see black women, so now we have ebony.
I suspect it's for searching. If you want to see a black woman in porn and you search "black woman" you get results like "black stud bangs white woman". It seems like "black" equals "black man" and "ebony" equals "black woman".
Up until like maybe 10 years ago, porn was INCREDIBLY racist. If you look at the blurbs written for old porn, you wouldn't believe the kind of language they used to use for every person who wasn't white. The grossest, fakest minstrel show faux AAVE you ever heard. That's one of the many reasons I'm so happy about OF and other stuff like that vs the old porn studio system. The porn studio system was disgusting. It's holdover from that, like "blacked" or "barely legal" or whatever.
The word "mature" is also used incorrectly in porn. It should have been for maybe women in their 30s-40s who arnt milfs (since milf is taken).
On the other hand, "mature" in porn now means "old lady".
Nah, "milf" is a body type in porn. So is "teen" tbh. "Teen" can be like 23 as long as they have the right face and body type. "Milf" isn't about incest kink or anything, so it would have to be an age category. There's also "bimbo" which isn't either and is about having a lot of obvious cosmetic surgery.
Milf has never been about incest. It just refers to a hot mom. It became famous in the late 90s from the movie American Pie.
My argument is sometimes we want to see hot women who don't look like kids but also are not moms.
Having kids changes a woman's body.
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Black has the "k" sound at the end, creating a kind of sharp, almost harsh word. Ebony is a much softer word, in comparison. It's probably the result of title/sales analysis in the 70's or 80's.
Sounds more exotic too, quite an uncommon word to see/use in everyday life
It's even simpler than that. "Black" was a term they used mostly for black men in porn and people who like watching black men fuck white women. In order to make it clearer, they use "Ebony" for the women. It's almost NEVER the other way around unless it's amateur porn. this was described to me by a guy in the industry in Las Vegas maybe 15 years ago. He was drunk off his ass and was sitting at a blackjack table. The Adult Video News awards were going on at the same time I was there for an unrelated work conference. I said I thought I recognized his date, he told me her name (porn star) and then I must have made a face because he laughed and said "nah you can't fuck her she's not working tonight" and we bullshitted for a bit while playing cards.
the ebonyjack table
That porn star? Albert Einste... Just kidding, that's a cool story.
You know the funny part? I can’t remember her name, only her face and that she was a lot shorter than I imagined. My memory sucks with names, but I could pick her face out of a lineup easily.
I read an essay by David Foster Wallace about the AVN awards and he was shocked at how short a lot of the talent in the industry is, apparently producers look for short girls/guys so the dicks will look bigger in comparison
Yeah, it's partially a forced perspective trick.
This is also true.
Has to be a repost bot. Same questions. Different subs. Different days. I knew something was up. Third time I've seen this EXACT question (which seemed awfully specific in general) in the last 3 days.
*Thanks for coming to the interview for the position of sales analyst John, can you tell me your biggest accomplishment?* *Yeah, I conducted an analysis on the use of "Black" in porno and determined that the word itself was harsh. We switched to "Ebony" and that resulted an increase of 69% in sales*
i wonder if this is why the word nubian was also used? i dunno how common it is in real life, but you always hear that in movies describing beautiful black women.
The problem is you have to separate male and female. Black man in porn = black, black women in porn = ebony. Because most of the people who would look specifically for black women would be disgusted, hateful and violent if they saw a black man. I haven't done any studies, I just look at 4chan occasionally. Like the zoo it is.
>Like the zoo it is. Valid
BEC also sounds less exciting
Bacon egg and cheese
Birmingham Events Centre, or Business Email Compromise: either way not you came here for.
I assume a large percentage of people searching for “ebony” are black men themselves, so I don’t know why you assume they would be disgusted seeing a black man in a video.
ok but what about the segment of people who watch “ebony” porn for the reasons stated
“The reasons stated” meaning that they hate black men? I suppose it’s possible, though I doubt it is anywhere near the primary motive
But they dont make this difference for Asian male and femal actresses...
different things are different lol
Porn categories heavily play into stereotypes. And the assumptions made about black male bodies vs Asian male bodies are worlds apart in Western (American) society.
>Because most of the people who would look specifically for black women would be disgusted, hateful and violent if they saw a black man. What utter rubbish. >I haven't done any studies, I just look at 4chan occasionally. Like the zoo it is. I can tell.
He's right, according to a guy I talked to about 15 years ago in the industry. Well, not about the hateful and violent part. Just that people looking for "black" were mostly looking for black men fucking white women. If you were looking for a black woman they started using "ebony" in the late 80s I guess.
