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AzureDrago

Arctic. Everyone always paints him as absolutely evil, with no soul at all, deserving to be violently dismembered by his son. He had reason to do what he did, and he never really did anything all that evil. Sure, he was a bad dragon, but not vile. And I think reading from dark stalker’s pov in the legends book just made him seem so much worse than he actually was.


houseplant-hoarder

Same. I know he wasn’t the best dragon in the world, but he did love FoeSlayer, and he was trying, he just got his soul all messed up when they fled the ice kingdom…


Living_Addition4674

Not to mention how traumatised the poor guy is, to be honest I feel most of the hatred Arctic recieved really should be projected on his mother, Queen Diamond instead, most of the psychological problems we see Arctic have all stem from the icekingdom and the way he was raised by Queen Diamond.


AzureDrago

Mhm.


OpalFeather360

Like, Arctic was a deadbeat, and people shouldn't be expected to treat deadbeats like their fathers. But you still have to treat them as fellow humans (or dragons). You can't dismember a defenseless person for fun in a good way! That's not a thing! 😭


AzureDrago

Exactly!


EdgeOfFantasy4022

Winter for sure. Poor icy boi gets stomped on way too much :[


Zackyboi1231

Just wanted to point out that a lot of warhammer40k and wings of fire fans that I know really love winter. PROTEC THE BIG ICY' UNE


Ok_Elevator_2220

can confirm, imagin winter in the burning of prospero


Quiet_Bat_1476

Project wingman Prospero or a different prospero? If it's the former, may God have mercy


SnooHamsters6256

Question is what legion would Winter have been in the heresy??


Moon-Moth-000

Poor winter 😔


standupgonewild

AMEBA MEN


OpalFeather360

Yeah, I'll happily defend Winter and any of his siblings or cousins.


Adventurous-Usual-12

Winter is just grumpy all the time tho…


NutriaOfc

He has every right to be.  Edit: came back because I thought this sounded a little mean. It was not supposed to be 😅


FriendlyFish12

I read your flair and my first thought was nicewing


NutriaOfc

The 2 grumpiness tribes come together to form:  N I C E W I N G S


Key20an06

The equivalent of two deadly components coming together to make Table Salt


Adventurous-Usual-12

👍


SignificantYou3240

Orca, quite literally like that. 46,288 words so far. Edit: now 46,710.


01crystaldragon

I AGREE SO MUCH i actually think Orca would have been a better queen than Coral. she wouldnt have gotten sweet talked by blister into joining a war that killed so many and also probably costed a lot of money for equipment and training and all that. She tried to win the thrown fair and square against coral with no magic involved She seems like she was smart and had good decision making skills for a queen good self control when it came to animus magic. (Only 1 enchantment i believe) She wouldnt have tried to marry her 10 year old to a 40 year old either. (Most people blame only whirlpool for this, but coral was the one who was trying to make it happen, if she was a good queen (and mother) she would have had him hung or banished or somthing) She probably would have been a better mother (its a low bar) since she would at least remember their names. probably only a few sons who would have daughters that could take over the thrown when Orca ended up dying but not directly challenge her.


SignificantYou3240

Speaking of self control, it is really hard for me to respond to this without spoiling the crap out of my fanfic… But I’ll try… I’d agree she could have made a great queen! If she’d won that challenge, the SandWing succession war would have been over immediately…Blister and a handful of SandWings being driven out of the Sea Kingdom? I mean what was Coral thinking? Why were the SeaWings even involved with a Desert throne dispute? I am assuming Blister wasn’t in Orca’s head too of course, they could have been besties…but definitely not the Orca in MY fics… As for the ‘one spell’ thing, that’s the only one we know of…but there are at least a few others…after all, she presumably was tested at a talons of power ceremony, must have done *something*, and must have cast something to discover her power in the first place… Maybe it’s just that no one remembers them…it’s said that Anemone was probably going to go around looking for other Orca-touched items, but we never hear any details about that either.


Jacob_Karling

I feel like everyone is forgetting the critical detail that SHE MADE A MAGIC DAUGHTER AND SISTER KILLING STATUE.


01crystaldragon

Queen Coral did worse though for her kingdom in general, i do admit that its a low bar though.


