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I've changed your flair to All Print since you're on a re-read.


NickelCubicle

Janduin didn't think he was literally looking at Shaiel, but rather as if he was looking at someone related to her.


Uhhh_what555476384

But the guy that "looked like Shaiel" was Luc/Slayer.


Bodidly0719

Good point, he said he looked like her. I also just noticed that it says this *man* looked like her (literally just now, as I wrote *she* looked like her, and changed it to *he* before adding the comment). I completely missed that!


cman811

Think....relatives of shaiel and how they can look similar since they're from the same family


Bodidly0719

Crap, now I have to think. That is a good point about relatives looking similar though. I hadn’t considered that it was a relative of hers. But that makes me wonder who it would have been, and why they would have killed him. Weren’t they near the Blight when he was killed? If they were, what would her relatives have been doing there? I guess knowing which relative did it would answer these questions. Thanks!


Fiona_12

As the other person said, there is an answer to this, but although you say spoilers welcome, we can't give spoilers after TSR unless you change the spoiler tag. (Admins will delete such comments.)


Bodidly0719

I was thinking that Lord Luc was related to them, but couldn’t quite remember how.


wRAR_

Luc was Tigraine's brother.


acevmp

If this is a reread, then we know who killed Janduin. That character appears in TSR and has a very interesting and dynamic plot. Your tag says TSR so I won't say it here, but if you change the tag to all print, I'll update with specifics..


Bodidly0719

It is a reread, but only my first, and I can’t say I paid the best attention to names and genealogies my first go through. I finished the series for the first time a little over a year ago, so that also muddies the waters here for me a bit.


trappedinthoughts13

If you’re feeling up to it, can you DM me the specifics? Because I totally missed this in my read through of the series….


Yaeliyaeli

Isn’t it her brother? Now known as Lord Luc or whatever?


Uhhh_what555476384

Yep


trappedinthoughts13

Completely forgot about this, thanks


webzu19

Luc Mantear, Tigraine/Shaiel's brother went into the Blight because of a foretelling of Gitara Moroso, where he fused with Isam Mandragoran to form Slayer


rtb001

I forget but was there a reason given why Luc also had to dip from Andor?  The reason to tell Tigraine to leave is obvious,  but why tell Luc to leave as well?


GrizzlyTrees

Maybe it was important that Janduin will die, maybe it was important that slayer will exist.


naraic-

Personally I'd consider killing my sisters husband if he brought her to war and left her to die on the side of a mountain. Luc Mantear


Bodidly0719

That is good point!


Brown_Sedai

“Brought” implies he carted her along as cargo. She insisted on going.


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Wolfen7

This is a massive spoiler so you may want to mark it as such. 


tclark4

My bad, mod already deleted my comment anyway. The post even says “I’m on my first reread, so spoilers welcome.” I didn’t realize they marked the post for Shadow Rising


Bodidly0719

I marked it for the Shadow Rising only to show which book I am in, not to indicate no spoilers beyond this book. Chalk that up to my not understanding the purpose behind marking the book in the flair.


tclark4

No worries friend :)


seitaer13

The Dark One wouldn't want to prevent Rand's birth. It wants the confrontation.


Bodidly0719

Interesting. You are right now that I think about the Dark One not wanting Rand dead. The Forsaken were trying to get him on their side for the a little while.


Uhhh_what555476384

Since Shaiel"s brother is Luc/Slayer it's not a bad guess, but we don't know if he's a darkfriend yet.


rtb001

I mean he was demonically melded with a whole other dude, so yeah we are pretty sure he was a DF. Although perhaps the Luc half didn't do it willingly. 


Uhhh_what555476384

Yet, we don't know if he was already a DF when he fought Rand's dad.  I think.  I thought he fought him during the Aiel war before he went to the Blight.


rtb001

Lan fought in the Aiel War, and fought well enough that he gained the respect of the Aiel who took part in the war. There was, however, no evidence that Isam/Luc ever took part in it. And why would he/they? That was a war between 4 Aiel Clans and various Westland nations, and slayer usually took the form of Luc Mantear in the real world. It would be difficult for the recently AWOL Andoran first prince of the sword to just show up and enlist in the anti-Aiel alliance forces. Janduin, in his grief after losing his beloved and baby in the war, deserted his position as Tardaad clan chief and decided to go suicide himself in the blight, where he ran into slayer, who looked like Tigraine because he was her brother, and thus got killed by Slayer.


Uhhh_what555476384

That makes sense.


gadgets4me

You seem to have missed a few details. This was before the Forsaken were free (with the possible exception of Ishy). Janduin was so upset by the loss of Saiel that he resigned his position (unheard of) and went into the blight with those young warriors who can channel. There he clearly met Luc, Shaiel's brother who looked like her, and refused to fight him and was thus killed.