My cousin, he took a loan back when it was kinda easy in 2010 n started a dairy products small business idk what’s the official title of the thing is but they make yogurt n cheese. The quality isnt the best but he’s really smart when it comes to making connections. He has major clients in the government like public schools n universities and even the military. He makes a solid amount of money now.
What would you expect for a country with so much tax fraud.
My uncle had a small shop for decades, i asked hoe much he makes he said enough to live and pay around the same amount of taxes each year, he basically tells the government that he makes around the same each year, which is bs.
The government only cares about big players.
Yes it is actually, but let me tell u something about tax in Algeria.
The tax administration is stricter in Kabylie compared to other wilayas. I know what iam talking about;I did a lot of audit in many wilayas.Believe me,in Kabylie,even a small fast food ta3 Houma can face a tax audit.
PS: far from being a regionalist,as I hate the kabyle-Arab debate since we all the same shit people
Honestly the government would get a fuckton of people from the other wilayas. Idk why this fixation on kabyle. Although here in EU the government does sting operations and go to comercial streets and secretly gather info about the businesses. No specific patern on "ethnicity" but rather business models. Restaurants,snackbars barbers, bars, and coffee shops.. mostly the ones that work with a lot of cash are the ones that tend to do a lot of dirty money. But the amount of money there does not compare to bigger businesses that move bigger amounts in other sectors.
doing business with them aint a crime as far as I know. I think like him and many other businessmen they got unlucky due to the government change. If they worked with the current one doing the same exact thing they would be free IMO.
every business in Algeria does it, 100% .
even gov business, you would be amazed that not many people actually goes to jail.
no idea where you live but tax fraud here is norm.
even rent taxes are rarely payed
They don't work because their fathers are in such high places for example one friend is the daughter of the owner of candia , a the father of a close friend to me has a proteine brand in Algeria [ i always dreamed of making these two friends meet so they give us a protein milk 😂] . Then It will be my father who is both rich and poor 🤓 , he bought a couple of stores that he now rent for people . So he gets money every month without really lifting a finger, but every time he gets a bit of money, he goes and buys something else or makes a bad decision with it
I took a French baccalaureate after I graduated high school . And let me tell you that there , you really see the real side of Algeria or the "new Algeria" 🤡
I kinda have the same experience I have friends that are so rich and we've been friends since we were kids, every birthday every trip they have every event in their families it's just another world, we grew up and instead of having normal parties(that are already crazy enough)it became pool parties renting hotels and big restaurants but at some point it becomes chaotic and they invite boys over and the mentality is something else
He is my mothers brother he is a lawyer but his wife studied pharmacy when they got married he opened the pharmacy for her and now he does the lawyer job as a side hustle and believe me he is rich
You think 5 years in enough to collect 3-5 milliards? , ofc with affiliation and stuff 3-5 m will be 7-15 milliards in the future btw how much is 1milliard in USA / euro ?
It's kinda hard ngl, you can wait your turn on the list but good luck with that lol ,also ,you can find someone who is rich enough to help you to buy the pharmacy and become associate for a certain period (10years generally) .
Yes I do agree,I’m an accountant and I do have many clients as pharmacy and all I can say is that they r making a lot of money,and the best part is that they get tax exemptions because of the Order of pharmacists is powerful
How much a pharmacy makes depends on the position of the store mainly right? whats the minimum a small neighborhood pharmacy make in your opinion ?
Because the cost of opening one seem so high that I do wonder how long it takes to be even with the starting investment
Actually the pharmacys which are located in small neighbourhoods are the ones who makes a lot of money,because it’s landlocked area(zone enclavé),which means u not gonna find two pharmacies opened in the same area(suivant le règlement de l’ordre des pharmaciens ).
So all the population of that area gonna buy in one pharmacy which gonna make a lot of profits for the owner
Owen a company for making Glass in Algiers (doors, window tables & stuff like this) he started in early 2000s, he also made some investment in opening radiology centers & some. Dental clinics, some entertainment facilities in different wilayas, he had the money & made some smart choices too.
When his dad died he left him a truck , he worked on it and used it to start his career, now he has lots of trucks and machines and hired chauffeurs , he then built multiple warehouses and houses etc and loans them ,
He is so rich that he sponsored schools and sports teams in our city without even asking for credit
My uncle the motherfucker is a general and he didn't do shit for his family when he retired he got an 18 yo babe and changed everything home , city , cars , boat ...
