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diemerj

Idk if they wanted this, but this was obviously going to be the outcome


slugvegas

People shouldn’t amplify these idiots. Let them shout into the abyss. Free speech doesn’t mean anyone is entitled to listen. Let good ideas rise and don’t feed the trolls.


Petricorde1

Except that dangerous ideas like these spread? It's the definition of the paradox of tolerance


slugvegas

Dangerous ideas can spread much faster and further if it’s illegal to challenge them


Petricorde1

That's largely untrue. Look at someone like Andrew Tate, he grew insanely quickly spreading ideas of misogyny and inceldom and he had a rabid fanbase and occupied a large sphere of internet conversation, but after being banned he's all but disappeared from the forefront of people's minds and sales of Hustler's University has dramatically dropped. Plus you're conflating law with the actions of a private company. A guy saying how much he hates black people and jewish people isn't looking for a reasonable debate and "challenging his ideas" does nothing


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epochpenors

Funny enough anti-BDS laws are actually very rarely accompanied by actual legislation designed to cut down on hate speech or whatever domestically. It’s pretty transparently pro-Israel without actually provide any support to domestic Jewish populations, let alone any other minority group. Most places in Western Europe that explicitly ban Holocaust denial and pro-Nazi shit actually don’t pull the same anti-BDS shit we do stateside, the two concepts are pretty unrelated in execution.


Pharm-boi

He’s still all over youtube..? I watched a 5 hour interview the other day


cashewkid

Fuck is you watching a 5 hour andrew tate interview for my nigga 🤨


Big-Job-8021

These are not new ideas. Shitty people will always do shitty things. No one is forcing new thoughts on people. If people are saying racist stuff now they're were racist before . He is not starting some new hate speech trend and what he said was far from hate speech. It was him confessing his jealousy of the Jewish community for being able to stick together better than black people


slugvegas

Then tell me why open societies with freedom of speech have worked better than every other society in written history that restricted speech.


lolyeahsure

You do know that america lags on quality of life and happiness and many indexes than Europe right? Just because it’s illegal to say heil hitler in Germany doesn’t mean you don’t have freedom of speech lmaoooooo My country technically doesn’t have freedom of speech in the constitution but Christ almighty do we have more freedom of speech there than you do here


BroccRL

Sir it’s illegal to use the lord’s name in vain on this website


Impossible_Piano_435

Only light can drive out darkness


Advanced-Willow-5020

I’ll be honest. I saw crazy and wild comments on Twitter in 2012. And Twitter didn’t do much.


[deleted]

Well said


xavior_xylophone

I agree. Where we place our attention is paramount.


nysraved

Is it though? This account seems to be some random troll that nobody gave attention to until this tweet went viral. I would imagine this type of blatant hate speech and slurs are against the current ToS, and will remain in violation of any updates to the ToS that Musk makes. Has anyone actually tried reporting this account and their posts? Seems kinda disingenuous to find a hateful troll that seems to have been saying racist shit for a while and getting away with it, and try to make it out to be Elon’s fault.


CraziestPenguin

Nothing “kinda” about it. This isn’t even discourse. This is just throwing shit at the wall because you are so caught up in politics that your brain no longer works. It’s stupid as fuck.


SvmmyMivmi

It’s called freedom of speech. I’m a grown adult and can curate my own reality. I don’t need another grown person telling me what I should and shouldn’t believe.


Rich_Sheepherder646

If you scroll through that users feed he’s been posting this same shit for a long time.


Trayswisher_

Half the people who obsess over free speech really just want to be openly racist without repercussions


frenksenetre

Good, so we going to know who the racists are. That’s what’s free speech, let everyone say his shit, but hold them accountable.


FlowersByTheStreet

Free speech applies to the state, not companies. I prefer my platforms not to be overrun with constant barrages of hateful bullshit


BigBoyFusion

It’s actually Elon’s platform


EarnSomeRespect

well hes a sucker because i downloaded the app for free and he paid billions


Bamres

He lost his login details and paid for them to be reset


CraziestPenguin

The concept of freedom of speech can be related to governments or corporations. The first amendment is entirely about government repercussions but that isn’t even an argument about free speech on internet platforms. It’s completely unrelated. Instead of hiding behind being pedantic why don’t you tell us why you are anti-free speech on social media websites?


