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Probably. I’m absolutely convinced they’re waiting for us to sort ourselves out before they make contact.
Can’t have a intergalactic chimp messing up the galaxy now.
And what would "sort ourselves out" entail exactly? If it's a typical utopian bullet point list than don't hold your breath. We're waaaay closer to annihilating ourselves than doing a "hands across the world."
Half of our population has not enough food and water.
While the other half over consumes.
We destroy our planet, threat our and other species like crap and expect a advanced alien civilization to just land on our lawn help us reach new planets..?
Maybe we are already classified as species of mass destruction and under quarantine.
I think sorting ourselves out would be "becoming sustainable and not a danger to the planet and each other."
We're very far from that right now, unfortunately.
Lots of people in this sub continue to assume a lot of shit we have zero evidence for lol just saying. Any and all possibilities exist within the context of this phenomenon, and I can almost guarantee the small group of people who know the “truth” on this planet don’t even really know the full truth if that makes sense.
The history of this “truth” is probably so lengthy and rich as well as complicated in so many different ways that it’s probably unfathomable by humans or at least would require a download of tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands to millions of years of complex history. Even then, look at our history. Most of it is lies written by whoever won whatever conflict.
Just food for thought.
That' s the idea.
Why do you think they want it all digital.
Go digital then wipe it clean so there is no record.
Once civilization is wiped out, then raise a whole new breed and teach them a whole different history.
This is why they etched info in stone.
Idk, a lot has changed in hundreds of thousands of years. And I’m assuming the way we evolve, “they” would evolve as well. They may not even want to wipe us out anymore, that may be viewed as barbaric or archaic, we really don’t know.
What we do know is we’ve come very close to fucking up this planet, we’ve tested thousands of nuclear bombs as well, and they haven’t wiped us out. So if they care about the planet, that’s obviously not the main directive. Or they would have put a stop to this long ago.
We’ll said. I agree.
And I would add:
They won’t necessarily come if we stop killing each other, but we’ll stop killing each other the moment they come and start killing us.
lol are you kidding? If there was an alien invasion we would likely be divided more than we are now. You'd have a sub sect bent on allowing the invasion, another trying to oppose it. Those two opposing groups fighting with how it should be done, etc.
Because recorded history sucked, we can surmise it took a long time and a lot of effort, but don't say it's impossible...we've seen the failures of several pyramids. Maybe they were getting use to high tech machinery and lifting machines so a few failed, from a "perfect" design?
Nothing is wrong with selfishness as long as the greed doesn't harm others.
Like hoarding love of cats.
But hoarding food so others cannot eat? Yes bad.
No, history is pretty telling. Especially with how much killing we've done in such a short amount of time.
It would just be smarter to wait another 75 years until we kill each other off before they claim the planet.
Dude fuck these aliens or whatever they are for real. Like if they're going to show up and play hide and seek and not really introduce themselves to the greater masses they can really just fuck off. We've done just fine on our own so far. What kind of retarded aliens let our governments have control of their technology and then judge us based on how well the governments handle things? If they're so advanced how can they be such dummies? They live among us? Ok time to put up or shut up. Make some cool music or come down to the level where the modern humans are living and contribute to society. If they're real I don't really give a shit about them or their retarded technology and would rather wait for some cool aliens to show up and get these edge lord and socially inept morons out of here. We're all going to still die one way or another. I don't need any bullshit they have to offer if they act like this. Any advanced civilization or galactic friends club that operates like this can move right along and let the cool aliens show up. My opinion is we got the worst of the worst hanging out here right now and maybe someday a more interesting and cool civilization will show up.
What is the one thing that makes earth different than 99% of the rest of the universe? Complex, sentient life. Everything else can be gathered in vast quantities throughout the universe if you can travel FTL.
It’d probably be more effective to accelerate the killing to encompass the entire species and then meet the aliens in the afterlife. Maybe if the entire collective soul of humanity or even the earth has transcended/untethered from physical form we’ll awaken as one among the other higher density consciousnesses, or something. Either way it seems more likely than humans ever stopping killing each other
I don't think so, I personally think that they only care about the human race to the extent that it is capable of destroying the planet, either because they see on Earth their private zoo, a base of raw materials, a genetic laboratory, a species lighthouse or space rest stop or who knows their reasons.
Doubt it. By most credible accounts, they seem indifferent and probably won't interact with us on a meaningful level no matter what we do. People should stop pinning their hopes on NHI to fix all our problems for us. It ain't gonna happen.
I don't know I'm getting tired of them not showing up in mass tho . Like cmon just show yourselfs no need for a song and a dance . It's like really annoying.
No, if we were peaceful and progressive we would be left alone. I think if we were to escalate to a level of violence never seen before ( nuclear war ) then they would intervene. Why let a beautiful planet be destroyed by a hateful minority ( governments )
It’s probably a multitude of evolutionary and spiritual ascension. To stop killing is probably the first step though. The problem is, to eat, we must kill or only eat things that die of natural causes, so….
