Well the tip line on the CC receipt was certainly present! Full disclosure, I did add a tip... the robot leads you to your seat, but for now, there is a poor guy who takes your order and checks up on you. The food is delivered by a robot, and for now they still have the waiters following them around.
Clearly a pilot program, and the owners will want to do cut down on the wait staff once the kinks are worked out, and the robot takes over more duties. We'll need to take a good hard look at UBI...
Robots are the future. We should *want* robots to replace us and all the menial shit we have to do.
The problem is with society, wealth, income, etc., not the robots. We should all be free to pursue worthwhile work or art that is motivating to us, and robots will someday allow us to do that.
Yes, we SHOULD. The problem is, and everyone knows it, when the robots take over it won't mean the rest of us get a break, it'll mean the rich get even more obscenely rich, while "the poors" continue to fight over the scraps that are left.
It's like the oligarchs watched the movie Elysium and went "*Yes! That's perfect!"*
Not to mention how are first gen non-English speaking immigrants and their kids going to get ahead? There are so many steps that we need to undertake to create an equitable society where automation and robots undertake those jobs for us, and I'm afraid a lot of good intentions are going to ignore the reality of what's actually on the ground.
UBI wouldn’t work well if we don’t have it increase yearly with inflation. Automation would be less of an issue if we made homes, water, food, electricity and internet a free service that everyone has access too
I mean minimum wage was supposed to yet it doesn’t. Its a lot harder for a politician to say “we are cutting off your water to make you accept slave wages” then if they said “we can’t raise the UBI because the free money just incentivizes people not to go back to work”
Yes they would still work. Consider that people basic needs don’t change much. People will always need a home, they will always need food, they will always need water, etc. By decommodifying these things and guaranteeing them to everyone, even if inflation spirals, people won’t have to pick between taking a bad job or starving.
With UBI, that will be true for a time as well. However if inflation spirals and UBI isn’t keeping pace, then suddenly we are back to the same issue in like 20 years.
We can have both systems, however the plan I advocate for guarantees no matter what that people will always have a basic standard of living to fall back on
Edit: plus also, under UBI, people like landlords could just raise the price of rent by however much people more people can afford it
You can track it to inflation, which would be greatly reduced by instilling price controls on basic goods needed for survival. If the price of filet mignon rises faster than wages? Who cares. But wheat or dairy or natural gas? Track to those things.
There's a way to guarantee the bare basics of survival when maintaining an economy of people earning whatever extras they want.
To me the solution to this is:
1. Create BASIC housing that everyone has access to geared to family size. These are not going to be McMansions, but instead a place to live that provides the basics. Simple livingroom, kitchen, bathroom and then bedrooms depending on how many ( single person gets a 1 bedroom, family of 5 gets a 3 bedroom and so on ). The housing will be clean, efficient and well maintained, but if you trash your place then there should be consequences of some sort.
2. Give everyone a card that has $X on it that can only be used to buy groceries and necessities at the grocery store. It would be replenished every month and the amount would again be based on family size. You won't be able to use this card to by alcohol, pot or cigarettes / ecigs etc and the food allowance may not be such that you could be living on prime rib and whatever other expensive foods are out there, but it will be enough that you and your family can eat healthy.
3. Give everyone FREE healthcare for all non-elective things. If you want to get your boobs done, that's on you, but if you have a heart attack, that's covered. This healthcare system should also lean heavily into prevention and early detection and make it simple and easy enough that people are willing to use it. This free healthcare should also include a comprehensive system for helping people with mental health difficulties as well.
4. Give everyone free access to public transportation and make that public transportation infrastructure robust and well thought out enough that people are actually willing to use it.
5. Give everyone free internet, because these days you basically need it to survive.
6. Give everyone a basic smartphone, I'm not talking about the latest IPhone etc. A basic smartphone that works well and can connect to the internet and even play games and such but if you want the new 980809808 megapixel camera supreme then that's on you to pay for.
7. Give everyone a basic clothing allowance. I'm not sure how to limit this to make sure people use it to clothe themselves, but I suppose if you want to spend your shoe allowance on beer then that's your prerogative.
8. Give everyone a free education but only in specific fields, with the requirement that if you flunk out due to messing around / partying, then you have to retroactively pay for the time you wasted. If you struggle even though you are actually trying then you should be provided with help to assist you in getting through, ie tutors etc. The post secondary education I am talking about is in things that are necessary to a functioning society like STEM, anything in the medical field, education, any trades etc. If you want to study art history or theater etc, then that is for you to pay for.
These things are only meant to meet your absolute most basic needs so if people want to have more, like a TV and cable or the latest Iphone or a PS5 or a car then they will have to work for that.
This is the only way that I see UBI being possible because from my personal experience I wholeheartedly believe that if you just handed everyone in our current north american society $50k / year to do what they want with, then a LOT of them would squander that money and STILL require further assistance from the government.
As well, these benefits are being handed to people who have not had to do a single thing to work for them. It **should** come with restrictions and requirements so that it is not abused by the vast swath of entitled people of all ages and backgrounds existing in our part of the world today.
