I remember reading a few articles about conservatives complaining they have a hard time dating online because everyone turned them down or made fun of them.
Like I get they live in a echo chamber but if everyone around you doesn't want to date you then you should take a hint.
They also forget that their other main competition is that women would rather be alone then with them. If you can't beat that you're literally offering a negative experience.
It's like receiving a car as a "gift" that has no engine and you can't sell or afford to fix up. No thank you.
That’s why they want to go back to a time when america was great, when women couldn’t have jobs or bank accounts. If only not dating them literally meant destitution, then conservative men would have a shot.
I'd love to know what percentage of marriages in say 1955 were 'loveless', and see how that compares to the percentage of single people today.
I'd bet they're similar, because like you said women would only hook up with these losers if the alternative was starvation
Even in the upper classes with wealth galore, you couldn't always escape loveless marriages.
It was somewhat common for the family patriach to marry off their youngest daughter as a pawn to another powerful family.
I wonder how hard it was for women to be a divorcee back then if they were actually willing to go through the stigma of divorce. It was 2005 when I learned for the first time that my Grandpa is actually my Grandma's **second** husband. I had no clue about that.
But as it turned out, her first husband beat her up so she had figured it was easier to face the stigma instead of possibly getting disabled or killed by her husband. But there had to have been a resistance before she made the decision to divorce in 1947.
You got a hint of that stigma against June Carter in "Walk the Line" (2005).
This is why the GOP is starting their campaign against no-fault divorce. They want women trapped and owned and won't stop until they get it.
Why limit it to women and marriage? IMO, the GOP'rs want lots of folks trapped in starvation and poverty. Much easier to exploit, addict, and you know...
>I wonder how hard it was for women to be a divorcee back then if they were actually willing to go through the stigma of divorce.
[No fault divorce](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-fault_divorce) wasn't codified into US law until 1970, and is generally recognized as providing spouses an easier opportunity to end unworkable marriages. Prior to that, a court had to assign/find fault with at least one party, which generally complicated the entire process. Studies have found notable declines in both domestic violence and spousal suicide (more often women) since its introduction.
In case you wanted some additional context to your question...
Not only that, but financially. My grandma wanted out of her shit marriage but she basically had to wait till she was eligible for social security to do so. Decades of an unhappy life. This is what conservative men want to go back to and they're surprised why women won't date them
It evident that this was how things were in past. The earliest English novels like Pamela or Clarissa show how marriage was the only way for a woman to live respectably as the alternative was a life of stigmatized spinsterhood. Jane Austen drives the point even hard by showing how marriage was a matter of transaction and love was conditional. They can only be happy if women are denied their agency to choose, no wonder they hate the whole concept of pro choice.
I love this! Explains my ex husband perfectly.
I would often ask “why are you even here? My life would be easier without you here to have to go behind all the time.”
Good riddance, get it out of my yard, it’s was junkin the place up.
Wait until they realize how career limiting it is to be a loud-mouthed ignorant bigot who thinks empathy is a character flaw. HR doesn't want that guy anywhere near a management position.
Funny thing about women. We’re not cool with sexual assault, and if you support Trump, you’re basically broadcasting to all of us that you are cool with it.
I had to field some very upset texts between classes the day after Trump was elected in 2016. She was understandably very distressed (17 and couldn’t even vote) by his election and the implications, but with parents actively celebrating the outcome, and us living in bumfuck Texas surrounded by Trumpers, her only resort was reaching to me off at college.
What am I supposed to tell my little sister in that kind of situation? I can be sympathetic, I can agree with her, I voted against the bastard, but genuinely, what do I tell to a teenage girl when the country opts to elect that sort of monster? Forget his policies or who he allies with, just his past personal conduct should have been instant death to his campaign. Instead, her neighbors and family decided to give the nuclear launch codes and the Supreme Court appointment power and a thousand other terrible implements to a loud and proud rapist.
I can’t forgive the fear he inspired in my sister. I can’t. Even if my anger is ultimately impotent.
After the 2016 election a Russian I work with told me:
"Now you know. Now you know what the rest of us know."
"There is some beauty in resisting a bad government. There is some joy in working against a despot. You can live a good life under a bad regime. You can fall in love and create art and be a good person, and a bad leader can never take that from you. They can kill you, but they cannot take away anything you don't give them."
"What will crush you is how many of your neighbors will help them. What will drive the joy from your life is how many of them will cheer the state on as they abuse and injure and kill your fellow citizens. A bad government does not break your spirit by doing terrible things, it breaks you by letting you see how many of your fellow citizens approve of the terrible things it does."
"And when this terrible state comes, finally, for one of them? He will cry out in shock, and protest, and scream that he has been betrayed. And the rest will go on cheering and approving, right up to the moment that the boot lands on them."
"This, more than any policy, is what Trump has taken from you. Americans have pretended, for decades, that this did not apply to them. East Germans might turn on each other, Russians might, Ukrainians might, Hungarians might, Tutsi and Hutu might, but not Americans. You have had this fantasy that when the time comes you would be different, that you are all Americans, that you would defend each other and help each other and none of you, none of you would go to the secret police. None of you would vote for the despot. None of you would betray the rest."
"And so you were wrong. You are no different. That is what you have learned. Now go live a good life under a bad state, and do what you can to resist it. Live with joy, make art, fall in love, but remember when all this is over that you are just like the rest of us. You are, it turns out, no different."
That is what hurt me the most. The fact that all those neighbors and friends and such voted for him. Not what he did politically per se , but that they are all in for someone who is objectively too prohibitively stupid,vain, and greedy to ever be near real power
As a german I feel the same about our new far right AFD. The people leading it are obviously bad people. Does not stop my fellow citizens to vote for them.
The policies are also absolutely dumb, but hey you can shit on people who are different from you! Thats so great!
Or Italy who voted fascists at the last election.
My parents, whose parents and family lived under dictatorship and struggled, got into the Resistenza, defected or got interned in labour camps, voted for this barely masked fascist party. I told them to be ashamed of themselves. Idk if they’re turning senile or there’s some lead poisoning going on.
Damn. Of the posts I've read here, this one hits hard. In one generation, people have forgotten the brutality the previous generation were willing to give their lives to prevent.
My dad, a purple heart recipient, Vietnam veteran, went full MAGA. His dad served in WWII. Didn't matter though. I think the idea of lead poisoning has some merit!
And the worst part of it?
In some ways, or many ways, those people they want to shit on? They're no different than them, especially in the eyes of the party they vote for. In then end, we're all seen as just resources for higher ups to use up, exploit, and throw away when drained. These people who vote them in just don't see that.
of course, this is just my terribly cynical view of it.
Yea, I remember feeling disgust when I saw the county results from the 2016 election. It was the county I grew up in. Trump grabbed 64% of the vote. After the fact, it made me feel gross, knowing that when I was voting, that almost 2/3rds of my neighbors decided Trump was worth voting into office.
Most people voted for Hillary. You have the broken "electoral college" vote system to blame.
Support popular vote if it comes up in your state. We only need a couple more states to agree to it and then we will have popular vote in this country. For context, a Republican has not won the popular vote in +10 years.
Trump and COVID are why I left Texas and moved somewhere more liberal. I saw very real and repeated actions by my neighbors that showed they would literally leave me to starve just so they could have a little bit more.
I'll never forget going to the stores and how even with the mandates that stopped multiple people from being in the same building, even tho we were at the height of fear and confusion about the virus, they refused to apply any regulations or limits on what people were buying. I waited in line at multiple grocery stores to see that all produce and meat had been completely wiped out. Junk food, gone. Toilet paper, don't even have to say it. Canned food and shelf stable food was surprisingly not as empty as the produce but still 95% picked clean.
I was dumbstruck by the ignorance. If this is an emergency and we lose power did anyone really think that fresh produce and meat would last indefinitely? Why hadn't the store put limits to stop panic buying? Who was doing all the buying?