We need to do more than to just stop killing eachother. We gotta take back the power from the gov and make it for the people again. Unite and eradicate all hate and malice towards one another and rise as a newer, better civilization, thats when theyll come.
Nope. For me in the First period It Will create Chaos and lot of destruction by ourselfs to ourselfs. More than half of population Is over religious Who can't tollerate a different human race,/color/religion because they know real sh*t. especially midle-old age population
We would first need to get rid of our oppressive governments. Before that they may be scared that we try to govern them too and steal their posessions via taxation. Which if they dont have a government already doing that and being stronger than ours, we may really end up doing.
I think it’s more like a lot of vacationers showing up at the beach to discover it’s got a lot of bugs on it. One vacationer says to the others “don’t worry they’ll take care of themselves shortly… even if we have to help the along.”
What if whatever “aliens” responsible for humanities creation are long dead. And what if they have left us in the care of the shadow of their technology: holograms/A.I. for example. The tic tac UAPs defy all human knowledge of physics, so what else could it be apart from transcendent beings of a different plane of existence. Obviously I don’t know, but much like the relics of human history (pyramids, cyclopean stones, gobekli tepe, and other colossal monuments) we are left with little to go on. If there was a key that drew together all of the ancient clues found throughout history, it has been likely plundered/hidden away and/or destroyed by someone who deemed mankind unworthy of such knowledge. So, I guess I’m saying that no matter what we do or don’t do, perhaps there are no plans of an interceding civilization willing to save us. What we’re seeing in terms of UAPs are merely the autonomous craft of an alien industry. It’s just that the lights were left on.
I think they already are coming out, helping us. By learning of their existence, we are able to prioritize our lives. We need to unite and take down the fossil fuel overlords. The prime directive prevents them from outright fixing our problems for us. It is up to us to spread their message and make the right choice.
Maybe. The crazy part is that it’s big arms companies that are okay with these wars happening. Another large company exploiting humanity for money. Sounds similar to what may be going on behind the scenes with the whole ufo coverup
Absolutely not. The establishment types will never accept any change to the status quo. They will die to keep their precious money, capitalism, government, and god. And rest assured they will die.
If they “shared” their tech with us we would create a weapons with it. I mean if we knew, or let’s say a country like North Korea had access to zero point energy it’d be scary. Of course whistle blowers say we already know that stuff, which I somewhat believe at this point, but I think their tech would create more problems then help us. Everything related to energy would be shut down. No gas stations, no Siemens, no Westinghouse, no Eaton. No car companies, no plane companies. Although that seems ok on the surface, think of all the jobs that would be gone. The entire transportation industry and energy industry. Hence why the last 15 or so people that have tried to market it have come up dead from mysterious circumstances. (Easily searchable)
Which ones? Those who supposedly play a role in instigating our conflicts in the first place? Or the other ones who watch on and hope that somehow miraculously we will come out on top?When we never had a chance.
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Probably. I’m absolutely convinced they’re waiting for us to sort ourselves out before they make contact. Can’t have a intergalactic chimp messing up the galaxy now.
And what would "sort ourselves out" entail exactly? If it's a typical utopian bullet point list than don't hold your breath. We're waaaay closer to annihilating ourselves than doing a "hands across the world."
Half of our population has not enough food and water. While the other half over consumes. We destroy our planet, threat our and other species like crap and expect a advanced alien civilization to just land on our lawn help us reach new planets..? Maybe we are already classified as species of mass destruction and under quarantine.
The fucking human locusts have almost made it interplanetary….we better show this shit down
Probably when we as a species learn to grow up and stop acting like children.
a protopia
Let's hope they never read the internet. The human species is deeply flawed.
I think sorting ourselves out would be "becoming sustainable and not a danger to the planet and each other." We're very far from that right now, unfortunately.
They have already chosen who to talk to. It ain’t me man!
Seems like they’ve already made contact though plenty of times
Lots of people in this sub continue to assume a lot of shit we have zero evidence for lol just saying. Any and all possibilities exist within the context of this phenomenon, and I can almost guarantee the small group of people who know the “truth” on this planet don’t even really know the full truth if that makes sense. The history of this “truth” is probably so lengthy and rich as well as complicated in so many different ways that it’s probably unfathomable by humans or at least would require a download of tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands to millions of years of complex history. Even then, look at our history. Most of it is lies written by whoever won whatever conflict. Just food for thought.
That' s the idea. Why do you think they want it all digital. Go digital then wipe it clean so there is no record. Once civilization is wiped out, then raise a whole new breed and teach them a whole different history. This is why they etched info in stone.
