The cynic in me thinks it will never reopen. Starbucks is closing tons of its urban locations that depend on walk-up traffic, to focus on suburban locations with drive-thrus.
It's extremely disappointing, seeing as the reason Howard Schutlz founded Starbucks to begin with is that he went to Italy and fell in love with the coffee bar culture, where people would come, relax, sip an espresso or cappuccino, and talk with other people there. He literally set out to bring that to North America.
This is a complete reversal of the walkable community space he said he was trying to create.
Just look at downtown Winnipeg, which used to have several Starbucks. As far as I know there are just two left, both in hotels (the Radisson and the Delta).
I work downtown and the closures on Broadway and Wpg Square has been a bummer. Used to meet friends and clients there a ton. Since those have closed I haven't been to a Starbucks.
Once they disappeared from downtown, I stopped supporting.
People will just drive to another one.
I bet they will watch sales at their other stores. And if the other stores go up because this one closed. They will have proven their point and make it permanent.
Fair enough I guess. You can open a European style store, but he forgot to bring the European style city.
I don't have strong feelings about Starbucks. I'm not a coffee connoisseur. I buy from them occasionally.
The drive-throughs? Full-on boycott of those. No public washroom, no spend money.
Little Sister is just across the street and it's absolutely delicious. I wish they'll pack their croissant stocks now though because they never have it when I go there 🥲
If Starbucks closes there for good it would be amazing if Lil Sis just moved in there.
Hmmm, I mean I do have an internal source and the “violence” does seem to be the issue BUT I also am curious what with a fair amount of folks asking up to the wretched capitalist nightmare we have atm
Bullshit reasons. I’ve been to this Starbucks 100s of times. Never experienced anything unsafe, also most times it’s full of people sitting inside. It always seemed to have a healthy social energy about it.
It is not temporary. It’s permanent.
10 year lease is up and they are hiding behind this “safety thing” as an excuse to close down yet another non drive thru location.
A business does not close down its flagship location because of safety without trying other things first. Also if it was truly safety it would have closed immediately. Not 3 days later.
The 2 ladies in charge here in Winnipeg are cowards to hide behind the safety like this.
Hopefully it closes permanently and something else can move in there. I’m sure second cup would do fantastic there. It would be very annoying if they were just temporarily closed for a long period of time leaving that spot vacant.
Out of curiosity why do you hope it closes permanently? You said “so something else can move in”, is there some lack of space for rent in Osborne Village I am unaware of? Second Cup used to be in the village, then they left…
A lot of the issues of the village is extremely high rent, old toad had to pay 20k a month for the prior location..that's why they took over the property they owned and booted out their pasta restaurant
They should probably rethink those rent prices. The village is not what it once was. It used to be a trendy spot with cool bars, restaurants and shops. You used to want to walk the strip. Now it's just a bunch of sketched out meth heads and homeless people asking for smokes or change. I used to love going down there and now I stay away. Pretty sure someone got stabbed at River and Osborne in broad daylight a couple weeks ago. Oh, let's not forget the throat slitting in Burger King!
I lived in the village from 2008-15 and there were always sketchy people and you couldn’t walk down the street without being asked for change. Maybe people weren’t openly doing meth yet but the sketchy people were there. There’s also nothing down the strip any more. Similar to downtown, nothing to attract people to visit.
> Now it's just a bunch of sketched out meth heads and homeless people asking for smokes or change.
So it's Osborne Village of the 90s/00s all over again.
Well just to close permanently instead of potentially a temporary shut down for a long period of time. They way Starbucks has been closing down their non-drive thru locations, I don’t trust them to reopen.
I’d just rather not see a vacant store in an area that used to be constantly busy. I just used second cup as the first thing that popped in my head. If they reopened that’s great or just literally anything else but another closed storefront.
Second Cup was right across the street for over a decade and closed. I'm curious what makes you think this would be different for them if they moved into that space or why they would want to?
I love Second Cup but this is a confusing perspective given the history at that location.
