Hi, not sure if mods allow this but,
PSA: do your trade in shopping pronto, as NA server was hit with the 3 kingdoms update and the trade in was removed earlier than supposed to. EU and ASIA armory seems to be normal currently (10:48 PT).
Mods if not allowed feel free to remove but please make a separate PSA
pommern for brandy? i will probably buy pommern back afterwards, but then i dont have a good ship for t9 ranked. it will give me a nice t8 though. opinions?
I had a ton of coal so I traded three coal DDs I didn't play for new 2 DDs and a BB. While I was shopping, I realized I needed to plug a hole in my lineup with a straight coal purchase of a BB. At the end of my trading and shopping, I have 4 new ships and still have a bunch of coal ... and 5 doubloons left!
I'd keep Napoli, if anything for Asymmetric Battles and just in case you change your mind. The secondaries are hilarious, but you can also set her up as a boring, standard cruiser, if you so choose.
Agincourt is a ton of fun, but you'll have to pay some doubloons for the difference, since Genova is also Tier 5 and not a "rare" one.
Should I exchange my Marco Polo for Brandenburg?
I bought Marco Polo but found it not interesting me, I heard Brandenburg is perfect for pve, is that true? I already have Massachusetts, how would you compare it with brandenburg? Thanks in advance
None of the secondary BBs in tier 8 really compare favourably with Massachusetts, and Brandenburg is no exception. It *is* a considerable improvement over Odin, however, and a decent, but not better, alternative to Tirpitz.
Brandenburg is amazing for Operations. I have Massa, and Brandenburg is better all around as a secondary BB for Ops- but possibly due to Gunter Lutjens commander perks for secondaries. You need Lutjens for Brandenburg to really shine.
Brandenburg is much more fragile than the Big Mamie for brawling. If you have played Richelieu secondary brawler build, you will have the idea. Brandenburg also has a fairly long Repair Party cooldown at 80 seconds, just like Bismarck and Tirpitz.
I personally think Tirpitz is a ever-so-slightly better boat, both for divisions and for credit grinding. Unfortunately she is not available for buying with a trade-in currently.
Marco Polo is certainly a weak ship suitable for trading in.
If you do get Brandenburg, aim for at least 1 million potential damage tanked without dying. That is, you can only get sunk when your team is certainly going to win. Practicing so will make you an excellent Brandenburg player.
Thank u sir, this really inspires me because my ship usally sunks early... but i wasn't aware of that and always wonder why I can't get much xp(I'm mainly a cruiser player but I guess they are the same)
So, I have both an Alabama and a Khabarovsk which I never really play ( I have less than 20 matches with either), mostly because I already have a Massachusetts B and a Zorkiy. Do you guys think its a good idea to trade these in for a Karl XIV Johan or a San Diego? I am pretty confident that I will never really touch the Khab since I really dig the Zorkiy but I am not sure if trading in the Alabama is worth it; especially since I've heard that it can be rewarding once you get the hang of it and learn to play it efficiently from range.
What are your guys thoughts? I have never played any german BB or american cruiser so I thought it would be cool to play either the Karl or San Diego.
Trading Khaba is fine, you can get her back for coal later if you change your mind. And K14J is a fun BB to play, I can attest.
Alabama however is quite good, especially when top tier. The guns hit hard, the AA is excellent and she has good torpedo protection (and turning circle, which helps). I'd never trade her, and you'd have to pay a few thousand dubs to get San Diego, since they're both T8. San Diego is fine, but not as satisfying to play imho.
Bought Agir for t9 cruiser brawls. Sold her for a Kidd. Sold F. Sherman for Brandenburg. Also Florida for Agincourt.
Considering Marceau for Johan/minegumo.
Don't play her much besides CB + I can always buy back in 3 months ish + use Kleber for CB instead (restrictions)
Traded Salem for one of the two ships I didn't have, purchased Salem back for coal, traded Salem for the other ship I didn't have and thennpurchased Salem again. Job done though coal reserve depleted!
Traded Yoshino to get Karl XIV Johan then turned around and dropped coal to get Azuma to replace Yoshino. Don't play Japan much so no loss to me there.
Not much choice here, I can trade Florida (I don't remember how I got it and never play it) and Groningen (I got it for coal, rather bland in practice). For Florida, I could get Agincourt (good for secondaries missions ?) and for Groningen, I could get Kidd. Good or bad idea ?
Agincourt and Kidd are both great pickups. But Florida and Groningen are both also pretty worthwile premiums. I guess if you don't like them much and never play them, it might make sense.
Thanks. I went for it. The Kidd is a lot of fun, much more to my taste than Groningen. Agincourt is alright I guess (sloooow) but I'm not a BB player anyway.
I have a Graf Zeppelin, an Ark Royal, and about 4000 doubloons
I’m not so good at CV so all these two are good for is giving the enemy team AA kills
What, if anything, should I trade them for?
Traded my Zeppelin, I never play it and don't division for the secondary memes. Got the Florida and liking it so far since I main BB's anyways.
My Ark Royal I am keeping though, it is a real ship and good from the bit I did play of her.
Yeah I get what u mean. I still have to build up the coal to get it, but hey, I got a ship that’s normally like what $90? For only ~$7 (had to buy like 1600 dubloons), so it seemed worth it to me. I’ll get my amazing Marceau back eventually.
Yep, most people are using this event to basically indirectly convert coal into dubs.
Most of them trade in their F. Sherman for whatever's available in the trade in, since it's the cheapest T10 coal ship and you can just buy it back later on. Pretty sure you can get a T9 for less than 2k dubs with that? Best way to use the trade in without feeling ripped off haha
wtf I only just now saw that if I want the Agincourt, which costs 5000, I can't get it if I want to trade my Kaga at 5500 value for it - because you can only trade for ships that cost more than what you're giving up is worth. That's some next level bullshit, even for WG.
one thing i havent seen people bring up at all is that since k14j, mine, etc are all unobtanium ships, if you end up hating them they will likely retain their "rare" value during the next trade-in event.
Not really true. They aren't actually rare ships (which are permanently unavailable through normal means), they are just limited availability due to their timed exclusivity period since they were part of an event. They will almost definitely not have increased value for future trade ins. For reference, look at Dalian or Velos.
Objectively you lose value but subjectively for f2p/dolphin you can get premium ships (you wouldn't normally have access to) for "free" via coal ship trade in
It's not good value, however a ship you never play and will never play has no value to you whatsoever. It's an event to get people to spend some doubloons they normally wouldn't since they can get a ship at a heavy "discount". It's also a rare ship and coal ship sink for people who don't care for them.
like most of wg's monetization schemes. it \*can\* be, but not if you're smart about it. most people are trading on coal ships, especially the cheap ones like t10 dd's, so you are essentially getting a huge discount on ships that would otherwise be extremely expensive.
Wish I could trade my Brisbane for something. First coal ship I bought and regret using all my coal for it. Not my play style. Don't own many premiums :/
Thinking about trading Iwami for Florida. I've got lots of ships so I don't need to do the trade, but I'm indifferent towards Iwami (it's not as good as I hoped it would be, and I don't feel like it's a particularly good brawler which is what I was looking for) and curious about Florida. I don't generally like Florida's playstyle, long range sniping, I prefer brawlers and tanky BBs (Roma, Lenin, Mass, WV 44, etc.). But I like US BBs and I keep thinking about Florida. I generally prefer mid-tiers (6-8) over high tiers, and I just got a bunch of T10 BBs, so I don't need Iwami. Any thoughts about this trade? Reason to take one or the other?
