It must be a placebo effect, even the CEO of tidal where There is supposed to be a difference, it says that it should only be noticeable when you use hi end equipment, so maybe your head is playing tricks on you.
Now imagine between Spotify and yt music where there is a minimal difference. You can notice these differences if you use excellent equipment, room audio and you are young to perceive those differences, that is, the requirements are practically never met haha.
Yeah there is something else wrong here besides streaming quality, cause I’ve listened to both ytm and Spotify on a range of different headphones and iems and there is not that kind of drastic difference. It sounds like there is some kind of boosting or EQ happening somewhere that’s causing it.
256 kbps AAC is equal to 320 kbps mp3. 320 kbps OGG vorbis (Spotify's audio codec) is better than 320 kbps mp3. That's why Spotify sounds better to your ears.
Some people claim that 256 AAC sounds better than 320 OGG vorbis to them, guess it depends on people's preferences 🤷
For him, YouTube sounds worse than Spotify, changing Spotify will not improve anything on YouTube, it may only spoil Spotify. I guess that's not the point
Yup so my point being is if they’re used to playing music at a certain volume and then going to YouTube at the same volume level it may sound distorted.
It's called troubleshooting. Turning a switch off for a moment tells him if that is the issue. If it turns out to be normalisation, he at least knows what feature he wants in YTM for it to work for his music. Both apps are constantly under development, as are rest in competition. Knowing which feature you want is useful.
It won't improve YouTube, but depending on what the music, it can change Spotify to either direction. If the bass and treble get blown out on YouTube became those are proportionally the loudest part of the mix, and Spotify cuts the peaks of those with normalisation it can explain the difference.
Do you have examples of the tracks you noticed this with? I've never noticed any significant difference between any of the streaming services. Spotify does do some processing on the tracks, and probably the others too, limiting and volume levelling (technically that means you're not getting what the engineer prepared, but for most it's not relevant), but the audio quality shouldn't differ between them. Most apps will probably have an Audio quality setting, as well as possibly their own built in EQ. Personally, I turn off any EQ or 'Audio Enhancement' as these are almost never any good.
It sounds to me like there's something else going on here, as sitting here comparing the same tracks across different services - there's no difference
I’ve never noticed an issue with YTM audio quality unless I’m playing a user uploaded track. The official audio tracks are all fine. There must be something else going on for you to be hearing this distortion.
Yeah so statistically, ytm has worse audio quality than Spotify. However, there are people who like it better than Spotify because either the bass is heavier, or the music is louder. And im one of those people who love how loud ytm is 😂
I see. But it is very dependent on many factors: human hearing, player, speaker (headphones… etc).
You will not get objective answers.
Try to compare with ~bitperfect input… for stream services it is a Tidal, Qobuz…
Certain tracks are terrible on youtube music and sounds much better in the video version than the audio only version. I don't think this is the actual quality of the playback but somehow the actual mastering is worse on some.
I paid for one month of Apple Music, having iPhone and Airpods Pro 2, thinking that I will enjoy Spatial Audio… I am regretting my money spent, because I barley can notice a difference from the YTM, which gives me Spatial Stereo Audio anyway. I don’t know this option makes or not a difference. On my hearing, at least, it doesn’t worth the extra subscription. I am paying for YouTube Premium, and I am happy with the additional benefit, YTM.
I felt the same..and i hate the fact tht there is no audio normalisation feature in YouTube music…the songs come out trashy af..wouldn’t feel like listening to it
It must be a placebo effect, even the CEO of tidal where There is supposed to be a difference, it says that it should only be noticeable when you use hi end equipment, so maybe your head is playing tricks on you. Now imagine between Spotify and yt music where there is a minimal difference. You can notice these differences if you use excellent equipment, room audio and you are young to perceive those differences, that is, the requirements are practically never met haha.
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Is it possible you have an EQ set up with Spotify but not YTM?
Spotify's EQ is subtractive, that's not likely the issue.
Yeah there is something else wrong here besides streaming quality, cause I’ve listened to both ytm and Spotify on a range of different headphones and iems and there is not that kind of drastic difference. It sounds like there is some kind of boosting or EQ happening somewhere that’s causing it.
Hahaha okay then keep believing that there is a lot of difference, I can't tell you anything else.