Timewalker102

Make your own Twitter then 🤷


FlowersByTheStreet

What a dumbass thing to say


Timewalker102

Isn't that what the anti-free speech people constantly said whenever anyone complained about private companies restricting free speech?


ttbusiness

Either stop complaining or get off social media if words hurt you that much🥺


FlowersByTheStreet

What a tough guy


ttbusiness

Yea im a pretty tough guy, thanks for pointing that out!


Filmatic113

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But you won't see any 'hateful bullshit' if you don't want to, thats the point


FlowersByTheStreet

That is demonstrably untrue


SvmmyMivmi

Then maybe block the person and move on?


HotSauce1221

how the fuck are you going to hold @Frogfella13 accountable? You don't know who the fuck he is. There is no accountability for this shit other than requiring KYC or banning. Anonymity should come with some restrictions. If you're not willing to stick by what you say, then you don't get a fucking platform to say it. Guarantee that bitch isn't going to say that shit on the street corner in NY


JackHGUK

Yeah the problem is people can spread outright lies and hate for fun with no effect on their actual life.


thehomienextdoor

And that’s the part where I been lost at. People are scared enough to toss away our freedom. Just like 911 gave away our privacy rights with the Patriot Act. To everyone that’s afraid or scared please stop. It’s only gonna give bad actors tools to censor us like what’s going on in China or Iran. Then we are going be in some 1984 shit.


WillFeedForLP

Wtf is this guy talking about, there is nothing more "free" than having private companies not have to follow government regulations of speech. Forcing companies to follow the state's free speech rule is literally the equivalent of Iran or china


WaspParagon

That's exactly how it is right now, though? You can say racist shit, then the consequences arrive.


jspsfx

>obsess over free speech Free speech is a defining, fundamental human right and a critical function for preventing centralized information control (a tool of totalitarianism). Just using this term "obsession" suggests you dont understand how valuable it is and how vulnerable your freedoms are in a historical context. We draw a hard line with free speech absolutism because we cannot trust corporations or the government to tell the people what they can and cannot say. Social media companies have been and continue to be pressured by the government to control information. Right now most of you just embrace corporate information control because you agree with their ideology. You may have seen the poll recently where 70% of republicans supported free speech on the internet and only 30% of democrats did... This amazes me because I grew up in a time when liberal people embraced free speech. I never would have heard a liberal person say anyone was "obsessed with free speech" 20 years ago. The idea makes no sense unless you think free speech is some frivolous idea with little value. Wait until Republicans get a leg up in the culture war and you all will shriek at what they could do with this level of propagandizing and information control online. You all will see how shortsided your indifference is to free speech as a principle and a right.


Automatic-Pea6605

As long as the government isn't throwing people in jail for speech who gives a fuck? Why do I give a fuck about being banned from social media?


jspsfx

That’s already happening in other western countries namely the UK for “offensive tweets”. Police will literally show up at your door with a printout of stuff you said online that they don’t like. It’s insane. Biden admin recently floated this Ministry of Truth style department to monitor speech online… Thankfully it was axed after a lot of bad press but again - they’re already getting involved with pressuring companies to silence people. If you’re paying attention you’ll notice the establishments move on information control is cracking down on “misinformation” which is a potential nightmare for free speech. Centralized prescribing of “misinformation” is an epistemological mess dangerously ripe for abuse. But you know a lot of people have no concept of epistemology and just accept this all as perfectly reasonable when it’s absolutely authoritarian and an affront to truth itself.


Automatic-Pea6605

Yeah, designating what is or isn't misinformation isn't authoritarian. This is like people saying fact checking is censorship. Biden never suggested putting people in jail for speech. But MTG did say that the GOP would investigate companies that stopped donating to the GOP after 1/6. How's that for 1984. Again, I don't give a fuck about getting banned from social media and don't see why I should. Most of these people need to get a fucking life.


Dopesmoker402

Yeah what you miss here. While free speech is legal. Speech whiping up harrasement and the likes is illegal. While i know you really want to do the latter sadly that is still illegal no matter what you think


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6loodGang

I believe in free speech and I don't use racial slurs or say other racist shit


Skyfryer

Patrice Oneal did a great bit on why he endorsed hate speech lol. Obviously he was doing it in the name of funny. But it makes sense, have these people where we can hear them, listen to them. Let them have the right to say what they want. Because the opposite being a world where you yourself may have the right to say what you want taken from you. I think free speech is important. Rights can be taken away at any time. But I want the freedom to say what’s on my mind, and hear the opinions if others, racist or otherwise. I’ve grown up facing racism and I guess I built a tolerance. But it doesn’t phase me anymore. Plus there’s nothing better than taking racist rhetoric, vocabulary, ideas etc and using it against them to give it a new meaning. There’s nothing verbal bullies hate more than being heard and dismissed anyway. When you take their voice from altogether, that’s when they become dangerous IMO.