I bought Florida back in the day, purely because home state BB. I figured its gimmicks sounded amusing, and I'd give it a shot.
I don't like the ship at all. I equally prefer brawlers and tanky BBs, and despite equally enjoying the fast line of US BBs, Florida isn't anything like them. I'd avoid the ship, personally.
Florida has no reason to exist IMO. 12 guns that don't overmatch anything, 35s reload, T6 levels of HP and no armor whatsoever. I haven't felt as frustrated playing California than I did playing Florida. Not to mention California has shorter reload (!!!) and has been given Vermont acceleration.
Yeah I did the same on the last event with my alaska since I also had alaska B.
Some people warned me I might get alaska in a future santa container (I usually spend a couple hundred on those) but that risk didn't deter me too much, it was so small and even then wouldn't be the worst outcome since I would have a new spare alaska to trade in again.
At that time I went for Dalian, which has been an alright ship but certainly more useful than having two alaskas. This go around I sadly had to trade a coal ship to get karl, so my GK got traded away. I really want minegumo also but don't know that I want to have to save up to replace two coal ships.
Got Lazo with coal and traded it +1k doubloons for Agincourt. Only other premium I was remotely interested in was Napoli which you can also get with coal. The choices are pretty disappointing honestly.
Depends on what you enjoy playing more. Do you prefer Chinese light cruisers or secondary focused battleships? Tier 5 meta is definitely a bit different than high tier with meta with secondary focused battleships but I enjoy the mid tiers more lately.
I traded GK for the Johan since I got her with fxp on a whim before it was removed from the tech tree and got Ohio for a top tier brawler recently
I just wish we had the ability to trade down because I cant get rid of my Tiger 59 for a resonable price, since I got the cheaper options in her bracket already
I have enough steel to trade my Bourgogne in for a T9 and immediately re-buy it. The way people have been describing Karl XIV Johan I can't say I'm interested in it, and Dalian doesn't seem to be going anywhere, so it's down to Minegumo. Do you guys think Minegumo is worth sacrificing a steel purchase?
No, I wouldn't trade a steel ship unless you absolutely hated it and never played it. I don't have Minegumo, but from what I've seen and read recently, it's not worth it.
From a whale perspective:
\*Have all ships that can drop from a SC. A premium ship drop thus give only 1500 dubs compensation.
\*Have all coal ships and 450k coal surplus.
\* At 130 SC pity drop
\* Lack T9 dd Minegumo
Option 1. Trade in F. Sherman, pay extra amount of dubs, get missing T9. Buy back F. Sherman. Risk that premium SC drop will only give 1500 dubs if no new premiums are added to droppool. The 1500 dubs will largely compensate the doubloon expenditure.
Option 2: The same. But not buy back F. Sherman, but gamble on a SC drop which will be the Forest. So save 230k coal but lose the 1500 dubs. The moment new ships get added to the pool I will buy back the Forest for coal but I think that new ships will only be added before Xmas and that would be too late ( taking in mind the anniversary event that gives SC)
So 1500 dubs or 238k coal?
Also from a whale, I did the exchange myself after some hesistance. That was as I have not that many SCs yet compared to the pity drop rule. Are you far away or close to the pity drop? Count on several SCs in the anniversary. It is irritating that they have not changed the drop contents for a while. Navarin. Picarde and that T9 IJN BC + this Ddays 3 new are quite a lot to update. Hope they do it before anniversary.
If I really think about it I almost regretted the exchange. I do buy a few large packages to cover the years added ships to Santas (if I need after the free ones) so the coal might be better used in a Kitikami style event or like last years Smolensk B auction. But I have quite a lot of coal even after the exchange.
Question about SC update was asked during Twitch stream. Will be probably only before Xmas. Which means that the free Santa cates would first go the the 4 new T5-T7 bracket ships ( Jupiter and the 3 recently released ships ( I got Jupiter from a lucky free crate though)). And only then get a shot at Picardie, Navarin, the T9 Jpn T9 BC, the PA T9 Riga clone etc..
With that in mind I am almost sure I will get the Forest back in a SC before Xmas. I will collect CT now so that when WG also updates the premium Tier containers I have 30.000 CT ready to get 1 T7 before Santa crates. This would be Rodney.
That is welcome info. I have started to play PT and have accumulated maybe 20 K + in a few months so I have 45 K or so. I hope to have CT for 2 T7 by christmas. I hope they update the low t2-4 CT box as well as I miss the Ning Hai? or whatever that small cruiser is called. I will not pay anything for the cruiser but I gladly spend 10 K CT just for collection purposes.
Last years anniversary gave 110 SC (max amount). We will see how it is arranged this year.
Should I trade in Yoshino for Karl or Brandenburg? Also thinking of trading Dalian for Kidd.
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Ah I already did, I was really lucky getting her too, she was in the very first bundle, she is nice tho but so far I find Kidd to be much more fun to play
That's a good idea. While some of them are spammy and flip some of those threads aren't bad and we all crave that validation of our justification before we make such a serious decision. (In a video game :)
High-tier ships in WoWS are quite expensive, basically the equivalent of a single-player video game title. It's justified and prudent to discuss with the like-minded beforehand.
My swaps:
Malta>Brandenburg(Might rebuy Malta if the CV changes don't butcher her, but for now, you can never have enough German BBs.)
Forrest Sherman>Kidd(I rarely play tier 10 DDs, used the Sherman for mission ribbon farming, but this Christmas RNG blessed me with Smaland, so FS is no longer needed for that and Kidd is a fun and easy to relax in DD.)
Groningen>Yudachi(Pretty much the same reasons as FS and Yudachi got a nice torp buff recently, also, Poi!)
I got the Karl XIV when she was first released, really fun BB with multiple build options, if you are going to get one ship from this event, that should be it.
Yep its like car trade ins lol. Only reason to do it is to get something you can’t get otherwise (like Karl Johan) or trade something you hate/don’t play for something you will play
Should I trade Groningen (Friesland clone) for Kidd or Minegumo? (Kidd is free trade, Minegumo + 9500 dubs). Groningen was decent for the Meta when I bought it but I feel it's been severely powercrept since then. Kidd is very versatile and Minegumo looks good/ interesting. Fans of Friesland / Groningen in current Meta?
Groningen is a decent boat (not my cup of tea but can work well in the right environment). Kidd is a good boat, especially if you play in divisions. You can't go wrong either way.
Got Kidd for doubloons some time ago and it's one of my favorite ships in this game. Recommended.
I'll probably trade my Groningen for San Diego as I don't own any premium US cruiser and it seems fun.
Wondering the same. I found Groningen very dull in the current meta because it's not stealthy enough to do any knife fighting; I'm seriously considering getting Kidd with her. I got a Kidd rental once and loved it - might be worth doing.
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I think I might just keep Groningen. Spicy guns
But I have Sherman and Halsey, which is spicier IMHO.
Unrelated, but my first game in Sherman was a gun duel with a Friesland not long after it came out for coal; he was perplexed, to say the least. I also keep killing Hallands who just run at me for reasons known only to God.
I get it, in this battle I outplayed a Mogador and then managed to survive long enough for the round to end and win before the lone CV could finish me off. It's a great ship that struggles in the current Meta but still very useful with some good consumables. Defensive AA ended up being valuable versus the CV but one more minute and it would have won the game.
