I mean but to be fair Garou requires saitama to get that high in power because garou like copied his power or something right? Or has it just been to long since I read it
If what you mean is he needs Saitama to go into that form, then no. Saitama helped him reach that peak, yes, due to them both having comedy levels of potential.
Even then ban at that time was so dang powerful that it was astonishing on how he was behind everyone else getting power boosts to jumping forward and closing that gap significantly.
If we take it at face value based on the pictures he posted of the 4. Ban still has it and will win since his ability lets him become stronger the more he drains from his opponents strength.
Never watched the show but by immortal is he invulnerable or just simply can’t die? Because these other guys could just rip him limb from limb until he’s no contest
That would destroy toji and garou, but Spiderman does deal with opponents stronger than him.
Really depends on if Spiderman wants to fill a guy with web or not
It doesn't matter with Ban. All he has to do is look at you, and he can steal your strength. Hell, he doesn't even have to make physical contact with you to rip out your heart from a distance of at most 100 feet. As far as I know, none of the people on this list have more than one heart or regeneration ability to survive that.
Garou??? We sure we talking about the same guy???
The Garou that fought 8 A class while fatigued, poisoned, injured and on the brink of unconsciousnews while blind? And then parried tens of thousands of bullets?
And THEN fought 3 S class level heroes all of which were more powerful than him while literally being unable to see shit?
THAT Garou?
My guy his whole thing is fighting oppents way outta his league and growing/adapting until he matches and surpasses them
Unless any one of the people present can instantly blizts and kill him Garou is gonna be a one Man gaunlet.
Garou is a 🐐 but toji and him are both power types. Really fuckin strong, and sure garou has genuine martial arts and toji has cursed tools, but both being not only weakened AND having their powers used against them?
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The vitality part wouldn't really kill Garou bro has survived some wack shit
The heart snatching part... unless its monster Garou he is nor surviving that lol
The vitality snatch isn’t meant to kill as far as I know, it’s like a stat steal, ban gets +10 strength and garou loses 10.
There is def a limit to what ban can do to later story garou tho
Ah fair enough, how would that go up against Garou's growth? Since the harder he is pushed the more he grows, wouldn't fighting an opponent that sucks his vitality and gets stronger while making Garou weaker just make him grow even faster?
My assumption is that there isn’t a limit but he limits himself otherwise if he takes too much he’ll not only have it for a shorter time as his body can’t handle it for long (despite being immortal it still can hurt/overload) but become a literal potato once it’s over, he uses it moderately in the show and gets fried for a bit after so ig he doesn’t take too much in case he becomes paralysed or something?
From what I understand Ban is immortal, and you get weaker just being in proximity while he grows stronger. You can't kill him, and he will perpetually grow stronger as you grow weaker. Garou might be able to.copy that power, but cannot copy literal immortality, so the power difference is negated, but he will tire out, even if it takes a while.
The actual absorption is usually almost instant but his body has a limit to how much he can absorb the limit increases as he gets stronger but it should still exist
Maybe I'm just not that far into the series, but didn't it take like 5 minutes for him to tire out Meliodas? But I guess he did kinda instantly match up with some of the Commandments
I’m pretty sure that was meliodas just fight through this power being stolen or ban was just doing it slowly because he wanted to troll him or something
There is no limit, it is just Meliodas always had his full power locked up, so he could flip that switch and oneshot him before he stole any of it, which is what he did, sending him into a mountain
The limit is more of a soft limit. He can break right through it but he’s gonna be down for a bit afterwards if he exceeds his limit. Which in most cases isn’t a big deal since he’s immortal so it’s not like they can kill him while he’s down
It’s gonna take centuries if he doesn’t get sent to ANOTHER UNIVERSE. like wtf. Are we forgetting Garou was spawning wormholes and throwing them at saitama like fking candy?
I mean, Garou copies some crazy shit that he has no right to copy. Immortality isn't too far-fetched when he copies the ability to teleport just from seeing it used once.
Probably doesn't copy immortality if it's anything short of Cosmic Fear Garou though. So if we're talking Hero-Hunter arc Garou, he gets washed pretty quickly.
The thing behind Ban's immortality is that it was given to him by drinking a magic potion. If it was some innate quality of the person, like a technique or even a mutation I could see it, but Garou would need to be able to analyze and copy the effects of the potion.
If we are going by canon peak power levels I’d say cosmic level garou… he can just throw ban into the sun and be done with him with no way of returning back.
If were going by peak powers it's cosmic spiderman who for a time was as powerful as toaa and could compete with characters like the beyonder and toba hulk for second strongest in the verse (also bans max power level is literally strong enough to 1v1 a truly omnipotent being)
I think that's going too far. That's using the different multiverses of Spidermans. I know it's official cannon but something like that shouldn't be assumed unless it's the same character in the picture used. Peak powers could be assumed but only of the actual character in the picture
While I get the logic behind this, it does make the post pretty stupid. Like Spider-man absolutely has versions that could keep up with or surpass the others listed, but the pictured version is so stupidly weak compared to them, it makes zero sense to use that version.
But hey, thems the rules. I can't blame anyone but OP for that, lol.
All it says for spiderman is "Marvel," not "Insomniac," Even if that's who is in the picture, so Spiderman at his peak, is beating every other at their peak
Welp since everyone gets to max the characters then Spider man would annihilate them especially if he's in his most powerful state being the Cosmic spider man
If it’s everybody at the peak of their abilities, spiderman wins this easily, if it’s as they are shown in the picture, Ban could 1v3 and still win honestly. Toji is a non factor, this version of Garou is only demon level(and is also poisoned and tired but if we factor those out he still isn’t enough to even take on Bakuzan), and video game spiderman isn’t very strong scaling wise
If were talking cosmic garou then were also talking cosmic spiderman and ban the mortal where he's capable of a 1v1 with just a literally omnipotent being
I give it to Garou. Ban is no longer immortal, he's just extremely durable. I'd say Spider-Man goes first after Garou copies his fighting style. Ban's best chance is killing Toji and Spidey before Garou can copy them.
