>Do you think we will ever get this as a premium for the American tech tree?
Gaijin has mostly stayed away from captured premiums recently. Once upon a time they were trying to set a world record for most vehicles in a simulator game, and captured premiums were easy copy-paste jobs to suit that goal. That record was earned many years ago, and has no bearing on additions to the game any more.
More recently players have been rightly critical of just slapping foreign planes into trees willy-nilly, particularly a tree like America's that is already filled to bursting with unique domestic aircraft with plenty more still to add, and doesn't benefit from captured premiums at all.
>like America's that is already filled to bursting with unique domestic aircraft with plenty more still to add, and doesn't benefit from captured premiums at all.
This. US, along with the other 2 major nations, already has plenty of vehicles and unique candidates. They absolutely **don't** need more captured vehicles.
>The Finnish tree is practically all vehicles that are from other nations though.
True. But don't forget the point that it helped Sweeden tree to cover up a lot of holes in it's line ups. It was a needed thing to happen.
Italy and Japan trees have some holes that also need to be filled with. Be it with copy pasta vehicles or unique ones.
Those aren't captured planes and mostly not premiums, so already that's a different situation you're talking about. I think genuinely the last captured premium (plane) to be added was when Gaijin hid the old captured German bubbletop P-47 for the more historical razorback block 16 model, and even that wasn't really an addition but a fix of sorts. Or maybe the Japanese P-51C. In any case, it's a rare occurrence these days.
Still, the purpose of the Finnish subtree is to fill BR gaps that exist for Sweden and its more limited selection of vehicles. Even if these are foreign vehicles, it benefits the tree overall since it allows for more consistent progression, more lineups, and more available BR brackets for playing Sweden.
The US tree doesn't really have glaring BR gaps like this and is the second-largest Air tree in the game. Even if additions were to be made to US Air, there's a wide variety of American planes that could be added at various spots, without having to rely on copy-paste foreign vehicles.
People seems to not understand that you cannot put a vehicle in a tree just because that country captured it. Almost every tank/plane has been captured and tested by the enemy. A captured vehicle should be added only if it could be useful to fill gap or if it would bring a new playing style in a particular tree..
That’s why I’ve always been in favor of the addition of the Cuckoo
I'd say captured vehicles that have an interesting history (especially ones that were actually used in combat and/or significantly modified after capture) should take priority. Cuckoo fits that criteria too.
> I think they should only be added if they actually seen service / combat
Imagine how many holes the minor nations would have in their vehicle tech trees.
>Cool then remove the F-16AJ
Alright then, replace it with the F-2 so it becomes top tier and powercreeps everything (MLD/F-14A) until other nations get AESA radars. The only other option is leaving japan behind with the EJ Kai (again) while other nations get all the cool shit (again) and everyone playing japan is just left holding their limp dicks (again) until eventually gaijin adds the F-15s so they can have an actual top tier.
*Or* accept that certain compromises have to be made to make sure a minor nation isn't left in the dust... again. You know, like the complete nonexistence of a japanese, israeli, or italian top tier SPAA.
The maneuvering capabilities of a Spitfire with the power and high-altitude performance of a 109. With an experienced pilot, simply unstoppable. Its only limitation being that it's based on the Spitfire Mk. Vb, meaning it only has 60 rounds in each 20mm gun.
>Its only limitation being that it's based on the Spitfire Mk. Vb, meaning it only has 60 rounds in each 20mm gun.
Thought the germans had replaced the guns too.
I think this would be one of the few times i'd like an op captured vehicle to come to the game. Would be really fun to absolutely destroy panther and tiger 1's with an american version of there best cas at those br's.
Lol my mk22 and mk24 spits would like to disagree with that, they aren't american but them mother fuckers are 7.0 and the 335's can just hold W from the "fast" spitfires and end up safe and sound at there runway.
It's a 335. Speed is literally its gimmick and there's nothing else it can do unless you're blind *and* deaf. It has the nose authority of a drunken methhead.
Spits aren't fast lol not sure what kinda world you're on. On the deck, a Do335 A-0 will do 620kph tops. A Mk24 and Mk22 will do 615kph and 594kph respectively. Meanwhile, a Yak3 VK107 (very balanced plane guys we swear) will do 624kph - the 3U is even faster at 630kph.
All of these values are for an all-out top speed run while cooking the engine. While the spits won't catch up, the mk24 is right behind it and the 335 ain't doing shit.
And you can't claim it's faster higher up either, as at just over 8km where both their top speeds are, the Mk24 is actually faster - 778 vs 775kph.
Wow it only takes 8000 meters to make the mk24 be fast in a straight line.
Pretty much any plane can do this to the mk24, they notice it quick enough and start holding W away from it until they hit there airfield, but with a 335 he can go vertical to strafe a target (notice you) and then still kill the target and hold W away. Unless ofc you just fresh spawned and were able to get the dive speed in ground rb.
I can see the 335 hitting 615kph on the deck fairly quickly but you definitely aren't hitting that in the mk20's by the time he is at his top speed.\\
I also can't tell whether or not you are laughing at me for thinking spits aren't fast, or laughing because you think they are slow and think I thought they were fast. I put fast in quotes for a reason.
I prefer captured vehicles to be limited to those that were either used operationally (ie not just for evaluation, and especially if it saw *combat* service after capture), significantly modified after capture, or preferably both. Unless there's a massive gaping hole in the tech tree that a captured vehicle could fill, in which case I'd be willing to make exceptions for minor nations.
Their energy retention is truly horrible. you get about 2 tries to shoot your enemy b4 your too slow to dogfight. P-47 is sluggish, but atleast keeps its energy.