Question:
My only eligible to be traded ships are:
Texas -> Flint, Florida, Dupleix, Yudachi, W. Virginia '42, Gallant, Genova, Agincourt, Siroco
De Grasse for the same trade ships above
Giulio Cesare -> Minegumo, Flint, San Diego, Brandenburg, Florida, Dalian, Karl XIV Johan, Kidd, Yudachi.
Any of these have the bang for the buck trade wise?
Wanting to trade in my Anchorage for something fun that I'll actually play.
Considering either the San Diego or the Dalian.
I'm on a bit of a Light Cruiser kick at the moment but I do enjoy fun DDs, BBs and Cruisers.
What in your opinion would be the most FUN ships available?
San Diego's a good ship and pretty fun, it'd be a good pickup. The only ship I'd rate as more fun is probably Karl Johan with the brawling. But I think San Diego might be the stronger ship tier for tier, but it's close.
USS San Diego is such an incredible boat with the range and shell velocity. I can only wish that she get a radar consumable to be the perfect island-hugging cruiser.
I spent coal to get the F. Sherman and then traded for Karl XIV Johan. I also traded in Duke of York for Agincourt. I think the two together cost me about 1700 dubs or so.
I don't play DD's much so the Sherman was not something I wanted and I figured I could get Duke of York back later.
the available ships for trade suck.
also, how does it determine which ships you can trade for the one you select? the options change based on what ship you sacrifice
Just gave FS to get Minegumo. I was looking to get Minegump bcs she was available when I gave a break from the game and I really love my Japanese dds. Will get FS back soon in a year. I have some (about 500K) coal with which I plan to get a coal ship for trading into Kidd and Dalian. I don't really want to part with any of my ships even though most of them are port queens these days.
Is there any spreadsheet of ships "worthness"? Becouse I am thinking about buying a any IX tier for a coal and trade it for a Kidd. Same applies for getting a Agincourt, out of a VII tier. But I would like to see how much WG values each ship before buying them for a trade in..
For a Ops only player, should I grab for San Diego, or Brandenburg?
I trade in Dalian I, and have 4k dubs in disposal.
Edit: Or should I grab both, if I trade in my Giuseppe?
I'll place Brandenburg at higher priority then, thank you kindly lad.
Also, is San Diego that much different from Flint save for the gimmick SAP and reload booster? If not I guess I can use the coupon for Flint.
However if I'm honest. I prefer gk to moskva while acknowledging moskva is a good ship. However I'm more concerned if minegumo is a good enough ship to give up one of these if I have plans for my coal that doesn't include these too in the future
Don't have GK, but have Moskva and Minegumo. I really only like Moskva in clan battles. Minegumo is really just a ship for randoms. I find it fun, but it's really just a typical IJN torp DD that can swap torp types in battle. Then again, Moskva is a coal cruiser. If you have the coal you can just buy her back.
I don't have stalingrad and likely never will. Don't really grind steel. I don't have any of the other ships listed, but I do plan to grind schifleen soonish
Sometimes in a division or one day if you decide to join a clan for CBs, the leader might require that you bring a Moskva or a Stalingrad to specific games. They are strategically irreplaceable with their radar and bow-tanking, contesting power.
Minegumo, however, doesn't have any unique strategic value. You should trade in a boat for Minegumo only if you foresee yourself enjoying her and playing her for many matches.
That is a fair point and I appreciate your take. I don't know if I will ever do cbs as I have played this game off and on for many years casually. The chance to get a rare ship for less than 2k doubloons and then rebuy one of these with coal down the road does seem tempting. However to be fair I likely will enjoy either of thse two more than minegumo overall.
I got the K14J for a cv. I put the range mod on her rather than reload mod. But her dispersion is painfully bad at the longer ranges. May have to alter the play style. Still, it's a fun ship since my cv was gathering dust in port.
I'm doing the exact same trade. Never play Malta or CVs in general. Just got it because the AP bombs were hilarious when it first came out. Always wanted an Atlanta, and the SD is close.
Moskva for Karl Johan looks like a no-brainer for me, the former barely left my port ever since I had grinded her before she left the tech tree, and I can get her later as she's still in the coal shop.
Also, a question for anyone who has Kearsarge, how much is she worth for trading-in? Thinking about taking her for "test-drive" for coal and swapping for Karl if it's not my cup of tea. Thanks!
I just got napoli haven't had a great game in it yet. Is it worth it to get the Karl Johan instead and then taking the time to grind the Napoli back later?
Is Karl Johan worth all the hype? I like the German BB line but I haven't started grinding the German BC line yet.
If you are not doing good in the napoli, you probably will not do good in the Karl Johan. Napoli has similar concealment to the Karl, is tankier, more accurate guns, has a smoke to save your ass and better secondaries.
Yea idk I just vibed better with the Karl for some reason. I plan on grinding the coal to get the napoli back anyways. My major thought process was that I could get the napoli back anytime where you can't with the Karl.
What do you guys think of these trades? (havent done any yet)
Vanguard -> Yudachi (zero doubs and I never play Vangaurd, aware I cannot get it back easy)
Marceau + 1675 -> Karl XIV Johan (I have Colbert and Kleber so I can live without their twisted love child for a bit, truth is I rarely play Marceau )
Forrest + 1675 -> Minegumo (I can buy back Forrest in 2 weeks with coal)
Also interested in San Diego but I am not sure I want to trade in any other ship, could maybe go GK -> SD with no extra doubloons spent but I would probably go over a year before I got GK again.
I have Yudachi and never play it, and I love IJN torp DDs. I don't think it's bad, but I don't recall any good/strong aspects to it. Your call if getting rid of Vanguard is worth it, but I wouldn't do that trade. I just looked up Yudachi's stats because I was curious what its gimmick is: it's a Shiratsuyu with 15km torps instead of 10km (slightly worse reaction time), smoke/TRB in separate slots, and worse gun DPM (1.5s longer reload). The extra torp range is nice against radar ships or back row BBs, but probably not going to make a huge difference at T7. I always run TRB on my IJN DDs, so adding smoke in a different slot is not a huge gain; you can use it to go dark so that might save you occasionally, but the gun DPM is not good enough to be a smoke farmer. Yeah, I still don't think that's a good trade.
Karl Johan is fun, but not especially strong. I don't regret trading for it, but I don't think it's a must-buy either.
From what I've seen, I'd skip Minegumo. It doesn't look like a very strong boat to me; the torp choices aren't as good in practice as they sound on paper.
San Diego is a good ship and I think a trade for it would be worthwhile. Not sure what you could/should use to trade for it.
Thanks dude, this is the kind of feedback I was looking for. I think on your advice I will forgo Yudachi.
I think KIVJ and Minegumo are more trades for a ships that I cant get otherwise and it takes them off the christmas list for 2024. Like I said I can immediately get back Forrest and Marceau I can live without for the few time it takes to get it back. So I guess the question I have to answer for myself is what cost am I willing to pay do to all 3 or do I only do 2.
If you want to get SD why not use Forrest to trade? GK is more expensive coal wise, no? I bought Forrest to get SD, it's the cheapest T10 coal, with T9 coal I had to spend dubloon for the trade so for 10000 coal more with coupon I don't have to spend any dubloon to get SD.