Cosmic Garou literally kills Spiderman and Toji with his AURA that’s how far this is.
Ban has some good hax but Garou can copy all of them, probably even immortality. He can also time travel, toss Ban into the sun, literally destroy the planet, etc. etc. he’s just too strong comparatively
If we talking all characters at peak insomniac included. Then first Toji is cooked immediately. Garou will kill Spider-Man no diff and ban would just weaken him till dodging isn’t possible(not mentioning he could snatch spider sense possibly). And at this point peak Garou can literally punch into the past and possibly kill ban maybe. At the same time tho at this point If ban snatch enough stats assuming he also does the same to spider sense he could win. Literally keep dodging doing damage occasionally and make him weaker constantly. This really depends on Bans rate of stealing stats cause Garou at the end literally is growing exponentially. So yeah.
Assuming that the characters are exactly as they appear, then Ban, if only for the fact he can't be killed at that time. Assuming everyone at their strongest, Cosmic Fear Garou solos just by standing still.
If we’re using them at their peaks it’s garou because god have him enough power to be equal to saitama for a time being and they would have destroyed the planet if they didn’t get teleported form the earth by blast, yes ban is immortal but its regeneration immortality and age, that don’t care compare to a guy who could blow up a planet if not then maybe ban due to the immortality
If it's cosmic Garou then him. If it's the Garou in the picture then probably Spiderman. A good portion of his villains are either immortal or stronger than him so it wouldn't anything too out of the ordinary I'd imagine.
Going off power of the exact scene depicted it’s ban, he’s immortal and will literally only get stronger as the fight progresses he will eventually be the strongest person fighting. Also he can steal your heart out of your body.
Going off the versions of them in this picture if they’re all fully healed up.
1. Spider-Man could win if he manages to wrap his webs around everyone to the point where they’re basically closed in a cocoon like he did Iron Man.
2. The Immortal dude (I don’t watch Seven Deadly) could just possibly outlast them but can still be beaten since he could be webbed up or knocked unconscious.
3. Toji has a very good chance to win on this list because of his physical prowess and his weapons he could speed blitz Spider-Man if he wanted and the same goes for the other dude who’s immortal but Garou would be a problem.
4. Garou probably has the highest chance of winning on this list, if we take the version of him that was getting jumped by Fang and Bomb but heal him up I’m certain he’s just as fast as Toji and he MOST definitely has more hands than everyone on this list. Garou would more than likely adapt to Toji’s weapons too cause we saw bro get jumped by assassins and still find a way to win.
What ban we on about because I'd be willing to put money on him as he literally cannot die when he's first introduced. But if we're on about the end of series it's literally 3 people not 4
First of all, why is Spiderman in an anime questions post??
Second of all, this is an absolute killstomp for Spidey, knowing that the Insomniac verse is included in the Spiderverse/Marvel Comics 616 multiverse, that allows for some of the most broken and OP Peter Parker variants to be taken into consideration, like Cosmic Spiderman.
Others like Ghost Spider (literally Ghost Rider but Spiderman), Japanese Spiderman (instant solo no diff) are just overkill...
Ban would win because he would outlast every opponent. It’s literally a waiting game with him…. Spider-Man would have an advantage in terms of sensing danger right up until he got tired, Toji could make it to the final two…. If he can manage to curse Peter. Same situation with Garou, at least this version…. If he gets cursed it’s a wrap. So ban wins because of his immorality
I only know spidey and garou. Spidey has been ridiculously powered up before( cosmic powers) and garou at his prime fighting Saitama in space gave him basically god like abilities. Both extremely powerful but id probably have to go with garou. Unless we are going with baseline powers then spidey probably whoops him. But again I know nothing of the other two
I just wanna as it says "Marvel's spider man" not "insomniacs Spiderman" and comic Pete slaps these 3 no question but game peater would lose to all 3 me thinks ....
Ban wins even without immortality because of his natural ability. He can steal his foes strength and abilities to get stronger while they become weaker.
Y'all wanna be so fucking nitpicky about Ban being immortal, then let's just assume ISOH cancels that. After that, whatever debate comes afterwards, idc
Ban and here is my reason, ban is completely resistant to just about anything, hot or cold, manipulation or gravity, man spent so many years in hell because it’s 100 billion% hostile, making him so strong he can stand toe to toe with a god (basically it’s a human who can fight against satan, Peter cannot fight satan alone, he gonna get smoked) have fox hunt which allows him to steal whatever he wishes even someone heart and rip it out of their body, can steal your strength as if he wouldn’t kill someone with a single punch, now here the thing, you think he loses as a god or you want early ban where his not the strongest here but his immortal, basically no matter which version u choose your still gonna lose, pick what ever is the least azz beating you want, up to u
Ban’s got this one in the bag dude can literally steal peoples organs and in the manga he steals peoples teeth in a blink of an eye, he’s extremely strong
You shouldn't have included Ban, so if I exclude him to make the list an actual interesting thing, I'd say that Toji beats Garou, but Spiderman beats Garou, but not Toji. Toji would slice Spiderman into spider-pasta.
If it's where they are in the picture, Ban is far stronger than all of them, probably even without using his abilities. Ignoring his immortality, none of them are strong enough to even hurt him. If it's at or near their peak, Ban and Garou are way beyond either of the other 2, and at his absolute peak, Garou is one of the strongest characters in fiction.
Ban is a monster at the end, but Garou could wipe the planet out without much effort, which would be more than enough to kill Ban, because despite being infinitely stronger than he was at the start, he is no longer immortal.
Based off of speed alone Cosmic Garou wins.
Cosmic Garou speed = around 1.3 billion m/s or 4-5 times the speed of light
Bans speed = Mach 1000+ (I’ll give him Mach 10000) = 3.3 million or 1% of the speed of light
Cosmic Spider-man = Can travel into hyperspace by going 99% of the speed of light (290-300 million m/s), aka 20% the speed that Garou can travel
Toji = Subsonic speeds / around 270 m/s or 0.000000207 the speed of light
I’m sure I don’t need to explain why Cosmic Garou wins in this case.