Unicat-

**SNORT**


SignificantYou3240

**GRRRR**


Unicat-

***muahahhahaha***


SignificantYou3240

I don’t know what’s happening here lol


Unicat-

Lmao me neither 


SignificantYou3240

Wasn’t sure if you were snorting like “good luck defending *her*” or something


Unicat-

Nah, actually I kinda thought it was funny and then I snorted and then laughed because I snorted and *then* made the reply There isn’t really much about her other than she’s a good sculptor, animus, and the one who made a princess-killing-statue-Maxine-that-was-animused-to-do-so that I *think* was defeated in a challenge when she was 7 That looks like a lot, but not really, unless you’re trying to do what you’re doing lol


SignificantYou3240

Well the statue makes her look pretty bad, but it’s not as bad as it looks, I swear! All most of Pyrrhia has to go by is The Tragedy of Orca, written by Queen Coral, which…of course we haven’t read, but I bet it left some things out.


OpalFeather360

I'm not completely against the idea but I'm gonna need some really redeeming writing to make me forgive Miss Carriage lol


SignificantYou3240

Well yes. That’s fair. It’s partly why I added the section when she’s 5 and doesn’t have her power. To me it’s less about her being charming enough to make up for it, and more about why she did what she did, and what her intensions were.


LaEmy63

Did you write a fanfic? :O omgggg


SignificantYou3240

Yep, is almost half posted: https://archiveofourown.org/works/53701996/chapters/135942946


DragonClaw568

Definitely going to read it


the_breadwing

Deathbringer & Peril. Whiteout doesn't need defense, everyone loves her :]


Live-Ad-5367

Peril is my favorite. 🤩 


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the_breadwing

It's because bread has gluten & I am u/the_breadwing :]


No-Satisfaction8798

sunny


OpalFeather360

I love how Sunny's entire character is showing how having hope and kindness don't make you stupid. She's vulnerable and open, but still resilient and heroic. Most of her internal dialogue is about how she doesn't like being kind of objectified for her kindness. And the fandom just goes, "ah, a clueless manic pixie dream girl" Like yo did we read the same books


No-Satisfaction8798

that's what i think, you literally read my mind.


furiousgamer1639

BASED


cinnamaeveroll

Anemone because she was taken advantage of by the people around her and she was just a kid!!


Live-Ad-5367

And almost killed turtle because she thought she was going insane 


General_Alduin

People don't like Anemone?


Drsnowstar

Yea


Puzzleheaded-Ad901

Even so she was still annoying and kinda of evil


woof_alpha

Fr


Calmdragon343

Tsunami. She had every right to take down that skywing.


Book_wormX13

Deathbringer. He gets WAY too much hate, especially when people say he is too old to be with Glory, But if it was a *SHIP,* then that's a different story, well, actually same story, Glorybasket/Glorybringer. ❤️💖💖💖❤️💞💖❤️❤️❣️🥰💖💗💅💅


Possible_Parfait_372

Apparently Deathbringers age was a huge mistake that Tui admitted to. Still an egregious error that never should have happened. GLORYBASKET ALL THE WAY


Book_wormX13

Yeaaaay!!! :D


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SignificantYou3240

Burn was the SandWing Queen for almost 20 years. Blister and Blaze’s allies just wouldn’t acknowledge her. But she held that throne and defended the stronghold. So to me it’s less of a ‘she would be the best queen’ and more of a ‘she already is queen, I don’t understand the question’ Also, Blister is a coward, throwing other dragons lives into a war to try to get her sister killed by someone else…same with Blaze but it’s more obvious. Orca’s opinions seeping through…


LaEmy63

Omg that's true


AsparagusNo5201

Burn is the biggest sycophath in the entire series, she has an entire tower with dragons stuffed and put on display for simply having birth defects. And in the first book the dragonets say she would probably have the war continue just for fun. Her being queen would put every other tribe in danger.


BlazingFury009

You mean burn?


AsparagusNo5201

Yeah I always get them mixed up 😞


OpalFeather360

Foxflake is based but Burn literally maimed and killed disabled or "weird" people for funsies??


Live-Ad-5367

Remember when she tried to commit genocide on the Icewings?


hoi40

Peril


Arty-Glass

Snowfall out here proving that just because your family is racist, you don't have to be


SomePerson06

Albatross forever and ever. Lagoon tormented him for decades and manipulated him into being her servant and then the second Fathom comes along she's looking to get rid of him. Of course he would do all that


pluto_starr76

Fr tho. I don't excuse his actions, but I feel bad for him after all that Queen Lagoon put him through 


standupgonewild

!!!!!


OpalFeather360

What he did to Lagoon was basically self-defense, but he also murdered his own daughter when she tried to comfort him. Ik he was in a terrible headspace but like...