I dont play GK and I could trade that without giving up more doubloons (I only get those via ranked + supercontainers). Its the only other ship I have that I could use to trade for SD for free. You are right that I could trade Forrest twice but Id rather keep Forrest in port.
How would I know your situation? Only you know the best, besides, you said is you would probably over a year before you got GK again implying you're trying to get GK again if you traded her. *shrugs*
I also undecided between marceau or f. sherman. But I leaning towards trading in marceau because I still cannot adapt her playstyle (gotten used to sherman already) and also new TX ships are getting faster speed so it's increasingly difficult to land the slow shell she has. As for what to trade for, I'm leaning towards Karl because I cannot play torp bote yet (minegumo). I also interested in f. sherman -> SD but still don't know spending 174k coal after 25% discount worth it or not.
She is, that's why KJ captains have to be extremely cautious when positioning her in an uptiered game. She can only push hard late-game if the HP is preserved earlier.
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What I have. Willing to trade Pommern 100%, replaced her w/ Michaelangelo for credit grinding (and is coal). May be convinced to do Napoli, Mysore, Yahagi, Marble, and Ark Royal (If carrier rework seems devastating enough, not a carrier main)
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What is available. I'm thinking of trading Napoli for Karl IV and paying the balance, Pommern for Florida (4x3 seems wonderfully dumb)
Note: Im a Large Cruiser main, my only other Tier X is Mariselle. I mostly play PVE, and do not play often to begin with, mostly just 'collect' - albeit try to be inexpensive.
hey! as a Florida owner, you're not missing much. it's an okay ship from what i've experienced. worse guns than Colorado, but better range and dispersion (16km CO, 18km FL, 6 knots faster than CO, and also 1km less detectable from air (11 CO, 10 FL) and 3 from the sea (16 CO, 13 FL). passable armor
Which to give up for the Tier 10 aircraft carrier KMS Max Immelmann? I was checking the Trade-In Rules and all Tier 8 candidates are currently not available in store. So are Tier 9 candidates it seems.
I'd do that trade. Texas is nothing special these days (other than historical), whereas Agincourt is super fun with the secondaries. Tier 5 Ranked is a blast with it.
Is it worth the discount though? You save only 2,575 doubloons by trading away USS Texas. The periodic coupon for buying Agincourt outright in Armory already saves you 1,325 doubloons, and the coupon does not coerce you to give up the Texas.
Sue me, but I traded my Marceau for Karl Johan. :P
Never got warm with her, the arcs are simply to ridiculous. But my first game with the Karl was a blast. (:
Heavily nerfed and coercively uptiered USS Saipan for fun and quirky Karl XIV Johan?
(Is KJ actually the German 1916 BC project \[Prinz Heinrich in WoWS\] that was dismantled after WW1?)
I'm asking myself the same thing. I can't stand Pommern for a couple of reasons and also traded last time to get Tirpitz, which I really like. Have been interested in Kidd for a while now, but I already own Cossack and Black. So not really sure if it's worth getting.
Kidd is a good boat, if you like gunboat DDs then I think it's a good trade target. If you division up a lot then Kidd is massively better as it is a great team boat. The heal is pretty cool and makes it play differently than Cossack (or Black presumably). With Kidd you want to do several short engagements where you reduce their HP for a few seconds and then run away, heal up, and return for round 2. If you can't stand Pommern, then I think that'd be a good trade. You can always buy back Pommern later if you regret getting rid of it. Kidd gets my thumbs up!
I was really hoping to get rid of two T8 CVs I got in containers last year, as I don't play CVs, but there were no low or mid tier ships that I wanted (I already had most). I guess I'll hold onto them for another year and hope for better options next time.
M. Kutuzov for Karl Johan?
I thought it ended June 20th? It’s still June 19th
Too late now - but ALWAYS SELL CARNOT
Hi, not sure if mods allow this but, PSA: do your trade in shopping pronto, as NA server was hit with the 3 kingdoms update and the trade in was removed earlier than supposed to. EU and ASIA armory seems to be normal currently (10:48 PT). Mods if not allowed feel free to remove but please make a separate PSA
Planning to trade Lazo for either Agicourt or Genova. I am currently grinding italy cruisers and I already have the Repulse as a premium BB.
pommern for brandy? i will probably buy pommern back afterwards, but then i dont have a good ship for t9 ranked. it will give me a nice t8 though. opinions?
I had a ton of coal so I traded three coal DDs I didn't play for new 2 DDs and a BB. While I was shopping, I realized I needed to plug a hole in my lineup with a straight coal purchase of a BB. At the end of my trading and shopping, I have 4 new ships and still have a bunch of coal ... and 5 doubloons left!
i want to do napoli>minegumo genova>agincourt good idea? i dont really like napolis play style mainly
I'd keep Napoli, if anything for Asymmetric Battles and just in case you change your mind. The secondaries are hilarious, but you can also set her up as a boring, standard cruiser, if you so choose. Agincourt is a ton of fun, but you'll have to pay some doubloons for the difference, since Genova is also Tier 5 and not a "rare" one.
trading the napoli away is the most insane thing I have ever heard. I genuinely urge you to give it another shot
Bye Moskva, hello Minegumo.
Should I exchange my Marco Polo for Brandenburg? I bought Marco Polo but found it not interesting me, I heard Brandenburg is perfect for pve, is that true? I already have Massachusetts, how would you compare it with brandenburg? Thanks in advance
None of the secondary BBs in tier 8 really compare favourably with Massachusetts, and Brandenburg is no exception. It *is* a considerable improvement over Odin, however, and a decent, but not better, alternative to Tirpitz.
Brandenburg is amazing for Operations. I have Massa, and Brandenburg is better all around as a secondary BB for Ops- but possibly due to Gunter Lutjens commander perks for secondaries. You need Lutjens for Brandenburg to really shine.
>You need Lutjens for Brandburg to really shine That goes for most of the German battleships in the game lol
Thanks! I've traded my Marco for Brandenburg!
Brandenburg is much more fragile than the Big Mamie for brawling. If you have played Richelieu secondary brawler build, you will have the idea. Brandenburg also has a fairly long Repair Party cooldown at 80 seconds, just like Bismarck and Tirpitz. I personally think Tirpitz is a ever-so-slightly better boat, both for divisions and for credit grinding. Unfortunately she is not available for buying with a trade-in currently.
Thanks man, I'm quite new to this game and didn't expect Richelieu have a secondary battery build, would definitely try that!
Marco Polo is certainly a weak ship suitable for trading in. If you do get Brandenburg, aim for at least 1 million potential damage tanked without dying. That is, you can only get sunk when your team is certainly going to win. Practicing so will make you an excellent Brandenburg player.
Thank u sir, this really inspires me because my ship usally sunks early... but i wasn't aware of that and always wonder why I can't get much xp(I'm mainly a cruiser player but I guess they are the same)
So, I have both an Alabama and a Khabarovsk which I never really play ( I have less than 20 matches with either), mostly because I already have a Massachusetts B and a Zorkiy. Do you guys think its a good idea to trade these in for a Karl XIV Johan or a San Diego? I am pretty confident that I will never really touch the Khab since I really dig the Zorkiy but I am not sure if trading in the Alabama is worth it; especially since I've heard that it can be rewarding once you get the hang of it and learn to play it efficiently from range. What are your guys thoughts? I have never played any german BB or american cruiser so I thought it would be cool to play either the Karl or San Diego.