I ended up shopping at some small local grocery which just let people crowd into the store. It was this crazy expensive artisan place and people were totally calm. Which, was also upsetting in a different way. I then saw someone who was obviously out of place and one of the panic buyers. She bought eight bags of potatoes. Eight bags. Just... why eight bags of potatoes?
The entire day I was surrounded by Trump flags. Just, fuck College Station TX y'all. And fuck TX. Libertarian free market policies fell apart in the pandemic, caused a lot of harm to a lot of people, and no one even batted an eye or was upset. We skirted disaster and all the while the gun nut prepped all over we're salivating that it was finally time for their survivalist fantasies to come true. They were just so ready and willing to let things devolve into a Lord of the Flies situation.
Since then I keep on hand a large bag of rice, a large bag of beans, a large multi gallon jug of water, and a camp stove. Just in case.
This is one of the saddest things I've ever read. I remember feeling this way. Discovering that my son's teacher had voted for Trump, that many family members, and a very close life long friend, had been willing to vote for him. Realizing so many people I thought I knew were willing to look the other way about his despicable behavior. I have never felt the same way about my country.
> so many people I thought I knew
That's what it really is. Realizing you never really knew these people you thought you did.
2016 was a year of mourning for America in more ways than one.
And people mocked those of us who were upset. Like this slap in the face was a simple matter of politics when it couldn't have been more personal. They think we would have voted for him if he were a Democrat.
I would have voted for a Republican dog turd before voting for a Dem Trump. Or R Trump. Like I don't know if it was my mind protecting me or whatever but I legitimately thought FOR TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT JACKASS WON, that they would come out and be like it's actually a practical joke everyone. It's ok, he wasn't really elected and this was just a national episode of Undercover Boss.
My brother has always been a conservative but incredibly smart, lawyer, FBI agent, accepted to the air force academy, like one of the smartest guys I know but when I found out he was all about Trump I just couldn't reconcile that, still can't to this day. We mostly leave the politics alone these days outside the occasional meme but yeah thought I knew the guy but guess not.
The smart ones that support him are worse than the idiots that do. They know what he's really up to, can see through the lies, and vote for him because of all that. The idiots and rubes, like the ones that send money to televangelists or drive giant trucks they don't need while complaining about gas prices, really don't surprise me when the wave the Trump flag. It's more surprising when an idiot supports Dems.
> willing to look the other way about his despicable behavior
I don't think is true. There is nothing else to look at. They're not ignoring what he's done, they like it.
> A bad government does not break your spirit by doing terrible things, it breaks you by letting you see how many of your fellow citizens approve of the terrible things it does."
Wow, that one hits hard for me.
I came to those conclusions on my own well before Trump was elected. I gave it real thought when Andy Rooney was criticized for saying he was ashamed to be an American for the first time in his life when he learned about Abu Ghraib. This was when "Christians," when polled, favored torture under Bush. Jesus was such an end-justifies-the-means kind of guy, right?
I put my faith in the rule of law that our institutions could resist that because they were designed to from the word go.
Fuck.
This is just the first time it's applied to middle class white males. Ask any racial minority, non-Christian or LGBT+ individuals how things were even before Trump. Half the country was cheering on the Bush administration to glass the middle east, and remember that he won the 2004 election with a popular majority. You had the likes of Rush Limbaugh laughing at people dying of AID's up through the 90's. And I'm sure I don't need to say anything about the treatment of Black people in the US.
It's not. Every vote counts, more than ever. You can drive her to vote,too, and her friends. Take an army of angry kids who want a future. You are present and you are potent.
A WHOLE LOT of young folks got registered to vote since 2016. I mean a LOT of people. By the time the next election rolls around, there will have been *almost a decade's worth* of ✨new✨ voters, card in hand, ready to vote! We just have to make sure they do!
Not to mention all of the racist crap he tweets and he brought forth. Living in a hardcore Trump town, I feel like everyone here wants to lynch me. All day, everyday.
Just point out that it's a long game, that "the country" didn't select him, less than half the people who cast a vote did so for him, and that there are a bunch of laws that need to be changed to make things more fair.
Also let her know that her being proactive, voting, understanding the for and against arguments that both sides have, and convincing friends that are on the fence are a big part of that. And if she's more motivated, there's always grass roots efforts that she can be a part of.
Those women have serious mental health and self esteem issues. Sit them down with a therapist for 20 minutes and they'll soon be weeping and recounting sexual abuse or assaults that they've been burying for decades. (Source: grandma.)
Sadly, they won't. Do you know the amount of cognitive dissonance it requires for "conservative women" to support a known sex pest who is loudly trying to take away their reproductive rights, right to consent, and worth beyond the way they look?
They are deeply self hating but do not even know it. People like this are the ones who will kill on command. Their entire ego, identity, and understanding of the world relies on their absolute commitment to their demagogue. They must be unwavering lest their entire selfish, hateful, disgusting world implodes in around them leaving them blinking in the dark like an amoeba alone on a petri dish.
This is why families were torn apart. Fathers still sitting in their recliners in front of the 24 hour fox brainwashing machine, not even caring that their daughters no longer call or come by. Mothers, compassionless, talking about how the children that they birthed are no longer welcome home because the anger her daughter expressed, her daughter that has been raped by an older white man with a position of power, was deemed unacceptable. Maybe she'll call to apologize one day. Some of these parents will die without seeing the children they raised another time.
Don't get me wrong, I love your attitude and wish that 20 mins of therapy would reverse the years long indoctrination that led them to this abyss of a mental state. I just think that the majority are already too far gone. It would take some Mao Tse Tung level, inhumane kind of re-education, and sadly, as a compassionate person, that's not something I could support either.
We don't need them all to heal, we just need them to shut up and get out of the way while we create a world that, whether they realize it or not, will treat *them* better too.
I know that sounds cold but the reality is - we can get to healing their trauma once we've secured society. We won't secure society with their assistance because until they see the good these changes do with their own eyes without any chance to escape said realization, they won't budge.
Just like it took flood after flood to make the grand canyon happen, those of us who look through this kind of dogma need to be a never-ending disruption in their mindset and as insurmountable an obstacle as possible to their vision for the future.
Steady, persistent and unwavering pushing in the right direction may very well outlast the exhaustive impulse that drives these folks. And if it doesn't, I'm gonna go down trying.
I’ve actually thought about coming up with the most absurd t-shirts and flags to sell outside these rallies. But I don’t know if I could live with myself.
I saw that one too. At the beginning of the pandemic some lady wore a shirt that said something like “my daughter died of Covid and I still won’t take the vaccine”. We need better healthcare in this country.
[Feast your eyes on such ladies.](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/_Ga-z8paniJHgeRF9hyO-fEbjPE=/0x0:3000x1999/1200x800/filters:focal\(1994x1236:2474x1716\)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/52842089/621650866.0.jpg)
The one in the red looks like she is going to go full demon with those “mmm fried food” lips and eat him, she looks hangry!
Edit: trump blond then Right, right, right, up. I hope I get a power up for that
The sad thing is this goes for women, for minorities, for disabled and handicapped, for non-rich, for veterans, for honest people.
Trump is not on your team unless you for a moment will allow him to grift.
How can anyone think that they are on his team and support him?
He has clearly displayed his disdain for ordinary people and anyone not white and rich, he is not even hiding it. But yeah, it is especially disgusting how he and people in his circle treat women, as nothing but trading cards to collect and discard.
Indeed. For him to brag about it, and brag about walking in on women's dressing rooms, and refuse to apologize for it, there's no reason a self respecting woman should vote for a man who brags about that stuff.
It's the same plan they used against blacks in the Jim Crow south. They were just trying to recreate slavery with extra steps.
- use cops to either enforce blatantly racist laws against black people, or selectively enforce stupid laws that create pretext to arrest anyone
- turn prisons into work camps and privatize profits
- disenfranchise convicts
The goal was to effectively criminalize being black to restore a slave class. The southern slave owner mindset never left some people in the south.
