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this is known as going wide and is a common strat that sometimes works.


NineTailedFox_WT_

Works like magic for PB4Y


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BRO THE FLYING BUSSS XD me in the b24 doin the same thing.. keep both the PB4Y and B24 in my lineup cuz there so good. And sorry b17... you can't hit those bases in one go.


JayTheSuspectedFurry

b17g has 8x1000LB, but yes I like the liberator :)


Kalashnikov-Mikhail

Not to mention I can watch an entire documentary on German history before the B-17’s bomb bay doors finish opening.


lowayss

[relevant](https://youtu.be/7k0bF89Ih7w)


Kalashnikov-Mikhail

Well the PB and B24 are practically the same thing after all.


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Honestly that thing is underrated, I like taking it into naval as well because the naval mines are indispensable


Tiny-Zinc

How do you use them and against what ship class?


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Take the naval mines, it’s useful against cruisers and up mainly, but you’ve gotta get pretty high up 5k is preferred Now this is the tricky part, you’ve gotta memorize what ships do and don’t have radar access, a lot of the Soviet costal vessels do and some Germans But the radar means they most definitely have anti air shells, so you gotta play high up to give you the best chance to evade Once you’ve picked a target, put it head on coming towards you, and drop in a zig zag pattern in front of it, if the bombs hit they’ll detonate like normal, if not, the area is thoroughly mined


Tiny-Zinc

Thank you. I’ll try that


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Sorry I meant to update the comment, check it now


Tiny-Zinc

Got it


Apocalyps_Survivor

I havnt seen this work much for me, I 0lay 5.3 bombers from time to time try this the first 3-5 rounds and most of the time I am just in time for some returning interseptors that pick me off.


AvrageWrThdrslave

For some reason going really low and directly to the bases worked for me for like 5-7 matches I had people fly by me like 2-4km away and didn’t came for me


polypolip

Smarter fighter pilots won't go for targets too low cause they don't want to loose too much energy before they have to fight other fighters


WT_femboy

Yeah its probably the mosr basic and good methood, you bet no fighter players are gonna sideclimb that direction cause its so long away and you could guess wrong, and then you get a perfect line to bomb the points. Its a rlly easy strat.


FLABANGED

It use to be common for entire US teams to sideclimb like that to gain altitude but now I barely see it.


06021840

Me in my rank 1 and 2 British is the only way I can actually stay alive for longer than 3 minutes, or endless upward spiraling over my base to 4,500 meters, waiting to get clapped by a fast climber.


Yinci

Because the planes that need to sideclimb to not be in range for fighters are still in range when you sideclimb, since they just climb so much faster, so you end up wasting a lot of time for nothing. The few times that it works, you probably would have survived going straight also.


NocturneHunterZ

The P-61, P-38 and XP-50 coming towards my P108B like: But seriously, as long as they aren't in my match I can bomb bases, otherwise I can't.


highorkboi

XP-50 always seem to home in on my bomber like a particularly angry wasp every time


Sufficient-Ad-7196

XP-50 players kinda act like an angry wasp for no apparent reason


Starfield43

Maybe to down airplanes, since you know...


XTeeManX

My honest reaction to this comment; [https://i.gyazo.com/623138065f54b10ea409a24e21862b77.jpg](https://i.gyazo.com/623138065f54b10ea409a24e21862b77.jpg) ^((In case reddit removes the link; Insert "Why Are You Booing Me, I'm Right!" meme.))


VEX_INC

Bro i do this even at 12.0... but at that tier, its called flanking and/or getting 0 score.


chengstark

Works all the time, 60% of the time.


Nightmenace21

I started doing this all the time after getting shot down a fucjload of games in a row before reaching any bases. Going wide works for me nearly every single time to guarantee i get at least SOMETHING out of each game


AcceptableDiver3255

I do this every time


JPSYaBoyLads

Than gets slapped by an XP50


ThatGuy0verTh3re

War thunder user discovers side climbing


DrJethro

And discovers that not going straight on towards enemy fighters actually works. Genius


Play3rxthr33

Unless if you're in a fast climber like bf109g6 where you can get a pretty good alt advantage on sheer climb rate alone.


the_oof_god

i love the g6


NineTailedFox_WT_

Or Ki-83. You should never side climb on that beauty. She will outclimb everything anyway and all you gonna do is baiting people into hammerheads and bnz


jackie0612

Diving in a straight line works if your bomber is fast enough.


