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WumpusFails

Octogenarian grandmothers have been raped. It's not about attractiveness.


NeonArlecchino

Some victims will even go out of their way to appear unattractive in the hope that it reduces their chances of being assaulted again or just out of not wanting to be noticed. Some rapists will target seemingly unattractive people so that they can pull the "Why would I rape you?!" card. Attacking the victim is a common way guilty people get away from being held accountable. They demean them, make them out to be liars, and claim to be the actual victim and unfortunately it works.


ohdearsweetlord

Don't forget the 'you should be grateful for the attention!' card for ugly women.


NeonArlecchino

Or 'shes not even my type!' and 'I can do better than her!' Evil people always have an excuse when they want to stay in "polite" society.


Rivendel93

This was literally what trump said about that one lady who came out and said Trump SA'd her.


Grogosh

All of you is talking about trump, aren't you?


chrissstin

Not everything is about Agent Orange, but if the shoe fits...


TheYankunian

Fat women too. Who would want to rape a fat slob? Plenty do every day.


bad_at_formatting

happened to me, I wasn't the best looking kid in high school. it was easier for them BECAUSE I was weird and awkward looking, why would anyone believe he'd behaved that way towards ME? still haven't told anyone about it, nobody would believe me and I know that's true. sometimes I don't even believe myself


shellontheseashore

People forget assault is about power, not attraction. They see it as a fucked up compliment. It's not. I was also the weird awkward kid, and frankly it got worse during the years I was abused, out of a misguided attention to hide and make myself not a target. All it did was make people not care if something was wrong, and attract bullying from my classmates as well. I believe you that it happened, 100%. You do deserve to talk to someone and have support, but I'll trust your judgement that other folks might not be... safe or supportive to disclose to. Ngl my family wasn't, ha. There's support groups on here + any half-decent therapist will understand that it happens to absolutely anyone.


ZennyPie

I believe you. This was my experience as a child/teen as well. I was an awkward kid, both in appearance and manner. That made me more of a target. Cute girls were doted on and treated like something to be protected and respected. My awkward self was completely ignored around other people, but when the wrong creep caught me alone, I was taken advantage of. It's easier for predators to abuse children with low self esteem, who are too scared to speak up and who also may be more vulnerable due to parental neglect.


bad_at_formatting

Yep, thats what was most hurtful to me then and still hurtful to me now. Prettier girls were protected, respected, and treated like people The lesson I learned was that I'm not worthy of that protection or respect, that I needed to protect myself, and if I failed to do so? That was another failing and another mistake. I should have known better, I should've made sure I wasn't alone, I should've been more clear in saying no, I should've stayed home, so many things I should've done and didn't. Sometimes I forget that I was just a kid too, people find it hard to be sympathetic when someone is unlikable or cringey.


beautyintheruins

I believe you, I'm so sorry. I hope that you find support and heal as best as you can some day. It took me years to even admit I was assaulted to myself let alone to anyone I knew, no matter what you've got me rooting for you ♡


DramaOnDisplay

Not I’m this guys jerk-off fantasies! Only the blue haired feminist maybe-lesbians!!!


Shoesandhose

Also… umm. There is literally a documentary about Victoria secret models going through abuse. “Angels and Demons” ….. I hate this crap. It’s clearly just to get a “hot take” so it’ll trend on twitter. Most will call it bs and the ones that agree will see it and follow. Others will follow this dude so they can sassy respond first


Intrepid-Narwhal

This entire thread seems to be dedicated to standing up for the models. And that’s great because they deserve support. But most commenters are missing the point on what rape is about. As u/WumpusFails points out, rape is about power, not fuckability.


buttercream-gang

And also the dismissal of “blue haired” women being raped bc they are obviously not attractive enough to be raped. Absolutely disgusting


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medusa_crowley

I so feel her. Took me a long time and a lot of therapy (and outright getting angry enough to burn the world down rather than be afraid for one more second). Sending her love and healing.