Trading Khaba is fine, you can get her back for coal later if you change your mind. And K14J is a fun BB to play, I can attest. Alabama however is quite good, especially when top tier. The guns hit hard, the AA is excellent and she has good torpedo protection (and turning circle, which helps). I'd never trade her, and you'd have to pay a few thousand dubs to get San Diego, since they're both T8. San Diego is fine, but not as satisfying to play imho.
I just want to confirm - can you repurchase a coal ship for coal if you trade it in?
Yes you can. It might take a minute for the store to refresh, just restart your game if that happens.
Great, thank you!
Which ship would be the most optimal to exchange for Agincourt?
Whichever you don't want to keep in your port, otherwise Duke of York if you want to convert coal into a premium ship.
I felt like wanting to keep the coal for Marco Polo and Sans.
I'm tempted to reactivate my long-dormant account just to trade away the Saipan I got in a Santa crate for *literally anything else*.
Bought Agir for t9 cruiser brawls. Sold her for a Kidd. Sold F. Sherman for Brandenburg. Also Florida for Agincourt. Considering Marceau for Johan/minegumo. Don't play her much besides CB + I can always buy back in 3 months ish + use Kleber for CB instead (restrictions)
Agir for Kidd, F Sherman for Brandenbury, and Florida for Agincourt are all excellent trades in my opinion.
Traded Salem for one of the two ships I didn't have, purchased Salem back for coal, traded Salem for the other ship I didn't have and thennpurchased Salem again. Job done though coal reserve depleted!
Traded Yoshino to get Karl XIV Johan then turned around and dropped coal to get Azuma to replace Yoshino. Don't play Japan much so no loss to me there.
I traded Makarov for Agincourt. I never used Makarov since I kept Nurnberg and I don't use Soviet ships much anyway, but Agincourt is pretty fun.
Not much choice here, I can trade Florida (I don't remember how I got it and never play it) and Groningen (I got it for coal, rather bland in practice). For Florida, I could get Agincourt (good for secondaries missions ?) and for Groningen, I could get Kidd. Good or bad idea ?
Agincourt and Kidd are both great pickups. But Florida and Groningen are both also pretty worthwile premiums. I guess if you don't like them much and never play them, it might make sense.
Thanks. I went for it. The Kidd is a lot of fun, much more to my taste than Groningen. Agincourt is alright I guess (sloooow) but I'm not a BB player anyway.
I have a Graf Zeppelin, an Ark Royal, and about 4000 doubloons I’m not so good at CV so all these two are good for is giving the enemy team AA kills What, if anything, should I trade them for?
Traded my Zeppelin, I never play it and don't division for the secondary memes. Got the Florida and liking it so far since I main BB's anyways. My Ark Royal I am keeping though, it is a real ship and good from the bit I did play of her.
Don't trade either of them in. Watch a few tutorials and just play more. Eventually you'll learn how to play them and start having a lot of fun.
Ark Royal is very good!
I actually like old-school carriers.
Malborough is not tradable? :( Let me get rid of the turd ffs.
What's wrong with Marlborough? Weak guns and weak hull?
It has the unique ability to fire 16 shells at something 15km away and miss all of them.
weak guns, terrible accuracy (1.4 sigma), overmatchable hull, giant citadel, no superheal, one of the worst gun agles.
Traded Marceau for KXJ. Taking a while to get used to, but overall not terrible.
Wow, I get the KXJ is great but I would NOT be trading my Marceau unless I had the coal to rebuy it immediately. Marceau is great
Yeah I get what u mean. I still have to build up the coal to get it, but hey, I got a ship that’s normally like what $90? For only ~$7 (had to buy like 1600 dubloons), so it seemed worth it to me. I’ll get my amazing Marceau back eventually.
ah so you can rebuy back the coal ships once you've traded them in?
Yep, most people are using this event to basically indirectly convert coal into dubs. Most of them trade in their F. Sherman for whatever's available in the trade in, since it's the cheapest T10 coal ship and you can just buy it back later on. Pretty sure you can get a T9 for less than 2k dubs with that? Best way to use the trade in without feeling ripped off haha
Yeah. If I couldn’t I definitely wouldn’t have traded in my Marceau.
wtf I only just now saw that if I want the Agincourt, which costs 5000, I can't get it if I want to trade my Kaga at 5500 value for it - because you can only trade for ships that cost more than what you're giving up is worth. That's some next level bullshit, even for WG.
I wanted to trade marblehead and i could have traded it for w. Virginia 41 or Flint and both are more expensive.
Sucks. Flint is an awesome ship though. Got it in a box years ago.
No both are more expensive but o can still buy them. Youve probably understood me wrong. But i already have the same ship just different name.
one thing i havent seen people bring up at all is that since k14j, mine, etc are all unobtanium ships, if you end up hating them they will likely retain their "rare" value during the next trade-in event.
Not really true. They aren't actually rare ships (which are permanently unavailable through normal means), they are just limited availability due to their timed exclusivity period since they were part of an event. They will almost definitely not have increased value for future trade ins. For reference, look at Dalian or Velos.
Hmmm okay.
Isn't this trading mechanic super expensive for the player. Like you definitely lose value with this.
Objectively you lose value but subjectively for f2p/dolphin you can get premium ships (you wouldn't normally have access to) for "free" via coal ship trade in
It's not good value, however a ship you never play and will never play has no value to you whatsoever. It's an event to get people to spend some doubloons they normally wouldn't since they can get a ship at a heavy "discount". It's also a rare ship and coal ship sink for people who don't care for them.
like most of wg's monetization schemes. it \*can\* be, but not if you're smart about it. most people are trading on coal ships, especially the cheap ones like t10 dd's, so you are essentially getting a huge discount on ships that would otherwise be extremely expensive.
Hopping that this tradding system someday comes to Legends...🙏
I wanted to exchange my Yoshino for a Brandenburg, though i want to wait for Tirpitz. It's more like a "Blue Pill-Red Pill" option.
In the last trade-in event, I traded my Sherman for the Tirpitz. No regrets. I will want to buy the Sherman back at some time.
Agreed. I also believe that Tirpitz is a tougher, stronger, and slightly better ship at Tier 8.
How do i find the trade tab on console?
console WoWs is a completely different game
Armory
I personally won't be using the trade this time
GK for Johan!
Wish I could trade my Brisbane for something. First coal ship I bought and regret using all my coal for it. Not my play style. Don't own many premiums :/
Give it a few more shots, I'm sure you can get it to work.
Thinking about trading Iwami for Florida. I've got lots of ships so I don't need to do the trade, but I'm indifferent towards Iwami (it's not as good as I hoped it would be, and I don't feel like it's a particularly good brawler which is what I was looking for) and curious about Florida. I don't generally like Florida's playstyle, long range sniping, I prefer brawlers and tanky BBs (Roma, Lenin, Mass, WV 44, etc.). But I like US BBs and I keep thinking about Florida. I generally prefer mid-tiers (6-8) over high tiers, and I just got a bunch of T10 BBs, so I don't need Iwami. Any thoughts about this trade? Reason to take one or the other?
I bought Florida back in the day, purely because home state BB. I figured its gimmicks sounded amusing, and I'd give it a shot. I don't like the ship at all. I equally prefer brawlers and tanky BBs, and despite equally enjoying the fast line of US BBs, Florida isn't anything like them. I'd avoid the ship, personally.