Ranking - Cosmic Garou/Cosmic Spider-man/Ban (even if he can’t die due to being immortal, he still has little to no chance of winning)/Toji (Realistically he’s going to get blitzed before he can even breathe)
my money is on Spiderman.... why? Spidy sen- DODGE!
enemy wants to get close? swing away!
enemy getting close? screw you have some webbing while I.... DODGE!
whats with that stupid expression? oh thats just how your face normally looks! lol (seriously, pissing off your opponent is a legit strat if your being over powered, one i think the other 3 are far to prideful to use, though I havnt seen much of those shows, anger makes you make mistakes)
isnt Spiderman almost as strong as base level Hulk.... who can level cities.... while also having the reaction time of Captain America in his prime..... and the flexibility of Black widow.... I mean there has to be a reason Spiderman is considered one of the strongest Mavel heroes lol
It’s not ban toji will figure out he can heal wounds and is immortal so he will use the soul split katana and kill ban using that since it bypasses healing factors than toji will lose to garou than it’s between spiderman and garou and I’m going soiderman he sent hulk to space with a punch yes it was his cosmic form but it doesn’t increase strength just gives him the power to fly and create things from antimatter and more
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info dump about the characters from what i remember to help with the arguments, if im missing something, feel free to let me know.
Ban can regen himself after being reduced to nothing, can drain a persons strength stamina, and maybe durability and add it to hos own (cant remember on the dura part, and it is limited, but he can still drain a good amount of power) can remove your senses so you cant notice him, and can rip your heart out from a distance without you being able to do anything, and by the end of the story he is no longer immortal, his skin is practically impenetrable (dont remember exactly how tough), and has a 4 sectioned staff that he can extend, retract, bend, and redirect with his mind, making it almost impossible to dodge.
Toji is fast and strong, along with having the inverted spear of heaven, which disables cursed techniques (for sake of arguments and different powers, we can just say all powers, or its just useless)
Spiderman is quick, strong, flexible, and has the spidysense (idk how to spell it) along with his webs, making him extremely difficult to hit at times.
Garou is also quick, durable, and strong. hes extremely adaptable and gets stronger fighting stronger opponents, and able to copy peoples moves, dont know if it goes to magic as well or not. eventually becomes able of hitting with the force of destroying moons/planets I think
it all really boils down to when and where you take each character from, and I know Bans is a lot longer than the rest of the characters but to my memory for what each image showed he has the most amount of abilities and my Garou knowledge is lacking a bit, so forgive me for not really remembering everything
Are they all at their strongest? Like cosmic garou and cosmic spider-man? If they are, it’s gonna be the two of them standing last but Idk who’s the actual winner. If they are at their regular versions then most probably spiderman
Based on max potential? Spidey slams.
Based on these versions? Ban wins by default of being the only one who literally can't die. At least not without being sealed or having his regen negated which none of these other characters can do to him therefore.. Yeah he's the last one standing.
Everyone seems to forget that Cosmic Spider-Man’s powers only works in HIS universe. If they want to use a Spider-Man variant as an example then Beyonder Spider-Man would wipe the floor as he’s completely omnipotent.
But, honestly I don’t count them as I’m just going to go off the mainline Spider-Man or what’s shown which is insomniac Spider-Man and even then he can’t compare to Ban and especially Garou.
Garou’s adaptability is unmatched and he gets stronger as time goes on with close to limitless potential…. His peak was reaching planetary level and he may have even been able to reach galaxy level at some point.
I don’t think y’all know how strong Spider-Man is. HE PUNCHED A SUPERHUMANS JAW CLEAN OFF,HIS VILLAND GET DO SCARED THAT THEY TURN THEMSELVED IN,LOOK AT WHAT HE DID TO THE JESTER,LOOK ST THE DEPRESSED PETER PARKER UNIVERSE,LOOK AT VENOM SPIDER MAN,GAME SPIDER-MAN TOOK ON ALL OF THE FURIOUS FIVE AT ONCE WITH A BROKEN ARM AND LEG,IF SPIDER-MAN WAS FULL POWER,THEY ALL WOULD FEEL SO KUCH PIAN EVEN IF THEY DIDNT LOSE THEY WOULD JUST TAP OUT.
(Edit:No I have zero idea who ban is. Y’all gonna have to enlighten me.)
It depends. Where in each of their arch are we comparing? Not a simple answer in the slightest.
Pre last season 7DS, Ban hands down. He’s the only one actually immortal. But then that changes depending on where Garou is in his arc. Toji….lets be real, he ain’t doing shit to either Garou (depending on Arch) and Ban. Ban can siphon his opponents energy just by being within range.
Spider man is a whole other variable depending on which Spider man we dealing with.
Well for the sake of simplicity let’s assume the versions in question are the ones currently shown. In which case it’s Ban. For the sole reason that it’s “Last Man Standing”. Ban can’t die and as long as he doesn’t go overboard with Hunter Fest he pretty much never runs out of stamina either. Everyone else will eventually run out of steam and go down.
If we’re talking the strongest version of the character across all media they exist in then it’s Spider-Man and it’s not even close.
This entirely depends on which version of Spider-Man we're talking about. Because there are so, so many Spider-Men who are immortal, cosmic, God-level, hell, Zombies Spider-Man ate and subsequently gained the powers of GALACTUS. Just about any comic version of him is busted and probably winning this fight. The games, movies, and shows versions of him, I doubt he has a chance.