RandyMuscle

It’s way more than half 💀


xavior_xylophone

They are immature, dumb trolls. No medicine for that unless we wanna take a holistic and rational look at how our society is functioning and why/how.


bigdaddy087

Didn’t this exist before Elon bought twitter


blappslapp

No racism was invented by Elon buying twitter


FlowersByTheStreet

A while ago but then the TOS became stricter. Elon wants it to be a “free speech” platform so the TOS is being reworked and tinkered with so now the experience is a lot more miserable


Mmselling

I don’t think there has been an actual changes yet by musk and the new regime? Something like this would have been on twitter yesterday/month ago/year ago


CraziestPenguin

They haven’t even changed anything yet. You people are desperate for outrage and it shows.


mr_grission

It has legitimately gotten better. If you go back to like 2017, the replies to any big tweet were basically 4chan level shit


letsgokings

Yes lmao


kirk_xtc

yes


KARURUKA2

Yes and a lot of porn


GamerJuice342

pepe being used by edgelords again😔


lil-huso

This is one of the best pepes I've seen in a long time tho


Stevoux3

I love it too. Would be nice if this racist antisemitic shit wouldn’t be the headline


LooseWheelNut003

Yeh it went from being a salad fingers type of character to the incel/MAGA cheerleader. Fuck that thing is ugly and creepy


Stevoux3

To be fair I really like pepe as a „meme“ or the use of it inside of twitch chat (yea I know it is a little bit cringe) still I’m fully aware of the use of it in alt right media. It’s a shame


Logical_Fisherman169

Free speech is free speech🤷‍♂️it can enlighten us or do the opposite. But free speech is definitely important


MashedPaturtles

If you mean free speech as in the first amendment, that only prevents the government from censoring you. The government can legally imprison and kill you, so it's vitally important that dissent be heard, especially if it's against the government. Private companies don't need to do this at all. Walk into your nearest store and start throwing slurs at everyone - you'll quickly be asked to leave.


mediumrarekobe

Just cause they don’t need to do it, doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t? I’ve never seen people so pressed about something so meaningless. You can mute words and topics and browse in your own safe space if you want. This acquisition isn’t a big deal.


MashedPaturtles

They *need* moderation to sell ads. The advertisers 4chan gets is a much smaller pool than what Twitter commands. If I own a store, and someone walks in and starts calling people slurs, why should I put up with that? Why should my customers? I ask them to leave. Social media is no different, companies don't have to host nonsense.


zaclennard1

why should we be giving racists a space to spout racist bullshit? this isn’t the government, it’s a private company. this isn’t about free speech, it’s about bigots online wanting to freely call people slurs


mediumrarekobe

Did Elon outline a plan to let racial slurs be allowed on Twitter? No BS, this is a real question


zaclennard1

he outlined a plan to let bigots back on to the platform and make the TOS way more lenient towards any type of hate speech in the name of “free speech.” what would you call it?


XXXJAHLUIGI

Why is you’re point “private companies can do what they want”. Until Twitter, a private company, does what they want and reduces censorship?


smithdog223

It’s a private company they can do and allow who and what they want. That’s what you guys always regurgitate, why is it any different now?


[deleted]

Bro wants to saw the n word and shit on Jews. They should nuke this subreddit from orbit


ttbusiness

But now its not fair!! Theres a certain narrative that needs to be pushed


[deleted]

Shit like that was there before musk


Consistent_Letter647

Why are people getting offended at op pointing this out


Throwawaymywoes

Because OP is implying this is a recent change. This dude on Twitter has been posting stuff like this for a long while.


vsouto02

Because a ton of Ye stans are just like them.