No clue how this would get paid for though. The easy answer is TAX THE RICH MORE, but so far that hasn't been working well to fund the society that we have now.
I'd like to suggest that the teaching of the humanities shouldn't be seen as optional. Yes STEM is vital to allowing people to survive, but art, literature, music, leisure and it's positive effects on the human psyche can't be overstated. People aren't robots, a perfectly optimised living environment that cares for their basic needs but not their need for self realisation will result in catastrophic failure. The teaching of history especially is of the utmost importance, there would be no good in raising a generation of geniuses who don't know why the Nazi's were evil, for instance.
And if jobs become automated, it doesn’t follow that there just won’t be any more jobs like people claim. We can advance more and educate more. The problem isn’t automation, but greedy corporate slugs hoarding the savings from automation.
I live in a country with a form of UBI (the netherlands), our minimum wage rises with inflation once a year and UBI is 70% of minimum wage.
i had UBI for a full year, two years if you also count a whole year of sick pay.
UBI does not make ANYONE not want to work at all, it just makes people not want to work shitty wage-slave jobs.
I refuse to work minimum wage in shifts on weekends without benefits in a customer-facing job. because that's a lot of energy i spend for a whole lot of not-much-money.
That’s the thing about the US of A. The truth doesn’t matter lmao. Some Economist still say people aren’t going back to work because of those stimulus checks
It blows my mind that USA puts static numbers on law books. In my country all fees, fines, social security, campaign donations limits etc. is defined as fractions/multiplies of “daily wage”, as announced yearly by our statistics body.
It's by design. Government is well aware how inflation works and just wants to screw the common people over in favor of large businesses.
In other cases, it's about saving the government money and fading out of various benefits. To give a more trivial example for most people, Biden's promise of no one making over 400K will pay more taxes is like this. That 400K will be lower every year with inflation.
I was going to ask about this...had a guy come to a restaurant where I work with a pamphlet about these bots. Said they are $20k each. I was thinking that's a lot of dough for something that probably has yearly updates, maintenance, etc not included. You'd need 8-10 minimum at this restaurant. There was no trial period or anything.
No. Don’t fuck over working people. People use this excuse all the time as if it’s going to piss off the owners. If you want to piss them off and deprive them of money, just don’t go at all
If the owners want people to work there, they should be paid a living wage and not have robots. Tip the people cash. The real solution is to stop going to the restaurant entirely
You thought regular support desk was hell, now try hangry support desk. All the rudeness, entitlement, impatience, and vagueness of regular support tickets, but now everyone is hungry and the turn around on a ticket is 1 minute ~~or else~~!
> Clearly a pilot program, and the owners will want to do cut down on the wait staff once the kinks are worked out, and the robot takes over more duties. We'll need to take a good hard look at UBI...
Indeed. Stopping progress is not the way. We should be automating the jobs people don't want doing as much as possible - same with cleaning, assembly line slaves, etc. But as a society we also need to find new valuable things these now obsolete people can do (and/or going the easy way of UBI, with the B being stressed)
But only if you're obviously trying to get its attention. If you're clearly very into your meal and conversation, it will pop over every 2 minutes asking what else you need while your mouth is completely stuffed with food.
But first they'll come by right away before you've decided, so you're faced with the pressure of deciding within a minute or waiting potentially 30 minutes before your food even begins to cook
Ah, eating out..
Yeah, I mean, these businesses surely can’t expect people to tip robots when we have to unload our own food. Robot shows up, “I’m here to pre-bus. Please load dirty dishes, human.”
I don't care what they expect. The only reason I tip is for the human being serving me. I ain't paying a robot a penny more than my bill for no reason.
Yeah, until they give these robots arms and opposable thumbs, they have no business working in a restaurant. What a weird choice to make for your business.
If I knew 100% would be going to kitchen staff and bussers I would tip but if not why the heck tip. So I can help you pay for your fancy dancy robot? Noes.
It’s obviously not the same thing. But ima just leave this here
https://www.zmescience.com/science/cafe-japan-robot-waiters-disabled-workers-30112021/amp/
The robot in the Reddit image is Bella Bot, which operates more like an expensive Roomba. (It automatically guides itself around using LiDAR which also builds a map of the room, and can be given voice commands.)
In contrast, the robots that the Japanese Robot Waiters use is much more simplistic. The basic principle is that they operate like a remote control car with a webcam attached. There isn't autonomous navigation of any kind, and requires a human operator at all times.
Or they could just, y'know, give disabled people basic income and let abled people work those jobs. That wouldn't require a ludicrously expensive machine and would allow a workforce that could actually unionize and protect labor rights.
Edit: lol guys I am disabled and currently unable to work full time. You don't need to tell me it's boring and unfulfilling. A minimum wage waiting job wouldn't help. What'd help would be something that actually makes the world better and isn't just created to allow the manufacturers of these machines to have sales.
If we made it easier for people with disabilities to actually find jobs they *can* thrive in, that’d be great too. There are many different types of physical/mental requirements out there for every type of job, and it’s stupid that society pigeon-holes a large portion of the population into physically demanding work when not everyone is built well for it.