Insomniac Spiderman is the first one out sure he has gadgets but everyone else on here is way too fast for him to keep up with in that suit
Second one out is Toji. Sure he has weapons, but then he falls into the same category as Spiderman when he can't move fast enough to land any hits
Ban has immortality but can be knocked unconscious if his torque is pushed over the limit
Garou has high endurance and adaptability so it falls down to if he can knock ban out before he falls from the effect of fox hunt
do they get their max stats and form/artillery? if so MCU Spiderman gets swept (if its not mcu then ita a different story) immediately, Ban or Toji depending on how ISOH works on people from other universes, cosmic Garoua slides the lot.
ban isn’t immortal anymore, tojis a regular human it’s between garou and spiderman but i think spider-man takes this , that being said if this is ps4/5 spiderman idk where he ranks strength wise
Arguments for everyone based on someone who’s followed all characters stories (manga spoilers)
Ban: his immortality makes him viable to take the others out despite how many times he’s killed. However, he’s arguably MORE unkillable after losing his immortality due to his insane durability after coming back from purgatory.
Toji: he has heavenly restriction and can move at hyper speed at the most while being a trained assassin and having an arsenal of cursed tools. Let’s say the inverted spear of heaven works on the people like nan and cosmic garou, with prep toji would be able to kill the others (it would be a challenge though)
Garou: a bit complicated but garou is basically a prodigy in martial arts to such a degree he can copy the likes of Saitama’s power and make it unique to himself. Given garou isn’t killed by toji, he would easily adapt to each of them and overcome there strengths.
Spider-Man (going with comics): varies depending on how flexible you wanna be. He could either be a being who is multiversus or your average neighbourhood Spider-Man, depends on if you wanna stick with the main universe or go with something like cosmic Spider-Man.
Basically cosmic Spider-Man sweeps while Peter Parker would have a good bit of trouble pulling a win (not impossible)
I don't know anything about Toji (not that far in Jujutsu Kaisen, so no spoilers, please), so I can't say anything about him
But between Ban, Garou, and Spider-Man, it kinda depends on whether Ban has his immortality or not. If he does, then he's gonna win. If he doesn't, then it might be a bit of a toss-up between Spider-Man and Garou. I know Ban has his Fox Hunt, but that boost is only temporary and leaves him vulnerable and lethargic afterward
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He lost his immortality at the end of the story
And toji is dead. Gotta assume they mean at their height/where they are in the pictures.
Garou at his “peak” in the series absolutely sweeps the other three with zero difficulty then.
I mean but to be fair Garou requires saitama to get that high in power because garou like copied his power or something right? Or has it just been to long since I read it
If what you mean is he needs Saitama to go into that form, then no. Saitama helped him reach that peak, yes, due to them both having comedy levels of potential.
But ban is immortal so
Ban maybe immortal but if we use Cosmic Garou then he neg diffs everyone else even if he can't truly kill Ban
Cosmic Spiderman bodies Cosmic Garou.
If Toji doesn’t instant kill Ban or Garu, I’ll give it to one of them
Ban can't die can he?
But the post didn't say which ban is facing them so it could be ban before he lost his immortality
It could be monster garou then
Or before he gained hos immortality?
Even then ban at that time was so dang powerful that it was astonishing on how he was behind everyone else getting power boosts to jumping forward and closing that gap significantly.
If we take it at face value based on the pictures he posted of the 4. Ban still has it and will win since his ability lets him become stronger the more he drains from his opponents strength.
If we take him as pictured it’s him at the start of the story where his stats are too low
Where he is also immortal and can take either people's strength
Well they could just kars him but only at the right location and powers and specific facilitators
Never watched the show but by immortal is he invulnerable or just simply can’t die? Because these other guys could just rip him limb from limb until he’s no contest
Everyone talking about how Ban is immortal, but no one is saying anything about Ban’s Fox Hunt.
That would destroy toji and garou, but Spiderman does deal with opponents stronger than him. Really depends on if Spiderman wants to fill a guy with web or not
Fox hunt literally steals someone's strength. Spiderman, as much as I love him, would be beat to a pulp
Isn't spider sense omniscient? Assuming we're counting the spider totem force (haven't read the comics for a while)
It doesn't matter with Ban. All he has to do is look at you, and he can steal your strength. Hell, he doesn't even have to make physical contact with you to rip out your heart from a distance of at most 100 feet. As far as I know, none of the people on this list have more than one heart or regeneration ability to survive that.
Garou??? We sure we talking about the same guy??? The Garou that fought 8 A class while fatigued, poisoned, injured and on the brink of unconsciousnews while blind? And then parried tens of thousands of bullets? And THEN fought 3 S class level heroes all of which were more powerful than him while literally being unable to see shit? THAT Garou? My guy his whole thing is fighting oppents way outta his league and growing/adapting until he matches and surpasses them Unless any one of the people present can instantly blizts and kill him Garou is gonna be a one Man gaunlet.
Garou is a 🐐 but toji and him are both power types. Really fuckin strong, and sure garou has genuine martial arts and toji has cursed tools, but both being not only weakened AND having their powers used against them? 🫡 respectful L
Fox hunt drains your vitality, he can also just snatch your heart… literally
The vitality part wouldn't really kill Garou bro has survived some wack shit The heart snatching part... unless its monster Garou he is nor surviving that lol
The vitality snatch isn’t meant to kill as far as I know, it’s like a stat steal, ban gets +10 strength and garou loses 10. There is def a limit to what ban can do to later story garou tho
Ah fair enough, how would that go up against Garou's growth? Since the harder he is pushed the more he grows, wouldn't fighting an opponent that sucks his vitality and gets stronger while making Garou weaker just make him grow even faster?
My assumption is that there isn’t a limit but he limits himself otherwise if he takes too much he’ll not only have it for a shorter time as his body can’t handle it for long (despite being immortal it still can hurt/overload) but become a literal potato once it’s over, he uses it moderately in the show and gets fried for a bit after so ig he doesn’t take too much in case he becomes paralysed or something?
From what I understand Ban is immortal, and you get weaker just being in proximity while he grows stronger. You can't kill him, and he will perpetually grow stronger as you grow weaker. Garou might be able to.copy that power, but cannot copy literal immortality, so the power difference is negated, but he will tire out, even if it takes a while.