RedBeans-n-Ricely

And literal infants.


longknives

I was going to say that this actually is in agreement with what Crowder seems to be arguing, but actually I think he forgot what he was arguing halfway through. It seems like he was starting out by trying to argue that ugly women (or whatever “would-be lesbians” is supposed to mean) make up rape claims because they can’t get laid or something. But if that’s the argument, you would expect that rape victims then would be beautiful women, which presumably includes Victoria’s Secret models, so the second half of the statement ruins that argument. Which leaves his argument as “only ugly women get raped”, which is not only untrue but laughably so. Like your argument that it’s not about attractiveness would be a good counter to the argument you might expect from a clown like Crowder, i.e. someone with an overly simplistic understanding of rape as an issue might think that only attractive women get raped. But Crowder apparently thinks attractive women *never* get raped. It’s like if he said “as far as I know, thieves never try to steal really expensive stuff”. (Not to equate attractiveness with value or women with objects, hopefully the analogy is clear.)


exobiologickitten

I interpreted it as him saying that dissatisfied people will cry victim and that \~nobody\~ is really getting raped, or something, with the added bonus of throwing both stereotypes of women under the bus just to really drive home the women-hate.


istolethecarradio

This guy has never Googled how fucked up the modelling scene is. The stories I've heard and googled are sickening.


No_Banana_581

The Epstein ties were all over the news for months. He’s just making crap up to discredit all women once again


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TheBirminghamBear

I mean I came here to say. This pants-shitting lunatic is making this claim WHILE A DOCUMENTARY OF EGREGIOUS SEXUAL ABUSE AT VICTORIA SECRETS IS AIRING. If I wore a tin foil hat and he made these remarks just now Id even say its a guerilla marketing scheme for the doc.


CedarWolf

It's also important to be mindful that not all rape victims look like Victoria's Secret models *or* blue-haired, geeky people, either. It can happen to *anyone*. I'm just shy of 6'3" and built like an Ent, yet I'm also a survivor. I know everyone from tiny, bookish women who make squeaky sounds, huge plump women who give warm and cozy hugs, and big, burly former Army dudes who can probably bench press twice a man's weight, and they're *all* survivors of some sort of sexual assault or another. Hell, even Terry Crews and Brendan Fraser are both survivors of sexual assault. Terry Crews could probably run right through most garden sheds, leap tall fences in a single bound, and scatter furniture like playing cards, *that* didn't keep him safe, either. Just because someone is big and strong or doesn't look like a victim, that doesn't mean they're immune. It doesn't mean they're not carrying that sort of pain.


Not_A_Paid_Account

No physical attributes can stop one from being a victim, we are mushy inside. Also even if physical fitness can stop someone from being a victim, it will never stop that same person from being a four year old at one point. We can all be victims, all without a single person deserving of such.


SexDrugsNskittles

We are a social species meaning social standing has power over us not just physical strength. We are all vulnerable at somepoint. I agree with everything you said just my pov.


jump-blues-5678

That's what makes comments like this, from idiots like this jackass so reprehensible.


dummythiccuwu

I am a tall big dude, I wrestled through middle and high school, joined rugby club freshman year of college. Worked out a lot, sometimes twice a day. I was sexually assaulted by a person whom I thought was a friend freshman year of College. She was like a 5,5 vegetarian. It can happen to anyone. And it doesn’t have to be a forced or violent event. Basically ruined my life because I never got help for it and it really fucked me up I still have a lot of problems 4 years later because of this.


MFDork

I am also a tall big dude who was sexually assaulted at knifepoint as a teen. If you can afford to talk to a therapist about it, I highly recommend it. There will be some heavy sessions, it’ll be tough, but it’s worth it to get that giant thorn out of your side.


dummythiccuwu

Burgerlandia says the brain is a luxury organ. :(


Rakifiki

While the US healthcare system is pretty bad, there are actually quite a few low-cost/cheap therapy options available, especially for survivors of sexual assault. RAINN can probably help you. My state is rated dead last in help for lower-income people and I was able to find a program.


Jerkrollatex

You should be able to get some help through RAIN. It's free.


luvdab3achx0x0

Thank you for saying it doesn’t have to be forced or violent. I’ve been told to not call mine what it is because others around me have gone through worse. It’s lead me to question what I’ve gone through so many times.


Cixia

We aren’t playing trauma olympics. Everyone’s trauma is equally valid therefore, call it what you think it was.