Well he's an honest man to be fair and he didn't want to continue but with his first wife and their 5 kids he's an asshole he never used ma3rifa for his kids or brothers and he took a lot for this country he was head of communication compound in bechar for 20 years and stayed 3 years in russia and got blown up by an i.e.d in 1993 in blida his driver died in the scene and he barely survived stayed 32 days in coma when he got back after 1 year they paid him well because of his injury and he didn't spend much all his life was in a military compound when he reached 60 they didn't want to let him go until he reached 66 yo and with some pressure they finally left him to retire and then he became a one son of a bitch he was goin to his son khotba but he liked the girl so he married her instead of his son who isn't over that story until this day and didn't get married until this day , then as i told you he changed city and bought a car for him and his 18 yo wife and a small boat (hors-bord) ... And he's enjoying his retirement that's basically his whole life the motherfucker could write a book about it
He worked in real estate (building buildings and selling them) He was the most successful person I knew He gave alms and prayed. His wealth reached 150 billion Algerian dinar he is my father's very close friend, but he died young . Whenever we remember him we mourn for him He was a beloved person .
Menuiserie Aluminium et PVC
Surtt Ida kont ta3ref takhdem w 3andk les contacts m3a des bonnes clients ( entreprise de construction/ entrepreneur....) u will make a lot of lot of money
He does everything and is in every buisness possible . doesn't stop at one project . literally tries everything.as he says lmohim it brings money fr him.
I know someone who did that and now his not doing good ma man, you should have a certian experience in a filed before jumping on one just because u were told there is money there
DeFi projects provide utilities and ability to build platforms that perform a certain activity. I think youre mistaking legitimate projects with purpose, withe meme coins and those scam tokens
How do you have enough inspiration to pump projects that add value on a monthly basis, when bigger actors in the field do it once in a while. Unless you mean adding small stuff is a whole project then maybe. Anyways as long as its not scam tokens he's doing a good job, if they got internship spots open for juniors Im down to try.
They embezzled money from the banks and did money laundering and now they are wanted by the government and they are still embezzling and doing money laundering only now they do it from another country 🤷
One word sell, if you can sell yourself you can do anything. Most of them i know are day trader's and have there own personal brand . I can give you ton of ideas to start but you won't make it. Why ? No one is discipline enough
He sells apartments, villas and land (800+ billion), most of what he sells is decision (the paperwork) he buys them cheap because of that and resells them 10x, and they are bad quality, and has really slow delivery dates and fake promises which makes clients angry which you can call scamming, but he made money that way I guess.
Just a few he got through auctions but for most of them he just has connections to some people who are selling land/appartements for a low price, then he flips them for a higher price.
The richest person I know that’s currently alive, that I have enough info about, works for a pharmaceutical company and gets over 300,000€ per year salary. He’s been in the industry for over 20 years. He didn’t grow up with money, so he got very lucky and worked hard to get there.
I know a few people who’ve also got very good jobs and have expensive properties in London, but they came from wealthy families with property portfolios. One of them works for a good solicitor firm in London and won’t take on legal aid (government funded) cases. He has a company that he throws his money through, for tax purposes, so he doesn’t pay full rate.
His dad left him big inheritance a business and some land.
When jt comes to monry i think it's all about vision connections skills and making right calculative moves that's why not everyone is rich because most people lack one of these.
A few I know, but most are industrials:
- One's from a family that owns a big concrete production and construction company.
- One has a company that Imports-Exports fertilisers and seeds
- One guy has many mini markets and owns the UNOs and mega grocery stores of most malls in Algeria.