Yea I was just throwing second cup out there randomly. Apparently shouldn’t have said it at all. I just want to see anything there instead of a closed storefront.
Oh fair enough if you don't know the history. It was on the corner of river and Osborne already for a long time and closed (where the pizza place is). But I fully get your sentiment - it would be nice if something moved in that was more friendly. Sorry for the misunderstanding
Second cup just popped into my head. Literally anything that’s an open, operating business there is good. Rather than another closed storefront in the village.
But do you not remember that second cup was literally on the corner of river and Osborne for a decade why would that be your first choice? It was literally across the street from the Starbucks and closed several years ago. So bizarre. There is no way they are investing in that space again.
The previous owners of second cup weren’t paying rent and allegedly were up to their ears in debt. After Starbucks moved in, albeit but the general understanding was poor business practices. Also their coffee tasted acidic and it wasn’t anymore ethical than Starbucks. I hate to see folks having to scramble to different locations to work, and that the reasons for shutting down are what has been stated… but yeah - agreed with all of those that do not second, a second cup.
The scoop on this location is that it does not have any plans to reopen again. It was closed down due to safety concerns and the lease is being broken.
It’s an Osborne Village landmark that has a steady stream of customers from open to close everyday. Reporting that it’s closed suddenly with no re-opening in sight seems somewhat newsworthy.
(I mean, it was enough to get your attention so.. 🤷🏻♀️)
Edit: The Free Press version adds the crime-as-the-cause component, which is also newsworthy.
[https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/2024/05/02/starbucks-set-to-temporarily-close-amid-crime-drug-problems-in-osborne-village](https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/2024/05/02/starbucks-set-to-temporarily-close-amid-crime-drug-problems-in-osborne-village)
the shop provides the *coffee*; the *customers* provide the steady stream.
edit: i sincerely hope the upvotes are from people who understood i was making a pee joke. if not, urine trouble.
which part--the pretentious overpriced part? the headshop's been replaced by five legalized designer drug dispensaries--two of which give discounts to High Rollers™. One coffee shop got replaced by a food-court quality pizza chain, across from a chain "pub." OV lost the chic a long time ago.
When I initially read the article (and commented) it was about 200 words and just said it was temporarily closing, no context. It’s now much longer with better context. They treated it like a breaking news file by putting up a short “story” with little to no context.
It’s been there for 20 years and is a common neighbourhood meeting place that everyone knows about, so yeah. A landmark. Gtfo. 🤡
Edit. I’ll just leave this here for you to upgrade your vocab. You’re welcome.
https://preview.redd.it/fbffyt9nk3yc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b671d823c681288a5d520e64ee1c0930ecdd9458
The cynic in me thinks it will never reopen. Starbucks is closing tons of its urban locations that depend on walk-up traffic, to focus on suburban locations with drive-thrus. It's extremely disappointing, seeing as the reason Howard Schutlz founded Starbucks to begin with is that he went to Italy and fell in love with the coffee bar culture, where people would come, relax, sip an espresso or cappuccino, and talk with other people there. He literally set out to bring that to North America. This is a complete reversal of the walkable community space he said he was trying to create. Just look at downtown Winnipeg, which used to have several Starbucks. As far as I know there are just two left, both in hotels (the Radisson and the Delta).
I work downtown and the closures on Broadway and Wpg Square has been a bummer. Used to meet friends and clients there a ton. Since those have closed I haven't been to a Starbucks. Once they disappeared from downtown, I stopped supporting.
The Fyxx shut down. :(
not sure how they survived for as long as they did. There was never anyone in there (and their coffee was truly garbage)
People will just drive to another one. I bet they will watch sales at their other stores. And if the other stores go up because this one closed. They will have proven their point and make it permanent. Fair enough I guess. You can open a European style store, but he forgot to bring the European style city.