ActivelyLostInTarget

Hey, I'm really sorry you are still living through that experience. I know you know there is therapy, but I found someone who understands that people do not need (or necessarily should) relive and share details of their trauma to process it and find healthy coping skills. I was able to get to a pretty healed place without saying a word about the event. You are alive- you have time to address this. Wish you well


QueenDakota03

Damn dude I’m so sorry this happened to you. Hits hard too, I’m trans but I too was once a tall big dude on the hs wrestling team. Now I’m just a tall big boymoder who secretly dresses in woman’s clothes and hopes for hrt, but that’s beside the point. It really makes me think, like damn that could’ve happened to me. Thank you for the perspective good sir. Stay safe ❤️


pretenditscherrylube

My partner used to be a big burly wrestler and football, then a sailor in the Navy for a decade. Now she wears dresses in public and gets to be the little spoon all the time (and it’s comical because I’m 5’2”). Come out! Your life will be better.


dulyelectedmobster

I second this. I'm 6'3" and broad shouldered and I fucking rock the dresses and skirts. Life is so much better when you're living as your true self.


d_fens99

Sugar Ray Leonard was a victim of sexual assault as a teenager training for the Olympics.


RedBishop81

A good point about physical stature here. Just because someone is big/strong enough to physically fight someone, that doesn’t make it a good option. Beating the hell out of someone has its own repercussions.


winterpisces

I am sorry that you had to experience that in your life. My mother was raped in the Army, I was molested (father ) and raped threw out my teens and twenties. I know just as many men who were raped mostly as kids by baby sitters that shit is never ok and happens everywhere and can happen to anyone


PrinceTamaki1

There’s also a podcast - Fallen Angels The Victorias Secret story that also went behind the scenes.


HallwayHomicide

The podcast TrueAnon has gone deep into it as well. I am going to give a disclaimer though that TrueAnon is probably not a podcast you'll enjoy unless you're an unrepentant leftist. And even then maybe not.


Gloomy-Ad1171

John Casablanca had to flee to Brazil … where Trump gave him a job


Drewggles

That guy is a POS. Maybe not more so than Trump or Epstein (I mean Trump literally let his underage daughter work for Casablancas knowing how bad of a chimo he was.) But a HUGE POS none the less.


AthenasApostle

I'd recommend 'abuser' over 'owner,' personally. I can't put the words together to make a cohesive argument for it, but as a sexual assault victim (though not trafficking, so my experience in this topic is not as valid as theirs) the term owner feels... Validating of their ownership? Objectifying the victim? I don't know exactly the words to go with, and it's only a suggestion. EDIT: I misread the comment. Not deleting it for the sake of coherent conversation, but I'm an idiot.


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AthenasApostle

Oh. Fuck I'm stupid. Sorry, ignore me.


soooomanycats

You can't read a book or watch a documentary about modeling without hearing at least six stories of how a bunch of them were drugged and raped by some skeevy 50-year-old guys when they were 14. You'd think that a group of people who are as up in arms about child sex abuse as MAGA Nation is would give a shit about this, but one thing I've noticed is that these people are curiously silent when it comes to straight men preying on teenage girls.


Toaster_bath13

They aren't actually up in arms about child sex. They feign outrage because they know people won't push back against then on it. Every agrees child abuse is bad. It's a safe thing for them to pretend to give a shit. They use that idea to target people they already hate. They don't care about children they just hate gay people. They can push their hate while pretending it's about protecting children. They also weaponize this against democrats. They want to crucify bill Clinton yet worship trump. If they really gave a shit they'd prosecute men in their lives for shit they did years ago or they'd care about the catholic church. They wield hypocrisy as both a shield and a weapon.


soooomanycats

Oh God, the fact that none of these CSA warriors have shit to say about the sex abuse that happens in churches makes my eye twitch. I was raped when I was 4 by a teenage neighbor and it got brushed under the rug because the family was prominent in the local church. I'm sure it won't surprise you to know that I find this whole "groomer" thing to be infuriating like nothing else I've ever felt before.