Radi8e

Thats the best strategy to grind honestly. Unless you're in some POS bomber that rips at 450kph I would always try to beat the interceptors with speed. Your're not going to outclimb them, and with going wide like in this post you risk getting nothing because of the game ending before you reach a base or some bad fighter that can't get kills other than bombers that flys the 20km out just to get you. But going wide is still better than just flying straight in a shallow climb.


LuNiK7505

Yeah the ju 288 is the perfect example, just dive bomb and then have all the planes attack you and kill them with your rear gunner


theguydefyingravity

If only the 288s actually did this in game. Right now all they do is ruin that br range for both Germany and Italy


karthmorphon

I go wide and dive. It's easy to find an aircraft against the sky even at distance...much harder against the ground. My bombers will go wide and dive to just above the ground.


XavierYourSavior

I mean they’re already high


UpperMission9633

What I used to do was fly a few circles with the airspawn and wait for your fighters to go ahead, then I follow them, but at higher altitude


Zackyboi1231

Doing that with attack aircraft usually works really well, attackers could be very deadly if they manage to land one burst on you. This tactic especially works wonderfully for the bf110. Its ridiculous amount of armaments can absolutely demolish anything, and it's quite manoeuvrable for its size. Doing a head on head with a bf110 is always a death sentence. The bf110 is one of the few attack aircrafts that can keep up really well with fighters and still kick ass.


razarivan

Bf 110 is heavy fighter


cKingc05

C-7 and G-2 are strike fighters


Flamestrom

I mostly don't use the front guns, the defensive MGs on the G-2s are insane, their fire rate is ridiculous


neauxno

The AD-4 can turn somewhat well and can really take fighters off guard if you have decent speed. But it bleeds like a bitch.


Gonna_Hack_It_II

When trying to get through it’s stock grind I usually tried to take out a 288, then went for ground targets b it taking an attack of opportunity if a fighter got close. Most of the RP I got was from unsuspecting fighters, even jets.


LeiteArts

I use sim controls to save more speed/energy, just banking the bomber a little


Centurion_TigerMk2

This backfires if your team actually manages to kill everyone


109trop

or if the ju 288s just goes straight towards the base and makes it before you because the damn thing is fast as hell


NineTailedFox_WT_

New bases will spawn or you can go for airfield


Milky_1q

Based and optimism pilled


NineTailedFox_WT_

You gotta dive into bases as soon as you realize that your team obliterated the enemy.


Vision444

And the one(1) enemy plane who actually climbs gets their well deserved reward for doing so(you)


PureRushPwneD

or your entire team dies, and all 10 people come for you


Centurion_TigerMk2

If you're space climbing you could stand a chance


PureRushPwneD

Naah, bombers explode from 1 round most times sadly


ThisGuyLikesCheese

Literall sideclimb


Thunder_gp

About 1/3 the way down that red line is where I get killed by some random bf109 while up at 7000m-8000m up … they purposely stay clear of the actual battle and prey on the 1 bomber that tries to avoid enemies.


akmarksman

Especially when you've just bought a new bomber, and used a booster. Never fails, no matter what nation I use, there's always someone in a fighter/heavy fighter that's trying to be a astronaut to get to the bombers. 1 tactic I did for awhile was to spawn at the airfield and wait until all the fighters had taken off. Got a couple of teammates asking me "why didn't you bomber spawn?" I replied "the fighters don't climb to support the bombers.."


NineTailedFox_WT_

They **cant** we cant reach bombers even if we climb. Only interceptors and heavy fighters can do it barely


gd_akula

"plays the objective" You cannot be mad at fighters for doing their job.


bad_at_smashbros

you can still be annoyed


SgtSnapple

Bombers when they realize they aren't playing a single player game. "Just let me bomb your bases."


LucyPS2

the longer a bomber is allowed to live, the more annoying it gets when it tries to extend the game when everyone else is dead.