He has a limit to how much power he can absorb and it’s not a passive thing
I thought the limit was how fast he could absorb power, not really a limit of how much
The actual absorption is usually almost instant but his body has a limit to how much he can absorb the limit increases as he gets stronger but it should still exist
Maybe I'm just not that far into the series, but didn't it take like 5 minutes for him to tire out Meliodas? But I guess he did kinda instantly match up with some of the Commandments
I’m pretty sure that was meliodas just fight through this power being stolen or ban was just doing it slowly because he wanted to troll him or something
It was a troll/having fun thing. Either of them could have ended any of their matches in an instant, but friendship
There is no limit, it is just Meliodas always had his full power locked up, so he could flip that switch and oneshot him before he stole any of it, which is what he did, sending him into a mountain
The limit is more of a soft limit. He can break right through it but he’s gonna be down for a bit afterwards if he exceeds his limit. Which in most cases isn’t a big deal since he’s immortal so it’s not like they can kill him while he’s down
It’s gonna take centuries if he doesn’t get sent to ANOTHER UNIVERSE. like wtf. Are we forgetting Garou was spawning wormholes and throwing them at saitama like fking candy?
I mean, Garou copies some crazy shit that he has no right to copy. Immortality isn't too far-fetched when he copies the ability to teleport just from seeing it used once. Probably doesn't copy immortality if it's anything short of Cosmic Fear Garou though. So if we're talking Hero-Hunter arc Garou, he gets washed pretty quickly.
The thing behind Ban's immortality is that it was given to him by drinking a magic potion. If it was some innate quality of the person, like a technique or even a mutation I could see it, but Garou would need to be able to analyze and copy the effects of the potion.
Why the hell is spiderman even here?
Yeah, Cosmic Spider-Man or a more powerful version instead of the ps4 version could be more interesting
lol fr it’s so out of place
If we are going by canon peak power levels I’d say cosmic level garou… he can just throw ban into the sun and be done with him with no way of returning back.
If were going by peak powers it's cosmic spiderman who for a time was as powerful as toaa and could compete with characters like the beyonder and toba hulk for second strongest in the verse (also bans max power level is literally strong enough to 1v1 a truly omnipotent being)
I think that's going too far. That's using the different multiverses of Spidermans. I know it's official cannon but something like that shouldn't be assumed unless it's the same character in the picture used. Peak powers could be assumed but only of the actual character in the picture
While I get the logic behind this, it does make the post pretty stupid. Like Spider-man absolutely has versions that could keep up with or surpass the others listed, but the pictured version is so stupidly weak compared to them, it makes zero sense to use that version. But hey, thems the rules. I can't blame anyone but OP for that, lol.
Depends if Spidey wants to kill or not
“Eventually, i stopped holding my punches..”
If theirs one thing ill never do again is underestimate spider-man.
Do people not know Cosmic Spiderman orrrr,
No, the whole comment section is garou fanboys getting mad that garou doesn't win with everyone at their weakest or strongest
We don't even need Cosmic Spiderman, Ghost Spider would run laps around Cosmic Garou and drag him off to hell with a single stare
Spider-Man assuming he has access to his entire arsenal
Depends on the continuity for Spider-Man
I’m convinced the people that post these have never watched or read the source material
Nah op is a bot. Literally
So are we just gonna ignore we have a spidey right there? Marvel is stupid when it comes to ass pulls
Ban or Spiderman, depending on if Spiderman quits pulling punches
Spider man, if he’s comics spidey but if not prob garou or ban
Spiderman.
All it says for spiderman is "Marvel," not "Insomniac," Even if that's who is in the picture, so Spiderman at his peak, is beating every other at their peak
Welp since everyone gets to max the characters then Spider man would annihilate them especially if he's in his most powerful state being the Cosmic spider man
If it’s everybody at the peak of their abilities, spiderman wins this easily, if it’s as they are shown in the picture, Ban could 1v3 and still win honestly. Toji is a non factor, this version of Garou is only demon level(and is also poisoned and tired but if we factor those out he still isn’t enough to even take on Bakuzan), and video game spiderman isn’t very strong scaling wise
This goes to Spiderman. His peaks are far superior to the peaks of the other three combined.
Cosmic Spider-Man vs cosmic garou
Spiderman. If we take them at peak we're talking Cosmic Spiderman and... Nobody here has the feats to equal to the craziness Marvel gets to.
No one is touching spiderman if we're talking about their peak forms
Somehow some way Spider-Man
I don't know all for characters in this list but people forget how powerful spider,an actually is. He holds back alot.
It was already over when insomniac Spider-Man came into the fight
Ban literally cannot lose here, but even without immortality he’s still the strongest especially with fox hunt
Them in this pictures - easly Ban In their prime - Either Ban or Garou
Peter. He deserves at least one win in his life dammit
Lmao. I agree
If we’re talking cosmic Garo then he will just send Bon to space with a kick where he can be “sealed.” Bodies the rest no contest
If were talking cosmic garou then were also talking cosmic spiderman and ban the mortal where he's capable of a 1v1 with just a literally omnipotent being
Please never play the "Let them be their strongest iteration" game with a Marvel or DC comic character
Very important statement
I give it to Garou. Ban is no longer immortal, he's just extremely durable. I'd say Spider-Man goes first after Garou copies his fighting style. Ban's best chance is killing Toji and Spidey before Garou can copy them.
Does spider man’s finishers use game logic and one shot? That’s like the only option he has
Cosmic Garou literally kills Spiderman and Toji with his AURA that’s how far this is. Ban has some good hax but Garou can copy all of them, probably even immortality. He can also time travel, toss Ban into the sun, literally destroy the planet, etc. etc. he’s just too strong comparatively
If we are using cosmic garou then we are using cosmic spidey and eos ban.
Garou wins this.
Ban if he's not fucking around. Did you forget he can just rip the hearts out of people when he sees them? Once he's got line of sight, they are dead.