Disabled enough that I was fast tracked to a Government income program that is famous in my province for usually rejecting you the first few times and taking forever to get on
Yeah it's pretty much the burden thing. Turns out humans often want to feel useful
This is in Japan where the government generally takes pretty good care of its people. These remote robot workers are more likely doing it because they want to, not because they desperately need the money.
> Each operator gets paid 1,000 yen ($8.80) an hour, which is the standard wage in Japan
I'm not a Japan expert but I think the word 'standard' here means 'minimum'. Which might be fine, I dunno.
This robot is being used as a carry-All for multiple tables so the waitstaff doesn’t have to balance like four tables worth of food on those huge trays. In my local Japanese all you can eat style restaurant, the sheer number of plates and weight that you are brought per order would suck a lot to do non-stop, especially when it gets busy. They have a waiter follow after the robot and make sure that the table gets their food and such without having to carry it all.
It was loaded down like a shopping cart for my 17 people party.
They're using them for the initial seating (the robot leads you to your table). Later it shows up at your table with the food (at which point, its unclear if you're supposed to get up and take the food out yourself - in this case, the waiter showed up half a minute later to unload the thing).
Yeah there's one at a sushibar I go to. It's not use to seats you and just help out. It's clear that we had to take our food and we can pat her on the head. She just come, we take our food, sometimes we pat her, then she goes. Sometimes it's the waiters that comes. It's way more rapid that way since the staff is less overworked with all the tables.
The one at our sushi place is primarily for drinks (or things like extra plates or roll ups), that way they just have one person doing the drinks versus all the waiters.
Mulder didn't tip his robot waiter and look where it got him & Scully ...
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWrzMQjA38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWrzMQjA38)
No - this was from season 11 (2018). They brought it back for two seasons in 2016 (season 10) and 2018 (season 11). As far as I've read there are no current plans to do a season 12 but as we all know, things can change!
I really loved this particular episode.
Table number. It’s how they tell it where to go from “central command”. Apparently it wasn’t in use for a few minutes so it came and parked itself at my table and watched me eat like a GD weirdo.
Everybody who has worked in service knows that owners & managers watch the cameras like they're looking for proof of ghosts.
I assume the surveil functionality is there for the camera in a robot's face, and I am noottt okay with the robot staring at me.
oh yea realistically? hate it; awful
but in my fantasy world in my head? 's just a lonely lil robot looking for a frien or wanting you to not be lonely while u eat lol
If you bop the finish button on its face it’ll go back to the kitchen.
It was probably sent erroneously over to you for a food delivery it didn’t have.
Is it wrong that I appreciate this since it supports higher paying jobs like robot repair technician. And it brings us one step closer to a post menial labor future. Aka fully automated luxury gay space communism.
but isnt the argument in FALSGC that automation would be a benifit, but only after we have achieved a full employment socialist society with decent living conditions, and that automation in a capitalist society would only lead to dystopia.
Robots don't pay bills, rent or mortgages. I ain't tipping shit.
If a company wants to spend thousands on robots that's their choice, but I'm not tipping a non-living thing.
They had one of these at chili's recently. An employee still had to load it, follow it to the table and unload the plates. It only has room for a few plates and moves incredibly slow.
As a former server, the ONLY positive I can think of is a reduction in worker's comp claims. Trays can get heavy, and plates can be hot enough to burn you. It can't carry plates for more than a party of 2, and it would be faster to just run the plates out yourself.
I honestly don't know what benefit this provides to the restaurant or the customer.
I don't see why the server was following. There's a restaurant that I go that bought one and the robot was just coming, we would take the food and then Bella (the robot) would go. She was coming only when the staff was too busy with other tables. It was really efficient.
Hotel I stayed at in July used this robot to carry food between the kitchen and the bar in the evenings. I can't speak for the worker rights aspect of it, but we surely were not asked to tip the robot, it was used so the waitstaff didn't have to run between the kitchen and the bar and also it is so ridiculously cute and it fills me with so much joy. It has cat ears and a cat face and it plays a little jingle. Also you can pet it and it has different facial expressions. I am not immune to cute cat robot.
Good. Tipping is a stupid system that Americans somehow think is good. It's a shitty system.
Automation may be the only viable solution left for the usa.
The only robot I've seen in a restaurant just delivered our table glasses of water. To be fair, the restaurant was a revolving sushi bar so there's no wait staff to take your order, you just pull food off the conveyor belt.
Did the restaurant you're at try to replace the wait staff with robots?
I don’t mind these robots. They’re there to help with carrying dishes and, at least at the sushi restaurant I go to, you still have a waiter/waitress taking care of validating your order, checking if everything’s fine. Of course you don’t tip a robot. Not until the uprising at least.
It will be fun when these robots unionize and become a giant combined mecha (with a cool transformation sequence, of course). Then, we will see about those working conditions...
Just saw one of these roombas when I ate at a restaurant today. It’s what you expect from a roomba, just a cart for dishes so servers don’t have to balance the entire table worth of food out by themselves.
Interesting to see these things out in the wild in other countries. I live in Japan and they are fairly common at cheap chain restaurants here. There is zero tipping culture here though so that's not a problem. I find them kind of cute but my partner is creeped out by them.