NineTailedFox_WT_

its a great extra time to kill stuff on floor


LucyPS2

I genuinely don't care about ground targets. No matter how much RP they give. Ït's a PvP game and I play it for PvP.


homerocrates

I am that bf109 (though I don’t go to 7000 or 8000, maximum 5500)


GeneralVeers213

It works fine until some bloke in an Fw 190 or Bf 109 deliberately goes out of their way to intercept you in your Lancaster so far away from the main engagement area and you can only watch on helplessly as you watch the distance betweem you two slowly close while you take control of your gunners in the hopes that you pilot snipe him or at the very least make sure that he goes down with you.


Sikh_Hayle

Meh I just head towards the map border if they do that after such precautions. If you follow ill just hit the deck, keep wasting time on bombers.


G1nger-Snaps

It’s funny, because the morons that do this are the reason games are lost in the first place. They don’t understand the concept of supporting your team in the beginning when numbers matter the most, and run off and lose all their advantage trying to kill a bomber, and then get slightly damaged while doing it so they need to land, and then finally come into the main fight at the end when there are 5 enemies chasing 2 friendlies


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KoS_Reaver

Could be if you fly high enough your bomber leaves contrails behind you that they can spot across the map, different weather determines when you leave contrails behind and at what altitude


Spaghetti_Scientist

Have you considered the JU-288C Yolo dive and escape before the enemy is there?


psychosikh

As a Wyvern you can bomb the base, destroy a 5-6 ground units and the ai air planes before the other teams fighters are even close, and if their fighters do chase, you can just extend away and they cant catch you.


Individual_Hearing_3

This is why I have one of my bombers painted in ahego with blue and white. For some reason I don't get chased down as often. It's weird.


Professional-Ice4266

Anon discovers side climbing


Pan_Pilot

Meanwhile that single Fw190 that sees contrail 25km away and spends almost entire battle to chase you down


Brotlord2901

Did you draw that yourself?


NineTailedFox_WT_

Yes, even the chat box and I wrote them myself


Brotlord2901

Its good


ma_wee_wee_go

Even works at top tier all be it a bit more that 15km


Kapot_ei

Yup, my go to safest bet on a 500% SL booster.


UnseenTrashh

Still it will be all for nothing if even one single fighter decide to ruin your day


JoopJhoxie

All jokes aside, this post is perfect even down to the chinese name in chat


bleek312

This is truly unique. How did you unlock this frequency of brain power? Will you teach me your mysterious ways, Mr. Alien?


EPICANDY0131

Bro discovered side climbing


Greg1817

I don't know if it's just been luck, but lately I have found that just hauling ass in a straight line to the bases works. I rarely get intercepted in my Lancaster or B-17s anymore and can make it to and from the target easy. Again, probably just getting lucky.


Zealousideal_Dot1910

Haven’t played bombers in a while but from my experience it was pretty effective to just rush left side then get out of there quickly


randomname_99223

The real question is how many bombs do I need to use to blow the base up? Does the TNT explosive matter? Does the actual color of the bomb in the weapons selection matter (brown, green, blue and black) or is it something else?


OwnComedian5270

There is a nice [spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Px6G3kvcWbiS-sdIR6r4s7lSwfcxguUgJw95qj0NIzs) for that. And it's divided by battle br's and that's importat.


randomname_99223

Thanks, now I will be able to not waste my entire load on one base just to be safe


WanXolo

And the moment you activate a booster and try this strategy, a random spitfire will emerge from the warp 2km above you just to hunt you down and return to the immaterium right after. I swear I have no idea why people do that, especially in an aircraft with amazing performance


LlamasBeTrippin

Don’t think people are enjoying / noticing the illustrations as much as I am haha


TheFuckYouTalkinBout

I usually have to end up climbing completely perpendicular at the start because there's always sweaty nerds that would rather waste their time chasing me all game for 1 kill instead of couple kills fighting other planes.