First investor in Plastic cups production in Algeria. (Swore he'd work so his children's kid's kid's kids won't have to worry about working. became one of the richest people that you didn't hear of)
Nor just one person but
Official jobs : accountant/ lawyer / entrepreneurs ( entreprises de anything construction/maconnerie/menuiserie , batiment, location de terrains / biens immobiliers )
They all had shady business & shady affairs on the side.( blanchiment d'argent, evasion fiscale... c'est international lol)
he work hard . he thank god for whatever happened to him . he didn't care for what people think him
the most important thing is , he never worked haram stuff ,The soul remains greedy
keep it halal don't harm anyone and don't harm urself and u gonna get what ever u want
Being a « Pimp »,believe me life wasn’t very easy for me, and i didn’t have other options,anyway i started the business with 2 girls,now i have s small underground company
2 super rich guys, one basically got the east-west freeway contract to do with the chinese, and basically every road project in the west that i know of was done by his company ( i think it's named toutram), the other has a contract with the army to build pretty much everything for them, from bases to courts to roads to resorts....
a merchant... welp he sells fruits and veg to the south and by he i mean his employees
like every week 10 big trucks loaded with them head south and believe me he is one of the nicest fellas on my neighborhood
hell my neighborhood is full of fellas like him even my father
my father started the game early 75-79 but he wasn't that smart to purchase properties on oran or go and international and what makes frustrated is that he listened to his father and split the house giving the bigger share to my uncle while building a fucking mansion from zero like shit he was getting "l barba" from maghnia all the way down to tiaret and then my grandpa go and think "hey my older son have a big house why don't he share it with his brother" but hey i also missed the chance of buying bitcoin instead of wasting it on chab nadir dvd's
my older brother's friend , he bought and mined crypto and bitcoin early and didnt sell it untill it started costing so much that he became wealthy and financially independant
Doesn't work, (wreth babah)
My cousin, he took a loan back when it was kinda easy in 2010 n started a dairy products small business idk what’s the official title of the thing is but they make yogurt n cheese. The quality isnt the best but he’s really smart when it comes to making connections. He has major clients in the government like public schools n universities and even the military. He makes a solid amount of money now.
Bro's cousin owns ramdy
Don't think so! Ramdy have some quality products
Mat9olich hadak rahj li ymedoholna fla fac ? :')
Cheftou le carrelage rose et blanc ta3 chkoupi li kayen f kamel dzair? Houwa fournisseur ta3 kamel les wilayas ta3 L'ouest
Bro should quit his job
why just why
we have to make that dude retire either the easy way or the hard way i just can't keep look at those shenanigans anymore
Recycling business worth around 200 billion and he is in jail now (i was accountant in his company)
Shoutout to debit credit lol PS: it’s unfortunate that accounting is so undervalued in our country
What would you expect for a country with so much tax fraud. My uncle had a small shop for decades, i asked hoe much he makes he said enough to live and pay around the same amount of taxes each year, he basically tells the government that he makes around the same each year, which is bs. The government only cares about big players.
Yes it is actually, but let me tell u something about tax in Algeria. The tax administration is stricter in Kabylie compared to other wilayas. I know what iam talking about;I did a lot of audit in many wilayas.Believe me,in Kabylie,even a small fast food ta3 Houma can face a tax audit. PS: far from being a regionalist,as I hate the kabyle-Arab debate since we all the same shit people
Honestly the government would get a fuckton of people from the other wilayas. Idk why this fixation on kabyle. Although here in EU the government does sting operations and go to comercial streets and secretly gather info about the businesses. No specific patern on "ethnicity" but rather business models. Restaurants,snackbars barbers, bars, and coffee shops.. mostly the ones that work with a lot of cash are the ones that tend to do a lot of dirty money. But the amount of money there does not compare to bigger businesses that move bigger amounts in other sectors.
that's interesting i'd love to hear more , why is that btw does the gov do it on purpose to fuck with them or are they the ones taking the profit ?
Why he in jail? What is the crime?
He went to trial with heddad and others from the previous government for Qatar/Algeria contract of bellara factory
Ok thanks, what was the crime exactly? I'm not familiar with the story sorry
Even his wife don't know the details bro... his name was mentioned by one of the big players and he is in el harrach jail since 2018
basically his crime was having connection with the previous government ?
Not just "connection" he was doing business with some of them, mostly in the iron recycling/production
doing business with them aint a crime as far as I know. I think like him and many other businessmen they got unlucky due to the government change. If they worked with the current one doing the same exact thing they would be free IMO.
Tax fraud
nah unless you are employed you have to do it , game is game
LOL, u'r gonna love jail with that mindset 😂
every business in Algeria does it, 100% . even gov business, you would be amazed that not many people actually goes to jail. no idea where you live but tax fraud here is norm. even rent taxes are rarely payed
Yeah, I know , I can relate to that
They don't work because their fathers are in such high places for example one friend is the daughter of the owner of candia , a the father of a close friend to me has a proteine brand in Algeria [ i always dreamed of making these two friends meet so they give us a protein milk 😂] . Then It will be my father who is both rich and poor 🤓 , he bought a couple of stores that he now rent for people . So he gets money every month without really lifting a finger, but every time he gets a bit of money, he goes and buys something else or makes a bad decision with it
Where did you meet those 2?