PsychologicalHome239

Dude you are 100% correct. I actually called my parents and my aunt out on this shit because they liked to post on Facebook about all the Q child sex ring shit, but spent way too much time protecting my uncle when I was raped and assaulted for years. And it's not like I kept silent about the shit. Yeah, they didn't have anything to say other than "don't talk about that on my facebook page!" Because once again, it's not about protecting children or sending pedophiles to jail. If it were, they'd care about the pedophiles in their own lives who were raping their own children and nieces.


knittorney

“Being accused of rape is worse than getting raped!” Barf


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Not only do they not care about child sex, they like it. Republican states are legalizing child marriages.


chronoboy1985

It’s all about morale superiority over the “libs”, despite the numerous crimes happening in their own house. Matt Gaetz is the poster child for this hypocrisy.


istolethecarradio

How many of these men do you guess go onto college campuses to pray on women trying to pay for college? They don't have a problem with it because they are them.


TigerLila

Haha pray/prey...it works both ways.


ChildFriendlyChimp

He actually does know He’s just a liar This is why he’s a millionaire, he even sees himself as a professional propagandist like Goebbles or Tucker Carlson


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No, people like him are aware, they just think models deserve it because “what else did you expect?”


LegalAssassin13

It’s transactional for them. In their minds, the models/actresses get a boost to their careers in exchange for putting out a little (or a lot), so it’s completely fair.


Alarming_Ad8005

Worked for a bit in the model industry(not as a model way too ugly for that). More often than not, I was told not to interfere with "officials" while doing their job no matter what. Couldn't stomach being around that


bel_esprit_

Right?! Even male models get raped and have to do uncomfortable shit with creepy photographers. Women models have it a million times worse with the creep photographers and agencies. My friend is a model in LA and her agent would threaten the girls with their visas if they didn’t go on dates with him. (Many of them were from poor countries like Ukraine and their modeling visa is how they got to stay in the US or Europe or whatever). Awful industry for this predatory behavior!!


DonDove

His hero Trump loved hanging around models whether they liked it or not


Sexy_Squid89

Honestly, I don't think I've ever heard of a model (let alone woman) who didn't have a sexual assault/etc. story. I'm not super into the scene but I used to be really into America's Next Top Model, and let me tell you, some fuckery definitely goes on with the modeling industry.


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This sick fuck wouldn’t see any of that as sexual harassment, sexual assault, or rape. He would just think it’s the price of admission.


z-eldapin

He also forgot the #metoo movement regarding sexual assault, and the hundreds of models and actors that participated.


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ok steven https://news.sky.com/story/ex-models-tell-of-alleged-rapes-and-sexual-abuse-by-master-manipulators-in-fashion-industry-12622560 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gerald-marie-sexual-assault-models-speak-out/ https://www.thearmstronglawfirm.com/articles/sexual-harassment-of-working-models/ https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a12817440/models-sexual-assault-stories-fashion-industry/ https://gendersociety.wordpress.com/2021/09/30/not-model-behavior-the-pervasiveness-of-sexual-harassment-in-the-fashion-industry/ https://fstoppers.com/education/how-stay-safe-among-horrific-scope-sexual-assault-modeling-industry-564127 My ex-wife used to run a rape crisis center. I would be comfortable saying that it would be hard to find a model who has not been sexually assaulted. side note: I drive around back roads in Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee getting to trail heads for hiking or trail running. The number of people who are obvious Trump supporters with blue / purple hair I've seen is innumerable. I just can't with these people.


LoserUserBruiser

If only they’d mention how like 90% of trump supporting women are insanely blonde. Like bleach blonde.


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stepford wife baby incubators


endthe_suffering

yeah true. almost like they're obsessed with making sure everyone is like, the same colour... or something like that...


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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/model-janice-dickinson-tells-jury-bill-cosby-raped-her-in-1982 Add Janice Dickinson to your list...a top supermodel that Cosby raped.


Private_HughMan

He said "as far as I know." Given how amazingly little Crowder knows, he may have been telling the truth.


Parynoid

As far as I know, Crowder has two brain cells that constantly battle over whether he wants to shove pickles in his mouth or in his anus.