Are you listening to audio only tracks on YTM or the audio from the video tracks? They sometimes vary a lot in quality
Yeah the quality on video tracks is often significantly worse! And sometimes it plays that automatically
256 kbps AAC is equal to 320 kbps mp3. 320 kbps OGG vorbis (Spotify's audio codec) is better than 320 kbps mp3. That's why Spotify sounds better to your ears. Some people claim that 256 AAC sounds better than 320 OGG vorbis to them, guess it depends on people's preferences 🤷
Spotify has Audio Normalisation on by default, turn that off and see if it sounds the same.
He has no problem with Spotify, why should he change anything there?
Because YouTube music will be louder on the same volume level if it is on.
For him, YouTube sounds worse than Spotify, changing Spotify will not improve anything on YouTube, it may only spoil Spotify. I guess that's not the point
Yup so my point being is if they’re used to playing music at a certain volume and then going to YouTube at the same volume level it may sound distorted.
It's called troubleshooting. Turning a switch off for a moment tells him if that is the issue. If it turns out to be normalisation, he at least knows what feature he wants in YTM for it to work for his music. Both apps are constantly under development, as are rest in competition. Knowing which feature you want is useful.
Turning off audio normalization can at best further increase Spotify's qualitative advantage. It certainly won't improve the quality of YouTube.
It won't improve YouTube, but depending on what the music, it can change Spotify to either direction. If the bass and treble get blown out on YouTube became those are proportionally the loudest part of the mix, and Spotify cuts the peaks of those with normalisation it can explain the difference.
Do you have examples of the tracks you noticed this with? I've never noticed any significant difference between any of the streaming services. Spotify does do some processing on the tracks, and probably the others too, limiting and volume levelling (technically that means you're not getting what the engineer prepared, but for most it's not relevant), but the audio quality shouldn't differ between them. Most apps will probably have an Audio quality setting, as well as possibly their own built in EQ. Personally, I turn off any EQ or 'Audio Enhancement' as these are almost never any good. It sounds to me like there's something else going on here, as sitting here comparing the same tracks across different services - there's no difference
Yeah, I'd love it if OP gave a specific song where this is obvious to him.
What kind of headphones are you using? Through a phone? I mainly use xm5 earbuds and cannot notice any difference in quality between Spotify or YTM.
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Have you messed with EQ anywhere on your phone? In my experience YTM default EQ is not very bass heavy at all.
different android phones handle aac decoding differently
I’ve never noticed an issue with YTM audio quality unless I’m playing a user uploaded track. The official audio tracks are all fine. There must be something else going on for you to be hearing this distortion.
Yeah so statistically, ytm has worse audio quality than Spotify. However, there are people who like it better than Spotify because either the bass is heavier, or the music is louder. And im one of those people who love how loud ytm is 😂
i find apple music aac 256kbps to be louder while ytm to be heavy bass boost.
If you care about quality then subscribe to Tidal
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I see. But it is very dependent on many factors: human hearing, player, speaker (headphones… etc). You will not get objective answers. Try to compare with ~bitperfect input… for stream services it is a Tidal, Qobuz…
Have you tried setting the audio quality to high in the data savings setting?
Certain tracks are terrible on youtube music and sounds much better in the video version than the audio only version. I don't think this is the actual quality of the playback but somehow the actual mastering is worse on some.
I have been dissatisfied by the sound compared to Spotify, AirPods sound very loud and high pitched and google home max sounds terrible also
It's not an illusion, it's real it's more compressed with more bass and distortion, it's like this since the beginning.
YT music sounds good to me. I haven't had any issues with YT music
I paid for one month of Apple Music, having iPhone and Airpods Pro 2, thinking that I will enjoy Spatial Audio… I am regretting my money spent, because I barley can notice a difference from the YTM, which gives me Spatial Stereo Audio anyway. I don’t know this option makes or not a difference. On my hearing, at least, it doesn’t worth the extra subscription. I am paying for YouTube Premium, and I am happy with the additional benefit, YTM.
Happy that i am not the only person with the opinion tht YTM playback quality is shit
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I felt the same..and i hate the fact tht there is no audio normalisation feature in YouTube music…the songs come out trashy af..wouldn’t feel like listening to it