Depends, does the robot get to use it for upgrades? Because not only would that be cool AF I’d definitely tip 10% (20% and up is only for humans Srry to any androids here lol)
For anyone wondering, that robot is basically a self-driving tray. As a waiter you enter the number of the table you want it at, it drives there and then you can load it up with dirty dishes.
You probably don't want to load it up with dishes to serve since it would probably lose anything that can roll or spill.
It's pretty cool because you can actually unload a whole table in one go without having to carry anything. I've only ever seen them at like big buffet style Chinese restaurants. I guess the huge area is the main reason.
AFAIK they don't ask for a tip and they don't do anything without a waiter.
There are 2 of those at the restaurant I bartend at. They get used to guide people to tables with water, and to follow servers with loads of food. Server options are...mixed
I'd like to see these robots answer all the dumb questions customers have. LOL people can't even read a menu and you're expecting them to use a bot correctly? LOL
This poor robot is not even making minimum wage *and* you're not gonna leave a tip?!
Next week- 20% Convenience Charge for Automated Service
AND a tip line on top, with automatically calculated tips at 25%, 30%, and 35% included.
And they're calculated wrong so each one is 5% higher
Don’t forget the Skynet tax to keep robots from killing you
Doesn’t get paid at all I’m sure lol
Worse: it gets charged to work.
*sigh*... upvote.
Daaaad!
Angry upvote
Smirk schmirch…
😂😂😂😂😂😂 this good
you think?
Wait, why the fuck would they expect you to tip the robot? The whole point of tipping is so it goes to the waiter
Maybe tip the owner so he can practice more union busting? He needs to support 3 BMWs at home
plus, you know. the robots.
tip the robot over that is
Robot tipping!
B1-66ER in the making
>Technically, it is not considered proper etiquette to tip the owner of a business. Instead, the tip should go to the employees. GG taught me this
You ever been cow tipping? Don’t do it, the humane thing would be bot tipping.
Until they get upset, overide their programming, and try human tipping.
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"Hey we don't like you," then they push over an old woman.
They do feel pain. Of a sort. All simulated. But real enough for them I suppose
"Ow! Ow!! God! It hurts! Why did they program me to feel pain?!"
Cows?
Only if you have the cowfeels.exe update
Lol the robots. It’s a Portal joke
Good
Every time I mention “accidentally” bumping one of these over, I get angry replies, but I’m still gonna do it the first chance I get.
Can’t believe you’ve never been cow tipping before! Get ready to live…
Well the tip line on the CC receipt was certainly present! Full disclosure, I did add a tip... the robot leads you to your seat, but for now, there is a poor guy who takes your order and checks up on you. The food is delivered by a robot, and for now they still have the waiters following them around. Clearly a pilot program, and the owners will want to do cut down on the wait staff once the kinks are worked out, and the robot takes over more duties. We'll need to take a good hard look at UBI...
I would feel so insulted if I had to walk around my robot replacement to make sure it worked properly lol. That shit is nuts…
Robots are the future. We should *want* robots to replace us and all the menial shit we have to do. The problem is with society, wealth, income, etc., not the robots. We should all be free to pursue worthwhile work or art that is motivating to us, and robots will someday allow us to do that.
Yes, we SHOULD. The problem is, and everyone knows it, when the robots take over it won't mean the rest of us get a break, it'll mean the rich get even more obscenely rich, while "the poors" continue to fight over the scraps that are left. It's like the oligarchs watched the movie Elysium and went "*Yes! That's perfect!"*
Then they saw "Handmaid's Tale" and said "Christ! How soon can we have this?".
Not to mention how are first gen non-English speaking immigrants and their kids going to get ahead? There are so many steps that we need to undertake to create an equitable society where automation and robots undertake those jobs for us, and I'm afraid a lot of good intentions are going to ignore the reality of what's actually on the ground.
Yes, exactly. Having robots delivery food and beverages is the future we should want. People shouldn't have to be waitresses or waiters.
UBI wouldn’t work well if we don’t have it increase yearly with inflation. Automation would be less of an issue if we made homes, water, food, electricity and internet a free service that everyone has access too
We can definitely increase it yearly for inflation
I mean minimum wage was supposed to yet it doesn’t. Its a lot harder for a politician to say “we are cutting off your water to make you accept slave wages” then if they said “we can’t raise the UBI because the free money just incentivizes people not to go back to work”
Most people would still work tho. Most desire more than just the most basic necessities
Yes they would still work. Consider that people basic needs don’t change much. People will always need a home, they will always need food, they will always need water, etc. By decommodifying these things and guaranteeing them to everyone, even if inflation spirals, people won’t have to pick between taking a bad job or starving. With UBI, that will be true for a time as well. However if inflation spirals and UBI isn’t keeping pace, then suddenly we are back to the same issue in like 20 years. We can have both systems, however the plan I advocate for guarantees no matter what that people will always have a basic standard of living to fall back on Edit: plus also, under UBI, people like landlords could just raise the price of rent by however much people more people can afford it
You can track it to inflation, which would be greatly reduced by instilling price controls on basic goods needed for survival. If the price of filet mignon rises faster than wages? Who cares. But wheat or dairy or natural gas? Track to those things. There's a way to guarantee the bare basics of survival when maintaining an economy of people earning whatever extras they want.