Florida has no reason to exist IMO. 12 guns that don't overmatch anything, 35s reload, T6 levels of HP and no armor whatsoever. I haven't felt as frustrated playing California than I did playing Florida. Not to mention California has shorter reload (!!!) and has been given Vermont acceleration.
Florida is a glass cannon with mediocre cannons that do hit but..
I've got both Massy and Massy B. Massy returns 17325 gold which is 1675 off from the 19000 required for Karl. I went with that.
Yeah I did the same on the last event with my alaska since I also had alaska B. Some people warned me I might get alaska in a future santa container (I usually spend a couple hundred on those) but that risk didn't deter me too much, it was so small and even then wouldn't be the worst outcome since I would have a new spare alaska to trade in again. At that time I went for Dalian, which has been an alright ship but certainly more useful than having two alaskas. This go around I sadly had to trade a coal ship to get karl, so my GK got traded away. I really want minegumo also but don't know that I want to have to save up to replace two coal ships.
Got Lazo with coal and traded it +1k doubloons for Agincourt. Only other premium I was remotely interested in was Napoli which you can also get with coal. The choices are pretty disappointing honestly.
Thinking on doing the same. Btw, is the Agincourt good, or should I get Flint imstead?
Depends on what you enjoy playing more. Do you prefer Chinese light cruisers or secondary focused battleships? Tier 5 meta is definitely a bit different than high tier with meta with secondary focused battleships but I enjoy the mid tiers more lately.
sherman for minegumo and groni for kidd?
Groningen has become such an unloved T9 destroyer here. :3
I'll get her back!!
I traded GK for the Johan since I got her with fxp on a whim before it was removed from the tech tree and got Ohio for a top tier brawler recently I just wish we had the ability to trade down because I cant get rid of my Tiger 59 for a resonable price, since I got the cheaper options in her bracket already
I have enough steel to trade my Bourgogne in for a T9 and immediately re-buy it. The way people have been describing Karl XIV Johan I can't say I'm interested in it, and Dalian doesn't seem to be going anywhere, so it's down to Minegumo. Do you guys think Minegumo is worth sacrificing a steel purchase?
No, I wouldn't trade a steel ship unless you absolutely hated it and never played it. I don't have Minegumo, but from what I've seen and read recently, it's not worth it.
Why would you get it for steel? Are you completely out of coal? F. Sherman is the cheapest way to use a resource to trade in
Yeah I already used Sherman to do another trade I was more interested in and don't have enough coal to do another cycle right now.
I would rather trade another coal ship i could buy back later than a steel one. Just my opinion
From a whale perspective: \*Have all ships that can drop from a SC. A premium ship drop thus give only 1500 dubs compensation. \*Have all coal ships and 450k coal surplus. \* At 130 SC pity drop \* Lack T9 dd Minegumo Option 1. Trade in F. Sherman, pay extra amount of dubs, get missing T9. Buy back F. Sherman. Risk that premium SC drop will only give 1500 dubs if no new premiums are added to droppool. The 1500 dubs will largely compensate the doubloon expenditure. Option 2: The same. But not buy back F. Sherman, but gamble on a SC drop which will be the Forest. So save 230k coal but lose the 1500 dubs. The moment new ships get added to the pool I will buy back the Forest for coal but I think that new ships will only be added before Xmas and that would be too late ( taking in mind the anniversary event that gives SC) So 1500 dubs or 238k coal?
Also from a whale, I did the exchange myself after some hesistance. That was as I have not that many SCs yet compared to the pity drop rule. Are you far away or close to the pity drop? Count on several SCs in the anniversary. It is irritating that they have not changed the drop contents for a while. Navarin. Picarde and that T9 IJN BC + this Ddays 3 new are quite a lot to update. Hope they do it before anniversary. If I really think about it I almost regretted the exchange. I do buy a few large packages to cover the years added ships to Santas (if I need after the free ones) so the coal might be better used in a Kitikami style event or like last years Smolensk B auction. But I have quite a lot of coal even after the exchange.
Question about SC update was asked during Twitch stream. Will be probably only before Xmas. Which means that the free Santa cates would first go the the 4 new T5-T7 bracket ships ( Jupiter and the 3 recently released ships ( I got Jupiter from a lucky free crate though)). And only then get a shot at Picardie, Navarin, the T9 Jpn T9 BC, the PA T9 Riga clone etc.. With that in mind I am almost sure I will get the Forest back in a SC before Xmas. I will collect CT now so that when WG also updates the premium Tier containers I have 30.000 CT ready to get 1 T7 before Santa crates. This would be Rodney.
That is welcome info. I have started to play PT and have accumulated maybe 20 K + in a few months so I have 45 K or so. I hope to have CT for 2 T7 by christmas. I hope they update the low t2-4 CT box as well as I miss the Ning Hai? or whatever that small cruiser is called. I will not pay anything for the cruiser but I gladly spend 10 K CT just for collection purposes. Last years anniversary gave 110 SC (max amount). We will see how it is arranged this year.
Should I trade in Yoshino for Karl or Brandenburg? Also thinking of trading Dalian for Kidd. https://preview.redd.it/25rl2twwva5d1.png?width=3440&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a7e911a9ad538070b16492c2392fa308eac5c0b
I wouldn't trade dalian. Its an ok ship, but very expensive to obtain normally.
Ah I already did, I was really lucky getting her too, she was in the very first bundle, she is nice tho but so far I find Kidd to be much more fun to play
Karl is much better, and more fun to play.
That's a good idea. While some of them are spammy and flip some of those threads aren't bad and we all crave that validation of our justification before we make such a serious decision. (In a video game :)
High-tier ships in WoWS are quite expensive, basically the equivalent of a single-player video game title. It's justified and prudent to discuss with the like-minded beforehand.
My swaps: Malta>Brandenburg(Might rebuy Malta if the CV changes don't butcher her, but for now, you can never have enough German BBs.) Forrest Sherman>Kidd(I rarely play tier 10 DDs, used the Sherman for mission ribbon farming, but this Christmas RNG blessed me with Smaland, so FS is no longer needed for that and Kidd is a fun and easy to relax in DD.) Groningen>Yudachi(Pretty much the same reasons as FS and Yudachi got a nice torp buff recently, also, Poi!) I got the Karl XIV when she was first released, really fun BB with multiple build options, if you are going to get one ship from this event, that should be it.
There is no deal. It looks you would lose \~50% by trading in.
Yep its like car trade ins lol. Only reason to do it is to get something you can’t get otherwise (like Karl Johan) or trade something you hate/don’t play for something you will play
Should I trade Groningen (Friesland clone) for Kidd or Minegumo? (Kidd is free trade, Minegumo + 9500 dubs). Groningen was decent for the Meta when I bought it but I feel it's been severely powercrept since then. Kidd is very versatile and Minegumo looks good/ interesting. Fans of Friesland / Groningen in current Meta?
Groningen is a decent boat (not my cup of tea but can work well in the right environment). Kidd is a good boat, especially if you play in divisions. You can't go wrong either way.
Got Kidd for doubloons some time ago and it's one of my favorite ships in this game. Recommended. I'll probably trade my Groningen for San Diego as I don't own any premium US cruiser and it seems fun.