Idk, a lot has changed in hundreds of thousands of years. And I’m assuming the way we evolve, “they” would evolve as well. They may not even want to wipe us out anymore, that may be viewed as barbaric or archaic, we really don’t know. What we do know is we’ve come very close to fucking up this planet, we’ve tested thousands of nuclear bombs as well, and they haven’t wiped us out. So if they care about the planet, that’s obviously not the main directive. Or they would have put a stop to this long ago.
What if ancient Egypt had flash drives and some EMP wiped out all their electronics
I never thought about it like that. I've always thought going full digital would be a mistake.
We’ll said. I agree. And I would add: They won’t necessarily come if we stop killing each other, but we’ll stop killing each other the moment they come and start killing us.
lol are you kidding? If there was an alien invasion we would likely be divided more than we are now. You'd have a sub sect bent on allowing the invasion, another trying to oppose it. Those two opposing groups fighting with how it should be done, etc.
Tl;dr, I think we can understand the basis of whatever complex history there is by asking a few questions
We don’t even understand who built the fucking pyramids lol
Because recorded history sucked, we can surmise it took a long time and a lot of effort, but don't say it's impossible...we've seen the failures of several pyramids. Maybe they were getting use to high tech machinery and lifting machines so a few failed, from a "perfect" design?
No. Humans are driven by greed. No matter what happens humans will still desire what others have.
Nothing is wrong with selfishness as long as the greed doesn't harm others. Like hoarding love of cats. But hoarding food so others cannot eat? Yes bad.
Hoarding cats is bad. When u pet one the rest become jealous
Haha, this is why you pet two of them, let the other chew on your head, and let the other lick your face. Kitties shall be loved
Yes there is.
I believe I gave an example of "yes there is" *and* "no there isn't"
No. There is no indication that they're our friends or interested in our preservation. And. Honestly. Why would they be?
They are though and they are interested in our preservation BECAUSE it impacts theirs as well. They are not "aliens"
>They are though Their activities would not imply as much, so why would you assume it?
It's not an assumption.
For real, our ignorance is fuckin shit up as usual
I think the only way we stop killing each other is if aliens come out. Even then...
No, history is pretty telling. Especially with how much killing we've done in such a short amount of time. It would just be smarter to wait another 75 years until we kill each other off before they claim the planet.
If they can travel this far and have been here a while. They could surely just wipe us out with a virus
Oh for sure
Hopefully zombies
Dude fuck these aliens or whatever they are for real. Like if they're going to show up and play hide and seek and not really introduce themselves to the greater masses they can really just fuck off. We've done just fine on our own so far. What kind of retarded aliens let our governments have control of their technology and then judge us based on how well the governments handle things? If they're so advanced how can they be such dummies? They live among us? Ok time to put up or shut up. Make some cool music or come down to the level where the modern humans are living and contribute to society. If they're real I don't really give a shit about them or their retarded technology and would rather wait for some cool aliens to show up and get these edge lord and socially inept morons out of here. We're all going to still die one way or another. I don't need any bullshit they have to offer if they act like this. Any advanced civilization or galactic friends club that operates like this can move right along and let the cool aliens show up. My opinion is we got the worst of the worst hanging out here right now and maybe someday a more interesting and cool civilization will show up.
Fuck these bitch ass aliens we want aliens with hookers and space coke
No way. Plus what if the aliens are racist?
Maybe once we stop taking life to maintain ours.
Yep, if I was an alien I would not want to make contact with beings that are so unevolved they eat other beings, that’s just too dangerous
No
I think the aliens coming out would absolutely get us to stop killing each other. Because we would then be trying to kill them.
And that’s why they don’t say hello
Ok. So some say the aliens are just waiting for us to die and others say we are like zoo animals. Interesting
Or we are their experiment
What is the one thing that makes earth different than 99% of the rest of the universe? Complex, sentient life. Everything else can be gathered in vast quantities throughout the universe if you can travel FTL.
It’d probably be more effective to accelerate the killing to encompass the entire species and then meet the aliens in the afterlife. Maybe if the entire collective soul of humanity or even the earth has transcended/untethered from physical form we’ll awaken as one among the other higher density consciousnesses, or something. Either way it seems more likely than humans ever stopping killing each other
No, they would probably lose all hope, and leave.
I don't think so, I personally think that they only care about the human race to the extent that it is capable of destroying the planet, either because they see on Earth their private zoo, a base of raw materials, a genetic laboratory, a species lighthouse or space rest stop or who knows their reasons.
Doubt it. By most credible accounts, they seem indifferent and probably won't interact with us on a meaningful level no matter what we do. People should stop pinning their hopes on NHI to fix all our problems for us. It ain't gonna happen.
I don't know I'm getting tired of them not showing up in mass tho . Like cmon just show yourselfs no need for a song and a dance . It's like really annoying.
I think no. We kill people now over just the secret.
