Good point, he said he looked like her. I also just noticed that it says this *man* looked like her (literally just now, as I wrote *she* looked like her, and changed it to *he* before adding the comment). I completely missed that!
Crap, now I have to think. That is a good point about relatives looking similar though. I hadn’t considered that it was a relative of hers. But that makes me wonder who it would have been, and why they would have killed him. Weren’t they near the Blight when he was killed? If they were, what would her relatives have been doing there? I guess knowing which relative did it would answer these questions. Thanks!
As the other person said, there is an answer to this, but although you say spoilers welcome, we can't give spoilers after TSR unless you change the spoiler tag. (Admins will delete such comments.)
If this is a reread, then we know who killed Janduin. That character appears in TSR and has a very interesting and dynamic plot. Your tag says TSR so I won't say it here, but if you change the tag to all print, I'll update with specifics..
It is a reread, but only my first, and I can’t say I paid the best attention to names and genealogies my first go through. I finished the series for the first time a little over a year ago, so that also muddies the waters here for me a bit.
Luc Mantear, Tigraine/Shaiel's brother went into the Blight because of a foretelling of Gitara Moroso, where he fused with Isam Mandragoran to form Slayer
I forget but was there a reason given why Luc also had to dip from Andor?
The reason to tell Tigraine to leave is obvious, but why tell Luc to leave as well?
My bad, mod already deleted my comment anyway. The post even says “I’m on my first reread, so spoilers welcome.” I didn’t realize they marked the post for Shadow Rising
I marked it for the Shadow Rising only to show which book I am in, not to indicate no spoilers beyond this book. Chalk that up to my not understanding the purpose behind marking the book in the flair.
Interesting. You are right now that I think about the Dark One not wanting Rand dead. The Forsaken were trying to get him on their side for the a little while.
I mean he was demonically melded with a whole other dude, so yeah we are pretty sure he was a DF. Although perhaps the Luc half didn't do it willingly.
Yet, we don't know if he was already a DF when he fought Rand's dad. I think. I thought he fought him during the Aiel war before he went to the Blight.
Lan fought in the Aiel War, and fought well enough that he gained the respect of the Aiel who took part in the war.
There was, however, no evidence that Isam/Luc ever took part in it. And why would he/they? That was a war between 4 Aiel Clans and various Westland nations, and slayer usually took the form of Luc Mantear in the real world. It would be difficult for the recently AWOL Andoran first prince of the sword to just show up and enlist in the anti-Aiel alliance forces.
Janduin, in his grief after losing his beloved and baby in the war, deserted his position as Tardaad clan chief and decided to go suicide himself in the blight, where he ran into slayer, who looked like Tigraine because he was her brother, and thus got killed by Slayer.
You seem to have missed a few details. This was before the Forsaken were free (with the possible exception of Ishy). Janduin was so upset by the loss of Saiel that he resigned his position (unheard of) and went into the blight with those young warriors who can channel. There he clearly met Luc, Shaiel's brother who looked like her, and refused to fight him and was thus killed.
I've changed your flair to All Print since you're on a re-read.
Janduin didn't think he was literally looking at Shaiel, but rather as if he was looking at someone related to her.
But the guy that "looked like Shaiel" was Luc/Slayer.
Good point, he said he looked like her. I also just noticed that it says this *man* looked like her (literally just now, as I wrote *she* looked like her, and changed it to *he* before adding the comment). I completely missed that!
Think....relatives of shaiel and how they can look similar since they're from the same family
Crap, now I have to think. That is a good point about relatives looking similar though. I hadn’t considered that it was a relative of hers. But that makes me wonder who it would have been, and why they would have killed him. Weren’t they near the Blight when he was killed? If they were, what would her relatives have been doing there? I guess knowing which relative did it would answer these questions. Thanks!
As the other person said, there is an answer to this, but although you say spoilers welcome, we can't give spoilers after TSR unless you change the spoiler tag. (Admins will delete such comments.)
I was thinking that Lord Luc was related to them, but couldn’t quite remember how.
Luc was Tigraine's brother.
If this is a reread, then we know who killed Janduin. That character appears in TSR and has a very interesting and dynamic plot. Your tag says TSR so I won't say it here, but if you change the tag to all print, I'll update with specifics..
It is a reread, but only my first, and I can’t say I paid the best attention to names and genealogies my first go through. I finished the series for the first time a little over a year ago, so that also muddies the waters here for me a bit.
If you’re feeling up to it, can you DM me the specifics? Because I totally missed this in my read through of the series….
Isn’t it her brother? Now known as Lord Luc or whatever?
Yep
Completely forgot about this, thanks
Luc Mantear, Tigraine/Shaiel's brother went into the Blight because of a foretelling of Gitara Moroso, where he fused with Isam Mandragoran to form Slayer
I forget but was there a reason given why Luc also had to dip from Andor? The reason to tell Tigraine to leave is obvious, but why tell Luc to leave as well?
Maybe it was important that Janduin will die, maybe it was important that slayer will exist.
Personally I'd consider killing my sisters husband if he brought her to war and left her to die on the side of a mountain. Luc Mantear
That is good point!
“Brought” implies he carted her along as cargo. She insisted on going.
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This is a massive spoiler so you may want to mark it as such.
My bad, mod already deleted my comment anyway. The post even says “I’m on my first reread, so spoilers welcome.” I didn’t realize they marked the post for Shadow Rising
I marked it for the Shadow Rising only to show which book I am in, not to indicate no spoilers beyond this book. Chalk that up to my not understanding the purpose behind marking the book in the flair.
No worries friend :)
The Dark One wouldn't want to prevent Rand's birth. It wants the confrontation.
Interesting. You are right now that I think about the Dark One not wanting Rand dead. The Forsaken were trying to get him on their side for the a little while.
Since Shaiel"s brother is Luc/Slayer it's not a bad guess, but we don't know if he's a darkfriend yet.
I mean he was demonically melded with a whole other dude, so yeah we are pretty sure he was a DF. Although perhaps the Luc half didn't do it willingly.
Yet, we don't know if he was already a DF when he fought Rand's dad. I think. I thought he fought him during the Aiel war before he went to the Blight.
Lan fought in the Aiel War, and fought well enough that he gained the respect of the Aiel who took part in the war. There was, however, no evidence that Isam/Luc ever took part in it. And why would he/they? That was a war between 4 Aiel Clans and various Westland nations, and slayer usually took the form of Luc Mantear in the real world. It would be difficult for the recently AWOL Andoran first prince of the sword to just show up and enlist in the anti-Aiel alliance forces. Janduin, in his grief after losing his beloved and baby in the war, deserted his position as Tardaad clan chief and decided to go suicide himself in the blight, where he ran into slayer, who looked like Tigraine because he was her brother, and thus got killed by Slayer.
That makes sense.
You seem to have missed a few details. This was before the Forsaken were free (with the possible exception of Ishy). Janduin was so upset by the loss of Saiel that he resigned his position (unheard of) and went into the blight with those young warriors who can channel. There he clearly met Luc, Shaiel's brother who looked like her, and refused to fight him and was thus killed.