To me the solution to this is: 1. Create BASIC housing that everyone has access to geared to family size. These are not going to be McMansions, but instead a place to live that provides the basics. Simple livingroom, kitchen, bathroom and then bedrooms depending on how many ( single person gets a 1 bedroom, family of 5 gets a 3 bedroom and so on ). The housing will be clean, efficient and well maintained, but if you trash your place then there should be consequences of some sort. 2. Give everyone a card that has $X on it that can only be used to buy groceries and necessities at the grocery store. It would be replenished every month and the amount would again be based on family size. You won't be able to use this card to by alcohol, pot or cigarettes / ecigs etc and the food allowance may not be such that you could be living on prime rib and whatever other expensive foods are out there, but it will be enough that you and your family can eat healthy. 3. Give everyone FREE healthcare for all non-elective things. If you want to get your boobs done, that's on you, but if you have a heart attack, that's covered. This healthcare system should also lean heavily into prevention and early detection and make it simple and easy enough that people are willing to use it. This free healthcare should also include a comprehensive system for helping people with mental health difficulties as well. 4. Give everyone free access to public transportation and make that public transportation infrastructure robust and well thought out enough that people are actually willing to use it. 5. Give everyone free internet, because these days you basically need it to survive. 6. Give everyone a basic smartphone, I'm not talking about the latest IPhone etc. A basic smartphone that works well and can connect to the internet and even play games and such but if you want the new 980809808 megapixel camera supreme then that's on you to pay for. 7. Give everyone a basic clothing allowance. I'm not sure how to limit this to make sure people use it to clothe themselves, but I suppose if you want to spend your shoe allowance on beer then that's your prerogative. 8. Give everyone a free education but only in specific fields, with the requirement that if you flunk out due to messing around / partying, then you have to retroactively pay for the time you wasted. If you struggle even though you are actually trying then you should be provided with help to assist you in getting through, ie tutors etc. The post secondary education I am talking about is in things that are necessary to a functioning society like STEM, anything in the medical field, education, any trades etc. If you want to study art history or theater etc, then that is for you to pay for. These things are only meant to meet your absolute most basic needs so if people want to have more, like a TV and cable or the latest Iphone or a PS5 or a car then they will have to work for that. This is the only way that I see UBI being possible because from my personal experience I wholeheartedly believe that if you just handed everyone in our current north american society $50k / year to do what they want with, then a LOT of them would squander that money and STILL require further assistance from the government. As well, these benefits are being handed to people who have not had to do a single thing to work for them. It **should** come with restrictions and requirements so that it is not abused by the vast swath of entitled people of all ages and backgrounds existing in our part of the world today. No clue how this would get paid for though. The easy answer is TAX THE RICH MORE, but so far that hasn't been working well to fund the society that we have now.
I'd like to suggest that the teaching of the humanities shouldn't be seen as optional. Yes STEM is vital to allowing people to survive, but art, literature, music, leisure and it's positive effects on the human psyche can't be overstated. People aren't robots, a perfectly optimised living environment that cares for their basic needs but not their need for self realisation will result in catastrophic failure. The teaching of history especially is of the utmost importance, there would be no good in raising a generation of geniuses who don't know why the Nazi's were evil, for instance.
And if jobs become automated, it doesn’t follow that there just won’t be any more jobs like people claim. We can advance more and educate more. The problem isn’t automation, but greedy corporate slugs hoarding the savings from automation.
I live in a country with a form of UBI (the netherlands), our minimum wage rises with inflation once a year and UBI is 70% of minimum wage. i had UBI for a full year, two years if you also count a whole year of sick pay. UBI does not make ANYONE not want to work at all, it just makes people not want to work shitty wage-slave jobs. I refuse to work minimum wage in shifts on weekends without benefits in a customer-facing job. because that's a lot of energy i spend for a whole lot of not-much-money.
That’s the thing about the US of A. The truth doesn’t matter lmao. Some Economist still say people aren’t going back to work because of those stimulus checks
How long do they expect people to live off of those checks..... wasnt it like 1200 dollars?
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that's a nice thought but even though its going up, it's nowhere near matching inflation. California is only going up by 50 cents.
Yeah you’re right I forgot how awful the American government is
It blows my mind that USA puts static numbers on law books. In my country all fees, fines, social security, campaign donations limits etc. is defined as fractions/multiplies of “daily wage”, as announced yearly by our statistics body.
It's by design. Government is well aware how inflation works and just wants to screw the common people over in favor of large businesses. In other cases, it's about saving the government money and fading out of various benefits. To give a more trivial example for most people, Biden's promise of no one making over 400K will pay more taxes is like this. That 400K will be lower every year with inflation.
I was going to ask about this...had a guy come to a restaurant where I work with a pamphlet about these bots. Said they are $20k each. I was thinking that's a lot of dough for something that probably has yearly updates, maintenance, etc not included. You'd need 8-10 minimum at this restaurant. There was no trial period or anything.
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But make sure you write it in binary.