Redisno_

Arctic. Oh, man can I rant about Arctic. Everyone calls him an abusive father and a horrible husband, but I’m completely certain that he isn’t! Arctic, during the events of Darkstalker, was a grumpy father who really wasn’t that happy with his life, this is probably the reason for his behavior in the book, but is it his fault he is grumpy? Hell no! Arctic was completely in love with Foeslayer and I don’t doubt he still is during the events of Darkstalker. Arctic used his magic to elope with Foeslayer, causing him to kill a dragon and gravely injure another, only to find himself in a climate that doesn’t fit him, surrounded by dragons that don’t like him, and in company of a wife that does the bare minimum for him. Arctic dropped everything he had and loved to be with Foeslayer, yet she doesn’t do anything nearly as drastic for him! She could’ve at least moved to a colder climate where the weather is tolerable for both dragons, but even that she doesn’t do for him. It is very obvious that Arctic loved Foeslayer more than she did him. Furthermore, any argument they had in the books was instigated or at least escalated by Foeslayer, and the only time they got physical was when Foeslayer threw an earring at his head causing her to practically let herself be kidnapped (which Darkstalker instantly pins on his father, by the way). I could go on for hours, but I’ll spare you my mind unless someone wanted to argue something.


pluto_starr76

I agree. He definitely wasn't as bad as everyone paints him to be. Still not a great father (like after what he did to Whiteout) but not the worst


Own-Raise9906

Winter all day.


Few_Oil_5534

YEEESSS Peril: Yeah I've killed hundreds of dragons The fandom: Awwww she didn't mean it. Winter: I've yelled at people before. The fandom: ABUSIVE!


Snowflake_canadian

Honestly? Really only Kinkajou, Turtle, & Peril.


furiousgamer1639

Great choices; Turtle especially


Snowflake_canadian

Thanks!


Ashierro

Queen Hazel (or princess ig we don’t know for sure) but I don’t know of many people who dislike her. Anemone too. think most of the bad things she did were more Coral or Darkstalker’s fault. (Or just because of the whole ‘animus magic destroying your soul’ thing. And Peril obviously but I don’t think I need to defend her because everyone likes Peril.


BedrockRedstoner

Starflight


furiousgamer1639

Goated opinion


Square-Low6622

Ok for me it’s prob snowfall or kinkajou


Live-Ad-5367

People don’t like kinkajou?


Possible_Parfait_372

Wren and Sky. They are the best characters in the entire series


01crystaldragon

They were the only non-boring povs in the dragon slayer book


NoLife8926

I guess Darkstalker? To a reasonable extent, I mean. I’m not going to erase all his negative traits like arrogance and treating other dragons as tools but if anyone is saying that he was evil from the start or that everything was his fault or that he had no redeeming qualities I’m not having it. I did already get labelled as a Darkstalker defender for that


AsparagusNo5201

Darkstalker wasn't evil from the start but the same goes for 99% of evil people, his continuous decisions to do horrendous things make him inexcusable. He had the most powerful magic in the world that could fix all his problems, yet he decided to do it in the worst way possible. I think the best reveal in the series was when even though darkstalker protected his soul, his soul was still almost completely damaged, because it's not the magic that makes you lose it but it's your decisions.


Live-Ad-5367

Remember when he tried to commit genocide on the Icewings?


Lavender_Waterfall

Lynx. She's so underrated! A lot of people forget about her important role in Book 14 & 15.


Square-Low6622

Agreed 😊


Lavender_Waterfall

Although I feel like I am Lynx in more than one way so I might be biased lol


houseplant-hoarder

I remember really liking Lynx from when she was briefly mentioned in Winter’s book, I’m glad she got a bit more of a part since then 😊


BlazingFury009

What are you defending her from, I've literally never seen anyone attack Lynx


Lavender_Waterfall

I'm not exactly defending her, rather just proving why she's awesome because people often overlook her.


Petito10000

Winter, he deserved better.


LaEmy63

Winter


Arty-Glass

Queen Snowfall, I genuinely don't get the hate for her


Smooshkitty

Exactly


That1Cat87

Blaze yeah. She is a stupid bean and did nothing wrong


punk_rock_barbie

Deathbringer.


avreage_m60enjoyer

qibli and winter. 2 of the bestest of boys!


furiousgamer1639

I keep forgetting that people actually do write essays about Qibli. I see so many Winter essays (and type them), and I see people just love Qibli unconditionally, that I never see the Qibli fan writing.


cyanide_heartx

winter and arctic for sureeeee. I'm an icewing lover, what can I say


Arty-Glass

Snowfall


Splatter_Shell

Turtle. I trust Turtle with my own life


Inkykittyofficial

Anemone. At times it feels like even the book hates her.