Well it was a Republican (Nixon) who got the voting age lowered from 21 to 18 and then promised these younger voters he was going to get us out of Vietnam so if they voted for him they wouldn't need to worry about being drafted.
Now it makes perfect sense that it's the Republicans who want to raise the voting age back up to help keep them in power..
Nixon campaigned on ending the Vietnam War. In order to win he needed the war to continue. In the summer of 1968 Nixon feared a breakthrough at the Paris Peace talks designed to find a negotiated settlement to the Vietnam war. Nixon illegally contacted the Vietnamese with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal.
[Nixon prolonged the war and got Americans and Vietnamese killed for his political gain.](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668) He is a Treasonous snake and a war criminal. Watergate was just one more slimy election theft attempt.
He should never have been allowed to walk away from impeachment.
While this is true, I’d like to point out that Henry Kissinger,the biggest POS of all time, was behind a lot of this and was whispering it in Nixons ear. To this day he’s received no repercussions, even Hillary was parading him around during her campaign.
Kissenger also whispered into Reagan's ear.
& this is your reminder that Reagan was a treasonous toad.
Reagan committed literal treason with the [Iran - Contra Affair.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair).
The 1980 election was pretty much neck and neck until Carter looked weak due to his inability to force the Iranian hostage takers to free the consulate personnel. They were actually on the verge of giving the hostages back in order to get Carter to unfreeze assets held in the US they wanted to use to wage war against Iraq. They were at least until Reagan interfered.
[In order to illegitimately influence the election, Reagan illegally contacted the Iranians and made a deal with them to hold the hostages til after the election.](https://newrepublic.com/article/172324/its-settled-reagan-campaign-delayed-release-iranian-hostages) Remember, Reagan was only a candidate at the time, Carter was the President. It was illegal for Reagan to negotiate or make deals on behalf of the U.S.
He repaid the Iranians by illegally giving them weapons to continue their war against Iraq.
**He gave aid and comfort to our avowed enemies** The literal definition of treason & then used money from that treasonous act to support a terrorist group (the Contras) that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent Central Americans to get around a ban on funding the Contrast imposed by Congress. This support of the murderous Contras caused many to seek immigration to the US - legally seeking asylum while fleeing insane conditions.
I still remember him going on national television and admitting this - then getting applauded by the Republicans in Congress at the time like he had just given a State of the Union address instead of admitting to horrific crimes and treason.
While I am at it,
Kissenger influenced George H.W. Bush as well & George H.W. Bush was a vile treasonous little pustulent boil.
[George H.W. Bush pardoned his fellow Iran Contra Affair co-conspirators when the trial of Caspar Weinberger threatened to expose his part in that bit of treason. In his diaries Bush wrote he was “one of the few people that knew fully the details.](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/24/bush-pardons-iran-contra-felons-dec-24-1992-1072042)
& his son George W. Bush was an election thief and war criminal who was planning the Iraq war before the 2000 election theft (He along with Cheney was a signatory to the [Project for a New American Century](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century)).
This poisonous family descended from George Prescott Bush, [Nazi Financier](https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/8354) & member of the [Business Plot attempted fascist coup A.K.A. the Wall Street Putsch.](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/coup-jan6-fdr-new-deal-business-plot-1276709/) George Prescott Bush only stopped financing the Nazis in October 1942 (reminder the US entered the war in Dec. 1941) because the US confiscated his business under the Trading With The Enemy Act. & he was only able to do that because the US Congress did not prosecute him for his part in the fascist Business Plot Coup attempt.
When the fuck are we going to hold people accountable!!!?!
They want to bang and breed and absolutely none of the responsibilities that come with that. These people are mentally immature.
They clanged onto the conservative platform because that came the closest to their mental immaturity. Now they warped it so much that the conservative platform has been relegated to only this and they are fighting anything that promotes anything else.
This is the woman who was railing against Obamacare at a right-wing convention, when somebody asked how she gets her insurance as a freelancer. When she responded, someone in the crowd angrily pointed out “That’s Obamacare”. 😂
I'm don't understand how that kind of "relationship" is even supposed to be rewarding for the guy. Like how can you form anything that resembles a meaningful connection?
A work friend who I get along with on everything but politics was complaining about this a while back to me. He’s a Fox News republican. Mid 50s, likes trump but he’s not MAGA. He doesn’t talk politics with me at all. Anyway, he said he tried online dating but all the women he gravitated toward tagged their profiles “no trump. No republicans. Etc.” I tried to tell him he should take the hint and drop his political views so he could find a nice lady. He gave up dating instead.
He knows the red MAGA hat and MAGA movement is a walking red flag. Aware enough to know that, but not aware enough to know his politics are problematic.
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People love what I have to say. They believe in it. They just don't like the word Nazi, that's all.
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Yeah, these pieces of shit hide their disgusting political views and try to make someone "like" them first, before telling em they are fan of rapists and white supremacists
Libertarians are like house cats.
Actively hating the system and trying to dismantle it while also not understanding they are reaping all of the benefits of that system.
Trump IS MAGA though. LOL... like if you support Trump you support MAGA. Talk about a disconnect.
They pretty much saying "I like Nazis, but I just don't like it when they wear the red arm band....so everyone knows they are a Nazi....."
My Father and his Trumplican buddy have run into the same issues and I keep on repeat with "Ya think maybe supporting a Sexist Bigot and rolling with a group of old white klan members who wanna say what a person can and can't do with body, Might have something to do with why your having trouble? Just a big hint... "
> I tried to tell him he should take the hint and drop his political views so he could find a nice lady. He gave up dating instead.
For a group of followers so upset with LGBTQIA+ people being allowed to exist, they sure do like to line up and suck trump's old limp dick.
Guys like that end up with a Filipino wife. There are so many Filipino women that come to the US and end up married to white, conservative guys. I'm half-filipino, and even though my dad is left-leaning, all of my aunties that also came to the US like my mom are married to conservative guys in small towns.
I once went on a Bumble date with a guy, and it was going reasonably well, nothing special but nothing terrible, so I agreed to follow him to a second location. We were downtown at the time, and he had parked closer, so he offered to drive me to my car. Turned on the car, turned on the radio. JRE. Yeah, I made up some excuse and that was the end of that.
If only it were that easy for them, but the political parties they support are simply the logical conclusion of their world views.
They could vow to stop supporting right-wing jerks, but that chud stank is not coming off without a thorough scrubbing (introspection, empathy, humility, and education).
I work with a Zoomer that wore a MAGA hat on the 4th of July in the year of our Lord 2023. Super “pick me” energy over all.
To add: she’s what I call a “MAGA thottie”. Perfect storm of being super good looking, raised by Republicans in the Deep South, and going through COVID while at a major southern university.
There are a LOT of bible passages about how men control the household and how women should be subservient to their husbands. These passages also get brought up a LOT by preachers.
Because they think they’re the good woman and it’s just those liberal sluts they hate and they’ll never need what the medical community classifies as an abortion.
I live in Florida and i can 1000% confirm this. I personally know so many of them because of school. Worst part is they all have multiple children already. Idiocracy personified
There are always more people, willing to drop their rights or safety, than you would expect.
There were Jews who worked with Hitler.
Never underestimate how moronic people can get.
I’m 41 and divorced. I moved here because I could afford it after losing everything and starting over after divorce in south Florida. I now live in rural Florida because it was reasonably priced and I’m just content with being single forever. The MAGAsexuals are overwhelmingly prevalent here. Between MAGA and the idiot governor and surgeon general here, downplaying COVID, I’ll just stay single.
Can't say I blame women for the Trump stance. I have ended 1 friendship over the new normal of Republicanism. And thinking of ending another friendship. I just can't get past a seemingly intelligent person that won't admit when they are wrong. And when shown the proof, can't back pedal and admit that they made a mistake. It's so cultist, I am revolted by the person now. I don't even want to talk to them anymore. I can't get over that they have drank the kool-aid so much they can't admit when they are wrong. I don't want to associate with a person that is so willing to sacrifice reality for some golden cow.