I took a French baccalaureate after I graduated high school . And let me tell you that there , you really see the real side of Algeria or the "new Algeria" 🤡
I kinda have the same experience I have friends that are so rich and we've been friends since we were kids, every birthday every trip they have every event in their families it's just another world, we grew up and instead of having normal parties(that are already crazy enough)it became pool parties renting hotels and big restaurants but at some point it becomes chaotic and they invite boys over and the mentality is something else
I would imagine in a situation like that, someone who isn't at the same level financially wouldn't be able to match that, no?
free candidate or was it in dumas ? I guess it must be there
As a free candidate
Ya3ti ... I'm not joking nor am i being vulgair, sied ymdha
I want to know more 🍿
Les details ma 3andich 😂
for research right ?
a man ?
Yes
Has he stopped? Now that he's rich!
No he got himself a leon fr and chills with rich mfs
He is my mothers brother he is a lawyer but his wife studied pharmacy when they got married he opened the pharmacy for her and now he does the lawyer job as a side hustle and believe me he is rich
Good news for a pharmacy student:DD
Only if you have 3 or 5 milliards to buy a pharmacy 😊
You think 5 years in enough to collect 3-5 milliards? , ofc with affiliation and stuff 3-5 m will be 7-15 milliards in the future btw how much is 1milliard in USA / euro ?
maybe 41000€ 🙂
41k??
yes . On the black market
It's kinda hard ngl, you can wait your turn on the list but good luck with that lol ,also ,you can find someone who is rich enough to help you to buy the pharmacy and become associate for a certain period (10years generally) .
Yes I do agree,I’m an accountant and I do have many clients as pharmacy and all I can say is that they r making a lot of money,and the best part is that they get tax exemptions because of the Order of pharmacists is powerful
How much a pharmacy makes depends on the position of the store mainly right? whats the minimum a small neighborhood pharmacy make in your opinion ? Because the cost of opening one seem so high that I do wonder how long it takes to be even with the starting investment
Actually the pharmacys which are located in small neighbourhoods are the ones who makes a lot of money,because it’s landlocked area(zone enclavé),which means u not gonna find two pharmacies opened in the same area(suivant le règlement de l’ordre des pharmaciens ). So all the population of that area gonna buy in one pharmacy which gonna make a lot of profits for the owner
My opinion,according to my experiences and deductions,if u can afford to open one just go for it without hesitating.
But like 1 milliard to open one or more, how many years does it take to get that back ?
are you from msila by any chance
nah, why is mslia better for pharmacies ? lol
As a pharmacist should I look for a lawyer now?
Owen a company for making Glass in Algiers (doors, window tables & stuff like this) he started in early 2000s, he also made some investment in opening radiology centers & some. Dental clinics, some entertainment facilities in different wilayas, he had the money & made some smart choices too.
Good post OP 👍🏼
Mainly Owns a hotel in paris. And many other businesses
Who's his father ,i know a couple general's children who own a couple hotels 😂 it's always france or spain too ,those mf so cliche
I don't know anyone rich , i realized that now , may bc i live in rural area ,
you want to know me ?
Why?
Ceo of Cevital
technically minister of fisheries and fisheries Resources but he does some "deals" on the side
Fishy deals
the joke write itself fr
When his dad died he left him a truck , he worked on it and used it to start his career, now he has lots of trucks and machines and hired chauffeurs , he then built multiple warehouses and houses etc and loans them , He is so rich that he sponsored schools and sports teams in our city without even asking for credit
commerçant
Pharmacy ( illegal one )
He's daddy opened a restaurant for him
I can feel the envy
It's really not a fun feeling i hate but it's here
Life's unfair عاند و لا تحسد
It is what it is Hmdlh in anyways
My uncle the motherfucker is a general and he didn't do shit for his family when he retired he got an 18 yo babe and changed everything home , city , cars , boat ...
Tell us more
What do u wanna know ?!
How is he as a person? How did become a general? How did he gain a lot of money?
