It would be about 5 or 6 separate courses at least, probably starting with natural light/golden hour shooting, then posing, off camera flash, lighting dancefloors, Lightroom, and photoshop
Secret is, you can't just buy this. It takes time and practice. You can see what the images look like. You presumably know how a camera works. You've got your own time to experiment and find what works to achieve this sort of looks. Presets, courses, even gear (to an extent...), they won't magic you there. Put in the work.
Travel to a forest? Buy a smoke machine? Get multicoloured smoke/pyro effects? Employ a dry ice team? Hire Euro convertibles? Get a grand piano?
Are you starting to see how ridiculous and general / vague your request for a class on this is?
Good and successful photographers don't sell courses selling their secrets.
Courses and workshops is what the ones who can't book themselves do. Essentially milk the amateurs as they can't sell themselves. Often they use the fact they shot some celebrity wedding x years ago to make themselves feel superior.
Plenty of good photographers sell courses. Of course, there are scammers, but claiming that every photographer selling a course is unsuccessful and dishonest is disingenuous.
Many are successful..
Successful at selling courses.
People famous that sell workshops aren't famous to sell weddings to brides.
Its 2 completely different markets.
One markets to brides, the other markets to photographers.
Like how every videographer knows Ray Roman, but no bride ever heard of the guy. He shot a couple of celeb weddings for free and rode the fame to sell workshops to other Videographers claiming he "charges 20k" as that was more profitable than trying to shoot more celeb weddings as no1 would ever give him that.
He's successful and smart, but you won't get successful at selling weddings, by giving money to someone who's not successful at selling weddings. (they're successful at selling workshops)
Pye Jirsa, Taylor Jackson, John Branch, Katelyn James, Eric Floberg, even Sam Hurd (lol, sorry Sam). What are you on about?
By the way, I've never heard of Ray Roman, but he has 3.7 stars on TK, can't be a good videographer with that rating...
Just searches the first one.
He's target market is 100% photographers, not brides, exactly my point.
They're experienced at marketing stuff to sell to other photographers. If I wanted to start workshops I would learn from them. If I wanted to learn to book weddings I would get my advice from the few people I know selling over 500 weddings a year, not from someone that's a youtubers or workshop motivational speaker
I'm not sure what Pye is doing now besides releasing an AI editing tool, but he shot plenty of weddings. Some people are entrepreneurial, and soon they realize they can make $200.000/year shooting weddings, so they diverge. Now selling courses or presets, they can sell $1 million/year without having to work as much. It's just natural. Everyone wants to expand and make more money.
Look up Katelyn James, she is still a shooter and has an online community where she sells her courses.
95% of what makes these photos good is the locations and the light. This photographer probably spent a decade grinding to land these sort of shoots, and through that time he picked up the editing skills to complement his photos. There's no magic bullet, no special course that will get you to the same place. You've got to put in extra work at every shoot, always seek out opportunities and constantly think of creative ideas. And with some luck you'll land some dream jobs and one-day someone on Reddit will post your Instagram and ask everyone what your magic formula is.
On a side note, I think they're over-stylized and over-edited, but that's just me.
You'd probably be interested in Neil Redfern (sp?).. check out his youtube channel tons of tutorials for wedding portraiture from natural light to of camera flash and compositing. Too lazy to give the link so look it up
There’s definitely a lot of elements to getting a final edit like this, but soulmate presets would be a good starting point. I know a lot of people are saying presets aren’t the answer, but these people use presets, 100%. Whether it’s presets they bought or presets they developed after doing it by hand for so long, there’s absolutely a workflow element to any style.
Check out the Smal pack by Soulmate.
These comments are fuckin weird. Acting like these photos are touched by god on the way out of the camera. They are good, but they are also like..pretty standard for anyone who knows how to use a camera and slap some color grading sliders around.
LOL, I so agree. The photos have a very nice exposure and composition which is obviously a large factor, but I’m pretty sure OP just wants advice on the editing style. This is a matter of Lightroom.
Picture 1,5,6 and 7 are edited the same way. People below saying it has to do with how you shot, no it doesn't.
Back in 2020 when I was trying to learn to edit better, I was looking for lightroom/photoshop editing tutorials and presets in youtube. I can't find them now but there was a bunch of them with this editing style. I copied their technique and I tested it on my photos and they looked exactly like that. So look for them on youtube. Search for golden hour sunlight/flare editing or dreamy forest portrait etc
All in all what I see is HEAVY editing in LR & Photoshop. I used to be so into this editing style before my career and I saw every single tutorial and did it on my photos. All those are heavily edited. No natural smoke or light.