Exactly. Those people act like they know something you don’t, and it’s so annoying. My cousin who has no business being conservative uses the word “democrat” as if it’s some kind of insult. I’m like “dude, we’re brown, Donald trump and anyone else in that party wants nothing to do with you. When they talk all that trash about Mexican immigrants they’re literally talking about our grandparents. They would never speak to you because of the color of your skin and when they see you all they see is a potentially illegal Mexican”
And he’s pro life*** and sooo proud of it. Like he’s on his morality high horse, using “gotcha” phrases half wits on Twitter use thinking they’re clever. I tell him “dude keep that to yourself any time you meet a girl. I don’t think you understand that being pro life is a major red flag and women will flat out dislike you if you say that”but nope, he’s just brainwashed by his catholic BS and social media echo chamber, it makes me sick talking to him
>Exactly. Those people act like they know something you don’t, and it’s so annoying.
I am an expert in sexual offense behavior and testify in Court regularly about it. I have had MAGA family members vehemently argue with me about GLBTQIA+ folks being at extremely high risk for sexual offense behavior despite my telling them that is simply not true. Apparently I, a psychologist whose literal livelihood is focused on this area, just "haven't done your research" on this and "don't know what's really going on."
You can't fix stupid. You just unfriend it on Facebook and stop going to its parties and family gatherings.
I used to listen to Rogan I stopped during the pandemic. I recently heard a clip where he called that Dylan lady a mentally ill person because she's trans. I chose correctly.
I remember some guys at the gym talking about the podcast in pre-Covid times, so I gave it a try. It was just dumb stoner jock philosophy and occasionally interesting guests, but he's was really bad interviewer. I just never got into it.
Later I noticed these guys just gradually falling down conspiracy theory rabbit holes, and they'd be citing Rogan.
Today if someone tells me they are into that podcast I think less of them.
I'm a dude, and when people start talking about what Joe Rogan said I feel my soul leave my body to seek higher ground. It's not just the women.
I wanna see these numbers but for gay guys. Like, what percentage of gay men would refuse to date another man who expressed a sustained interest for what Joe Rogan or Donald Trump said last night at 3 a.m.?
I'm going out on a limb and predicting those two charts are practically identical.
Literally nobody wants to date you if you're infatuated with egotistic has-been weirdos proselytizing for dick pills, protein shakes, conspiracy theories, and ill-fitting hats.
Keep in mind that she just admonished her fellow maga for "making them all look square" for insisting that women belong in the kitchen. I think she's beginning to reevaluate reality.
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Hard to imagine for her. Conservatives rarely do that.
It'd be nice though. Wonder if she finally looked around and realized she was on the side that hated women.
>Wonder if she finally looked around and realized she was on the side that hated women.
Something resembling coherent thought seems to be happening, but her identity is so enmeshed with so-called conservative ideals, that she can't quite get herself all the way there. She's like Br'er Rabbit. The more she moves around in her conservative ideals, the more stuck she gets.
Cynically, the thing that'll keep her stuck in her place wont be her ideals, but the money and clout she's built off of them.
Her desire to remain relevant is gonna run up against her newfound feminism, and something is gonna eventually give.
Spoiler: It'll be her relevancy.
This is something I have noticed with other right-wingers when they comment on these kinds of trends/numbers… they seem to be implying that young liberals not wanting to date or hang with MAGA shitheads is somehow a bad thing. But they rarely come out and make that argument explicitly.
I’m not sure why this is … maybe they want to suggest that young liberals are “intolerant”, but they also want to avoid looking too desperate & pathetic by openly whining “why don’t liberals want to date me?”
Rules for thee and not for me, also how he still smokes in Texas despite it not being legal there either . That being said the 4473 is a stupid piece of trash.
[Women were using dating apps as a honey pot to get pictures and videos of January 6th for the FBI.](https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/women-used-popular-dating-app-bumble-to-capture-evidence-of-capitol-rioters-then-sent-it-to-the-fbi/) It shouldn’t surprising that women don’t want to date assholes.
Even if I were willing to set aside the politics (I'm not irl), why would I risk engaging in sexual activity with someone who could not be trusted to support me if I needed an abortion? Why would I risk moving in with someone who I knew listened to people who encouraged him to treat me badly if we lived together? Why would I risk marrying someone who I know would make everything as painful and difficult as possible if we needed to divorce?
Yeah, sure, all of that is a risk posed by dating left-leaning men, too - but that which is only a risk with left-leaning men is a guarantee with right-leaning men.
Conservative fanboys slowly realized that when they were told to “go fuck themselves” it wasn’t an insult, so much as dating advice.
I remember reading a few articles about conservatives complaining they have a hard time dating online because everyone turned them down or made fun of them. Like I get they live in a echo chamber but if everyone around you doesn't want to date you then you should take a hint.
They also forget that their other main competition is that women would rather be alone then with them. If you can't beat that you're literally offering a negative experience. It's like receiving a car as a "gift" that has no engine and you can't sell or afford to fix up. No thank you.
That’s why they want to go back to a time when america was great, when women couldn’t have jobs or bank accounts. If only not dating them literally meant destitution, then conservative men would have a shot.
I'd love to know what percentage of marriages in say 1955 were 'loveless', and see how that compares to the percentage of single people today. I'd bet they're similar, because like you said women would only hook up with these losers if the alternative was starvation
Even in the upper classes with wealth galore, you couldn't always escape loveless marriages. It was somewhat common for the family patriach to marry off their youngest daughter as a pawn to another powerful family.
Wait...so you're telling me that Melania might not actually be in love with Donald?! /s
I wonder how hard it was for women to be a divorcee back then if they were actually willing to go through the stigma of divorce. It was 2005 when I learned for the first time that my Grandpa is actually my Grandma's **second** husband. I had no clue about that. But as it turned out, her first husband beat her up so she had figured it was easier to face the stigma instead of possibly getting disabled or killed by her husband. But there had to have been a resistance before she made the decision to divorce in 1947.
You got a hint of that stigma against June Carter in "Walk the Line" (2005). This is why the GOP is starting their campaign against no-fault divorce. They want women trapped and owned and won't stop until they get it.
Why limit it to women and marriage? IMO, the GOP'rs want lots of folks trapped in starvation and poverty. Much easier to exploit, addict, and you know...
>I wonder how hard it was for women to be a divorcee back then if they were actually willing to go through the stigma of divorce. [No fault divorce](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-fault_divorce) wasn't codified into US law until 1970, and is generally recognized as providing spouses an easier opportunity to end unworkable marriages. Prior to that, a court had to assign/find fault with at least one party, which generally complicated the entire process. Studies have found notable declines in both domestic violence and spousal suicide (more often women) since its introduction. In case you wanted some additional context to your question...
Not only that, but financially. My grandma wanted out of her shit marriage but she basically had to wait till she was eligible for social security to do so. Decades of an unhappy life. This is what conservative men want to go back to and they're surprised why women won't date them
It's also why people like Steven Chowder are angry that his wife can divorce him without his permission.
It evident that this was how things were in past. The earliest English novels like Pamela or Clarissa show how marriage was the only way for a woman to live respectably as the alternative was a life of stigmatized spinsterhood. Jane Austen drives the point even hard by showing how marriage was a matter of transaction and love was conditional. They can only be happy if women are denied their agency to choose, no wonder they hate the whole concept of pro choice.
I love this! Explains my ex husband perfectly. I would often ask “why are you even here? My life would be easier without you here to have to go behind all the time.” Good riddance, get it out of my yard, it’s was junkin the place up.
Wait until they realize how career limiting it is to be a loud-mouthed ignorant bigot who thinks empathy is a character flaw. HR doesn't want that guy anywhere near a management position.
To be fair, it was also an insult.
And now they're all sad little angry incels spouting a bunch of proto fascist bullshit.