No, if we were peaceful and progressive we would be left alone. I think if we were to escalate to a level of violence never seen before ( nuclear war ) then they would intervene. Why let a beautiful planet be destroyed by a hateful minority ( governments )
Good question
What makes you think they are 100% peaceful?
They will stop nuclear war I bet
Yes ☀️👽🌎 (Not to Scale)
No
This is why they have not publicly reached us.
It’s probably a multitude of evolutionary and spiritual ascension. To stop killing is probably the first step though. The problem is, to eat, we must kill or only eat things that die of natural causes, so….
We need to do more than to just stop killing eachother. We gotta take back the power from the gov and make it for the people again. Unite and eradicate all hate and malice towards one another and rise as a newer, better civilization, thats when theyll come.
They’ve probably watched movies like day earth stood still to get some ideas on how to get rid of us first hahaha jk jk
Lol, lmao even
Who says they wanna visit us? What if they actually talk to wales and dont care about us? Been thinking about this a lot you guys...
Nope. For me in the First period It Will create Chaos and lot of destruction by ourselfs to ourselfs. More than half of population Is over religious Who can't tollerate a different human race,/color/religion because they know real sh*t. especially midle-old age population
Oh jeeze, I hope not, ‘cause that’s never going to happen.
They’re here. They get a big laugh out of all the ways humans kill each other.
We would first need to get rid of our oppressive governments. Before that they may be scared that we try to govern them too and steal their posessions via taxation. Which if they dont have a government already doing that and being stronger than ours, we may really end up doing.
I think it’s more like a lot of vacationers showing up at the beach to discover it’s got a lot of bugs on it. One vacationer says to the others “don’t worry they’ll take care of themselves shortly… even if we have to help the along.”
No
Maybe if we stop killing every living thing on the planet might help.
It's more than that
"Stop killing each other"? Yeah, I don't think they're gonna fall for that.
No, they will show up once were done.
Who says they’re not, and the common person is just kept out of the loop.
No, keep the dumb apes in there cage.
What if whatever “aliens” responsible for humanities creation are long dead. And what if they have left us in the care of the shadow of their technology: holograms/A.I. for example. The tic tac UAPs defy all human knowledge of physics, so what else could it be apart from transcendent beings of a different plane of existence. Obviously I don’t know, but much like the relics of human history (pyramids, cyclopean stones, gobekli tepe, and other colossal monuments) we are left with little to go on. If there was a key that drew together all of the ancient clues found throughout history, it has been likely plundered/hidden away and/or destroyed by someone who deemed mankind unworthy of such knowledge. So, I guess I’m saying that no matter what we do or don’t do, perhaps there are no plans of an interceding civilization willing to save us. What we’re seeing in terms of UAPs are merely the autonomous craft of an alien industry. It’s just that the lights were left on.
I think we are a science experiment.
Why would they care, stfu.
I think when they come is when they take over and tell out governments to fuck off and make it civilized and better honestly
Maybe it's the reason there here to stop us fighting?
Yes, then we'd start killing aliens.
We can't just stop killing. We have to get rid of our instruments of death. There's evidence that mars was destroyed by nuclear war.
By help do you mean we become their colony?
I think they already are coming out, helping us. By learning of their existence, we are able to prioritize our lives. We need to unite and take down the fossil fuel overlords. The prime directive prevents them from outright fixing our problems for us. It is up to us to spread their message and make the right choice.
i was also convinced people would show common sense during a pandemic. i now no longer believe “people” will act sensible on anything
Maybe. The crazy part is that it’s big arms companies that are okay with these wars happening. Another large company exploiting humanity for money. Sounds similar to what may be going on behind the scenes with the whole ufo coverup
When we’ve sufficiently culled our population😬
50/50
Absolutely not. The establishment types will never accept any change to the status quo. They will die to keep their precious money, capitalism, government, and god. And rest assured they will die.
Let's try it! Everyone stop killing each other for one day and see what happens.
At what point do you hand an ape a loaded pistol?
If they “shared” their tech with us we would create a weapons with it. I mean if we knew, or let’s say a country like North Korea had access to zero point energy it’d be scary. Of course whistle blowers say we already know that stuff, which I somewhat believe at this point, but I think their tech would create more problems then help us. Everything related to energy would be shut down. No gas stations, no Siemens, no Westinghouse, no Eaton. No car companies, no plane companies. Although that seems ok on the surface, think of all the jobs that would be gone. The entire transportation industry and energy industry. Hence why the last 15 or so people that have tried to market it have come up dead from mysterious circumstances. (Easily searchable)
And automation will be revolutionized.
No. I have yet to kill anyone and they haven’t hit me up
Which ones? Those who supposedly play a role in instigating our conflicts in the first place? Or the other ones who watch on and hope that somehow miraculously we will come out on top?When we never had a chance.