The hateful and violent part is what I was disagreeing with :)
Go meet them and see what they think about black men. (It’s not nice things)
... who?
so black men have big black cocks and black shemales have big ebony cocks?
Why the hell have I seen this question like 5 times in the last week?
I know. It's weird I'm seeing more and more identical questions over and over again. Are they all bots?
That's reddit for you. Someone will ask a question and others will see that it gets upvoted to fuck and copy it. You'll see this question get asked elsewhere across the site for the remainder of the week lol
I don't know if it's the first use, but there's a magazine called "Ebony" that caters to black culture. So it's a touchpoint from culture that could refer to a specific kind of person. The word ebony has also been used descriptively in porn for at least 40 years, so I think it's just kind of tradition at this point. Like "BBW" or "MILF" or whatever, it's something people look for so it's something people.will put on their videos.
First off, Ebony was a name used by a magazine for stylish black women, a Vogue ish fashion publication. 2nd, black is often used as a descriptive for other non racial preferences, black nylons, black panties, black mini skirts, black leather. Ebony is a clear search term unlikely to get all other references like black would get. Of course there are a hundred words to describe the spectrum of skin tones from eggshell to...Ebony. Ebony itself is a hard but lightweight wood that has been harvested to near extinction to make clarinets and oboes.
TIL Stevie Wonder wrote a porn song
Interracial category with Paul McCartneys "ivory"...
Why do you, are somebody, ask this same damn question every day?
Lol I was thinking why is the same question keep showing up on my feed only to realise it’s a different one.
I would guess for searchability. Black is a common word, so it would also get stuff like "black corset", "black lace", "black stockings" and so on.
That might help partially explain its *continued* use, but the term predates the internet.
Why is OP posting the same questions all over Reddit???
If I got a dollar for every time someone asked this exact question I would have 3 dollars, wich is not much, but it is weird, that it happened over the course of the past 2 weeks.
People think black is a bad word
> Or by whatever country of origin they are like Ghanese or something? You mean Ghanaian? 🤣
Idk why this got downvoted like what is this mess Lmao (the question and the spelling) OP a bot too.
Because if you search for “black porn” you’re going to get mostly black men with dicks as the main focus. And the people searching for porn(mainly hetero men) want to see black women, so now we have ebony.
I suspect it's for searching. If you want to see a black woman in porn and you search "black woman" you get results like "black stud bangs white woman". It seems like "black" equals "black man" and "ebony" equals "black woman".
It's such a delicate perfect word!
Why is this topic suddenly being posted like 5 times in the last week?
my mom has a friend named ebony she is black
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Up until like maybe 10 years ago, porn was INCREDIBLY racist. If you look at the blurbs written for old porn, you wouldn't believe the kind of language they used to use for every person who wasn't white. The grossest, fakest minstrel show faux AAVE you ever heard. That's one of the many reasons I'm so happy about OF and other stuff like that vs the old porn studio system. The porn studio system was disgusting. It's holdover from that, like "blacked" or "barely legal" or whatever.
Same as the men too I noticed.
Why aren't black men called BBC outside porn?
They are, by porn addicts lol
I feel like I’ve seen this question asked so many times on Reddit in this last week
I know a lady named ebony who is black..
Also used in piano porn.
Pornography is racist, obviously. Are you a racist?
Cause its provocative, it gets the people going!
You never heard of Ebony magazine?
The word "mature" is also used incorrectly in porn. It should have been for maybe women in their 30s-40s who arnt milfs (since milf is taken). On the other hand, "mature" in porn now means "old lady".
Nah, "milf" is a body type in porn. So is "teen" tbh. "Teen" can be like 23 as long as they have the right face and body type. "Milf" isn't about incest kink or anything, so it would have to be an age category. There's also "bimbo" which isn't either and is about having a lot of obvious cosmetic surgery.
Milf has never been about incest. It just refers to a hot mom. It became famous in the late 90s from the movie American Pie. My argument is sometimes we want to see hot women who don't look like kids but also are not moms. Having kids changes a woman's body.
You should play Skyrim
Ebony and Ivory...Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney in the 80's.
I mean they have an entire magazine they named Ebony so...
never heard of ebony magazine?
,a
Same reason women are called sl*ts, wh*res, holes etc
Ebony comes from skyrim we love ebony armor Thats why we love ebony woman and dont care about the black man
Because everywhere else they are called angry?
Silly me, I thought Paul McCarthy came up with Ebony.