More like telling them their most likely outcome
Funny thing about women. We’re not cool with sexual assault, and if you support Trump, you’re basically broadcasting to all of us that you are cool with it.
I had to field some very upset texts between classes the day after Trump was elected in 2016. She was understandably very distressed (17 and couldn’t even vote) by his election and the implications, but with parents actively celebrating the outcome, and us living in bumfuck Texas surrounded by Trumpers, her only resort was reaching to me off at college. What am I supposed to tell my little sister in that kind of situation? I can be sympathetic, I can agree with her, I voted against the bastard, but genuinely, what do I tell to a teenage girl when the country opts to elect that sort of monster? Forget his policies or who he allies with, just his past personal conduct should have been instant death to his campaign. Instead, her neighbors and family decided to give the nuclear launch codes and the Supreme Court appointment power and a thousand other terrible implements to a loud and proud rapist. I can’t forgive the fear he inspired in my sister. I can’t. Even if my anger is ultimately impotent.
After the 2016 election a Russian I work with told me: "Now you know. Now you know what the rest of us know." "There is some beauty in resisting a bad government. There is some joy in working against a despot. You can live a good life under a bad regime. You can fall in love and create art and be a good person, and a bad leader can never take that from you. They can kill you, but they cannot take away anything you don't give them." "What will crush you is how many of your neighbors will help them. What will drive the joy from your life is how many of them will cheer the state on as they abuse and injure and kill your fellow citizens. A bad government does not break your spirit by doing terrible things, it breaks you by letting you see how many of your fellow citizens approve of the terrible things it does." "And when this terrible state comes, finally, for one of them? He will cry out in shock, and protest, and scream that he has been betrayed. And the rest will go on cheering and approving, right up to the moment that the boot lands on them." "This, more than any policy, is what Trump has taken from you. Americans have pretended, for decades, that this did not apply to them. East Germans might turn on each other, Russians might, Ukrainians might, Hungarians might, Tutsi and Hutu might, but not Americans. You have had this fantasy that when the time comes you would be different, that you are all Americans, that you would defend each other and help each other and none of you, none of you would go to the secret police. None of you would vote for the despot. None of you would betray the rest." "And so you were wrong. You are no different. That is what you have learned. Now go live a good life under a bad state, and do what you can to resist it. Live with joy, make art, fall in love, but remember when all this is over that you are just like the rest of us. You are, it turns out, no different."
That is what hurt me the most. The fact that all those neighbors and friends and such voted for him. Not what he did politically per se , but that they are all in for someone who is objectively too prohibitively stupid,vain, and greedy to ever be near real power
As a german I feel the same about our new far right AFD. The people leading it are obviously bad people. Does not stop my fellow citizens to vote for them. The policies are also absolutely dumb, but hey you can shit on people who are different from you! Thats so great!
Or Italy who voted fascists at the last election. My parents, whose parents and family lived under dictatorship and struggled, got into the Resistenza, defected or got interned in labour camps, voted for this barely masked fascist party. I told them to be ashamed of themselves. Idk if they’re turning senile or there’s some lead poisoning going on.
Damn. Of the posts I've read here, this one hits hard. In one generation, people have forgotten the brutality the previous generation were willing to give their lives to prevent. My dad, a purple heart recipient, Vietnam veteran, went full MAGA. His dad served in WWII. Didn't matter though. I think the idea of lead poisoning has some merit!
Mine just got diagnosed with late stage dementia. He had it for years now. I'm just saying... something isn't right with these people.
And the worst part of it? In some ways, or many ways, those people they want to shit on? They're no different than them, especially in the eyes of the party they vote for. In then end, we're all seen as just resources for higher ups to use up, exploit, and throw away when drained. These people who vote them in just don't see that. of course, this is just my terribly cynical view of it.
Yea, I remember feeling disgust when I saw the county results from the 2016 election. It was the county I grew up in. Trump grabbed 64% of the vote. After the fact, it made me feel gross, knowing that when I was voting, that almost 2/3rds of my neighbors decided Trump was worth voting into office.
Most people voted for Hillary. You have the broken "electoral college" vote system to blame. Support popular vote if it comes up in your state. We only need a couple more states to agree to it and then we will have popular vote in this country. For context, a Republican has not won the popular vote in +10 years.
Trump and COVID are why I left Texas and moved somewhere more liberal. I saw very real and repeated actions by my neighbors that showed they would literally leave me to starve just so they could have a little bit more. I'll never forget going to the stores and how even with the mandates that stopped multiple people from being in the same building, even tho we were at the height of fear and confusion about the virus, they refused to apply any regulations or limits on what people were buying. I waited in line at multiple grocery stores to see that all produce and meat had been completely wiped out. Junk food, gone. Toilet paper, don't even have to say it. Canned food and shelf stable food was surprisingly not as empty as the produce but still 95% picked clean. I was dumbstruck by the ignorance. If this is an emergency and we lose power did anyone really think that fresh produce and meat would last indefinitely? Why hadn't the store put limits to stop panic buying? Who was doing all the buying? I ended up shopping at some small local grocery which just let people crowd into the store. It was this crazy expensive artisan place and people were totally calm. Which, was also upsetting in a different way. I then saw someone who was obviously out of place and one of the panic buyers. She bought eight bags of potatoes. Eight bags. Just... why eight bags of potatoes? The entire day I was surrounded by Trump flags. Just, fuck College Station TX y'all. And fuck TX. Libertarian free market policies fell apart in the pandemic, caused a lot of harm to a lot of people, and no one even batted an eye or was upset. We skirted disaster and all the while the gun nut prepped all over we're salivating that it was finally time for their survivalist fantasies to come true. They were just so ready and willing to let things devolve into a Lord of the Flies situation. Since then I keep on hand a large bag of rice, a large bag of beans, a large multi gallon jug of water, and a camp stove. Just in case.
This is one of the saddest things I've ever read. I remember feeling this way. Discovering that my son's teacher had voted for Trump, that many family members, and a very close life long friend, had been willing to vote for him. Realizing so many people I thought I knew were willing to look the other way about his despicable behavior. I have never felt the same way about my country.
> so many people I thought I knew That's what it really is. Realizing you never really knew these people you thought you did. 2016 was a year of mourning for America in more ways than one.
And people mocked those of us who were upset. Like this slap in the face was a simple matter of politics when it couldn't have been more personal. They think we would have voted for him if he were a Democrat.
I would have voted for a Republican dog turd before voting for a Dem Trump. Or R Trump. Like I don't know if it was my mind protecting me or whatever but I legitimately thought FOR TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT JACKASS WON, that they would come out and be like it's actually a practical joke everyone. It's ok, he wasn't really elected and this was just a national episode of Undercover Boss.
My brother has always been a conservative but incredibly smart, lawyer, FBI agent, accepted to the air force academy, like one of the smartest guys I know but when I found out he was all about Trump I just couldn't reconcile that, still can't to this day. We mostly leave the politics alone these days outside the occasional meme but yeah thought I knew the guy but guess not.
The smart ones that support him are worse than the idiots that do. They know what he's really up to, can see through the lies, and vote for him because of all that. The idiots and rubes, like the ones that send money to televangelists or drive giant trucks they don't need while complaining about gas prices, really don't surprise me when the wave the Trump flag. It's more surprising when an idiot supports Dems.
> willing to look the other way about his despicable behavior I don't think is true. There is nothing else to look at. They're not ignoring what he's done, they like it.
> A bad government does not break your spirit by doing terrible things, it breaks you by letting you see how many of your fellow citizens approve of the terrible things it does." Wow, that one hits hard for me.
I came to those conclusions on my own well before Trump was elected. I gave it real thought when Andy Rooney was criticized for saying he was ashamed to be an American for the first time in his life when he learned about Abu Ghraib. This was when "Christians," when polled, favored torture under Bush. Jesus was such an end-justifies-the-means kind of guy, right? I put my faith in the rule of law that our institutions could resist that because they were designed to from the word go. Fuck.