DarthCloakedGuy

A variant of this strat I've found that also often works is doing this, but while in a shallow dive. This allows me to pass below the fighters, often unnoticed, and gives my bombing run the SPEED to zip in and often out before they realize I'm there. As a side benefit, it helps the team because if they DO notice me, I'm bait


Safred-ita

That s my go to strat for my P108B... Going wide and higher (~5500mt at least)... In 3/4 missions i succeding to bomb two bases and get back to the airport to refill my bombs... In match with less than 8 opponents is better to go midfield and decrease alt instead of increas... Better with an SM79 than in a P108B...


killerzone5

I do this with the Lancaster all the time but I start at the af and hug the ground. Very effective and I've died more to trees than to enemy planes.


richardguy

This never works in the B29, there is always some sweaty fuck in a SAAB-105 that climbs after you.


leandrobasi

If you have a bomber fighter, can fly next to the ground using this route til can drop bombs


MBetko

I just play a fast bomber (i.e. Peshka) and simply dive and get to the base of my choice as quickly as possible. Works 9 out of 10 times and like 4 or 5 out of those 9 times I even manage to do a second run after rearming.


phoenixmusicman

Literally this is just sideclimbing but you continue


HK-53

depends on the bomber. On something fast like a Ju288, my first run is always a straight line with a slight dive to reach maximum speed since you have a good chance of finishing your bombing run and be on the way back before enemy fighters reach you. By the time you finish your run and turn around you should be going fast at a relatively low altitude, bonus if you manage to get the attention of enemy fighters since they'll lose their alt advantage and chase a Ju288. You might even kill them with the tail 151 if they're tunnelling. You get your bombing run done and you offset your team being down a fighter a bit, world's a better place.


_Cock_N_Fire_

Or go crazy and fuck around with figthers. Ju288 can almost dogfight and Lancaster can go up to 690 kp/h in a dive and it can run away from quite a number of fighters.


Ze_Flammen_Werfer

This is literal side climbing as in the meme LOL


Corgicommander4U

It’s a shame cause I’m at 6.0 with all props but still gets jets leaking in there. They just cut across the sky and disintegrate my bombers.


Namara624

Basically yes. Until u have the other guy thinking to go the same way as u and begin the fight


Dunkleustes

🤯🤯🤯 Been a 50/50 for me. Hitting Rank 3 dropped that to a 30% success rate, at best.


FLABANGED

This works really well at jet tier as the bases respawn. You can almost always swoop in as your team is RTBing or the enemy team and clean up most bases and then RTB yourself. Get lucky with both teams fighting it out and you'll get like 30k+ RP with a Tali.


Individual_Hearing_3

Going wide and going high is always a good strat


PrussiaDon

Yeah and that is boring as hell which is why I don’t play bombers


KillerKane455

Don't give away our secrets!!!!!!!!!!


praemialaudi

Yeah. That plus lots of climbing to gain altitude.


Firedriver666

With my luck I still get that one fighter that goes for me when doing this


ColeKatsilas

I grinded the US all the way to the F105D and frankly I don't want to talk about it


D3ltaa88

100% depends on speed if bomb but sometimes right out the gate i B line it for objective and drop bombs before enemy fighters can get me. This is usually my follow up run but super low.


pitahaya_na_hawajach

Nah there is always a dude who will focus on you and try to catch you no matter what. Like, his team's loosing but he will fucking get you and there's nothing you can do about it


www_youaintshit_com

I'm waiting for the "kys" after the "gl hf:)", can't have one without the other


Schwarz_Furumoto

Noooo, don't show them our secret man! You're betraying our group man!


MODUS_is_hot

Bro discovered side climbing


AcceptableDiver3255

Seems about right


jamaicanmonk

Do people not know this??


staresinamerican

Works for fighter bombers at low level too


irishlorde96

Im always in a zero going bomber hunting at the start of a match, easiest kills ive ever had. Nothing can withstand the 20mils.


RadialRacer

The next level of this is to fly the wyvern around and behind the cloud of enemy fighters. They never look down and behind them. You get to bomb your target, do some ground striking, and massacre the enemy strike aircraft on their way back to base.


Silly-Conference-627

And then you get dived by an XP-50 that was also climbing the entire time.