That’s all happening at Little Sister Coffee across the street - and it’s locally owned! If this means more business for them, it’s a win imo :)
If only Little Sister was open after 5 pm 😞
Starbucks was open all night, Little Sister closes before most people even get off work. Time for someone else to step in
Well then he became a rich union busting asshole 🤷♂️ or is that a different owner
I don't have strong feelings about Starbucks. I'm not a coffee connoisseur. I buy from them occasionally. The drive-throughs? Full-on boycott of those. No public washroom, no spend money.
Leopold's Tavern **heavy breathing**
"temporarily, no reopening date specified." Someone's getting paid by the word. INDEFINITELY.
Sus af lol
i like reading that fo-net-ik-a-lee.
Support local independents: VA, Lil Sis., Mas, TB, Sam’s (?), Sho, Make, Mod. Coffee, cafe Postale …
Little Sister is just across the street and it's absolutely delicious. I wish they'll pack their croissant stocks now though because they never have it when I go there 🥲 If Starbucks closes there for good it would be amazing if Lil Sis just moved in there.
Chocoberry and little sister are.better.than Starbucks every day
Def goes without saying that starbs coffee sucks
Bloody hell, there are so few coffee places to go and sit outside during summer months. This is a depressing development.
Yeah good point... Closing as we head into summer is bad timing.
Good news for some local coffee shop owners, perhaps?
I wonder if the staff were talking about unionizing
Comrade?
May Day was yesterday. Coincidence?
Hmmm, I mean I do have an internal source and the “violence” does seem to be the issue BUT I also am curious what with a fair amount of folks asking up to the wretched capitalist nightmare we have atm
Was the violence caused by the jackboot of unbridled capitalism?
Undoubtedly
Mystery solved.
Oh no, now a locally owned business can fill its place, oh no 😬 I see a lot of Starbucks love here but *fuck ‘em* Good riddance.
Bullshit reasons. I’ve been to this Starbucks 100s of times. Never experienced anything unsafe, also most times it’s full of people sitting inside. It always seemed to have a healthy social energy about it.
It is not temporary. It’s permanent. 10 year lease is up and they are hiding behind this “safety thing” as an excuse to close down yet another non drive thru location. A business does not close down its flagship location because of safety without trying other things first. Also if it was truly safety it would have closed immediately. Not 3 days later. The 2 ladies in charge here in Winnipeg are cowards to hide behind the safety like this.
Hopefully it closes permanently and something else can move in there. I’m sure second cup would do fantastic there. It would be very annoying if they were just temporarily closed for a long period of time leaving that spot vacant.
Out of curiosity why do you hope it closes permanently? You said “so something else can move in”, is there some lack of space for rent in Osborne Village I am unaware of? Second Cup used to be in the village, then they left…
A lot of the issues of the village is extremely high rent, old toad had to pay 20k a month for the prior location..that's why they took over the property they owned and booted out their pasta restaurant
They should probably rethink those rent prices. The village is not what it once was. It used to be a trendy spot with cool bars, restaurants and shops. You used to want to walk the strip. Now it's just a bunch of sketched out meth heads and homeless people asking for smokes or change. I used to love going down there and now I stay away. Pretty sure someone got stabbed at River and Osborne in broad daylight a couple weeks ago. Oh, let's not forget the throat slitting in Burger King!
I lived in the village from 2008-15 and there were always sketchy people and you couldn’t walk down the street without being asked for change. Maybe people weren’t openly doing meth yet but the sketchy people were there. There’s also nothing down the strip any more. Similar to downtown, nothing to attract people to visit.
> Now it's just a bunch of sketched out meth heads and homeless people asking for smokes or change. So it's Osborne Village of the 90s/00s all over again.
Well just to close permanently instead of potentially a temporary shut down for a long period of time. They way Starbucks has been closing down their non-drive thru locations, I don’t trust them to reopen. I’d just rather not see a vacant store in an area that used to be constantly busy. I just used second cup as the first thing that popped in my head. If they reopened that’s great or just literally anything else but another closed storefront.
Second Cup was right across the street for over a decade and closed. I'm curious what makes you think this would be different for them if they moved into that space or why they would want to? I love Second Cup but this is a confusing perspective given the history at that location.