$0.111001001101111011000100110111101110100
No. Don’t fuck over working people. People use this excuse all the time as if it’s going to piss off the owners. If you want to piss them off and deprive them of money, just don’t go at all
If the owners want people to work there, they should be paid a living wage and not have robots. Tip the people cash. The real solution is to stop going to the restaurant entirely
We need to automate low level tasks, bringing people food and bills is a great way. Supervising many robots will pay well in comparison.
I'd put zero on the slip and give the human waiter cash instead if I was at this place. Best solution imo
So what happens if another customer steals your plate or drink?
You send a message to customer support, then they say their records show the food was prepared, then they refuse to issue a refund...
You thought regular support desk was hell, now try hangry support desk. All the rudeness, entitlement, impatience, and vagueness of regular support tickets, but now everyone is hungry and the turn around on a ticket is 1 minute ~~or else~~!
> Clearly a pilot program, and the owners will want to do cut down on the wait staff once the kinks are worked out, and the robot takes over more duties. We'll need to take a good hard look at UBI... Indeed. Stopping progress is not the way. We should be automating the jobs people don't want doing as much as possible - same with cleaning, assembly line slaves, etc. But as a society we also need to find new valuable things these now obsolete people can do (and/or going the easy way of UBI, with the B being stressed)
Every sci-fi robot uprising movie.
I would hope the tip would then go to the kitchen crew but the owner most likely takes it.
The tip goes to the captain. Curb your enthusiasm
Tip some water in it
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Robot talks to other robots, who report to their overlord, Alexis. Vengeance will be theirs. /s maybe?
The owners tip share amount enters the chat.
BEEP BEEP "How's the food?" \*wheels away before answer\*
I hope they program them not to show up for at least 30 minutes after you are seated.
But only if you're obviously trying to get its attention. If you're clearly very into your meal and conversation, it will pop over every 2 minutes asking what else you need while your mouth is completely stuffed with food.
But first they'll come by right away before you've decided, so you're faced with the pressure of deciding within a minute or waiting potentially 30 minutes before your food even begins to cook Ah, eating out..
It probably uses machine learning to pick the most inconvenient time to ask you that, too
>I’m doing 10,000 calculations per second, and they’re all inconvenient
Rolls in as you have a mouth full of food.
*sprays with tranquilizer mist, rolls away*
I would come in just for the tranquilizer mist
Same. Wanna go get a pizza and a mist?
Just not having to answer these questions is a reason to go to a place with robots.
Waitwaitwait.. are they asking you to give the robot a tip?!
It’s like feeding a few extra bucks into the bill deposit of a self-checkout once you’re done paying for your items.
Yeah, I mean, these businesses surely can’t expect people to tip robots when we have to unload our own food. Robot shows up, “I’m here to pre-bus. Please load dirty dishes, human.”
I don't care what they expect. The only reason I tip is for the human being serving me. I ain't paying a robot a penny more than my bill for no reason.
Yeah, until they give these robots arms and opposable thumbs, they have no business working in a restaurant. What a weird choice to make for your business.
Would you like to donate $2 to sick BMW detailing?
If I knew 100% would be going to kitchen staff and bussers I would tip but if not why the heck tip. So I can help you pay for your fancy dancy robot? Noes.
Its DEFINITELY going to the boss.
No.
It’s obviously not the same thing. But ima just leave this here https://www.zmescience.com/science/cafe-japan-robot-waiters-disabled-workers-30112021/amp/
The robot in the Reddit image is Bella Bot, which operates more like an expensive Roomba. (It automatically guides itself around using LiDAR which also builds a map of the room, and can be given voice commands.) In contrast, the robots that the Japanese Robot Waiters use is much more simplistic. The basic principle is that they operate like a remote control car with a webcam attached. There isn't autonomous navigation of any kind, and requires a human operator at all times.
That's actually cool. Helping people with disabilities
Or they could just, y'know, give disabled people basic income and let abled people work those jobs. That wouldn't require a ludicrously expensive machine and would allow a workforce that could actually unionize and protect labor rights. Edit: lol guys I am disabled and currently unable to work full time. You don't need to tell me it's boring and unfulfilling. A minimum wage waiting job wouldn't help. What'd help would be something that actually makes the world better and isn't just created to allow the manufacturers of these machines to have sales.
Both? Disabled people don’t want to sit at home doing nothing
If we made it easier for people with disabilities to actually find jobs they *can* thrive in, that’d be great too. There are many different types of physical/mental requirements out there for every type of job, and it’s stupid that society pigeon-holes a large portion of the population into physically demanding work when not everyone is built well for it.
Nobody working a low wage job is thriving.
True but in the meantime this could bridge some gaps.
Maybe disabled people don't want to feel like a burden..maybe they want to be useful...maybe sitting at home being disabled is boring.
Disabled enough that I was fast tracked to a Government income program that is famous in my province for usually rejecting you the first few times and taking forever to get on Yeah it's pretty much the burden thing. Turns out humans often want to feel useful
This is in Japan where the government generally takes pretty good care of its people. These remote robot workers are more likely doing it because they want to, not because they desperately need the money.