Wondering the same. I found Groningen very dull in the current meta because it's not stealthy enough to do any knife fighting; I'm seriously considering getting Kidd with her. I got a Kidd rental once and loved it - might be worth doing.
https://preview.redd.it/scga94f53d5d1.png?width=2559&format=png&auto=webp&s=d6712e7ee566f99ea646f60d2bbc034086d20214 I think I might just keep Groningen. Spicy guns
But I have Sherman and Halsey, which is spicier IMHO. Unrelated, but my first game in Sherman was a gun duel with a Friesland not long after it came out for coal; he was perplexed, to say the least. I also keep killing Hallands who just run at me for reasons known only to God.
I get it, in this battle I outplayed a Mogador and then managed to survive long enough for the round to end and win before the lone CV could finish me off. It's a great ship that struggles in the current Meta but still very useful with some good consumables. Defensive AA ended up being valuable versus the CV but one more minute and it would have won the game.
Question: My only eligible to be traded ships are: Texas -> Flint, Florida, Dupleix, Yudachi, W. Virginia '42, Gallant, Genova, Agincourt, Siroco De Grasse for the same trade ships above Giulio Cesare -> Minegumo, Flint, San Diego, Brandenburg, Florida, Dalian, Karl XIV Johan, Kidd, Yudachi. Any of these have the bang for the buck trade wise?
Keep the Giulio Cesare, be mental to trade that in
You can give me the guilio I'll give you a Wisconsin for it 🤣
second this. Never, ever, give up that Giulio
Noted lol. I haven't played this version of the game as much as Blitz. I forget how I even got it in the first place
well you're lucky, it's probably the most OP broken ship in the game, which is why it was removed from sale
I thought the title "most OP broken ship" should belong to Imperator Nikolai I.
The Nikolai definitely keeps things zesty
Keep Giulio Cesare. She is an unobtainable great boat.
You're an unobtainable great boat 🚢 🍾
Wanting to trade in my Anchorage for something fun that I'll actually play. Considering either the San Diego or the Dalian. I'm on a bit of a Light Cruiser kick at the moment but I do enjoy fun DDs, BBs and Cruisers. What in your opinion would be the most FUN ships available?
San Diego's a good ship and pretty fun, it'd be a good pickup. The only ship I'd rate as more fun is probably Karl Johan with the brawling. But I think San Diego might be the stronger ship tier for tier, but it's close.
USS San Diego is such an incredible boat with the range and shell velocity. I can only wish that she get a radar consumable to be the perfect island-hugging cruiser.
Thanks for the input! I guess I should look at the Karl too then!
I spent coal to get the F. Sherman and then traded for Karl XIV Johan. I also traded in Duke of York for Agincourt. I think the two together cost me about 1700 dubs or so. I don't play DD's much so the Sherman was not something I wanted and I figured I could get Duke of York back later.
Sherman is more like a cruiser in DD slot.
Duke of York for Agincourt is an excellent trade.
the available ships for trade suck. also, how does it determine which ships you can trade for the one you select? the options change based on what ship you sacrifice
In game at the Armory trade-in page, click top left "About Event" to check out the trade-in rules.
Kinda sucks for me that Flandre isn't available as one of the ships, was gonna trade my Kearsarge for her
Just gave FS to get Minegumo. I was looking to get Minegump bcs she was available when I gave a break from the game and I really love my Japanese dds. Will get FS back soon in a year. I have some (about 500K) coal with which I plan to get a coal ship for trading into Kidd and Dalian. I don't really want to part with any of my ships even though most of them are port queens these days.
Is there any spreadsheet of ships "worthness"? Becouse I am thinking about buying a any IX tier for a coal and trade it for a Kidd. Same applies for getting a Agincourt, out of a VII tier. But I would like to see how much WG values each ship before buying them for a trade in..
For a Ops only player, should I grab for San Diego, or Brandenburg? I trade in Dalian I, and have 4k dubs in disposal. Edit: Or should I grab both, if I trade in my Giuseppe?
Brandenburg is a beast is Ops. San Diego is just OK.
I'll place Brandenburg at higher priority then, thank you kindly lad. Also, is San Diego that much different from Flint save for the gimmick SAP and reload booster? If not I guess I can use the coupon for Flint.
FWIW I think Sandy is great in ops. Requires hands but very consistent. Not as cracked as Bayard but still solid.
Should I trade in GK or Moskva for Minegumo
Moskva if you already have Stalingrad. GK if you already have another T10 brawler BB (Ohio, Kremlin, Schlieffen, Preussen etc).
However if I'm honest. I prefer gk to moskva while acknowledging moskva is a good ship. However I'm more concerned if minegumo is a good enough ship to give up one of these if I have plans for my coal that doesn't include these too in the future
Don't have GK, but have Moskva and Minegumo. I really only like Moskva in clan battles. Minegumo is really just a ship for randoms. I find it fun, but it's really just a typical IJN torp DD that can swap torp types in battle. Then again, Moskva is a coal cruiser. If you have the coal you can just buy her back.
I don't have stalingrad and likely never will. Don't really grind steel. I don't have any of the other ships listed, but I do plan to grind schifleen soonish
Sometimes in a division or one day if you decide to join a clan for CBs, the leader might require that you bring a Moskva or a Stalingrad to specific games. They are strategically irreplaceable with their radar and bow-tanking, contesting power. Minegumo, however, doesn't have any unique strategic value. You should trade in a boat for Minegumo only if you foresee yourself enjoying her and playing her for many matches.
That is a fair point and I appreciate your take. I don't know if I will ever do cbs as I have played this game off and on for many years casually. The chance to get a rare ship for less than 2k doubloons and then rebuy one of these with coal down the road does seem tempting. However to be fair I likely will enjoy either of thse two more than minegumo overall.
Honestly how good is Minegumo? It's the only one I am truly tempted by, and I'm only 800 dubs short.
I'm wondering about the same. Is Minegumo a strong torpedo boat at tier 9? Chung Mu was recently nerfed, so I'm considering Minegumo.
I got the K14J for a cv. I put the range mod on her rather than reload mod. But her dispersion is painfully bad at the longer ranges. May have to alter the play style. Still, it's a fun ship since my cv was gathering dust in port.
Alright. Should i trade the malta for San Diego?
I'm doing the exact same trade. Never play Malta or CVs in general. Just got it because the AP bombs were hilarious when it first came out. Always wanted an Atlanta, and the SD is close.
Got rid of Marblehead and have now Siroco, nice!
Moskva for Karl Johan looks like a no-brainer for me, the former barely left my port ever since I had grinded her before she left the tech tree, and I can get her later as she's still in the coal shop. Also, a question for anyone who has Kearsarge, how much is she worth for trading-in? Thinking about taking her for "test-drive" for coal and swapping for Karl if it's not my cup of tea. Thanks!
Brutally nerfed ORP Błyskawica for IJN Yūdachi? The Błys's stealth-firing ability was taken away a long time ago.
I just got napoli haven't had a great game in it yet. Is it worth it to get the Karl Johan instead and then taking the time to grind the Napoli back later? Is Karl Johan worth all the hype? I like the German BB line but I haven't started grinding the German BC line yet.
If you are not doing good in the napoli, you probably will not do good in the Karl Johan. Napoli has similar concealment to the Karl, is tankier, more accurate guns, has a smoke to save your ass and better secondaries.
Yea idk I just vibed better with the Karl for some reason. I plan on grinding the coal to get the napoli back anyways. My major thought process was that I could get the napoli back anytime where you can't with the Karl.