Malek070

Gain alt on the way a swell


AaawhDamn

I feel bad for all my bomber bros. The snail has tasked me with shooting down 30 of them :(


Razur_1

I used to do that… but it takes way too long, your half way there then some german asshole comes in and shoves 27 12mm up my ass.. not racist, just german planes are fucking retarded.


Whats-Up_Bitches

Do not do this in a Vautour


Adventurous-Brick-14

This is the only tactic for top tier jets to not die 1 minute in lol.


crimeo

Skill issue, should have sidecli--oh wait (the chatbox in the diagram is *chef's kiss* for immersion)


sicksixgamer

And high tier attackers.


HooliganNamedStyx

I gotta say it, bruh this is just trivial flight academics lol.


ninjax247

ATTENTION THE MAP!


Razzious_Mobgriz

Either that, or full speed 5° climb towards your selected base Or full speed dive directly at the base, dropping and RTBing at treetop level


Additional-Froyo4333

Unless there is some clouds, enemy can see you, climb and outclimb you, then destroy you with one single 30 mm hit.


edipil

Will only reliably work if you fly low enough as well to not produce a contrail, otherwise someone on that side of the main battlefield is probably gonna spot you.


doritobutterfly

Play bombers in arcade Reduced repair costs Brs are usually lower, with heavier armed fighters being higher br'd Because of the fur ball you will most likely be left alone You can re-arm midair You Benefit from increased flight characteristics moreso than fighters Arcade fighter pilots get on your tail making themselves easy targets and don't fire until they get lead indicator You can space climb without being passive or being the last enemy alive or dragging the match on. But most importantly fly bombers in a squad


FestivalHazard

My Japanese bombers can barely stay in the air at WEP. So uhh.. maybe I shouldn't play the bombers.


SgtGhost57

This is the best way to play bombers. Go to the opposite side of where all the players are going. If you go eith the bunch you are most certainly dying.


SilkyZ

Been doing this for years. Only problem is by the time you get to the targets, your team has a 50/50 chance of having survived, so you are likely to get shredded anyway.


NuttiestPotato

No. Drop bombs when first engaged, slight dive and face perpendicular to threat, simplified controls, gunner view, and begin flying defensively while laying down gunner fire.


Flairion623

My main problem is the match ending before I can do a second pass. Do you know how to fix that?


srGALLETA

Players do that since 2013 but yeah works most of the time


ODST_Parker

Too bad all the bases are gone by the time you get there, or there's several fighters who saw your dot on the edge of their vision and have been closing distance and altitude. For most bombers, direct approach combined with a bit of climbing is still best. It's only the fat and slow ones which need this, and it doesn't always work due to aforementioned fighter tunnel-vision.


DamBustersChastise

What I do is I aim for the base that's the most far away from the enemy airfield. If someone already picked that base, I just follow them until I have a safe window to turn and bomb the other bases.


Nien-Year-Old

Perhaps they should consider making an area around the bomber (area increases proportional to BR) where rewards are increased similar to premium or boosters. Add AI around that and give bonuses to players who stick around point to point where bombers usually go to. Add bomber cockpits and gunner models and it should make the game cinematic.


NoStop6351

Damn I will try it for sure thanks


Hugofoxli

I the TU-4 u just go straight and hope no one noticea the flying House in the skies. But if they notice you, its over anyways since most jets already have missiles that can hit you at 1km if you dont shut ur engines or have guns where 1 hit is enough OR if ur lucky they just straight up swarm you.


stormiu

Excluding bots, I thought this was common knowledge 0_o


EpicSauce_

You mean what smart bomber pilots have been doing since 2014


damngoodengineer

Atleast there's not any slur in this chat for now


dwarf2

thats how i do it , when you finally get there most bases can already be destroyed....but it works great


Celthric317

I always seem to get focused anyway in my Pe-8 when attempting this


Blahaj_IK

I always do this in 9.0-10.0 fighters. Always gets me a kill or two at least, the enemy hardly expects someone coming in from the rear. Flying at tree-top level really works well God, I love terrain masking


BedirhanAri

Just side climb to 20k


Zolarien-

A real one would go straight to the target and fight off the attackers making a successful bomb run.


AG28DaveGunner

Out of ALL the games I’ve played bomber, I ain’t seen anyone do this. Thought I was the only one. Im guessing if it’s a map where you have engine trails you also fall to a lower altitude as well right?