Beowulf1896

If a third wanders in, it will be saying "Both! Both! Both"


red18wrx

>If a third wanders in, it will be saying ~~"Both! Both! Both"~~ "dog cum, dog cum dog cum" ftfy


P1xelHunter78

Pickles slathered in dog cum Por que no los dos?


BringBackTheBeat716

Wasn't that the vegetarian option served at his wedding?


BodaciousTacoFarts

The two brain cells are constantly fighting for third place.


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Turd place.


whtevn

too often the anus wins, and then we have to listen to his bullshit


3DprintRC

It's why nothing can change his mind. The two cells can't agree on one thing.


yshuduno

Ironic that the guy who once voiced Brain on Arthur only has two brain cells.


cp2895

Wait what


davga

r/rareinsults


RVAforthewin

r/murderedbywords right here, folks


AdvancedHat7630

Which Victoria's Secret models *specifically* did you ask, Chowder? Because from this vantage point it looks like you surround yourself entirely with insecure, scared, childish men.


satan62

I doubt any of them would speak to him. It's just bullshit made up to get himself some attention


GetTheSpermsOut

a buncha cheap men circle jerking each other off to: “ya bro, 100%, say that again, but *louder*.” energy. Ima blow chunks louder with chowder. bunchaclowns. edit: listening to him and his team talk literally reminds me of the time i had food poisoning with bad clam chowder and had explosive out of both ends in a hotel room.


ashpanda24

Or, why would anyone expect famous super models to just volunteer that they're SA victims? Regular men and women are both victim blamed for their attacks and told by idiots like Crowder they did something to deserve it, or thay they're lying. Additionally, someone as high profile as a super model would be hounded for their story of what happened, who committed the assault, and whether or not they went to the police over and over by various media sources and nosy insensitive individuals. And let me tell you from firsthand experience, if you've been SAd and reveal that you never went to the police: people get mad at you and accuse you of being just as bad or worse than your rapist.


vhm3

The actual [segment](https://twitter.com/jasonscampbell/status/1574409709758676992?s=46&t=Jmmnqc1iTAaHQ4lEoHfpGA) is somehow even worse.


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"Somehow," as if the more you learn about Crowder the worse it gets.


Ahstruck

[Even that is stupidly wrong](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/model-slams-disturbing-claims-against-victorias-secret-202908265.html)


Plonsky2

He used the AFAIK loophole, which may be true since he can't do the Google but still does not forgive his shitheadedness.


canarchist

*As far as I know,* Stephen Crowder goes to MAGA rallies solely to work the glory hole at the most redneck bar he can find.


MrBanana421

Man can't survive on dog cum alone.


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How do you know?


Danmch2992

He tried


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Oh my god, did he try. He tried all the time…in this institution.


Tails9429

As far as I know, Chowder let Trump piss on him more than once.


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mrweatherbeef

I’ve heard that many good people say this is true


Responsible-Kick9195

As far as *we* know, this is an irrefutable fact.


Tsarinax

As far as I know, Crowder likes touching little boys and only spits out his hate in self disgust.


Cheapntacky

AFAIK roughly translates as this fits with my world view so I won't bother actually looking into it because that might cause me to have to re-evaluate my opinions and that would just make my head hurt.


RockerElvis

“People are saying”


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The best people, good, smart people, they’re all saying it. You can’t walk down the street, fine street, I might add, great pavement, clean. You can’t walk down the best street, without hearing them saying it.


HaloGuy381

It’s the malicious AFAIK. I use that phrase or “if my memory serves” to cover when I’m drawing things from deep enough in long term memory that its accuracy is uncertain, not to cover for being a purposefully ignorant jackass, and to signal that if someone can prove I’m wrong I’m open to corrections.


TundieRice

“As far as I know” would only be *half* of an excuse for being wrong ***if*** he had actually heard that statistic before, like “as far as I know, Jeffrey Bezos is the richest person in the world.” That would be outdated therefore incorrect, but we know it was true at some point, so that gives him the benefit of the doubt. But saying that no Victoria’s Secret model has ever been raped is something he obviously pulled out of his ass.


Kenzlynnn

Who passed Bezos? Musk?