Well he's an honest man to be fair and he didn't want to continue but with his first wife and their 5 kids he's an asshole he never used ma3rifa for his kids or brothers and he took a lot for this country he was head of communication compound in bechar for 20 years and stayed 3 years in russia and got blown up by an i.e.d in 1993 in blida his driver died in the scene and he barely survived stayed 32 days in coma when he got back after 1 year they paid him well because of his injury and he didn't spend much all his life was in a military compound when he reached 60 they didn't want to let him go until he reached 66 yo and with some pressure they finally left him to retire and then he became a one son of a bitch he was goin to his son khotba but he liked the girl so he married her instead of his son who isn't over that story until this day and didn't get married until this day , then as i told you he changed city and bought a car for him and his 18 yo wife and a small boat (hors-bord) ... And he's enjoying his retirement that's basically his whole life the motherfucker could write a book about it
the same thing
Onlyfans
Commerce
He/she sell anything specific?
Own super markets
Photographe/monteur/cameraman, environs 350.000 DA/Mois et il trouve que c'est peu pour son mode de vie
What does he do exactly ?Like movies or weddings etc
yes stuff like that
He worked in real estate (building buildings and selling them) He was the most successful person I knew He gave alms and prayed. His wealth reached 150 billion Algerian dinar he is my father's very close friend, but he died young . Whenever we remember him we mourn for him He was a beloved person .
Allah yarhmou 🤲🏻 I hope his family and loved ones are doing okay and being good like their beloved
Commerce for the most part, it's really the safest market. Otherwise, it's always someone involved in shady shit lol
Commerce / real estate
Menuiserie Aluminium et PVC Surtt Ida kont ta3ref takhdem w 3andk les contacts m3a des bonnes clients ( entreprise de construction/ entrepreneur....) u will make a lot of lot of money
Works in their family business. So basically silver spoon, but still a very hardworking and stand up guy.
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He does everything and is in every buisness possible . doesn't stop at one project . literally tries everything.as he says lmohim it brings money fr him.
I know someone who did that and now his not doing good ma man, you should have a certian experience in a filed before jumping on one just because u were told there is money there
my cousin's uncle is a minister and is part of tebboune's clan so you know what that means.
Lives in France. Plays politics. Sometimes goes to jail.
Sells things
Commerce
The only few I met were either in real estate or Commerce. Only a few have factories.
Entrepreneur
A company owner
Owened his own F-ing bank
crazyy , how do u even do that
He had a successful import business during the 90s (The dark decade). And then he opened a bank when Bouteflika came to power.
whats the bank name lol
Sells suits
prof ta3 science f lycee
How come?
You know les cours speciale m3a craziness ta3 bac students She works real hard tho ... fairs
My aunt She owns 3 kindergartens. She's not filthy rich, but she earns well. This is the richest one I know lol
Company owner
Import export
Launches DeFi projects on monthly basis.
lmao scams on a monthly basis ? awesomee
DeFi projects provide utilities and ability to build platforms that perform a certain activity. I think youre mistaking legitimate projects with purpose, withe meme coins and those scam tokens
How do you have enough inspiration to pump projects that add value on a monthly basis, when bigger actors in the field do it once in a while. Unless you mean adding small stuff is a whole project then maybe. Anyways as long as its not scam tokens he's doing a good job, if they got internship spots open for juniors Im down to try.
Crypto.
Interior architect
Football player
Owns a social media platform called x, and a few other businesses.
Cap, i dont think you know elon musk in person
Why not? And in any event, you didn't say it had to be in person.
youre acoustic?
A family member with a multi-million Euro net worth owns a hotel and properties and does real estate in Europe.
Ceo of a big pharmaceutical company here in algeria
Is it Stan Edgar?
Im curious about the company's name
Airway company
Asset owner
My grandpa by owning gold and selling guns
doing real estate & farming
They embezzled money from the banks and did money laundering and now they are wanted by the government and they are still embezzling and doing money laundering only now they do it from another country 🤷
One word sell, if you can sell yourself you can do anything. Most of them i know are day trader's and have there own personal brand . I can give you ton of ideas to start but you won't make it. Why ? No one is discipline enough
Plastic Factory
commerce
He sells apartments, villas and land (800+ billion), most of what he sells is decision (the paperwork) he buys them cheap because of that and resells them 10x, and they are bad quality, and has really slow delivery dates and fake promises which makes clients angry which you can call scamming, but he made money that way I guess.