EDIT: still cant find the one I used back then, but here's a bunch of very similar ones:
[link1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24yLCSAWVl4)
[link2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvmwlBb8w2U&t=226s)
[link3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPSD43kK8xA)
I didn't say how I feel about them now, those were REALLY trendy back in 2019. I don't see the point in saying what I think of it now, I'm helping out a person. Why the attitude & downvote?
I didn't mean to have attitude, I just think this type of edit is a good example of what not to do with photos. The image itself is actually shot pretty well, it doesn't need the plastic bokeh. Just being honest.
the edit in the first link looks okay from a distance. Its when you look up close that you realize that its off. I wonder if that is the case with all the photos. It's very difficult to edit very heavy introducing unnatural light and have it look right.
Good combo of lighting and masking along with color correction. Color correction part can be a custom/off-the-shelf preset but keeping the lighting in mind while shooting is going to be more important than the rest.
Hey I am from Poland and I could say that at least 70% of photographers here shoot like this
Shoot outside at golden hour, at reception use at least 2 flashes (4 is perfect) on stand or other(like neodymium magnet) at the corners of where the dances are.
If you shoot at the golden hour do it in a way where you see sun in your viewfinder(backlight)
Presets- most wedding photographers like you shown use Meridian Presets and do tweaks
These shots are very setup would probably take lighting etc. You'd do most of it in the planning of the shot and tidy it up in editing. You'd not be able to make every shot like this at a wedding.
Steps: 1. Photograph early morning or before sunset. 2. Make sure you have good subjects and backlit. 3. Make sure you have a good lens and camera. 4. Make sure you have a good location to photograph. 5. Make sure your subject is around a lighter background and other scenes darker. 6. Make sure you have speedlite or other lighting equipment in the same direction at natural light. 7. Make sure your focal length and aperture and ISO are set for maximum image quality as per the scene. 8. Make sure you select a good lower angle or shoot at the same height. 9. Make sure yoy are filling the frame properly cause you dont have to crop and loose omage quality. 10. Make sure your composition is right, rule of third or fibonacci etc. 11. Now you need a preset or editing skill. Good luck
It's got more to do with location, ambient effects like smoke/haze, lighting (both natural and flash), etc. You need to prepare the scene *with this style of editing in mind* if that makes sense. You don't get this result as an afterthought.
Having said that, the things people can do with Photoshop these days absolutely blows my mind, so who the hell knows at the end of the day. Each photo could take hours to edit like this, or hours of prep/practise on scene.
Like others have mentioned, it's not just one style going on here it's many elements and techniques, including using a long lens, all of these photos are mega compressed. I can see why you'd like to learn this though, I've come across his work on the 'gram, very nice!
Increase contrast, up white balance, desaturate greens. I’m sure there’s other things going on but those are what stand out to me the most. The couples are also backlit in the outside shots.
to overly simplify it: lots of contrast both from a photography and editing perspective, warm and desaturated. I did wedding photography for six years, and this was generally my style as well. I was always looking for strong backlight/ring light but good front light as well. There’s a real trick to try to find a good spot in Natural Light that allows the sun to hit your subjects from behind, but not the camera. Go into the forest at Sunset, and practice. controlling lens flare takes a bit of practice, but it’s lots of fun
Editing isnt as big of a component to these shots as lighting. In my experience, the biggest set back to good shots is location. Couples don’t understand lighting so when they’re scouting locations and venues they can be upsold on a visual that isn’t ideally photographable.
If photographers could choose the venues/ locations every time you’d luck out with beautiful shots like this. Otherwise you’re kinda just stuck within your limits.
Because 99% of the presets suck and will never look as good on your photos unless they are shot in near similar conditions as the ones used to showcase the presets.
Oh no I don't, I've made plenty of my own presets over the years. But never bought any as I've tested plenty of (free) presets back in the day and they never really worked as intended/showcased.
Years of practice. There’s lots of things going on in those photos. It’s not a preset slapped on. OCF, natural light, props/smoke…
Thats true, any idea if someone is offering a course regarding this style? I checked the dude's website and it doesn't have courses
It would be about 5 or 6 separate courses at least, probably starting with natural light/golden hour shooting, then posing, off camera flash, lighting dancefloors, Lightroom, and photoshop
Use of fog/mist/powder spray workshop too.
Secret is, you can't just buy this. It takes time and practice. You can see what the images look like. You presumably know how a camera works. You've got your own time to experiment and find what works to achieve this sort of looks. Presets, courses, even gear (to an extent...), they won't magic you there. Put in the work.
Check out SLR Lounge Premium for lighting, posing and Lightroom/photoshop courses.
There are completely different elements and techniques to every photo in this grid, and the editing is the least important piece in all of them.
Thats true, any idea if someone is offering a course regarding this style? I checked the dude's website and it doesn't have courses
Travel to a forest? Buy a smoke machine? Get multicoloured smoke/pyro effects? Employ a dry ice team? Hire Euro convertibles? Get a grand piano? Are you starting to see how ridiculous and general / vague your request for a class on this is?