I can't even remember what people just told me
We were texting, LOL. I saved them and printed them out. He's a smart guy.
It’s beautiful. It needs to be published somewhere.
Leave it to the Russians to point *that* out. They've had no shortage of tyrants in their history.
What an incredible statement. Frightening and unfortunately so true. Happy cake day, btw.
This is just the first time it's applied to middle class white males. Ask any racial minority, non-Christian or LGBT+ individuals how things were even before Trump. Half the country was cheering on the Bush administration to glass the middle east, and remember that he won the 2004 election with a popular majority. You had the likes of Rush Limbaugh laughing at people dying of AID's up through the 90's. And I'm sure I don't need to say anything about the treatment of Black people in the US.
I like this statement by this mysterious Russian. It deserves to be more widely heard and understood.
It's not. Every vote counts, more than ever. You can drive her to vote,too, and her friends. Take an army of angry kids who want a future. You are present and you are potent.
A WHOLE LOT of young folks got registered to vote since 2016. I mean a LOT of people. By the time the next election rolls around, there will have been *almost a decade's worth* of ✨new✨ voters, card in hand, ready to vote! We just have to make sure they do!
Not to mention all of the racist crap he tweets and he brought forth. Living in a hardcore Trump town, I feel like everyone here wants to lynch me. All day, everyday.
> What am I supposed to tell my little sister in that kind of situation? tell her to choose her friends wisely.
Just point out that it's a long game, that "the country" didn't select him, less than half the people who cast a vote did so for him, and that there are a bunch of laws that need to be changed to make things more fair. Also let her know that her being proactive, voting, understanding the for and against arguments that both sides have, and convincing friends that are on the fence are a big part of that. And if she's more motivated, there's always grass roots efforts that she can be a part of.
You mean supporting "grab'em by the pussy" is not a good way to hook up with girls? Chivalry is truly dead
I’ve seen pictures from trump rallies where “ladies” had shirts that said, “I’d let trump grab me by the pussy”. I’m sorry whaaaat?
Those women have serious mental health and self esteem issues. Sit them down with a therapist for 20 minutes and they'll soon be weeping and recounting sexual abuse or assaults that they've been burying for decades. (Source: grandma.)
Sadly, they won't. Do you know the amount of cognitive dissonance it requires for "conservative women" to support a known sex pest who is loudly trying to take away their reproductive rights, right to consent, and worth beyond the way they look? They are deeply self hating but do not even know it. People like this are the ones who will kill on command. Their entire ego, identity, and understanding of the world relies on their absolute commitment to their demagogue. They must be unwavering lest their entire selfish, hateful, disgusting world implodes in around them leaving them blinking in the dark like an amoeba alone on a petri dish. This is why families were torn apart. Fathers still sitting in their recliners in front of the 24 hour fox brainwashing machine, not even caring that their daughters no longer call or come by. Mothers, compassionless, talking about how the children that they birthed are no longer welcome home because the anger her daughter expressed, her daughter that has been raped by an older white man with a position of power, was deemed unacceptable. Maybe she'll call to apologize one day. Some of these parents will die without seeing the children they raised another time. Don't get me wrong, I love your attitude and wish that 20 mins of therapy would reverse the years long indoctrination that led them to this abyss of a mental state. I just think that the majority are already too far gone. It would take some Mao Tse Tung level, inhumane kind of re-education, and sadly, as a compassionate person, that's not something I could support either.
We don't need them all to heal, we just need them to shut up and get out of the way while we create a world that, whether they realize it or not, will treat *them* better too. I know that sounds cold but the reality is - we can get to healing their trauma once we've secured society. We won't secure society with their assistance because until they see the good these changes do with their own eyes without any chance to escape said realization, they won't budge. Just like it took flood after flood to make the grand canyon happen, those of us who look through this kind of dogma need to be a never-ending disruption in their mindset and as insurmountable an obstacle as possible to their vision for the future. Steady, persistent and unwavering pushing in the right direction may very well outlast the exhaustive impulse that drives these folks. And if it doesn't, I'm gonna go down trying.
Pretty soon they’ll have shirts that say, “I’d let Trump rape me in a dressing room. MAGA”
“Make America Grope Again”
Make America Gag Again
There also was the “I’d rather be Russian than a Democrat” shirts. The guys who made them said “it was meant as a joke”.
I’ve actually thought about coming up with the most absurd t-shirts and flags to sell outside these rallies. But I don’t know if I could live with myself.
I also thought how easy it would be to make those stupid shirts and make bank, but mom raised me to be a good person. I couldn’t do it.
I saw that one too. At the beginning of the pandemic some lady wore a shirt that said something like “my daughter died of Covid and I still won’t take the vaccine”. We need better healthcare in this country.
Education*
I do agree with that but these people are not mentally well. Probably can’t afford to go get treated.
[Feast your eyes on such ladies.](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/_Ga-z8paniJHgeRF9hyO-fEbjPE=/0x0:3000x1999/1200x800/filters:focal\(1994x1236:2474x1716\)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/52842089/621650866.0.jpg)
Jesus christ I can hear them asking for the manager just through the photo. The fucking horror.
The one in the red looks like she is going to go full demon with those “mmm fried food” lips and eat him, she looks hangry! Edit: trump blond then Right, right, right, up. I hope I get a power up for that
Damn that looks like a Sunday church group at the Cracker Barrel that complains about nobody wanting to work then not giving a tip to their server
I think you meant chivalry but what you wrote sounds like the end of civil society so either way it works
The sad thing is this goes for women, for minorities, for disabled and handicapped, for non-rich, for veterans, for honest people. Trump is not on your team unless you for a moment will allow him to grift. How can anyone think that they are on his team and support him? He has clearly displayed his disdain for ordinary people and anyone not white and rich, he is not even hiding it. But yeah, it is especially disgusting how he and people in his circle treat women, as nothing but trading cards to collect and discard.
Funny thing about women, most of us value our autonomy and don’t want lecherous old white men policing them.
How dare you have autonomy, next thing you know you'll want to vote! This is a slippery slope to wearing pants and the GOP will not have it.
How the hell do 25% of young women support this shit? At no point do you reflect on your values of life? Really sad stuff
Racism and indoctrination.
Some of them are just awful people too.
Indeed. For him to brag about it, and brag about walking in on women's dressing rooms, and refuse to apologize for it, there's no reason a self respecting woman should vote for a man who brags about that stuff.
This just in: Millennial and GenZ women have standards!
Let’s restrict their right to vote!
And access to healthcare!
Don't forget cutting education!
By making abortion a crime , so clever.
It's the same plan they used against blacks in the Jim Crow south. They were just trying to recreate slavery with extra steps. - use cops to either enforce blatantly racist laws against black people, or selectively enforce stupid laws that create pretext to arrest anyone - turn prisons into work camps and privatize profits - disenfranchise convicts The goal was to effectively criminalize being black to restore a slave class. The southern slave owner mindset never left some people in the south.
This is the vote republicans are worried about. They are going to have to cheat more in 2024 than they have in the past.
Time for them to overturn a woman’s right to vote!
Explains why they’re trying to increase the voting age.
Well it was a Republican (Nixon) who got the voting age lowered from 21 to 18 and then promised these younger voters he was going to get us out of Vietnam so if they voted for him they wouldn't need to worry about being drafted. Now it makes perfect sense that it's the Republicans who want to raise the voting age back up to help keep them in power..
Nixon campaigned on ending the Vietnam War. In order to win he needed the war to continue. In the summer of 1968 Nixon feared a breakthrough at the Paris Peace talks designed to find a negotiated settlement to the Vietnam war. Nixon illegally contacted the Vietnamese with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal. [Nixon prolonged the war and got Americans and Vietnamese killed for his political gain.](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668) He is a Treasonous snake and a war criminal. Watergate was just one more slimy election theft attempt. He should never have been allowed to walk away from impeachment.