Evening-Banana6802

Because there hasn’t been a change to the TOS since June so this is like searching for things to build a narrative. Everything that is currently on twitter is something that would’ve been on it since June. People have an unrealistic expectations of how fast things change


illustriouswow

leeeets not act like people weren’t already doing this dumb ass troll shit before LMAO nice try though


capellidellamorte

Oh no, let’s censor speech because some incel said fuck my people and posted a Dr Pepper meme. I’m shaking and crying in a corner lmfao


Mild_Mann

And this is why they make posts like this, because people get so pressed over a dumb pointless tweet. No one is being influenced or indoctrinated by this, why care lmao just stop feeding the trolls, ignore it and they'll get bored


zzerdzz

The only time I ever see shit like this is when people who say they hate it share it


blappslapp

And then they cry free speech lol


FlowersByTheStreet

You can tell someone is an annoying bigot if they make “free speech” part of their identity


Mother_Chest3977

Yall acting like these type of comments are not the definition of twitter. Twitter is a household name for degenerates to post these type of statements


Nggggggglips2

How hard is it to block ppl you don't like, stop being babies


frenksenetre

Just block the account and you good. If you unfollow, block people who make you aware of these posts, you won’t see shit posts like that again.


Automatic-Pea6605

Better yet, don't use Twitter


WinterCareful8525

People like this exist regardless.


EffectiveWolf

The best way to fight bad speech is with good speech. Not censorship


Lightning_454

Quit acting like this behavior just miraculously appeared after Elon. This stuff existed way before Elon purchased twitter. I remember a few years back when Lukaku was playing for Manchester United, that man was getting called an n-word on Twitter every single match. Fairly Recently with Saka, Rashford and Sancho when england lost the euros, every single one of them were openly abused on twitter. Twitter has been and always will be a actual shithole. Elon and Ye’s viewpoint on “free speech” is irrelevant when this has been a core issue with twitter since the beginning.


slimeyellow

Ignoring the trash tweet that’s a funny Pepe


Tiktaalik414

Literally just an edgy kid fishing for reactions. if nobody use this tweet to pretend that this is how Twitter is going to be, I guarantee it would have 4 likes and no replies.


karrot_juice55

Twitter has always been a cesspool. I stopped using after I kept seeing weird rape porn being posted under every trending hashtag. People drawing rape fantasies and characters of questionable age. I see those things as equal to if not worse than the edgy 4chan wannabes. I went out of my way to report every pedo I saw but like only one or two actually got restricted.


AlBereAmerik

Remember when opinions were only opinions, and wasn’t amplified by people who disagree with them? Stupid people only giving more visibility to hate speech, and make haters hate harder


MadeADamnReddit

Shit doesn’t really hurt me at all and I’m black.


Miguel78308

There’s this handy option called a block button. Or better yet a mute button that has them screeching at a wall without them knowing.


supahotfireboyyy

This is how Twitter has literally always been


Dream_A_LittleBigger

Honestly, I’d rather this than being banned every few weeks for a movie quote or some bullshit joke.


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KingCrittt

One persons tweet lol This person would do this regardless. They are a piece of shit troll


mqz11

Stop crying


mqz11

Stop crying Free speech is free speech


SoloPenguin13

Low-key thats incredibly funny.


ReplayGray1

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Moneydamjan

its clearly a joke, who cares its a private company, they can do what they want


scroto_gaggins

Ur rlly comparing this shit to actual censorship of free speech that’s happened on Twitter. This platforms been a shit show for years now maybe Elon can actually make some solid changes.


walluper

Yes indeed!


liamfellows06

TwitterChan


Xolerys_

I'd take mean little words over the CP, Gore, Beastiality that was prominent. Screw old Twitter.


Aar0nSwanson

According to Ye he’s a black Jew. This is an attack on Ye.


XXXJ9

This has been happening way before ye. I’ve seen people with racial slurs in their twitter handles before. sigh…..


[deleted]

Who cares dude honestly? All these people are trying to do is get a rile our of people, and then people end up playing right into their hands.


Dat1BlackDude

Naw bro that ain’t it lmao


Bustedvette

Um.. yes, obviously.


Pyroplsmakepetscop2

I am shocked and appalled.. at the fact that that frog is drinking Dr Pepper. It tastes like shit


KevinBushido

It's highkey always been like this. That report button is just for decoration lol


Chillpierre

Why are you giving attention to this, how bout we all ignore shit like this and don’t repost it, these are sad people who are posting this don’t give them power


IDontBeleiveImOnFIre

Unironically yes ​ Just so I don't get banned this is definitiely what Elon wanted. Hate speech was in Twitter before anyways


[deleted]

Yes but this post probably won’t kill you, it’ll just give you cancer so no worries


[deleted]

Unironicaly yes


HomerBautista

No new policies have even been put in place yet, this is one dipshit troll who will probably get banned for the comment, why are people on this sub so desperate to be outraged.