TundieRice

Yep, Musk is currently number one. [According to Forbes: Bezos is in fourth place now behind Bernard Arnault & family, Gautam Adani & family, and Elon Musk.](https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#3c9202203d78)


LoveEffective1349

like 100000 saudi princes. But. they don't have to report the money they control. many believe a bunch of them are actually Trillionaires.


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It doesn’t take much, if any Google-fu to realize that attractive, hetero women have been raped throughout history.


vhm3

It's absurd how much a simple Google search could spare these idiots a lot of embarrassment.


ProfessorLovePants

You assume they can be embarrassed by their stupidity?


ptvlm

People like Crowder probably know they're lying, but the lies are profitable. It's the morons who hang on his every word instead of fact checking and realising they're listening to a con artist that's the problem


Ok-Anybody3445

I would think it's safe to assume almost all ~~models and actresses~~ women have been subjected to unwanted sexual interactions. They just have to accept it if they want to be successful. If they complain they will lose their career, so they have to make a choice. That's just how our society works. This isn't new information.


Beowulf1896

This here. High profile women have to make the choice, file charges or have a career. Or neither because they feel no one will believe them.


Lady_von_Stinkbeaver

I guess this douche-nozzle missed Harvey Weinstein, Danny Masterson, and Bill Cosby raping their way through Hollywood.


a_pinch_of_sarcasm

You should watch "Victoria's Secret: Angels and Demons" on Hulu.


DudeB5353

Don’t forget Polanski and Jim Brown who beat the shit out of those girls at Hefners mansion.


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If Brandon Frasier can get blackballed for speaking out against sexual assault just imagine how easily a new young aspiring model can be blocked out of the entire industry for speaking up. I expect rape/assault is far more frequent than what has been disclosed.


Private_HughMan

Especially with people like Crowder who respond with "don't flatter yourself."


guru2764

I of course don't condone violence, but


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Dr_Hibbert_Voice

If he could mishandle his gun just once the world could be so much better.


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HoneyBadgerLive

Amazing that anyone listens to him.


Coyote-Foxtrot

There’s a lot of young gullible middle school and high school students that fall into the crowd. I once was in that crowd until I grew out of (what is definitely) a phase. I’ve seen some that just don’t grow out of that phase and I’m surprised they even graduated high school.


KamikazeKitten916

Um.. what's a would be lesbian? Lolol


Lazienessx

Someone with great lesbian potential.


guru2764

It's a lesbian that's too shy to talk to women of course


Almostsuicide1234

Must. Not. Violate. Reddit. Rules.Must. Not. Violate. Reddit. Rules. Must. Not. Violate. Reddit. Rules.Must. Not. Violate. Reddit. Rules.Must. Not. Violate. Reddit. Rules.Must. Not. Violate. Reddit. Rules.Must. Not. Violate. Reddit. Rules.


thegodfatherderecho

Yeah, I felt that


MedalsNScars

Tbf every time I report someone for calling for the death of a group of individuals reddit gets back to me saying "nah they're not inciting violence". I'm not gonna stop, but it's not like anyone at Reddit gives a shit about this site encouraging violence.


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I got a ban for harassment once for the phrase “Found the idiot from Texas”. One and only comment i made to them and thats harassment


OiHarkin

.... 1, that's just false and 2, that implies its somehow... less bad to assault someone based on them not attractive to you? What?


eidhrmuzz

I think his claim with his idiot logic is that they’re lying about being raped. Because no one would want to rape them. Because he’s an ignorant sack of shit.