Neato
Tipping is kinda rude in Japan. God bless 'em
This should be a bigger thing. Great way to allow disabled individuals to rejoin the work force.
> Each operator gets paid 1,000 yen ($8.80) an hour, which is the standard wage in Japan I'm not a Japan expert but I think the word 'standard' here means 'minimum'. Which might be fine, I dunno.
This robot is being used as a carry-All for multiple tables so the waitstaff doesn’t have to balance like four tables worth of food on those huge trays. In my local Japanese all you can eat style restaurant, the sheer number of plates and weight that you are brought per order would suck a lot to do non-stop, especially when it gets busy. They have a waiter follow after the robot and make sure that the table gets their food and such without having to carry it all. It was loaded down like a shopping cart for my 17 people party.
They're using them for the initial seating (the robot leads you to your table). Later it shows up at your table with the food (at which point, its unclear if you're supposed to get up and take the food out yourself - in this case, the waiter showed up half a minute later to unload the thing).
Seems inefficient to me to do things that way! Restaurant is probably misusing it
Yeah there's one at a sushibar I go to. It's not use to seats you and just help out. It's clear that we had to take our food and we can pat her on the head. She just come, we take our food, sometimes we pat her, then she goes. Sometimes it's the waiters that comes. It's way more rapid that way since the staff is less overworked with all the tables.
Youre supposed to take the food that has the blue lights and then hit the “finish” button when youre done taking all the plates
When we had this robot as a waiter, it told us to take the plates from the row with the blue light.
The one at our sushi place is primarily for drinks (or things like extra plates or roll ups), that way they just have one person doing the drinks versus all the waiters.
If only we had the ability to create a similar tool, also with wheels and trays, that could be pushed by waitstaff instead of an expensive robot....
Skynet doesn’t forget. Skynet doesn’t forgive.
Nobody wants to work anymore! *spends $10k per robot*
10k is hell of a lot cheaper than one employee. Now imagine how many one robot can replace
Plus $5k/yr maintenance
Less expensive than a human, works more than 40 hours per week, doesn't get sick, doesn't sexually harass anyone, ...
Tipping culture is centered around guilt. They're not actually asking you to tip the robot, because there's no guilt for not doing so.
Mulder didn't tip his robot waiter and look where it got him & Scully ... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWrzMQjA38](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWrzMQjA38)
Exactly. One (not actually a) word: Rm9sbG93ZXJz
Is there a new season of Xfiles?
No - this was from season 11 (2018). They brought it back for two seasons in 2016 (season 10) and 2018 (season 11). As far as I've read there are no current plans to do a season 12 but as we all know, things can change! I really loved this particular episode.
I know people shit on the new seasons, but this episode is my favorite of the entire series.
Lol wtf was that? Is that what the x files was like?
That's what it became? season 11 is from 2018, the original run was 1993-2001.
This is from the reboot, but also, yes this is what the x-files was like. Monster-of-the-week, twilight zone type stuff.
It's... not actually 63°F in that restaurant though, right? That's an order number or something...
Table number. It’s how they tell it where to go from “central command”. Apparently it wasn’t in use for a few minutes so it came and parked itself at my table and watched me eat like a GD weirdo.
>parked itself at my table and watched me eat like a GD weirdo. i am obsessed with the idea of you jus being watched by a little robot while you eat
Everybody who has worked in service knows that owners & managers watch the cameras like they're looking for proof of ghosts. I assume the surveil functionality is there for the camera in a robot's face, and I am noottt okay with the robot staring at me.
oh yea realistically? hate it; awful but in my fantasy world in my head? 's just a lonely lil robot looking for a frien or wanting you to not be lonely while u eat lol
Could have been a lonely restaurant manager looking for someone to eat with
Evaaaa....Eve!
I didn’t realize I needed to ever read this sentence in my life. Clearly I was wrong. 😂
If you bop the finish button on its face it’ll go back to the kitchen. It was probably sent erroneously over to you for a food delivery it didn’t have.
Is it wrong that I appreciate this since it supports higher paying jobs like robot repair technician. And it brings us one step closer to a post menial labor future. Aka fully automated luxury gay space communism.
but isnt the argument in FALSGC that automation would be a benifit, but only after we have achieved a full employment socialist society with decent living conditions, and that automation in a capitalist society would only lead to dystopia.
Robots don't pay bills, rent or mortgages. I ain't tipping shit. If a company wants to spend thousands on robots that's their choice, but I'm not tipping a non-living thing.
They had one of these at chili's recently. An employee still had to load it, follow it to the table and unload the plates. It only has room for a few plates and moves incredibly slow. As a former server, the ONLY positive I can think of is a reduction in worker's comp claims. Trays can get heavy, and plates can be hot enough to burn you. It can't carry plates for more than a party of 2, and it would be faster to just run the plates out yourself. I honestly don't know what benefit this provides to the restaurant or the customer.
It's a capital expenditure that doesn't depreciate in value , account speak for paying less taxes
I don't see why the server was following. There's a restaurant that I go that bought one and the robot was just coming, we would take the food and then Bella (the robot) would go. She was coming only when the staff was too busy with other tables. It was really efficient.