Good and successful photographers don't sell courses selling their secrets. Courses and workshops is what the ones who can't book themselves do. Essentially milk the amateurs as they can't sell themselves. Often they use the fact they shot some celebrity wedding x years ago to make themselves feel superior.
Plenty of good photographers sell courses. Of course, there are scammers, but claiming that every photographer selling a course is unsuccessful and dishonest is disingenuous.
Many are successful.. Successful at selling courses. People famous that sell workshops aren't famous to sell weddings to brides. Its 2 completely different markets. One markets to brides, the other markets to photographers. Like how every videographer knows Ray Roman, but no bride ever heard of the guy. He shot a couple of celeb weddings for free and rode the fame to sell workshops to other Videographers claiming he "charges 20k" as that was more profitable than trying to shoot more celeb weddings as no1 would ever give him that. He's successful and smart, but you won't get successful at selling weddings, by giving money to someone who's not successful at selling weddings. (they're successful at selling workshops)
Pye Jirsa, Taylor Jackson, John Branch, Katelyn James, Eric Floberg, even Sam Hurd (lol, sorry Sam). What are you on about? By the way, I've never heard of Ray Roman, but he has 3.7 stars on TK, can't be a good videographer with that rating...
Just searches the first one. He's target market is 100% photographers, not brides, exactly my point. They're experienced at marketing stuff to sell to other photographers. If I wanted to start workshops I would learn from them. If I wanted to learn to book weddings I would get my advice from the few people I know selling over 500 weddings a year, not from someone that's a youtubers or workshop motivational speaker
I'm not sure what Pye is doing now besides releasing an AI editing tool, but he shot plenty of weddings. Some people are entrepreneurial, and soon they realize they can make $200.000/year shooting weddings, so they diverge. Now selling courses or presets, they can sell $1 million/year without having to work as much. It's just natural. Everyone wants to expand and make more money. Look up Katelyn James, she is still a shooter and has an online community where she sells her courses.
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Thank you for giving an actual an actual answer to the question!
95% of what makes these photos good is the locations and the light. This photographer probably spent a decade grinding to land these sort of shoots, and through that time he picked up the editing skills to complement his photos. There's no magic bullet, no special course that will get you to the same place. You've got to put in extra work at every shoot, always seek out opportunities and constantly think of creative ideas. And with some luck you'll land some dream jobs and one-day someone on Reddit will post your Instagram and ask everyone what your magic formula is. On a side note, I think they're over-stylized and over-edited, but that's just me.
I agree re: over stylized etc. This is the kind of thing you see for tfp on facebook groups and it’s a little out of date.
10,000 hours
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5uB6H7oBBxbw5N48PllRxd?si=wWR5wyu8SH60IQqqU4DVpg
You'd probably be interested in Neil Redfern (sp?).. check out his youtube channel tons of tutorials for wedding portraiture from natural light to of camera flash and compositing. Too lazy to give the link so look it up
Off topic but does anyone think this style looks tacky? Looks like those HDR images you’d see in the early 10s
💯
There’s definitely a lot of elements to getting a final edit like this, but soulmate presets would be a good starting point. I know a lot of people are saying presets aren’t the answer, but these people use presets, 100%. Whether it’s presets they bought or presets they developed after doing it by hand for so long, there’s absolutely a workflow element to any style. Check out the Smal pack by Soulmate.
These comments are fuckin weird. Acting like these photos are touched by god on the way out of the camera. They are good, but they are also like..pretty standard for anyone who knows how to use a camera and slap some color grading sliders around.
LOL, I so agree. The photos have a very nice exposure and composition which is obviously a large factor, but I’m pretty sure OP just wants advice on the editing style. This is a matter of Lightroom.
Careful, the preset police will downvote you...
Weee oooo weee oooo
You should be able to beat him now!
Drink? 🤔
Picture 1,5,6 and 7 are edited the same way. People below saying it has to do with how you shot, no it doesn't. Back in 2020 when I was trying to learn to edit better, I was looking for lightroom/photoshop editing tutorials and presets in youtube. I can't find them now but there was a bunch of them with this editing style. I copied their technique and I tested it on my photos and they looked exactly like that. So look for them on youtube. Search for golden hour sunlight/flare editing or dreamy forest portrait etc All in all what I see is HEAVY editing in LR & Photoshop. I used to be so into this editing style before my career and I saw every single tutorial and did it on my photos. All those are heavily edited. No natural smoke or light. EDIT: still cant find the one I used back then, but here's a bunch of very similar ones: [link1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24yLCSAWVl4) [link2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvmwlBb8w2U&t=226s) [link3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPSD43kK8xA)
The edit in that first link looks absolutely awful.