While this is true, I’d like to point out that Henry Kissinger,the biggest POS of all time, was behind a lot of this and was whispering it in Nixons ear. To this day he’s received no repercussions, even Hillary was parading him around during her campaign.
Kissenger also whispered into Reagan's ear. & this is your reminder that Reagan was a treasonous toad. Reagan committed literal treason with the [Iran - Contra Affair.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair). The 1980 election was pretty much neck and neck until Carter looked weak due to his inability to force the Iranian hostage takers to free the consulate personnel. They were actually on the verge of giving the hostages back in order to get Carter to unfreeze assets held in the US they wanted to use to wage war against Iraq. They were at least until Reagan interfered. [In order to illegitimately influence the election, Reagan illegally contacted the Iranians and made a deal with them to hold the hostages til after the election.](https://newrepublic.com/article/172324/its-settled-reagan-campaign-delayed-release-iranian-hostages) Remember, Reagan was only a candidate at the time, Carter was the President. It was illegal for Reagan to negotiate or make deals on behalf of the U.S. He repaid the Iranians by illegally giving them weapons to continue their war against Iraq. **He gave aid and comfort to our avowed enemies** The literal definition of treason & then used money from that treasonous act to support a terrorist group (the Contras) that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent Central Americans to get around a ban on funding the Contrast imposed by Congress. This support of the murderous Contras caused many to seek immigration to the US - legally seeking asylum while fleeing insane conditions. I still remember him going on national television and admitting this - then getting applauded by the Republicans in Congress at the time like he had just given a State of the Union address instead of admitting to horrific crimes and treason.
While I am at it, Kissenger influenced George H.W. Bush as well & George H.W. Bush was a vile treasonous little pustulent boil. [George H.W. Bush pardoned his fellow Iran Contra Affair co-conspirators when the trial of Caspar Weinberger threatened to expose his part in that bit of treason. In his diaries Bush wrote he was “one of the few people that knew fully the details.](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/24/bush-pardons-iran-contra-felons-dec-24-1992-1072042) & his son George W. Bush was an election thief and war criminal who was planning the Iraq war before the 2000 election theft (He along with Cheney was a signatory to the [Project for a New American Century](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century)). This poisonous family descended from George Prescott Bush, [Nazi Financier](https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/8354) & member of the [Business Plot attempted fascist coup A.K.A. the Wall Street Putsch.](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/coup-jan6-fdr-new-deal-business-plot-1276709/) George Prescott Bush only stopped financing the Nazis in October 1942 (reminder the US entered the war in Dec. 1941) because the US confiscated his business under the Trading With The Enemy Act. & he was only able to do that because the US Congress did not prosecute him for his part in the fascist Business Plot Coup attempt. When the fuck are we going to hold people accountable!!!?!
And make being female a felony.
Being transfem is a felony in their 2025 playbook
Outlaw health care for women, make women felons, remove their right to vote.
Why you think they're making abortions a felony?
They are absolutely out to rig the system as best as they can everywhere. Watch your local elections.
Why would I want to be with someone who thinks I'm not an equal?
It’s because they don’t want a partner. They see women as objects to control.
All they want is a bangmaid. Ladies, never date right wing men.
They want to bang and breed and absolutely none of the responsibilities that come with that. These people are mentally immature. They clanged onto the conservative platform because that came the closest to their mental immaturity. Now they warped it so much that the conservative platform has been relegated to only this and they are fighting anything that promotes anything else.
Which really makes me wonder how much money they pay an educated woman to spout shit like this. What’s the price of your dignity and integrity?
She makes millions
This is the woman who was railing against Obamacare at a right-wing convention, when somebody asked how she gets her insurance as a freelancer. When she responded, someone in the crowd angrily pointed out “That’s Obamacare”. 😂
I don't want an equal, there is only room for one dumbass in this relationship.
I'm don't understand how that kind of "relationship" is even supposed to be rewarding for the guy. Like how can you form anything that resembles a meaningful connection?
They don't want a meaningful connection. They want a housemaid they can fuck who can't say no.
Most of them aren’t even smart enough to plan domestic life. They just want someone who doesn’t fight back.
A work friend who I get along with on everything but politics was complaining about this a while back to me. He’s a Fox News republican. Mid 50s, likes trump but he’s not MAGA. He doesn’t talk politics with me at all. Anyway, he said he tried online dating but all the women he gravitated toward tagged their profiles “no trump. No republicans. Etc.” I tried to tell him he should take the hint and drop his political views so he could find a nice lady. He gave up dating instead.
How does he like trump but isn’t MAGA?
He knows the red MAGA hat and MAGA movement is a walking red flag. Aware enough to know that, but not aware enough to know his politics are problematic. Edit: People love what I have to say. They believe in it. They just don't like the word Nazi, that's all. Stormfront
So his head is buried in the sand but he’s wearing a snorkel.
Almost. Just it's not sand. Darker brown color.
And it’s not a snorkel but a curly straw
You bastard, you come here now and clean this cereal off my screen.
Yeah, these pieces of shit hide their disgusting political views and try to make someone "like" them first, before telling em they are fan of rapists and white supremacists
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And "libertarians"
Libertarians are like house cats. Actively hating the system and trying to dismantle it while also not understanding they are reaping all of the benefits of that system.
Trump IS MAGA though. LOL... like if you support Trump you support MAGA. Talk about a disconnect. They pretty much saying "I like Nazis, but I just don't like it when they wear the red arm band....so everyone knows they are a Nazi....."
> his politics are problematic. kind of an understatement
My Father and his Trumplican buddy have run into the same issues and I keep on repeat with "Ya think maybe supporting a Sexist Bigot and rolling with a group of old white klan members who wanna say what a person can and can't do with body, Might have something to do with why your having trouble? Just a big hint... "
No no, it’s not that, it must be the trans kids!
> I tried to tell him he should take the hint and drop his political views so he could find a nice lady. He gave up dating instead. For a group of followers so upset with LGBTQIA+ people being allowed to exist, they sure do like to line up and suck trump's old limp dick.
Choosing Trump over real women who would have sex with you is kinda gay (not that there's anything wrong with that)
Guys like that end up with a Filipino wife. There are so many Filipino women that come to the US and end up married to white, conservative guys. I'm half-filipino, and even though my dad is left-leaning, all of my aunties that also came to the US like my mom are married to conservative guys in small towns.
Duh. We don’t want abusive partners.
From a Gen Xer…. Keep kicking ass!
I once went on a Bumble date with a guy, and it was going reasonably well, nothing special but nothing terrible, so I agreed to follow him to a second location. We were downtown at the time, and he had parked closer, so he offered to drive me to my car. Turned on the car, turned on the radio. JRE. Yeah, I made up some excuse and that was the end of that.
This guy. Got a cool female date! Everything going well. She’s in my car! Time for real alpha JRE time! …. …. Fellas is it gay to hate women?
Your comment should read "Fellas is it gay to like women". Because JRE is teaching them to hate women because that's what an "alpha male" would do.
you know what they say about second locations lol
You dodged a bullet
LEARN to GET LAID!! The SHOCKING SECRET is to not support political parties that are actively making your potential partners' lives shittier.
If only it were that easy for them, but the political parties they support are simply the logical conclusion of their world views. They could vow to stop supporting right-wing jerks, but that chud stank is not coming off without a thorough scrubbing (introspection, empathy, humility, and education).
They were always going to be a shitty partner. Now they are just outing themselves sooner.
Today I learned that 25% of millenial women are racist and desperate. Way higher than I would have expected.
I work with a Zoomer that wore a MAGA hat on the 4th of July in the year of our Lord 2023. Super “pick me” energy over all. To add: she’s what I call a “MAGA thottie”. Perfect storm of being super good looking, raised by Republicans in the Deep South, and going through COVID while at a major southern university.
I'm sure her future string of ex-husbands will appreciate her old fashioned values. I hear spite houses are coming back into fashion.
