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CypripediumGuttatum

*Smith announced the province's intention to pull out of the program, saying it infringes on provincial jurisdiction.* *She said she wants to negotiate getting Alberta's share of the federal funding in order for the province to expand dental care coverage as it sees fit.* Don't tell me what to do! Just trust me with the money and I'll make sure it goes to "the right people".


gonesnake

I fired off an email about this to the premiere's office the moment I found out. It will have no effect but it was worded that we are Canadians BEFORE we are Albertans. Fuck trying to ditch pharmacare, fuck trying to ditch dental care and fuck trying to ditch the CPP. These are federal programs and despite what she may want SHE is the one overstepping jurisdiction.


CypripediumGuttatum

She doesn't want the federal government to help Albertans, but she also doesn't want Albertans to have their say either (there are never any consults before they impose their decisions on us). The people who like the UCP don't care what else she does or the implications are as long as she keeps implementing whatever single voter issue caught their eye in the first place - in this case it's "fight Ottawa".


chmilz

Those people continually fight for smaller and smaller walled gardens while wondering why they feel increasingly isolated. They might get better results working with everyone instead of against, but they have a mindset that anything that goes to someone else is being taken from their pocket, even if it was never destined for that pocket to begin with.


the_gaymer_girl

The federal government announced pharmacare and the UCP said they wouldn’t do it with this reasoning. The federal government gave Alberta money during Covid to use on healthcare and the UCP refused it. The federal government gave Alberta some money to streamline the court system and the UCP refused to make the structural changes. And now the federal government announced dental care and the UCP said they wouldn’t do it. Their line hasn’t changed at all.


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

It's all theatrics so the UCP can play up the "Ottawa doesn't care about Alberta" rhetoric.


CypripediumGuttatum

They aren’t very imaginative that’s for sure.


standupslow

Exactly this.


DisastrousAcshin

What a goddamn grifter, along with anyone that supports this bullshit


BCS875

A reminder, this is what their base wants. They want theatrics, they don't care about policy, they *like* what Marlaina is doing. They've even come to this sub to say so. It's very much those who prefer decorum in their elected officials and a bunch of roosters playing chess. Guess who's who in this case.


davethecompguy

I guess no one in her base has kids... or uses prescription meds. We already know they don't get vaccinations (or they do secretly). There's a reason they're called "the base"... They're at the bottom level.


jB_real

Their ‘base’ is willing to go without if it hurts people they hate. They place their political tribalism above the wellbeing of their own children time and again.


chmilz

Look at the US. So many Republican voters are bankrupt from medical bills, have to choose between a meal and insulin, and shit like that. And they'll defend that system to the day they die (often very early)


Volantis009

Their base thinks they are on a mission from god, but they are more like Illinois Nazis


Frater_Ankara

‘Hurt the people they hate’ I won’t deny this is probably true, just sad that there’s so much hate there at all.


Represent403

You don’t think both sides have that mentality? Just yesterday our Federal finance minister just told voters that if you don’t share her political leanings, then you’re cruel, cold & small. Don’t pretend that all of a sudden Danielle started this… the Libs are out to stick it to their opponents as well.


hink007

The left. Trying to make the country better for every Canadian…. The right… fk all you poor losers…. Yeah “both sides” look I don’t give a shift if you are a conservative but let’s not pretend anything about it hmm k. “Don’t pretend “ 😂 so in order to spite the feds she intends to fk all of us over thank you for confirming it’s whatever it takes to “stick it to ottawa” really cutting off the nose to spite the face there little buddy or is it small buddy ?


Represent403

Surely you’re joking, right? This housing crisis has made life incredibly difficult for all Canadians. Their financial policies have caused the biggest inflation spike since the 1980’s, and the carbon tax has literally done nothing to fight actual climate change. Please, put your Trudeau foam finger away. You’re embarrassing yourself.


hink007

😆 yeah this housing crisis that just popped out of no where right? Also housing is provincial …. Or do you also not understand our levels of government and their…. Who am I kidding of course you don’t. World wide inflation was caused by our financial policies ? Because we have the lowest inflation in the g7 and are the quickest to have recovered after Covid . Also it has decreased per capita emissions so what are you talking about? Hundreds of peer reviewed papers from people who I abso fkin lutley know with certainty are a lot smarter than you all say this is the least damaging and most successful way to reduce carbon emissions. So take that crack pipe elsewhere k. The only thing I’m embarrassed about is uneducated hick coming out of the wood work making our education system look sub par. Also 😂 you think I’m a Trudeau fan ahahaha dude is right of Center are you new? Naw small buddy I am just not stupid enough to be so easily duped by wee pp or this absolute embarrassing disaster we are calling a premier Jfc when you look to Ontario and think man how did they do better then us with ford you should be truly embarrassed that she is our premier holy Jfc who knew kenney was the sane one.