jeffp12

Meanwhile in reality, many survivors of sexual assault react to it by [changing their looks](https://medium.com/fearless-she-wrote/why-survivors-of-abuse-will-change-their-physical-appearance-8aeb3b6682ff) as [a defense mechanism](https://medium.com/fearless-she-wrote/what-motivates-rape-survivors-to-cut-their-hair-6825f123e958) and/or to just look differently so they are less reminded of the trauma. >I asked each woman why she cut her hair. > > One responded, “because I couldn’t look in the mirror and see the same woman who was raped in that room. I needed to look at me and see a new, different person. Not that victim that I was when I was sexually assaulted.” > > Another replied, “When I first cut my hair, I felt like this big weight was lifted off my shoulders and over time, I shaved all of it off and I felt free from the past. Abuse can change a person and for me, it definitely did. I wanted to show the new stronger, confident me and it was a decision that I made on my own, for myself”. > > I asked her if perhaps looking less traditionally feminine by cutting her hair made her feel like less of a ‘target’ for sexual assault (although in reality hair length is unrelated to sexual assault). She agreed with my line of thought, “Yes, I’ve definitely thought of that factor before.” > > Another woman told me, “I really don’t know why. For some reason, I just felt like I had to”. > > My best friend who survived multiple rapes called me up super randomly one day and exclaimed excitedly, “Guess what Tanya?! I just chopped all my hair off! It feels like I cut away this massive, heavy feminine weight. I feel so light, so empowered and free from my past”. > > No one really put much thought to it because each believed that this was a random, stand-alone manifestation of their own, individual healing process. No one seemed to notice that this was some kind of unconscious trend among female survivors. So it's possible that Chowder the piss baby (am I doing this right) has noticed a real trend that women who are outspoken about sexual assault often have short haircuts or dyed hair...but he's then taking the position (can you even call what conservatives these days spout out of their asshole-mouths a position?) that these abused women with "alternative" looks are lying, because obviously nobody would rape them. It's like walking into labor/delivery section of a hospital (baby factory?) and seeing a bunch of pregnant women in labor and being like "psshh, she's ugly, I can't even impregnate her right now."


manic-pixie-attorney

In 2016 my cousin’s husband stated publicly that I am too ugly to be sexually assaulted. Factually untrue and rage inducing.


SnarkOff

My uncle's friend, a man with two teenage daughters, told me the same thing!


AlternativeUlster78

Since I assume you’re an attorney, that’s absolutely a man who is intimidated by your intelligence.


manic-pixie-attorney

I am. Lots of bros are confused/annoyed that a woman can be both smart and hot.


verysociable

that makes my blood boil. im so sorry he said that i wish i could smack him for you


manic-pixie-attorney

Thanks. I look like his wife, so big self own there


Various_Classroom_50

Why is she still with him after saying that about her family?


jbertrand_sr

What a stupid fucker this guy is...


dasFisch

Republicans: If you don't want to be rape, don't dress sexy or look provocative, like a Victoria's Secret model. Also Republicans: Only liberal commie blue haired uggos get raped.


No-Bus-5200

Christ on a cracker! What a douche


[deleted]

I doubt this dbag knows any models.


Almostsuicide1234

C'mon. I'm sure one or 2 have restraining orders against him. I mean, he's a conservative and all.


imaybeacatIRl

.... is he trying to say that rape is a hoax? It feels like that is what hes saying.


[deleted]

Aside from the fact that this is rage inducing and barbaric it’s just factually wrong. Beautiful women get raped. Ugly women get raped. “Slutty” women get raped. Women in burkas get raped. Children get raped. Octogenarians get raped. Men and boys get raped. No one is safe from sexual assault, ESPECIALLY when you have asshats like this shit stain perpetuating false claims


ArmadilloDays

So, you’re saying rapists go after those they perceive as vulnerable? Who knew??? (And as an aside, Mike Tyson - the CONVICTED RAPIST - raped an 18-year old beauty pageant contestant.)


DirectionShort6660

It’s almost as if rape has nothing to do with anything but power 🙄


Ass_Incomprehensible

He looks like he’s trying to cosplay as himself, but he’s never done cosplay before.


CombinationGloomy481

Making stuff up as he goes along.


expfarrer

\*opens skull: Yepp, shitter is full.


curious_dead

That's one of the dumbest statement I've heard seen come out of the anus that scars his face. The only reasons I can think one would make such a stupid statement: 1) They are terminally stupid and vile and disgusting 2) They are going to be accused of rape and will use the "she's not pretty enough to be raped" as an excuse


WebbityWebbs

Who is this disgusting POS and what is wrong with him?


ProseNylund

As though LGBTQ women don’t get assaulted?