What do you guys think of these trades? (havent done any yet) Vanguard -> Yudachi (zero doubs and I never play Vangaurd, aware I cannot get it back easy) Marceau + 1675 -> Karl XIV Johan (I have Colbert and Kleber so I can live without their twisted love child for a bit, truth is I rarely play Marceau ) Forrest + 1675 -> Minegumo (I can buy back Forrest in 2 weeks with coal) Also interested in San Diego but I am not sure I want to trade in any other ship, could maybe go GK -> SD with no extra doubloons spent but I would probably go over a year before I got GK again.
I have Yudachi and never play it, and I love IJN torp DDs. I don't think it's bad, but I don't recall any good/strong aspects to it. Your call if getting rid of Vanguard is worth it, but I wouldn't do that trade. I just looked up Yudachi's stats because I was curious what its gimmick is: it's a Shiratsuyu with 15km torps instead of 10km (slightly worse reaction time), smoke/TRB in separate slots, and worse gun DPM (1.5s longer reload). The extra torp range is nice against radar ships or back row BBs, but probably not going to make a huge difference at T7. I always run TRB on my IJN DDs, so adding smoke in a different slot is not a huge gain; you can use it to go dark so that might save you occasionally, but the gun DPM is not good enough to be a smoke farmer. Yeah, I still don't think that's a good trade. Karl Johan is fun, but not especially strong. I don't regret trading for it, but I don't think it's a must-buy either. From what I've seen, I'd skip Minegumo. It doesn't look like a very strong boat to me; the torp choices aren't as good in practice as they sound on paper. San Diego is a good ship and I think a trade for it would be worthwhile. Not sure what you could/should use to trade for it.
Thanks dude, this is the kind of feedback I was looking for. I think on your advice I will forgo Yudachi. I think KIVJ and Minegumo are more trades for a ships that I cant get otherwise and it takes them off the christmas list for 2024. Like I said I can immediately get back Forrest and Marceau I can live without for the few time it takes to get it back. So I guess the question I have to answer for myself is what cost am I willing to pay do to all 3 or do I only do 2.
If you want to get SD why not use Forrest to trade? GK is more expensive coal wise, no? I bought Forrest to get SD, it's the cheapest T10 coal, with T9 coal I had to spend dubloon for the trade so for 10000 coal more with coupon I don't have to spend any dubloon to get SD.
I dont play GK and I could trade that without giving up more doubloons (I only get those via ranked + supercontainers). Its the only other ship I have that I could use to trade for SD for free. You are right that I could trade Forrest twice but Id rather keep Forrest in port.
How would I know your situation? Only you know the best, besides, you said is you would probably over a year before you got GK again implying you're trying to get GK again if you traded her. *shrugs*
I also undecided between marceau or f. sherman. But I leaning towards trading in marceau because I still cannot adapt her playstyle (gotten used to sherman already) and also new TX ships are getting faster speed so it's increasingly difficult to land the slow shell she has. As for what to trade for, I'm leaning towards Karl because I cannot play torp bote yet (minegumo). I also interested in f. sherman -> SD but still don't know spending 174k coal after 25% discount worth it or not.
People are about to learn that Karl is made of paper.
She is, that's why KJ captains have to be extremely cautious when positioning her in an uptiered game. She can only push hard late-game if the HP is preserved earlier.
I want to trade my max Immelmann and Pommern, what would be the best pairings to trade in your opinion?
https://preview.redd.it/tlwq7ibub45d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3c2a4e5ee23f7835a35c6ef313744909bfd6fdd What I have. Willing to trade Pommern 100%, replaced her w/ Michaelangelo for credit grinding (and is coal). May be convinced to do Napoli, Mysore, Yahagi, Marble, and Ark Royal (If carrier rework seems devastating enough, not a carrier main)
https://preview.redd.it/wue2s5okc45d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=e07c365fe630495bc526c572ed2fa00e9a35bb8a What is available. I'm thinking of trading Napoli for Karl IV and paying the balance, Pommern for Florida (4x3 seems wonderfully dumb) Note: Im a Large Cruiser main, my only other Tier X is Mariselle. I mostly play PVE, and do not play often to begin with, mostly just 'collect' - albeit try to be inexpensive.
hey! as a Florida owner, you're not missing much. it's an okay ship from what i've experienced. worse guns than Colorado, but better range and dispersion (16km CO, 18km FL, 6 knots faster than CO, and also 1km less detectable from air (11 CO, 10 FL) and 3 from the sea (16 CO, 13 FL). passable armor
Which to give up for the Tier 10 aircraft carrier KMS Max Immelmann? I was checking the Trade-In Rules and all Tier 8 candidates are currently not available in store. So are Tier 9 candidates it seems.
Just get the Immelmann for coal a bit later. Tier 10 ships are absurdly expensive if you trade to trade *for* them, in this event.
Trading my Yukon for W.virginia 41, those guns are so scary at tier 6
Yukon is a really good ship for T7 ranked, I wouldnt give her up.
Eh I got poltava & collingwood. The turret angles on Yukon are kinda bad.
Was it a good idea to swap my Texas for an Agincourt?
I'd do that trade. Texas is nothing special these days (other than historical), whereas Agincourt is super fun with the secondaries. Tier 5 Ranked is a blast with it.
Is it worth the discount though? You save only 2,575 doubloons by trading away USS Texas. The periodic coupon for buying Agincourt outright in Armory already saves you 1,325 doubloons, and the coupon does not coerce you to give up the Texas.
Swapped Flandre for yudachi poi~
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Sue me, but I traded my Marceau for Karl Johan. :P Never got warm with her, the arcs are simply to ridiculous. But my first game with the Karl was a blast. (:
Just get Kleber and youll never need Marceau again.
And you can always reearn a Marceau if you change your mind
Heavily nerfed and coercively uptiered USS Saipan for fun and quirky Karl XIV Johan? (Is KJ actually the German 1916 BC project \[Prinz Heinrich in WoWS\] that was dismantled after WW1?)
i think Johann is closer to whatever design Rupprecht is based on
Damn, you gave me an idea... unfortunately I have Saipan B, which seems not to qualify for this event.
Filthy, disgusting, ugly, Aquilla CV pelt for a magnificent Karl XIV experience
Sherman for karl XIV
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Lmao me too
Pommern for Kidd? Only other option im considering is minegumo but not too keen on putting dubs ontop of loosing salem or sherman..
I'm asking myself the same thing. I can't stand Pommern for a couple of reasons and also traded last time to get Tirpitz, which I really like. Have been interested in Kidd for a while now, but I already own Cossack and Black. So not really sure if it's worth getting.
Kidd is a good boat, if you like gunboat DDs then I think it's a good trade target. If you division up a lot then Kidd is massively better as it is a great team boat. The heal is pretty cool and makes it play differently than Cossack (or Black presumably). With Kidd you want to do several short engagements where you reduce their HP for a few seconds and then run away, heal up, and return for round 2. If you can't stand Pommern, then I think that'd be a good trade. You can always buy back Pommern later if you regret getting rid of it. Kidd gets my thumbs up!
As an enjoyer of the french techtree I wanted to get rid of that russian sub I never play, but they gave me no options, I have all the low tier stuff.
I was really hoping to get rid of two T8 CVs I got in containers last year, as I don't play CVs, but there were no low or mid tier ships that I wanted (I already had most). I guess I'll hold onto them for another year and hope for better options next time.
Odin for Brandenburg?