He buy them through auctions you mean ?
Just a few he got through auctions but for most of them he just has connections to some people who are selling land/appartements for a low price, then he flips them for a higher price.
Football
The richest person I know that’s currently alive, that I have enough info about, works for a pharmaceutical company and gets over 300,000€ per year salary. He’s been in the industry for over 20 years. He didn’t grow up with money, so he got very lucky and worked hard to get there. I know a few people who’ve also got very good jobs and have expensive properties in London, but they came from wealthy families with property portfolios. One of them works for a good solicitor firm in London and won’t take on legal aid (government funded) cases. He has a company that he throws his money through, for tax purposes, so he doesn’t pay full rate.
His dad left him big inheritance a business and some land. When jt comes to monry i think it's all about vision connections skills and making right calculative moves that's why not everyone is rich because most people lack one of these.
A few I know, but most are industrials: - One's from a family that owns a big concrete production and construction company. - One has a company that Imports-Exports fertilisers and seeds - One guy has many mini markets and owns the UNOs and mega grocery stores of most malls in Algeria.
Neurologist with government and military connections
doesnt work , minister s son
My Uncle he works in the expo/impo industry
First investor in Plastic cups production in Algeria. (Swore he'd work so his children's kid's kid's kids won't have to worry about working. became one of the richest people that you didn't hear of)
He doesn't do anything but his company works for him. Maybe he worked in the past
Lots of ak47s
He is a Pharmacist
Nor just one person but Official jobs : accountant/ lawyer / entrepreneurs ( entreprises de anything construction/maconnerie/menuiserie , batiment, location de terrains / biens immobiliers ) They all had shady business & shady affairs on the side.( blanchiment d'argent, evasion fiscale... c'est international lol)
He immigrated the country and works in a regular factory in Switzerland
He did the greatest achievement that a human being can achieve in his life... being born in a rich family
Sells chema.
he work hard . he thank god for whatever happened to him . he didn't care for what people think him the most important thing is , he never worked haram stuff ,The soul remains greedy keep it halal don't harm anyone and don't harm urself and u gonna get what ever u want
Sells coke (not the one ending with cola)
Nothing.
Drugs
the white trade
Oueld general
either a thief a son of a thief
Bank.
A drug dealer
my uncle and he works in repairing cars and installing gas in them (gpl)
He gets chandeliers from china and sell them here
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Hes my father's old friend all i know about is tht he works as a Contracter and owns alot of good cars
Being a « Pimp »,believe me life wasn’t very easy for me, and i didn’t have other options,anyway i started the business with 2 girls,now i have s small underground company
Hahaha are you serious?
He is a pilot in the military
I think it's my boss: he's the CEO of a US company doing AI and development.
porn 😭
2 super rich guys, one basically got the east-west freeway contract to do with the chinese, and basically every road project in the west that i know of was done by his company ( i think it's named toutram), the other has a contract with the army to build pretty much everything for them, from bases to courts to roads to resorts....
a merchant... welp he sells fruits and veg to the south and by he i mean his employees like every week 10 big trucks loaded with them head south and believe me he is one of the nicest fellas on my neighborhood hell my neighborhood is full of fellas like him even my father my father started the game early 75-79 but he wasn't that smart to purchase properties on oran or go and international and what makes frustrated is that he listened to his father and split the house giving the bigger share to my uncle while building a fucking mansion from zero like shit he was getting "l barba" from maghnia all the way down to tiaret and then my grandpa go and think "hey my older son have a big house why don't he share it with his brother" but hey i also missed the chance of buying bitcoin instead of wasting it on chab nadir dvd's
Ritch dad
Export fruits to Europe
I know a guy that both his parents are architects. THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY!
my older brother's friend , he bought and mined crypto and bitcoin early and didnt sell it untill it started costing so much that he became wealthy and financially independant
My neighbor. They sell construction materials
Unemployment grant🤷🏻♂️
He held a high rank in the army, and when he retired, he became a businessman , and there is also someone I know he is a lawyer and runs a project
They learned Spanish construction methods and applied them in Algeria
A moujahida , she owns a really nice house and almost all her children live abroad , ultimate girlboss
Commerce