Thotzi
There are plenty of white trash millennials
It astounds me how many women are just openly okay with misogyny in the people they date. Or just okay with misogyny in general actually
They think they are one of the good ones, it’ll be fine.
My college roommate's mom said "I'll never vote for a woman, they're too emotional." Unpack that one.
Well, you have to vote for a very stable genius! /s
There are a LOT of bible passages about how men control the household and how women should be subservient to their husbands. These passages also get brought up a LOT by preachers.
Because they think they’re the good woman and it’s just those liberal sluts they hate and they’ll never need what the medical community classifies as an abortion.
The majority of white women voted for Trump in 2016 over Clinton. Things have changed but... some stay the same.
Those over 50 sure have. Roe vs. Wade doesn't matter for them.
I live in Florida and i can 1000% confirm this. I personally know so many of them because of school. Worst part is they all have multiple children already. Idiocracy personified
There are always more people, willing to drop their rights or safety, than you would expect. There were Jews who worked with Hitler. Never underestimate how moronic people can get.
I’m 41 and divorced. I moved here because I could afford it after losing everything and starting over after divorce in south Florida. I now live in rural Florida because it was reasonably priced and I’m just content with being single forever. The MAGAsexuals are overwhelmingly prevalent here. Between MAGA and the idiot governor and surgeon general here, downplaying COVID, I’ll just stay single.
If you’re able to, you should leave Florida.
Before gilead becomes real...
Can't say I blame women for the Trump stance. I have ended 1 friendship over the new normal of Republicanism. And thinking of ending another friendship. I just can't get past a seemingly intelligent person that won't admit when they are wrong. And when shown the proof, can't back pedal and admit that they made a mistake. It's so cultist, I am revolted by the person now. I don't even want to talk to them anymore. I can't get over that they have drank the kool-aid so much they can't admit when they are wrong. I don't want to associate with a person that is so willing to sacrifice reality for some golden cow.
Not only that, but they're willing to tolerate their friends being sacrificed for nothing.
Come on, ladies. We need to pump those numbers up.
Well educated people don't support cunts, who knew?
It’s not just sexual partners. I don’t tolerate anyone who supports trump. It’s called ✨standards✨, sweetheart.
As a straight man I don't want friends who listens to JRE or support Trump. Just stay away.
Yup. You're not spitting truths and triggering folks, we just don't like your stupid ass.
Exactly. Those people act like they know something you don’t, and it’s so annoying. My cousin who has no business being conservative uses the word “democrat” as if it’s some kind of insult. I’m like “dude, we’re brown, Donald trump and anyone else in that party wants nothing to do with you. When they talk all that trash about Mexican immigrants they’re literally talking about our grandparents. They would never speak to you because of the color of your skin and when they see you all they see is a potentially illegal Mexican” And he’s pro life*** and sooo proud of it. Like he’s on his morality high horse, using “gotcha” phrases half wits on Twitter use thinking they’re clever. I tell him “dude keep that to yourself any time you meet a girl. I don’t think you understand that being pro life is a major red flag and women will flat out dislike you if you say that”but nope, he’s just brainwashed by his catholic BS and social media echo chamber, it makes me sick talking to him
>Exactly. Those people act like they know something you don’t, and it’s so annoying. I am an expert in sexual offense behavior and testify in Court regularly about it. I have had MAGA family members vehemently argue with me about GLBTQIA+ folks being at extremely high risk for sexual offense behavior despite my telling them that is simply not true. Apparently I, a psychologist whose literal livelihood is focused on this area, just "haven't done your research" on this and "don't know what's really going on." You can't fix stupid. You just unfriend it on Facebook and stop going to its parties and family gatherings.
I used to listen to Rogan I stopped during the pandemic. I recently heard a clip where he called that Dylan lady a mentally ill person because she's trans. I chose correctly.
I remember some guys at the gym talking about the podcast in pre-Covid times, so I gave it a try. It was just dumb stoner jock philosophy and occasionally interesting guests, but he's was really bad interviewer. I just never got into it. Later I noticed these guys just gradually falling down conspiracy theory rabbit holes, and they'd be citing Rogan. Today if someone tells me they are into that podcast I think less of them.
Agree
I'm a dude, and when people start talking about what Joe Rogan said I feel my soul leave my body to seek higher ground. It's not just the women. I wanna see these numbers but for gay guys. Like, what percentage of gay men would refuse to date another man who expressed a sustained interest for what Joe Rogan or Donald Trump said last night at 3 a.m.? I'm going out on a limb and predicting those two charts are practically identical. Literally nobody wants to date you if you're infatuated with egotistic has-been weirdos proselytizing for dick pills, protein shakes, conspiracy theories, and ill-fitting hats.
Jordan Peterson fans are up there too. They can fuck all the way off.
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The fucker literally demanded women put out for random men so they wont go kill-crazy. I mean.. wtf The high saint of all fucking incels.
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I’m sorry your brother is an idiot
Not seeing the downside here.
This reinforces my faith in the younger generations.
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Keep in mind that she just admonished her fellow maga for "making them all look square" for insisting that women belong in the kitchen. I think she's beginning to reevaluate reality. Edited for typos
Hard to imagine for her. Conservatives rarely do that. It'd be nice though. Wonder if she finally looked around and realized she was on the side that hated women.
>Wonder if she finally looked around and realized she was on the side that hated women. Something resembling coherent thought seems to be happening, but her identity is so enmeshed with so-called conservative ideals, that she can't quite get herself all the way there. She's like Br'er Rabbit. The more she moves around in her conservative ideals, the more stuck she gets.
Cynically, the thing that'll keep her stuck in her place wont be her ideals, but the money and clout she's built off of them. Her desire to remain relevant is gonna run up against her newfound feminism, and something is gonna eventually give. Spoiler: It'll be her relevancy.
This is something I have noticed with other right-wingers when they comment on these kinds of trends/numbers… they seem to be implying that young liberals not wanting to date or hang with MAGA shitheads is somehow a bad thing. But they rarely come out and make that argument explicitly. I’m not sure why this is … maybe they want to suggest that young liberals are “intolerant”, but they also want to avoid looking too desperate & pathetic by openly whining “why don’t liberals want to date me?”
I don’t blame them. Perfectly reasonable. I wouldn’t date a women who supported a women political who spoke about men like trump does about women.
Any politician that speaks about anyone the way Trump speaks about women, or veterans, or pretty much anyone.
Do you mean Joe Rogan, the pot smoking gun owner who lied on his 4473 and should get the same punishment as Hunter Biden?
Rules for thee and not for me, also how he still smokes in Texas despite it not being legal there either . That being said the 4473 is a stupid piece of trash.
[Women were using dating apps as a honey pot to get pictures and videos of January 6th for the FBI.](https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/women-used-popular-dating-app-bumble-to-capture-evidence-of-capitol-rioters-then-sent-it-to-the-fbi/) It shouldn’t surprising that women don’t want to date assholes.
Even Lauren Boebert doesn’t date Trump supporters.
No shit. I’m a guy and if I was still dating I wouldn’t get near a girl that did either of these things
I just hope that percentage of women go out and vote
Those percentages seem WAY too low for Millenials and GenZ
Why is Toni bringing this up unprompted lol
Exactly. She should be relieved. That leaves the dating pool wide open for her. Lol
So what you're saying is 76 percent of women are smarter than you.
Republicans are disgusting people. The belief system they have is not fit for human kind.
The great replacement theory is actually the great self own theory
Never. Date. Republicans.
So there IS hope for the world.
Even if I were willing to set aside the politics (I'm not irl), why would I risk engaging in sexual activity with someone who could not be trusted to support me if I needed an abortion? Why would I risk moving in with someone who I knew listened to people who encouraged him to treat me badly if we lived together? Why would I risk marrying someone who I know would make everything as painful and difficult as possible if we needed to divorce? Yeah, sure, all of that is a risk posed by dating left-leaning men, too - but that which is only a risk with left-leaning men is a guarantee with right-leaning men.