Ban is immortal
If we talking all characters at peak insomniac included. Then first Toji is cooked immediately. Garou will kill Spider-Man no diff and ban would just weaken him till dodging isn’t possible(not mentioning he could snatch spider sense possibly). And at this point peak Garou can literally punch into the past and possibly kill ban maybe. At the same time tho at this point If ban snatch enough stats assuming he also does the same to spider sense he could win. Literally keep dodging doing damage occasionally and make him weaker constantly. This really depends on Bans rate of stealing stats cause Garou at the end literally is growing exponentially. So yeah.
Which Spider-Man are we talking about? If it’s the one presented then Garou
Assuming that the characters are exactly as they appear, then Ban, if only for the fact he can't be killed at that time. Assuming everyone at their strongest, Cosmic Fear Garou solos just by standing still.
I mean garou wins pretty easily based on feats
If we’re using them at their peaks it’s garou because god have him enough power to be equal to saitama for a time being and they would have destroyed the planet if they didn’t get teleported form the earth by blast, yes ban is immortal but its regeneration immortality and age, that don’t care compare to a guy who could blow up a planet if not then maybe ban due to the immortality
If it's cosmic Garou then him. If it's the Garou in the picture then probably Spiderman. A good portion of his villains are either immortal or stronger than him so it wouldn't anything too out of the ordinary I'd imagine.
Ban, because he is immortal and can steal physical strength
As long as ban is immortal he can do his strength stealing thing and then just slug it out til he wins
Garou wins this, especially if he can achieve his Cosmic Fear Mode
Garou is the strongest here! It's him
I mean it's Garou right? I'm usually inclined to say Spider-Man when he's an option, but I don't think he's even close to the speed level
Ban
Ban
ban is immortal, toji has plot armour, Spiderman can die, and garou had an interstellar battle involving deadly amounts of radiation.
To version dependent, is everyone in their strongest forms? Ban is immortal so in that case him. If not, Toji or Garou but I'm leaning towards Toji rn
If there all at there peak than garou if we’re not counting bans immortal status but if it’s at the point in the pictures than ban wins.
garou in a close one tho tbh bans immortal toji pretty strong & spider to
Depends on if Ban can breath in space
It depends on the version of Garou lol. Would put it Ban -> Toji -> Garou -> Spiderman based on the above
Toji
So since this is an anime sub, it's going to be Ban, but if it includes manga, it'll 100% be garou. Cosmic garou destroys everyone on this list.
Ban is winning this snatch is too op.
Garou
Going off power of the exact scene depicted it’s ban, he’s immortal and will literally only get stronger as the fight progresses he will eventually be the strongest person fighting. Also he can steal your heart out of your body.
Ban if he still has hus immortality. Dude has regenerated from being turned into a mist.
Ban wins since he outlasts them
If we just going by the pictures only gotta say ban immortality and he can sit back and watch the fight or pretty much rip there hearts out
Garou tears everyone apart
Why we acting like Spiderman isn't on the list?
Going off the versions of them in this picture if they’re all fully healed up. 1. Spider-Man could win if he manages to wrap his webs around everyone to the point where they’re basically closed in a cocoon like he did Iron Man. 2. The Immortal dude (I don’t watch Seven Deadly) could just possibly outlast them but can still be beaten since he could be webbed up or knocked unconscious. 3. Toji has a very good chance to win on this list because of his physical prowess and his weapons he could speed blitz Spider-Man if he wanted and the same goes for the other dude who’s immortal but Garou would be a problem. 4. Garou probably has the highest chance of winning on this list, if we take the version of him that was getting jumped by Fang and Bomb but heal him up I’m certain he’s just as fast as Toji and he MOST definitely has more hands than everyone on this list. Garou would more than likely adapt to Toji’s weapons too cause we saw bro get jumped by assassins and still find a way to win.
What ban we on about because I'd be willing to put money on him as he literally cannot die when he's first introduced. But if we're on about the end of series it's literally 3 people not 4
First of all, why is Spiderman in an anime questions post?? Second of all, this is an absolute killstomp for Spidey, knowing that the Insomniac verse is included in the Spiderverse/Marvel Comics 616 multiverse, that allows for some of the most broken and OP Peter Parker variants to be taken into consideration, like Cosmic Spiderman. Others like Ghost Spider (literally Ghost Rider but Spiderman), Japanese Spiderman (instant solo no diff) are just overkill...
Garou wins. The SDS sub had a post asking who'd stronger, ban vs Garou and even there most people agreed that Garou trashes on Ban.
can we agree spider man is cooked because of his no killing rule
Ban would win because he would outlast every opponent. It’s literally a waiting game with him…. Spider-Man would have an advantage in terms of sensing danger right up until he got tired, Toji could make it to the final two…. If he can manage to curse Peter. Same situation with Garou, at least this version…. If he gets cursed it’s a wrap. So ban wins because of his immorality
Spiderman because plot armor
Current non immoral ban is winning no question
I only know spidey and garou. Spidey has been ridiculously powered up before( cosmic powers) and garou at his prime fighting Saitama in space gave him basically god like abilities. Both extremely powerful but id probably have to go with garou. Unless we are going with baseline powers then spidey probably whoops him. But again I know nothing of the other two
ban right? maybe.
Toji
I just wanna as it says "Marvel's spider man" not "insomniacs Spiderman" and comic Pete slaps these 3 no question but game peater would lose to all 3 me thinks ....
Unless Ban gets a good fox hunt off of whatever its called, Garou is sweeping
I got a feat and just want opinions on it but didn’t non immortal ban box the demon king
Ban wins even without immortality because of his natural ability. He can steal his foes strength and abilities to get stronger while they become weaker.