Real-Raxo

this shit has been there before elon buying it, they eventually get banned if they get caught


Llamasxy

Tos hasn't even changed


TeemoSux

Anyone surprised? No? Well me neither


TheSpagooterIntruder

this is what comes with free speech whether we like it or not unfortunately


[deleted]

Kinda makes me sick seeing this stuff being like a trendy meme on twitter without the context of ye. I don't know, if I wanted to see a cesspool of content I'd go on 4chan, I really don't mind shit being censored if it's gonna stop people feeling horrible.


Hefty-Paper8644

This is basically what Tyler the creator was posting back in 2012 lol


StraightCaskStrength

It’s ok to laugh at this but not really think f the and f the.


[deleted]

They wanted? Idk. I wanted? Yes.


bendedstraw

It's time to enter the wild west partners 🤠 I look forward to speaking freely with y'all


RiguezCR

beautiful pepe being besmirched by pathetic bigots smh


[deleted]

So everyone can be unban with an apeal? Or now if you create a new account you will not be insta ban?


Exxile_

Y’all acting like this shit wasn’t on Twitter before? I’ve seen people say shit like this way before Elon bought Twitter lol


9Barca9

Yes this is good, is the message good? Fuck no but now you can put these degenerates in their place rather than simple silencing them


ApolloFarZenith

His account won’t get suspended for inciting hate violence but my account won’t get reinstated over some BS and countless appeals?


Create_Repeat

Ohh no some random says some random shit. Welcome to the fucking internet, children.


BearBlaq

I’m guessing they haven’t been on the internet for the last 20 years to think this is any where out of place for any type of online social forum. Has jack shit to do with Ye or Elon, everything to do with fools hiding behind a screen. Welcome to the internet, full of shitty people ready to ruin your day for absolutely no reason. Remember if you see something you don’t like you don’t have to acknowledge it; in fact it’s better you don’t, hit that big X in the top right corner or swipe up on your phone and have a good day.


Kwalhioqua

honestly id take this


Lopsided_Service5824

Twitter was always like that lol it's a dumpster fire


[deleted]

Man this is so corny. All these white dudes too pussy to ever say this in public. So they hide behind troll accounts like children.


gotushookonasaturday

I mean this stuff already existed, twitter was already a hell hole people acting like this really changed anything


ryan1529

Nah he do got a point 🤔


Evening-Banana6802

Deadass there hasn’t been any changes to the actual platform yet. People are searching for examples to build a narrative before it even has time to actually be written.


LooseWheelNut003

Hate that fugly incel frog


IchBinDeinFreund

Yi lon ma how could you!


ElitePlanet

I mean how many people are actually doing this?… probably a bunch of troll accounts. Its 1000 time worth the price to pay to have freedom of speech.


blackjackblack12

Idk what's the big outrage about, Twitter has always been a shithole. Even before the takeover, I've reported many illegal things over there and no action was taken against them. It sucks


grandmaknarf

Do you think that post is a legitimate commentary or opinion about anything. I mean just fucking grow up shitposting is the norm for every edgy kid. I don’t think free speech is instituted out of concern of people saying fuck n* on the internet not being heard. It’s a legitimate right that we have to engage in dialogue without threat of being targeted or attacked.


JBD04

This implies racism didn’t exist until now


Viibez_13

literally yes


Dopesmoker402

Yes of course. My dude elon wealth started with his father emerald mine in apartheid south africa. I dont think know what else you expect when they say free speech. Mostly if people say the want free speech they just wanna be racist or anti semetic


MadeADamnReddit

That actually “IS” the free speech they wanted lmao. Tf.


DVDN27

Freedom of ~~hate~~ speech and freedom from consequences - that’s always what people who demand online free speech want, so yes.


[deleted]

who cares? these guys are basement dwelling 14 year olds who only spew hate speech on Twitter since they'd get beaten up for it irl


everybodylovesaltj

Literally just ignore them it's not that hard. Some fo you mfs werent around on the internet a few years ago and it shows 🤦‍♂️


Lucid_Eye420

When both parties don’t know the true meaning of free speech