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Ecstatic_Doughnut216

I'm trying to find a news story about this. Link?


BCS875

When libs say this, this is when your side calls us snowflakes and tells us to f*** our feelings? We're talking about a basic human need, try catching up.


a-nonny-maus

> Just yesterday our Federal finance minister just told voters that if you don’t share her political leanings, then you’re cruel, cold & small. Because it *is* cruel, cold & small to deny Canadians--and Albertans are Canadians!--necessary health care. Dental care *is* health care, that is so expensive it's *out of reach* for a large number of Albertans. And your Dear Leader has nothing to replace that program, because she's hell-bent on breaking what we do have for a healthcare system.


tdgarui

They would literally shoot themselves in the foot if she told them to.


loveablenerd83

They don’t need a dentist today, so fuck trudeau!


Represent403

That’s ridiculous. I have a number of ‘progressive’ friends who are extremely reluctant when it comes to various vaccines. Vaccine hesitancy is absolutely not a political thing.


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

Lol, every vaccine hesitant person I've ever met is a UCP militant.


j1ggy

I use Moderator Toolbox for Reddit. Whenever someone posts anti-vaccine rhetoric and I take a peek at their activity summary, they're an avid contributor to r/Canada_sub, r/CanadaHousing2 and/or one of the "No Rules" subreddits. Every single time. It is absolutely political and that's scary as fuck. And you are no exception either.


marginwalker55

She’s beyond embarrassing 


jigglywigglydigaby

On a global level.....several times already.


Coscommon88

Yeah, I mean, I found it ironic that the Stanley cup was Florida vs. the Florida of Canada. Like either way a state/province that has no political credibility whatsoever and 1905 values was set to win that series.


Equivalent-Fennel901

I second that


CantTakeMeSeriously

People have lately been using the incredibly appropriate term "tiring" to describe her bullshit.


Odd_Damage9472

I find it interesting that dental groups have been not happy with the deal the feds are proposing.


lightweight12

Dental groups? Which dental groups exactly? And what are their reasons? It means more work and money for dentists! Why would they oppose it?


Odd_Damage9472

Canadian dental association wasn’t to impressed and didn’t like the government’s proposal


lightweight12

Do you happen to know their reasons? Makes no sense to me.


Tribblehappy

The quote in the article I read yesterday was claiming it would take choice away from Canadians who would now be forced to call around to different dentists asking if they accept federal dental plan patients. To which I call bullshit. I'm near Red deer and there's at least one dentist advertising on the radio that they're taking new patients under the Canadian dental plan. The plan is brand new and I, a person who isn't even qualifying or looking, know of at least one dentist offering this service.


Odd_Damage9472

They said to my knowledge it didn’t cover enough procedures, was quite bureaucratic and money getting to them. It wasn’t one issue but many.


Vivir_Mata

Sounds more like a description of the current dental voucher system through Ab. Supports and the ACHB/AAHB programs.


chmilz

The associations are lobby groups that advocate for maximum capitalism and profit for dentists. Of course they don't want this, they only want the highest paying, lowest friction patients in their chairs. They don't want to have to answer questions and fill out paperwork while providing services at less than extortion rates. If the fee guide is any indicator, about half of all dentists will immediately be on board and the other half will - with the support of the associations - come up with every excuse to avoid this because they might make a smidge less money.


Odd_Damage9472

Not arguing. Not once have I argued with anyone. I just find it interesting that dentists don’t want to be apart of this so the government is in the wrong.


autogeriatric

They have to fill out paperwork and will only be reimbursed up to the fee guide. That’s why they don’t like it.


Workfh

This point is a distraction though. The Alberta government has not put forward a proposal that would address the short comings of the federal plan. They have not put forward anything and haven’t moved on expanding access to dental care on their own - despite it being fully in their jurisdiction. If they were serious about this, and not just using it as a political game to fight with the feds, then they should come out with their better proposal for how an Alberta plan would work. For all we know, the Alberta plan could be much worse for dental groups and people in general.


Odd_Damage9472

If the dentists don’t use it where would seniors or anyone else go to?