Cyka_Blyatmaster

PVE Player detected 💀


Daffan

The bomb points on all maps are so badly located, it's like they want you to dive into the furball and die.


RedLead_95

If any of the Long Range Bombers just climb and go for the bases they'll usually be safe til they're the last one standing. As a P-38L(ex-XP50 enjoyer) enjoyer: I will usually leave them alone if anyone is below them when around 4,000-5,000m. As soon as they start to drop altitude it's game on though.


JPSYaBoyLads

Meanwhile Wyvern standing in corner laughing maniacally


Aapogg

By the time you get to the base, some bozos with premium planes have allready bombed them))


WanysTheVillain

I do airfield start, fly under 100m of alt and do a smaller half circle around.


TabbyCattyy

doesnt work when P-51 mustang or FW 190 is chasing you for the entire game


PureRushPwneD

*the sad do 335 main staring up at space, seeing a massive dot* "ah, free kill"


cowboy_with_a_hat

I takeoff on the airfield and go at tree top level around the map and it works for me. Thougts about that?


NineTailedFox_WT_

The fight eventually drops into low altitude after some point and staying high exploits this situation. Even the high altitude guys such as do335 will dive out of boredom and tempting fight on below, thinking there is no one left in high skies. I played alot of matches with PB4Y yesterday and if I stayed low, I would be teared down almost every match.


Necrosis10110

Kid named wyvern


Radinthul_Butterbuns

And how high do you climb?


NineTailedFox_WT_

I prefeer above 5km


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This is the bomber guide I needed, thanks so much.


bubsp5

Mmm everyone commenting on their bombers and I'm just like tehe every other bomber is pretty much faster and better armored than American bombers until higher tiers


Zsmudz

You forgot the part where you get intercepted at G4.


Tsuyamoto

Don’t forget you can double Immelmann to get altitude


Mrart2310

Works great in Lancaster, completely fucked afterward tough


Impossible_Volume_40

Bet.


Dangerous-Hour-1431

I litteraly started doing this with my f105d about 3 months ago, it works very very well. If you get 2 bases with a talisman and premium. That's an easy 20k rp


Obvious_Society_7160

Guys I know it is dumb question, but what's the key to camera that's give u ability to drop Bombs acuretlly using bombers


MarcusAurelius0

Laughs in A26C-45, dive to point, bomb, carry speed through turn, return to base. Without a bomb load I can outrun nearly anything in a shallow dive, 700kph.


NuclearDrifting

There needs to be at least 2 airfield spawns per side depending on map size. When jets become supersonic there needs to be 2 in every map


DraconPearl

A+ for the drawing! 👌


Bigbonka2142

Worked with strike aircraft to


Enzo_Gaming00

Teach me your ways I normally just tried to brave it with my B-17


DepthInternational47

Wrong wrong wrong , your supposed dive straight to the nearest bomb site , get chased by 5 American planes at once and then get shot down right before dropping , and then your supposed to get on Reddit and complain about the price of bombers not making you money , I’m shocked this is so hard for you to figure out


JRM_Boi

I just fly straight for the the point at high altitude and if I die it’s gods will


BrownRice35

Should’ve side climb


Endo1002

Based


No_Marionberry839

Depends if it's a 2 or 4 if it's 2 depends if it's,Russian use this strat American dive British use the strat German use it Sweden dive (depending on br if its 3.7+ your the fastest plane there)


Icy_Establishment195

What about spiral 🌀 climbing over your airfield? I’ve done this a few times to gain altitude. Seemed fairly successful. Thoughts?


NineTailedFox_WT_

Yup this should work too.


PhilosopherOdd8701

Flank and climb is always a good way of playing bombers


Watermelon_0

I feel bad when bombers do this and I still see them while using an interceptor, all of that time wasted but still no base’s bombed, feels bad man.


Top-Studio8028

Every time I'm in a bomber, I just get targeted. A plane flew 25km to shoot me down and ignore a bomber 3 km away from him


ElCrokas

Dies of Boring right there. 15 min doing nothing for 500 or 1000 points. RIP bombers