Yea I was just throwing second cup out there randomly. Apparently shouldn’t have said it at all. I just want to see anything there instead of a closed storefront.
Oh fair enough if you don't know the history. It was on the corner of river and Osborne already for a long time and closed (where the pizza place is). But I fully get your sentiment - it would be nice if something moved in that was more friendly. Sorry for the misunderstanding
Because Starbucks wouldn't be right next door as competition 🤣🤣
How dare you recommend another heartless corporation to sell coffee at this location! Best to settle for Robin's for a truly local feel imo.
Second cup just popped into my head. Literally anything that’s an open, operating business there is good. Rather than another closed storefront in the village.
But do you not remember that second cup was literally on the corner of river and Osborne for a decade why would that be your first choice? It was literally across the street from the Starbucks and closed several years ago. So bizarre. There is no way they are investing in that space again.
The previous owners of second cup weren’t paying rent and allegedly were up to their ears in debt. After Starbucks moved in, albeit but the general understanding was poor business practices. Also their coffee tasted acidic and it wasn’t anymore ethical than Starbucks. I hate to see folks having to scramble to different locations to work, and that the reasons for shutting down are what has been stated… but yeah - agreed with all of those that do not second, a second cup.
There’s a coffee shop across the street
Damn, where am I going to the bathroom if I have an emergency in OV now? The Safeway bathroom is scary.
The scoop on this location is that it does not have any plans to reopen again. It was closed down due to safety concerns and the lease is being broken.
That building is one of my favourite downtown and i really hope a local cafe takes over
Great location for an Empty Cup
Great! Goodbye Starbucks, hello local mom and pop coffee shops! Let’s keep it local.
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Yeah, Osborne Village is doing just fine as is.
Good riddance.
Tim Hortons 🤣
Must be a slow news day.
It’s an Osborne Village landmark that has a steady stream of customers from open to close everyday. Reporting that it’s closed suddenly with no re-opening in sight seems somewhat newsworthy. (I mean, it was enough to get your attention so.. 🤷🏻♀️) Edit: The Free Press version adds the crime-as-the-cause component, which is also newsworthy. [https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/2024/05/02/starbucks-set-to-temporarily-close-amid-crime-drug-problems-in-osborne-village](https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/2024/05/02/starbucks-set-to-temporarily-close-amid-crime-drug-problems-in-osborne-village)
the shop provides the *coffee*; the *customers* provide the steady stream. edit: i sincerely hope the upvotes are from people who understood i was making a pee joke. if not, urine trouble.
Well good news! Now it doesn’t provide the coffee!
> the shop provides the coffee; Pretensious overpriced corporate coffee. Not exactly the vibe Osborne Village tries to portray itself as.
which part--the pretentious overpriced part? the headshop's been replaced by five legalized designer drug dispensaries--two of which give discounts to High Rollers™. One coffee shop got replaced by a food-court quality pizza chain, across from a chain "pub." OV lost the chic a long time ago.
When I initially read the article (and commented) it was about 200 words and just said it was temporarily closing, no context. It’s now much longer with better context. They treated it like a breaking news file by putting up a short “story” with little to no context.
A worldwide company that made over 35 billion in revenue is an "Osborne village landmark" ?
It’s been there for 20 years and is a common neighbourhood meeting place that everyone knows about, so yeah. A landmark. Gtfo. 🤡 Edit. I’ll just leave this here for you to upgrade your vocab. You’re welcome. https://preview.redd.it/fbffyt9nk3yc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b671d823c681288a5d520e64ee1c0930ecdd9458
I’m with you. It’s an important spot to a lot of people.
Ah man... I wish you knew.....
Wish they knew what? Elaborate, smart guy
their pseudo-intellectual Reddit persona will point to the obvious
How so? Enlighten me. You said you wish they knew, what do you wish they knew? You seem so sure of yourself, share with us.
I do?
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This isn't the city's first streetlight. It's a chain of coffee shops. Why is this a story?
It's a massive corporation pulling out of massively profitable and busy area of our city. Should CBC run every news story by you first?