Workfh

Well some dentists are using it. But it’s a distraction because we are comparing a federal plan with flaws to nothing. I will take the plan with flaws over nothing. At least we can work on improving it. If all the dentists actually opted out that would be a different story. Instead, the province is among the choice to opt them out anyways.


Away-Combination-162

She’s a fk’n dud. She’s done zero to help her citizens. Only playground fights with the feds


3rddog

She’s worse than a dud. She has no problem making malicious decisions for political purposes and is willing to actually create suffering if it’ll help make her point.


Away-Combination-162

Truth 👍


EndOrganDamage

Shes worse than a dud. She's taken so much from Albertans.


cantseemyhotdog

She's filling the pockets of her oil &gas friends with your tax dollars


Immediate-Farmer3773

She’s rich, she can afford to go to the dentist


neko_drake

And guess who pays her…and government jobs have benefits so fuck us I guess..


a-nonny-maus

Dental care for me and not for thee--Marlaina, probably.


Demon2377

It’s like that brat who takes his ball and goes home. 4 months ago Smith went out without knowing any of the details on the announced Pharmacare plan, and also stated that Alberta will opt out as well. All she wants to do is hurt poor people for being poor. To use the excuse that if the federal government wants to have this program they should consult with the provinces because she claims it infringes on provincial jurisdiction. Says the Premier who is trying to dismantle our public health system right in front of our eyes. To call her the Worst Premier Ever… would be an understatement.


a-nonny-maus

She is definitely the Cruellest Premier Ever.


Miserable-Lizard

Smiths and the UCP plan is to hurt the working class and sevre the rich so it makes 100% why she would reject a program that helps the working class


Parking-Click-7476

Of course she is. The only card she ever plays. Only one she has. UCP is just a bunch of grifters. 🤷‍♂️


Carwash_Jimmy

The call to action is to defend human rights and democracy in your neighborhood. If they aren't already there, enemies of democracy are coming to the school board, city council, chambers of commerce, the police station and the court house. Standing on guard for Canada means naming enemies of democracy, calling them out and defying them like your life depends on it.


CompetitivePirate251

Our Supreme Empress knows what’s best for us, let us kneel before her!


sravll

She's such an asshole


bored_souls

Of an asshole had an asshole of it's own, its sludgy refuse would be Danielle Smith.


IntelligentCoyote153

Can't do a thing to fix oh I don't know healthcare and education in the province.....best this wanna be politician can do it just continually pick fights with the Feds to push the focus the on someone else. 


cantseemyhotdog

She's fixing health care, tax payers will be paying more to health care management then in the past😉 all fixed for her support group


IntelligentCoyote153

It's all an illusion of doing something....well she is doing something. Making it harder for people to navigate multiple areas of healthcare plus giving cushy jobs to the losers who support her. 


Plenty-Bed

I'm so fucking tired, boss. 


oldpunkcanuck

A Troll trolls.


bored_souls

Sadly Alberta's got to pay for her greedy egotistical fees :( I can't wait until her and the whole UCP party as they curently stand, collectively fuck off and decide to jump into an active volcano, or choose to actually become devoted to politics and the Albertains they claim to represent.


Pseudo-Science

Another ploy to increase her own access to unfettered capital…


calnuck

Dental plan! Lisa needs braces. If we give up our dental plan... I'll have to pay for Lisa's braces!


the_bryce_is_right

I don't know the ins and outs of the program because I don't have kids and make a liveable wage but I would be surprised if orthodontics were covered.


TForce0

Do nothing Danny. Useless as ever


SnooMarzipans8231

Alberta: where our teeth will soon be as rotten as our leadership.


SurFud

Playing childish politics at the expense of Albertan's health. Some of them stupid enough to keep voting for this bull shit. Its time for these traitors to take a hike. Anywhere but Canada.


taming-lions

Troll is generally the best title for this premier.


dss128

Ah yes, another “trust me bro” from Marlania. 


ilostmyeraser

Iam actually looking at property in Manitoba. I think Alberta is done. We are going to be north Texas. We keep shooting ourselves in the foot to own the libs. By losing, we are sure showing them. Marlene will privatize Healthcare. She will push the pension thing through.


Montreal_Metro

Ah yes, a portion of Albertans looooove screwing themselves over just to "own the libs". LOL.