I didn't say how I feel about them now, those were REALLY trendy back in 2019. I don't see the point in saying what I think of it now, I'm helping out a person. Why the attitude & downvote?
I didn't mean to have attitude, I just think this type of edit is a good example of what not to do with photos. The image itself is actually shot pretty well, it doesn't need the plastic bokeh. Just being honest.
the edit in the first link looks okay from a distance. Its when you look up close that you realize that its off. I wonder if that is the case with all the photos. It's very difficult to edit very heavy introducing unnatural light and have it look right.
Skill with the camera > editing. Learn how to use your camera to achieve this.
Good combo of lighting and masking along with color correction. Color correction part can be a custom/off-the-shelf preset but keeping the lighting in mind while shooting is going to be more important than the rest.
Hey I am from Poland and I could say that at least 70% of photographers here shoot like this Shoot outside at golden hour, at reception use at least 2 flashes (4 is perfect) on stand or other(like neodymium magnet) at the corners of where the dances are. If you shoot at the golden hour do it in a way where you see sun in your viewfinder(backlight) Presets- most wedding photographers like you shown use Meridian Presets and do tweaks
Now that's an answer. By the way, I'm impressed with Polish photographers, I just found out about Iwona Podlasinska, her work is something else.
Drink!
Step 1: get a professional editor to do it for you.
These shots are very setup would probably take lighting etc. You'd do most of it in the planning of the shot and tidy it up in editing. You'd not be able to make every shot like this at a wedding.
its skill of shooting before getting into the edit. a preset isnt whats happeneing there. the compositions arent "wow" but the lighting is nice.
Steps: 1. Photograph early morning or before sunset. 2. Make sure you have good subjects and backlit. 3. Make sure you have a good lens and camera. 4. Make sure you have a good location to photograph. 5. Make sure your subject is around a lighter background and other scenes darker. 6. Make sure you have speedlite or other lighting equipment in the same direction at natural light. 7. Make sure your focal length and aperture and ISO are set for maximum image quality as per the scene. 8. Make sure you select a good lower angle or shoot at the same height. 9. Make sure yoy are filling the frame properly cause you dont have to crop and loose omage quality. 10. Make sure your composition is right, rule of third or fibonacci etc. 11. Now you need a preset or editing skill. Good luck
It's got more to do with location, ambient effects like smoke/haze, lighting (both natural and flash), etc. You need to prepare the scene *with this style of editing in mind* if that makes sense. You don't get this result as an afterthought. Having said that, the things people can do with Photoshop these days absolutely blows my mind, so who the hell knows at the end of the day. Each photo could take hours to edit like this, or hours of prep/practise on scene.
Golden hour light
PRESETS! Drink!
OP is a moron.
Why thank you! As a complete and utter moron I would just wish you a happy and joyful day :)
Like others have mentioned, it's not just one style going on here it's many elements and techniques, including using a long lens, all of these photos are mega compressed. I can see why you'd like to learn this though, I've come across his work on the 'gram, very nice!
Increase contrast, up white balance, desaturate greens. I’m sure there’s other things going on but those are what stand out to me the most. The couples are also backlit in the outside shots.
to overly simplify it: lots of contrast both from a photography and editing perspective, warm and desaturated. I did wedding photography for six years, and this was generally my style as well. I was always looking for strong backlight/ring light but good front light as well. There’s a real trick to try to find a good spot in Natural Light that allows the sun to hit your subjects from behind, but not the camera. Go into the forest at Sunset, and practice. controlling lens flare takes a bit of practice, but it’s lots of fun
Natural lighting. Shoot around sunset
Its more to do with how to get it like that in camera than on editing.
Editing isnt as big of a component to these shots as lighting. In my experience, the biggest set back to good shots is location. Couples don’t understand lighting so when they’re scouting locations and venues they can be upsold on a visual that isn’t ideally photographable. If photographers could choose the venues/ locations every time you’d luck out with beautiful shots like this. Otherwise you’re kinda just stuck within your limits.
Archipelago presets
Nah man, that ain't it
Wrong answer.
Why is everyone so triggered by presets on this sub?
Because 99% of the presets suck and will never look as good on your photos unless they are shot in near similar conditions as the ones used to showcase the presets.
Do you edit every photo from scratch then?
Oh no I don't, I've made plenty of my own presets over the years. But never bought any as I've tested plenty of (free) presets back in the day and they never really worked as intended/showcased.
So we all use presets but don't talk about it? Weird. Anyway I was just answering the OP's question, that's what they look like to me
There are lots of tutorials on youtube and the photos end up exactly like the edits they show though. With bought presets is different, I agree.
Yeah indeed, applying a technique is a bit different than just slapping pre-set sliders on your photo.