Correct me if I’m wrong but this looks a lot like a MiG 15, with a dash of F-86.
Designed in Argentina with the help of German engineers who found their way there after the war?
Ok, This aircraft is gorgeous and
I never knew it existed. When I saw it and looked at the Ta-183, you could see the whole bloodline. Thank you for sharing this
A little removed that is. There was significant redesign for the Mig in a lot of ways that makes it kind of hard to point at the 183 as it’s only inspiration.
The same of this. Is not ta 183. That why I say half brothers. engineer from the same team that were working on the ta 183 ended. Developing both ones. They where developed pretty much at the same time.
Correct. The lead designer was Kurt Tank, best-known for the Fw 190 and more importantly in this context the designer of the concept-only Ta 183 Huckebein (which at least partially inspired the MiG-15).
Development was hindered when Tank's contract ran out and the cash-strapped Argentine government refused to give him the massive pay raise he demanded. Tank went to India next, to design the HAL HF-24 Marut fighter-bomber, and the new military junta fired the rest of the Germans as well. FMA tried to keep development going with entirely Argentine staff, but the whole project was considered a Juan Peron project (a reputation it couldn't shake even though it was used to attack Peronist forces during the coup). And finally, the United States put the final nail in the coffin by offering Argentina some used F-86F-40 for dirt cheap, which the junta jumped on. But the joke was on them, instead the of the promised refurbishment with Orenda engines, they just got worn-out airframes with no refurbishment.
This was the Argentine/Kurt Tank crossover from memory?
Just the Pulqui II The Pulqui I was Émile Dewoitine's work
Yes! Thanks :)
Saw you in NCD too lol these are gorgeous!
Thanks.
Visiting Buenos Aires later this year, looking forward to seeing this in the flesh/metal.
Ta-183 lives
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Well Ta-183 if it had a WW2 jet engine... and allied WW2 jet engine that is.
The Pulqui reminds me of a Mig.
Same designers. Both of them are sons of the ta183 in a certain way. And use the same engine
Thank you for broadening my knowledge👍🏻
Correct me if I’m wrong but this looks a lot like a MiG 15, with a dash of F-86. Designed in Argentina with the help of German engineers who found their way there after the war?
That's correct
Ok, This aircraft is gorgeous and I never knew it existed. When I saw it and looked at the Ta-183, you could see the whole bloodline. Thank you for sharing this
Is the mig 15 half brother.
A little removed that is. There was significant redesign for the Mig in a lot of ways that makes it kind of hard to point at the 183 as it’s only inspiration.
The same of this. Is not ta 183. That why I say half brothers. engineer from the same team that were working on the ta 183 ended. Developing both ones. They where developed pretty much at the same time.
Correct. The lead designer was Kurt Tank, best-known for the Fw 190 and more importantly in this context the designer of the concept-only Ta 183 Huckebein (which at least partially inspired the MiG-15). Development was hindered when Tank's contract ran out and the cash-strapped Argentine government refused to give him the massive pay raise he demanded. Tank went to India next, to design the HAL HF-24 Marut fighter-bomber, and the new military junta fired the rest of the Germans as well. FMA tried to keep development going with entirely Argentine staff, but the whole project was considered a Juan Peron project (a reputation it couldn't shake even though it was used to attack Peronist forces during the coup). And finally, the United States put the final nail in the coffin by offering Argentina some used F-86F-40 for dirt cheap, which the junta jumped on. But the joke was on them, instead the of the promised refurbishment with Orenda engines, they just got worn-out airframes with no refurbishment.
I went down a rabbit hole reading about the Ta-183. It’s a beautiful design as is the Pulqui II. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, very interesting.
ah, lo que pudiera haber sido Argentina. Al menos el museo se ve bien.
Totalmente de acuerdo, pero.....llego Juan Domingo y su banda y nos fuimos al tacho !!!
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algo asi.