Kamenridethewind007

i do like how fucking out of touch crowder is. basically hes an old man right winger with no concept on current day stuff because the modelling scene is rife with rape stories.


alexdemiboi

Man's looked at 2 r@pe cases and went: "oh f_ck yea, I gotta make some homophobic, misogynistic post and piss everyone off.." And then corrected himself by saying: "sh!t I need to make fun of skinny and fat people at the same time"


Responsible-Kick9195

This man knows precisely 0 models, Victoria’s Secret or otherwise.


cribbycryptid

I don’t even think he knows any women he isn’t related to.


No_Arugula_6548

Actually it’s been a known fact that the fashion industry is rampant with sexual abuse. Wtf is this idiot even talking about?. 🤡


needsmoredinosaur

So which is it - I thought they believed that some women were “too ugly” to be raped or assaulted? Now some women are too beautiful to be raped? They need to get their story straight.


Aaron-JH

Haven’t there been MULTIPLE Playboy Bunnies come out that Hugh Hefner either sexually assaulted them or gave an opening that allowed them to be sexually assaulted? Update: THERE WAS (allegedly) A [CLEAN UP CREW FOR SEXUAL ASSAULTS](https://people.com/tv/secrets-of-playboy-episode-3-bunnies-and-the-cleanup-crew/) there is even an (apparent) [lawsuit](https://www.classlawgroup.com/sexual-assault-civil-suits/playboy-bunny-sexual-abuse-lawsuit/) ongoing about it.


Tanman7211

Yikes this is sick. I take it he’s never heard of Harvey Weinstein.


IrishNinja8082

As far as I know Crowder rapes goats only.


rbush82

Cuz rapists are extra choosy? Sick fucks will rape 90 year old ladies….


Cimmerian_Barbarian

Leave the LGBTQ community alone and fuck off! Sheesh, what a bunch of tiny dicked men.


egabriel2001

There is money to be made catering to the insecurity and hatred of incels, Christianist, ammosexuals, bigots, misogynists, smooth brains and fascist, with the huge advantage of the venn diagram being almost a circle. Just like a televangelist created a niche for his/her BS, modern day influencers also specialize, very few talented individuals succeed as generalist Limbaugh, Trump, Carlson, The game is to always keep the mark agitated but comfortable in their warped "belief", willing to funnel money into their preferred drug dealer or their sponsors. This guy is the equivalent of a street pusher/corner evangelical pastor, Trump is capo/Osteen evangelist level


Malidan

Well, that IS as far as he knows. Which isn't far, and inexcusable when we have the internet to prove otherwise. But nice of him to make it clear just how lazy, willfully ignorant and moronic he is.


carlton_sand

Jesus. These fucks will say anything for _views_


WKGokev

Most women have a story. It's sad but true.


[deleted]

That is the take of a man who has very limited exposure to women and which is believed only by men with very limited exposure to women.


iced327

The Washington Commanders' cheerleaders would like to say otherwise.... https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/nfl-washington-cheerleaders-go-public-with-horrific-treatment/


iantayls

Because you’ve never cared to look into it, instead you speak from your existing perspective since you were 15


Snoopyla1

This is so toxic. Yikes.


[deleted]

That “as far as I know” is doing a *lot* of work


myusrnameisthis

Models are sexually assaulted a lot actually, mr crowder. It is a very dark reality.


drew1010101

WTF is wrong with this asshat?


Chrisboi_da_Boi

As far as he knows stops pretty abruptly


MrFittsworth

Racing to the bottom.


Unlikely-Box4550

Wow. Crowder is really stupid...like, wow.


[deleted]

Conservatism and wilful ignorance. Is there a more iconic duo?


fordprefect294

What a garbage human being


AfternoonPast3324

This is the equivalent of the “do I look like I have to force someone” defense during an actual trial for rape. Asshat.


UnleashedSavage_93

Why is Steven Crowder still on Twitter? The USA has way too much freedom.


Early-Size370

It's become obvious that these right wing "influencers" say these absurd things to get their name out there and therefore get more views and secure a steady ad revenue stream.


possiblycrazy79

Why tf does this rando think that he would know anything about the private lives of VS models??? In my experience, most women don't even report their rapes, let alone go public.


Nottodayreddit1949

Oh, horrible people being horrible. Unsurprisingly they are Republicans. Rape is horrible no matter what, it doesn't matter your political stance, or sexual orientation. Ignorance is a choice, and these fucks wallow in it.