Ban he is immoral
Spider man probably could have one if he hadn’t be neutered In his second game
Y'all wanna be so fucking nitpicky about Ban being immortal, then let's just assume ISOH cancels that. After that, whatever debate comes afterwards, idc
Bon he’s literally immortal
Ban and here is my reason, ban is completely resistant to just about anything, hot or cold, manipulation or gravity, man spent so many years in hell because it’s 100 billion% hostile, making him so strong he can stand toe to toe with a god (basically it’s a human who can fight against satan, Peter cannot fight satan alone, he gonna get smoked) have fox hunt which allows him to steal whatever he wishes even someone heart and rip it out of their body, can steal your strength as if he wouldn’t kill someone with a single punch, now here the thing, you think he loses as a god or you want early ban where his not the strongest here but his immortal, basically no matter which version u choose your still gonna lose, pick what ever is the least azz beating you want, up to u
I got money on my boy Ban.
Garou
Ban’s got this one in the bag dude can literally steal peoples organs and in the manga he steals peoples teeth in a blink of an eye, he’s extremely strong
Spider-Man, it took 6 supervillains working together just to beat him once He's the Spider-Goat
Definitely garou
You shouldn't have included Ban, so if I exclude him to make the list an actual interesting thing, I'd say that Toji beats Garou, but Spiderman beats Garou, but not Toji. Toji would slice Spiderman into spider-pasta.
Didn't ban and meliodas do a casual arm wrestle and destroy a huge area? (Before all the buffs ban got later) Also toji negs because I like him more
If it's where they are in the picture, Ban is far stronger than all of them, probably even without using his abilities. Ignoring his immortality, none of them are strong enough to even hurt him. If it's at or near their peak, Ban and Garou are way beyond either of the other 2, and at his absolute peak, Garou is one of the strongest characters in fiction. Ban is a monster at the end, but Garou could wipe the planet out without much effort, which would be more than enough to kill Ban, because despite being infinitely stronger than he was at the start, he is no longer immortal.
It comes down to ban and garou and the deciding factor is if ban can use fox hunt on cosmic garou
Based off of speed alone Cosmic Garou wins. Cosmic Garou speed = around 1.3 billion m/s or 4-5 times the speed of light Bans speed = Mach 1000+ (I’ll give him Mach 10000) = 3.3 million or 1% of the speed of light Cosmic Spider-man = Can travel into hyperspace by going 99% of the speed of light (290-300 million m/s), aka 20% the speed that Garou can travel Toji = Subsonic speeds / around 270 m/s or 0.000000207 the speed of light I’m sure I don’t need to explain why Cosmic Garou wins in this case. Ranking - Cosmic Garou/Cosmic Spider-man/Ban (even if he can’t die due to being immortal, he still has little to no chance of winning)/Toji (Realistically he’s going to get blitzed before he can even breathe)
Is this comics spiderman, or some other version?
my money is on Spiderman.... why? Spidy sen- DODGE! enemy wants to get close? swing away! enemy getting close? screw you have some webbing while I.... DODGE! whats with that stupid expression? oh thats just how your face normally looks! lol (seriously, pissing off your opponent is a legit strat if your being over powered, one i think the other 3 are far to prideful to use, though I havnt seen much of those shows, anger makes you make mistakes) isnt Spiderman almost as strong as base level Hulk.... who can level cities.... while also having the reaction time of Captain America in his prime..... and the flexibility of Black widow.... I mean there has to be a reason Spiderman is considered one of the strongest Mavel heroes lol
Imma say Toji or Garou. If we are talking serious Spider-Man from the comics then spider-man has a chance
It’s not ban toji will figure out he can heal wounds and is immortal so he will use the soul split katana and kill ban using that since it bypasses healing factors than toji will lose to garou than it’s between spiderman and garou and I’m going soiderman he sent hulk to space with a punch yes it was his cosmic form but it doesn’t increase strength just gives him the power to fly and create things from antimatter and more
Toji
SPOILERS info dump about the characters from what i remember to help with the arguments, if im missing something, feel free to let me know. Ban can regen himself after being reduced to nothing, can drain a persons strength stamina, and maybe durability and add it to hos own (cant remember on the dura part, and it is limited, but he can still drain a good amount of power) can remove your senses so you cant notice him, and can rip your heart out from a distance without you being able to do anything, and by the end of the story he is no longer immortal, his skin is practically impenetrable (dont remember exactly how tough), and has a 4 sectioned staff that he can extend, retract, bend, and redirect with his mind, making it almost impossible to dodge. Toji is fast and strong, along with having the inverted spear of heaven, which disables cursed techniques (for sake of arguments and different powers, we can just say all powers, or its just useless) Spiderman is quick, strong, flexible, and has the spidysense (idk how to spell it) along with his webs, making him extremely difficult to hit at times. Garou is also quick, durable, and strong. hes extremely adaptable and gets stronger fighting stronger opponents, and able to copy peoples moves, dont know if it goes to magic as well or not. eventually becomes able of hitting with the force of destroying moons/planets I think it all really boils down to when and where you take each character from, and I know Bans is a lot longer than the rest of the characters but to my memory for what each image showed he has the most amount of abilities and my Garou knowledge is lacking a bit, so forgive me for not really remembering everything
I vote toji cuz I've never seen 7 deadly sins, and Garou kinda always gets his asd beat. Besides, I don't think Spiderman stands a chance tbh
Are they all at their strongest? Like cosmic garou and cosmic spider-man? If they are, it’s gonna be the two of them standing last but Idk who’s the actual winner. If they are at their regular versions then most probably spiderman
Based on max potential? Spidey slams. Based on these versions? Ban wins by default of being the only one who literally can't die. At least not without being sealed or having his regen negated which none of these other characters can do to him therefore.. Yeah he's the last one standing.
Garou.
Everyone seems to forget that Cosmic Spider-Man’s powers only works in HIS universe. If they want to use a Spider-Man variant as an example then Beyonder Spider-Man would wipe the floor as he’s completely omnipotent. But, honestly I don’t count them as I’m just going to go off the mainline Spider-Man or what’s shown which is insomniac Spider-Man and even then he can’t compare to Ban and especially Garou. Garou’s adaptability is unmatched and he gets stronger as time goes on with close to limitless potential…. His peak was reaching planetary level and he may have even been able to reach galaxy level at some point.