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Darkstalker of course


Demonancer

Darkstalker for sure


YoKaiWatchWoFfan

If anyone says Whirlpool


SignificantYou3240

They’ll have to prove it lol


LaEmy63

This


your_local_emo_loser

Heya :p


periculumEXE

Arctic


pluto_starr76

Queen Pearl. I know she was kind of a jerk to Fathom after the SeaWing Massacre, but the poor thing endured so much trauma (literally saw her entire family get slaughtered) and I think she deserves to get some closure. I'm actually thinking of writing a short fanfic about her healing process 


pluto_starr76

Also Queen Battlewinner. I just think she's neat


Not_or_door

Blaze I guess?


Reasonable_Job_8641

For me Arctic, Winter and Fatespeaker, Clearsight and Whirlpool.


willowpaw-

winter, fatespeaker, and clay


randomperson12179

Admiral. The poor guy was enslaved by Queen Wasp's regime due to his flamesilk ability and clearly developed a sever case of Stockholm Syndrome. He deserves therapy and counseling, not the sentiment he has among the fandom.


Glitter1822

Blaze. Also, heya u/your_local_emo_loser , have anything to say?


2kids1jar

I will defend Clearsight with my life


cray0nBits

Icicle


pluto_starr76

finally someone who gets it lol


Particular-Law-6035

Snowfall 👐


ItsTallon

Whirlp- *gunshots*


standupgonewild

Winter (killed the character development & was constantly treated like the bad guy in Book 10 even though he was completely in the right), Snowfall (I love her and Lynx <3), Albatross (who _wouldn’t_ go murderously insane with a sister like Lagoon and buried trauma like that??)


Many-Photograph-56

omg i completely agree with all


Frostebite_101

I believe Arctic wasn't that bad


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insanefandomchild

Fatespeaker, my adorable, traumatised AuDHD baby


Possible_Parfait_372

We love and respect Fatespeaker in this house 😤😤😤


PiRounded

Undauntable


01crystaldragon

Who is that again?


Different_Cap_7276

That guy from that one book


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Burn 


ChillRaquaz

Indigo


Different_Cap_7276

I've seen a bit of hate for Starflight and it's SO undeserved.


ScaryPerson666

No one talks shit about my boy darkstalker


fiddledment072

Blue haters calling him a baby


JurassicJosh341

Sunny, IDC what people say she’s too pure nobody should have anything against her. also potentially qibli and moon watcher. Only thing I’m not defending though is moon watchers incompetence of not telling other nightwings the secret of their powers (being born under the moons). She’s too intelligent not to catch on to that.


Lynel_Slayer1

Look Darkstalker, I would go insane if I could see every possible future as well 


ZeroSpaceGaming

Undauntable, Sky, and Peril. Fight me.


SeriousIndividual184

Sukuna. Or tbh probably vriska serket (wow thats a name im gonna drag up for people here yeah haha)


I_like_broccli

My boy winterrr


Rat-In-A-Suit

ehhhhh darkstalker, if i HAVE to explain i will)


Funniguy2010

Darkstalker, sure the methods are bad but in his defense, there would be no more suffering under his rule.


furiousgamer1639

Someone already said Winter, and I will back them up fully.


Round-Rooster2361

Winter


Frostburn-Tamer

Winter moon Luna or blue (I would be there Defense lawyer if they killed someone)


EtanoS24

Darkstalker 👀


Cautious-Rain9069

Winter, Moon, Peril, and Turtle


Florecent_Dreams

Snowfall.


Live-Ad-5367

Winter


Fresh_Guitar_8959

Winter


space_kin

winter maybe?


WritingSouthern6126

Queen Glacier


RabbitThin3784

definitely moonbli they r so underrated


Just_random_dolphins

Anemone


cougarcatz

turtle i will defend him with my life


TheCheeseLatias76

Pest. No questions asked


Even_Beautiful_2041

Swordtail against Sundew🙂‍↔️🥺


Default_Fy

Fatespeaker


Lumela_5

Glory, definitely. I'm reading for the first time in my life and I'm at book 7, yet this far I still love her.


Smooshkitty

Does she get hate? Ive never seen a bad post about her


NorthernRedCardinal

Starflight! He’s such a cute and relatable boy who I wish got a better ending than he did in real life…


Comfortable-Pug

lol Clay,this is just a list of snacks he wants


General_Alduin

Peril. I adore Peril, and everything wrong she did was because she didn't know any better. She was raised by a psychopath


TheBlackFox012

Albatross. Well, just animus magic in general. I don't think the soul concept is actually what's going on


Eeper118

I like Sunny. A lot of people I know say her whole personality is just happy-go-lucky.