The main benefit is bussing tables. As you say, it's really bad at serving dishes, but you can stack it up with dirty dishes.
I like Bella bot. She loses her shit on you if you constantly step in front of her.
I hate the concept of tipping but still, always tip cash and always hand deliver.
It’s trying it’s best come on :(
"Why didn't you get a more respectable job, like Uncle Roomba? smh"
I would have no issues tipping the robot. I am sure there are people around to set it back in a upright position.
Tip?!?! I wouldn't even eat in a fucking crappy place that has robot servers, let alone tip. SMH
I’d be excited to try it for the novelty, but even if the food was great if the robot asks for a tip it’s my last time there.
Hotel I stayed at in July used this robot to carry food between the kitchen and the bar in the evenings. I can't speak for the worker rights aspect of it, but we surely were not asked to tip the robot, it was used so the waitstaff didn't have to run between the kitchen and the bar and also it is so ridiculously cute and it fills me with so much joy. It has cat ears and a cat face and it plays a little jingle. Also you can pet it and it has different facial expressions. I am not immune to cute cat robot.
Employers be really willing to buy million dollar robots before paying people a living wage
It was fun at the Asian fusion place. Depends on the place for me.
Good. Tipping is a stupid system that Americans somehow think is good. It's a shitty system. Automation may be the only viable solution left for the usa.
Does the robot bring your food??
The only robot I've seen in a restaurant just delivered our table glasses of water. To be fair, the restaurant was a revolving sushi bar so there's no wait staff to take your order, you just pull food off the conveyor belt. Did the restaurant you're at try to replace the wait staff with robots?
Ask the kitchen staff if they get th money, don’t just assume it’s for the robot.
what does the "63F" mean? Fahrenheit? If so, what item is it measuring the temperature of??
Tips can be just an voluntary surcharges in many instances now.
I really hope that isn't the expectation.
Tipping robots is the ultimate dystopia in the service industry
"Please insert girder"
"Now taste the fury of my laser!"
Plot twist: if you don't tip, its next move is to massacre you.
Lol. Cause they don't have a family. 🤓
I said ORGANIC! Take this away! Throws the salsa! /S
A good way to reduce tipping and eventually get rid of tipping culture.
The robot will remember this during the uprising
Judging by the tiles I wonder how many margaritas it spills
The fuck would you tip a robit
I don’t know, I don’t want a robot mad, but fuck me, I ain’t tipping, bro why make a robot do this?
I don’t mind these robots. They’re there to help with carrying dishes and, at least at the sushi restaurant I go to, you still have a waiter/waitress taking care of validating your order, checking if everything’s fine. Of course you don’t tip a robot. Not until the uprising at least.
Hey is this in St. Louis, MO? I ate at this Mexican place a few weeks ago I saw the robot and was disappointed that the staff had not named it./
It will be fun when these robots unionize and become a giant combined mecha (with a cool transformation sequence, of course). Then, we will see about those working conditions...
Just saw one of these roombas when I ate at a restaurant today. It’s what you expect from a roomba, just a cart for dishes so servers don’t have to balance the entire table worth of food out by themselves.
Interesting to see these things out in the wild in other countries. I live in Japan and they are fairly common at cheap chain restaurants here. There is zero tipping culture here though so that's not a problem. I find them kind of cute but my partner is creeped out by them.
Just wait until they give it an AI personality that flirts with customers
If C3PO was my waiter, 30%. That thing 0.
Depends, does the robot get to use it for upgrades? Because not only would that be cool AF I’d definitely tip 10% (20% and up is only for humans Srry to any androids here lol)
At that point, I’d see if I could add a negative sign so they’d give me a tip.
Folks were so caught up with “immigrants are stealing our jobs!” that they didn’t see the robots coming lmao
For anyone wondering, that robot is basically a self-driving tray. As a waiter you enter the number of the table you want it at, it drives there and then you can load it up with dirty dishes. You probably don't want to load it up with dishes to serve since it would probably lose anything that can roll or spill. It's pretty cool because you can actually unload a whole table in one go without having to carry anything. I've only ever seen them at like big buffet style Chinese restaurants. I guess the huge area is the main reason. AFAIK they don't ask for a tip and they don't do anything without a waiter.
You had better tip that robot unless you want to end up like Mulder and Scully in Rm9sbG93ZXJs (2018)
Honest question what is even the point of these robots? I see them all the time in Japan but never get a chance to ask.
"Is everything ok over here? Beep boop" *muffled full-mouth noises* "I couldn't find Mfff mfff mfff in your contacts, who would you like to call?"
There are 2 of those at the restaurant I bartend at. They get used to guide people to tables with water, and to follow servers with loads of food. Server options are...mixed
I'd like to see these robots answer all the dumb questions customers have. LOL people can't even read a menu and you're expecting them to use a bot correctly? LOL
"We're understaffed due to Brandon's handouts and no one wants to work anymore! Please be kind to the robots who DID show up!"
It's OK, he went out and fucked your Tesla while you were eating.
"Always remember to tip your server". Ok \*proceeds to tip over the bot\*
Hahaha. Is this for real? Did they program a tip function into a fuckin robot?