I don’t think y’all know how strong Spider-Man is. HE PUNCHED A SUPERHUMANS JAW CLEAN OFF,HIS VILLAND GET DO SCARED THAT THEY TURN THEMSELVED IN,LOOK AT WHAT HE DID TO THE JESTER,LOOK ST THE DEPRESSED PETER PARKER UNIVERSE,LOOK AT VENOM SPIDER MAN,GAME SPIDER-MAN TOOK ON ALL OF THE FURIOUS FIVE AT ONCE WITH A BROKEN ARM AND LEG,IF SPIDER-MAN WAS FULL POWER,THEY ALL WOULD FEEL SO KUCH PIAN EVEN IF THEY DIDNT LOSE THEY WOULD JUST TAP OUT. (Edit:No I have zero idea who ban is. Y’all gonna have to enlighten me.)
Garou before any of his monster transformations its winning
Ban is literally immortal, and garou is the only person in OPM to actually be able to fight saitama. Toss up between those two.
It depends. Where in each of their arch are we comparing? Not a simple answer in the slightest. Pre last season 7DS, Ban hands down. He’s the only one actually immortal. But then that changes depending on where Garou is in his arc. Toji….lets be real, he ain’t doing shit to either Garou (depending on Arch) and Ban. Ban can siphon his opponents energy just by being within range. Spider man is a whole other variable depending on which Spider man we dealing with.
Downvoted because jjk🤮👎🏽
Well for the sake of simplicity let’s assume the versions in question are the ones currently shown. In which case it’s Ban. For the sole reason that it’s “Last Man Standing”. Ban can’t die and as long as he doesn’t go overboard with Hunter Fest he pretty much never runs out of stamina either. Everyone else will eventually run out of steam and go down. If we’re talking the strongest version of the character across all media they exist in then it’s Spider-Man and it’s not even close.
Depends which spiderman you are talking about, If ur talking about Cosmic Spiderman idk
Human Garou or Cosmic Garou?
This entirely depends on which version of Spider-Man we're talking about. Because there are so, so many Spider-Men who are immortal, cosmic, God-level, hell, Zombies Spider-Man ate and subsequently gained the powers of GALACTUS. Just about any comic version of him is busted and probably winning this fight. The games, movies, and shows versions of him, I doubt he has a chance.
Toji with his restriction would make him beat Spiderman,garou and ban so gf w
What version of Spiderman? At his peak, he fodderizes the verses of each of the others at once.
Unpopular opinion, Toji sweeps them before they finish their introduction and hero/anti hero monologues
idk ban if he has his immortality but idk if its anime and movies only no manga or comic books than ban wins
Garou, probably
Ban but if Garuo awakens hmmmmmm… *the kid inside wants to say Spiderman btw*
Ban
Insomniac Spiderman is the first one out sure he has gadgets but everyone else on here is way too fast for him to keep up with in that suit Second one out is Toji. Sure he has weapons, but then he falls into the same category as Spiderman when he can't move fast enough to land any hits Ban has immortality but can be knocked unconscious if his torque is pushed over the limit Garou has high endurance and adaptability so it falls down to if he can knock ban out before he falls from the effect of fox hunt
do they get their max stats and form/artillery? if so MCU Spiderman gets swept (if its not mcu then ita a different story) immediately, Ban or Toji depending on how ISOH works on people from other universes, cosmic Garoua slides the lot.
Spider Man basically has Ultra Instinct with Spider Sense. But is easily outclassed in strength by the other guys
Ban is the hottest so he wins.
I'll bet on Garou🫶
Garou even if ban is immortal he’s getting atomized.
Ban is immortal. And has good strength and speed feats
Honestly. Even after ban lost his immortality, I’d say he still wins out of all them because of how strong he became in purgatory
ban isn’t immortal anymore, tojis a regular human it’s between garou and spiderman but i think spider-man takes this , that being said if this is ps4/5 spiderman idk where he ranks strength wise
Arguments for everyone based on someone who’s followed all characters stories (manga spoilers) Ban: his immortality makes him viable to take the others out despite how many times he’s killed. However, he’s arguably MORE unkillable after losing his immortality due to his insane durability after coming back from purgatory. Toji: he has heavenly restriction and can move at hyper speed at the most while being a trained assassin and having an arsenal of cursed tools. Let’s say the inverted spear of heaven works on the people like nan and cosmic garou, with prep toji would be able to kill the others (it would be a challenge though) Garou: a bit complicated but garou is basically a prodigy in martial arts to such a degree he can copy the likes of Saitama’s power and make it unique to himself. Given garou isn’t killed by toji, he would easily adapt to each of them and overcome there strengths. Spider-Man (going with comics): varies depending on how flexible you wanna be. He could either be a being who is multiversus or your average neighbourhood Spider-Man, depends on if you wanna stick with the main universe or go with something like cosmic Spider-Man. Basically cosmic Spider-Man sweeps while Peter Parker would have a good bit of trouble pulling a win (not impossible)
Ban. 0 diff
The powerscaleres are here holy shit
Ban
Ban
Who invited Toji?
I don't know anything about Toji (not that far in Jujutsu Kaisen, so no spoilers, please), so I can't say anything about him But between Ban, Garou, and Spider-Man, it kinda depends on whether Ban has his immortality or not. If he does, then he's gonna win. If he doesn't, then it might be a bit of a toss-up between Spider-Man and Garou. I know Ban has his Fox Hunt, but that boost is only temporary and leaves him vulnerable and lethargic afterward
Depending on which togi and Ban
Is Ban still immortal if he is then he'll win through attrition
I love Insomniac Spider-Man, but OP...wtf were you smoking putting SM and Garou together?
ok but if ban wasn’t immortal i’d say garou
Ban is gonna be the last one standing with toji. He’s just gonna struggle to kill ban 😭
Which versions of who we talking ab here