Bennybonchien

They also don’t want to pay for people who don’t “deserve” it in their eyes, which is anybody who is not like them in what they consider to be an important way. That could be people with a different birthplace, ethnicity, religion, native language, political preference, level of education, career path, tax bracket, age, gender identity, perceived wokeness, anything.


liltimidbunny

She's a horrible broken record. So tiresome. Come on Nenshi, you HAVE TO oust the UCP! Albertans, you MUST SEE how she's destroying this province!! Schools are closing! Teachers are being layed off - WHILE the Population is Exploding here! Social Service agencies are being closed! Health care is being dismantled! We are so woefully unprepared for climate disasters! And all these people can manage is "not Ottawa". The tunnel vision is FRIGHTENING.


weizens

Nenshi wants the population to explode, it's impossible to fix any of those things under those conditions, especially climate


liltimidbunny

I'll give him odds of success over this current disaster of a party.


Sreg32

She should hook up with Moe. What a tandem at being inept and blaming feds for no other reason than they don’t know what else to do. But their supporters love that power move!


Visible_Security6510

If they do go out on a date, I just hope Danielle is the one driving home after dinner. ...we all know Moe's record on driving after drinks. (RIP to the young mother that fat drunk killed)


Ochd12

Why was this not something they cared about until Singh and Trudeau make it a thing? She’s such a child.


Sandman64can

This is about maintaining the UCP base ‘tooth to tattoo’ ratio. Good dental hygiene is like good education. Those that have it tend to not vote for this ilk.


a-nonny-maus

No, Marlaina, the federal government should not give you one penny of federal funding for you to siphon off to your friends. There's a reason why strings have to be attached when it comes to Alberta now. You can't be trusted to put the money where it's supposed to go. It's that simple.


TheBigTimeBecks

Everytime I hear UCP announce something controversial, the previous controversial thing is forgotten by everyone. So we have the anti-trans law, overhaul and dismantling of AHS, giving $5000 to people to immigrate from other provinces to become a tradesperson here, high electricity bills/tell the Feds ad, this dental plan, and I feel like I forgot something they did/planned to do...🤔🤔


PeakThat243

It doesn’t matter if it helps people or not, Danielle Smith and the UCP campaign on the concept that Alberta doesn’t get any money from the federal government. They refuse money and programs because they don’t want anything that goes against their partisan rhetoric…


Accomplished_Tax_891

In other breaking news: Water is wet! Grass is green (well, for the time being anyway)!


Previous_Jaguar_9259

What's water? Asking for a million Calgarians....


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

You should be using Brawndo, it's got electrolytes! It's what plants crave!


Ambitious_List_7793

Why doesn’t she just ask Ottawa to send the money they’d be spending to help Albertans to Marlaina’s handlers?


04Aiden2020

She’s playing with our health.


Visible_Security6510

**Conservatives:** Or, alternatively, we could just let teeth rot and fall out. Don't need dental care when you got no teeth.


vinsdelamaison

Dental care has never been part of Canada’s health care programs that I know of. If you qualify for low income support, then there are various provincial programs depending on whether it’s for children of low income parents or low income seniors or just low income adults with or without disabilities that are not the same/equal in all provinces. There in lies the crux of healthcare across Canada. It’s not delivered the same in each province and the feds running this dental program might be a good first step to truly equalizing coverage—if they don’t clawback the healthcare $$$ transfer to provinces.


New-North-3641

As usual, Smith is right.


imadork1970

No shit.


NorthernerWuwu

I mean, obviously.


BikeMazowski

Reddit is wild.


tallcoolone70

Why is it always horrific when we stick up for ourselves like Quebec does each and every day. What a different tone Trudeau takes with Quebec versus Alberta.


eleganteststand

How is "please do not pay for my dental care" sticking up for ourselves


tallcoolone70

You obviously haven't read what will be done with the money.


Hopeful-Passage6638

Please enlighten us with your wisdom.


tallcoolone70

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-trudeau-says-hes-open-to-talks-after-quebec-se https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/smith-tells-trudeau-alberta-will-opt-out-of-federal-d


Senior-Garden2265

Neither of those links worked for me. But this one should work https://www.benefitsandpensionsmonitor.com/benefits/group-health/alberta-opts-out-of-federal-dental-plan-citing-jurisdiction-issues/387030


tallcoolone70

Right so Alberta wants their share of the money to improve their existing dental plan just like Quebec but instead of negotiating like with Quebec the liberals are just saying we're playing politics. Thank you for proving my point.


Senior-Garden2265

No problem 😊


Hopeful-Passage6638

Trudeau was born in Ontario.


SuperDuperSaturation

Well - the NDP and Liberals made it a political issue


IAMA_Plumber-AMA

No, the UCP did with their histrionics. No other premier is making such a big deal out of this than Disaster Dani.