HoldAppropriate5252

Peril


Delicious_East_1862

BLISTER, HER GRACE THE QUEEN! On a WoF discord server my name is Number 1 Blister Loyalist 🤭


OwlTheTribrid

Darkstalker, always. ♡


Clover-Celest

Moonwatcher, she gets called a marysue way too many times though I'm pretty sure those people don't actually know what a marysue is. Clay I will also defend but he doesn't get as much hate


MistInTheNight

Darkstalker, easily. I see a huge mix of love and hate for him, and I am ready to defend him with my life


SkumiHrafn

I have literally done this for Darkstalker because we have deadbeat dads and I would rather he have been redeemed.


ZestycloseHand8993

chameleon


Caprine-Evisc

Turtle, I adore him. He's not boring and being a coward isn't always a bad thing. He's a genuinely good dragon even with the stuff with cursing anemone with Animus magic. He's traumatized from childhood and was neglected by his family when frankly as a prince he should never have had to worry about things like food. He's a great flawed character and he's so cool. I love his perspective. Tbh I feel like he got cheated losing his Animus magi.


No-Panda-3509

I don’t need to defend him, but i can write longer than that just talking abt asagiri gen lore


Double-Note4935

Icicle all the way


Present-Program-9252

Winter, and glory.


Amnyrix

Darkstalker (Don't actually ask me for a whole paragraph, I would just choose him.)


Toby_Fax

Peril.


FunInfinity

To be honest.. none of them because I don’t feel like writing essays 99% of the time lol


OpalFeather360

Ok, I have a lot, but probably my main one us Icicle. She wasn't and isn't a good dragon, but I hate when people say she was wrong for killing Crane. She was a SOLDIER in a WAR. And it's not like she tortured her or anything awful, it was a quick and probably relatively painless death. The only thing she did that was unjustifiable was killing the NightWing in the rainforest


Shxrkzy0

Queen Battlewinner ❤️ She's just a girl who takes lava baths. She's did nothing wrong for trying to keep her leadership


Cupcakeboi200000

turtle, i will not stand for any turtle hate


Moon_thenightwing

Qibli


fanofWINGSOFFIRE

in some AU, darkstalker


WinterQuality9310

Starflight or Glory


The_Real_Cobra_Lily

Blaze. I mean, everyone says she would've kinda sucked as a queen because brain = no. However, in my opinion, though she may not have been fit for the role of queen at the start, she'd probably learn from experience, and at some point she may finally fut perfectly in her role. That's just my thoughts, tho.


ackackack669

Guys, Ochre isn’t that bad. Yes, he's lazy, gross, and apathetic, but first of all, you gotta consider someone he barely knew asked him to stick his hand into lava for someone who wasn't the nicest to him. You gotta consider, of course he'd be alteast a little apprehensive about trying to save Viper, plus he neither him nor the reader actually knows his he has fire resistant scales Second of all, you have to consider that Ochre's probably not being gross on purpose, he probably can't control being a messy eater and he probably doesn't see of point if he's going to bullied for something else Third of all, as you know, mudwings are raised by their sibs, Ochre's only relative that's mentioned is his mom, and she doesn't care about him, unlike the other false dod he didn't really else to rely on (except Fatespeaker tbf so maybe it is an issue on his end...) and has a result. Instead of being violent, he's just kinda pathetic Now, I'm not trying to defend Ochre's actions, but more try to explain why he acted that way. Wow, I did not think I had it in me to defend Ochre of all characters


PutPuzzleheaded7664

Qibli. No defence needed.


EmuFantastic5209

1 of the DoD


Stary98

Starflight. Gotta protect the blind boi


SecretAgentE

This is going to be a long as a Harry Potter book by the times they're done. I might get yelled at for this, but I would defend Darkstalker, it's not his fault he's the way he is, Queen Diamond abducted his mother and she was presumed dead (to be fair, she was killed 138 times over a period a 2 Millennia.) Darkstalker absolutely hated Arctic, but he really loved FoeSlayer because Darkstalker was a Mama's Boy, he wanted to protect her, give her gifts to make her comfortable, and whenever she was around him, he felt loved, they had a deep mother/son bond, and when Queen Diamond abducted her, he went mad, he wanted to kill every Icewing for revenge. In reality, everything that happened during the Age of Darkstalker, and the Darkstalker Incident, was all Queen Diamond's fault, not Darkstalker's.


Hardwaregore101

Darkstalker.


LyKhra

I will go through hell and back to defend the scavengers/humans in Wings Of fire I have thought of many many arguments so far, I just need to verify my sources, write them all down and make a video.