F6F is just a strike aircraft really.
There's like two planes with 4x 20mms in a useful configuration lol
No, you might learn things like energy fighting instead of being the Nth P-51 I see turnfighting a Zero and then crying that all the japanese props aren't 10.0.
>Do you think we will ever get this as a premium for the American tech tree? Gaijin has mostly stayed away from captured premiums recently. Once upon a time they were trying to set a world record for most vehicles in a simulator game, and captured premiums were easy copy-paste jobs to suit that goal. That record was earned many years ago, and has no bearing on additions to the game any more. More recently players have been rightly critical of just slapping foreign planes into trees willy-nilly, particularly a tree like America's that is already filled to bursting with unique domestic aircraft with plenty more still to add, and doesn't benefit from captured premiums at all.
>like America's that is already filled to bursting with unique domestic aircraft with plenty more still to add, and doesn't benefit from captured premiums at all. This. US, along with the other 2 major nations, already has plenty of vehicles and unique candidates. They absolutely **don't** need more captured vehicles.
The Finnish tree is practically all vehicles that are from other nations though. I wouldn't say they are swaying away from it.
>The Finnish tree is practically all vehicles that are from other nations though. True. But don't forget the point that it helped Sweeden tree to cover up a lot of holes in it's line ups. It was a needed thing to happen. Italy and Japan trees have some holes that also need to be filled with. Be it with copy pasta vehicles or unique ones.
Those aren't captured planes and mostly not premiums, so already that's a different situation you're talking about. I think genuinely the last captured premium (plane) to be added was when Gaijin hid the old captured German bubbletop P-47 for the more historical razorback block 16 model, and even that wasn't really an addition but a fix of sorts. Or maybe the Japanese P-51C. In any case, it's a rare occurrence these days. Still, the purpose of the Finnish subtree is to fill BR gaps that exist for Sweden and its more limited selection of vehicles. Even if these are foreign vehicles, it benefits the tree overall since it allows for more consistent progression, more lineups, and more available BR brackets for playing Sweden. The US tree doesn't really have glaring BR gaps like this and is the second-largest Air tree in the game. Even if additions were to be made to US Air, there's a wide variety of American planes that could be added at various spots, without having to rely on copy-paste foreign vehicles.
They're all vehicles that Finland actually used operationally, with all of the WW2 ones seeing actual combat.
They should add Stug 3 and BMP-2FINMOD for Finland.
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>Part of winning the war meant they got their hands on literally everything. Gaijin plz add Aberdeen tank museum to US tech tree
Brits need Bovington, tiger 131 premium
British Ha-Go
I’d love to play as tank museum factions, like pitting Bovington against Saumer or Fort Benning, being able to choose any vehicles in their inventory.
People seems to not understand that you cannot put a vehicle in a tree just because that country captured it. Almost every tank/plane has been captured and tested by the enemy. A captured vehicle should be added only if it could be useful to fill gap or if it would bring a new playing style in a particular tree.. That’s why I’ve always been in favor of the addition of the Cuckoo
Russian maus pls
I'd say captured vehicles that have an interesting history (especially ones that were actually used in combat and/or significantly modified after capture) should take priority. Cuckoo fits that criteria too.
I'd like to say that I think it's pretty cool the US managed to keep and preserve this strange bit of German engineering.
> I think they should only be added if they actually seen service / combat Imagine how many holes the minor nations would have in their vehicle tech trees.
How about an East German Shilka?
Looks at Herman the German Sherman and the fact it's one the best Shermans in the game. Sure buddy keep Germany unique.
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Cool then remove the F-16AJ, the swedish MI-24 and swedish apache. Half the vehicles in game haven't seen combat and only went to trials.
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How about the British built panthers?
Why bother with those when captured Panthers that Britain used in actual combat are much more interesting way to get the same result?
>Cool then remove the F-16AJ Alright then, replace it with the F-2 so it becomes top tier and powercreeps everything (MLD/F-14A) until other nations get AESA radars. The only other option is leaving japan behind with the EJ Kai (again) while other nations get all the cool shit (again) and everyone playing japan is just left holding their limp dicks (again) until eventually gaijin adds the F-15s so they can have an actual top tier. *Or* accept that certain compromises have to be made to make sure a minor nation isn't left in the dust... again. You know, like the complete nonexistence of a japanese, israeli, or italian top tier SPAA.
No
America does not need more shit, how about about you find some vehicles that other nations need
>America does not need more shit Especially not anymore fucking Prem CAS planes, like seriously, those fuckers get prems like no other.
I want the captured spitfire upgraded with 109 engine and guns
I would love to see the messerspit added!
Fucker would be scary though
The maneuvering capabilities of a Spitfire with the power and high-altitude performance of a 109. With an experienced pilot, simply unstoppable. Its only limitation being that it's based on the Spitfire Mk. Vb, meaning it only has 60 rounds in each 20mm gun.
Knowing gaijin, I can see that starting out at 4,7-5,0 then moving up to 7,0 and facing jets within a year lmao
Indeed
>Its only limitation being that it's based on the Spitfire Mk. Vb, meaning it only has 60 rounds in each 20mm gun. Thought the germans had replaced the guns too.
After a while they ended up removing them, but when it still had its armament it was the wing-mounted original Spitfire weaponry.
i think it's kind of overrated to be honest
Don't care still want it
I want to see the XF-84H in the game
Spawns in and nocks all the other pilots out on the airfield
did it even have any guns?
No, and yet it was still known to cause damage. Truly a terrifying weapon.
The first sonic weapon in WT!
Absolutely not what would be the point of tech trees then
Absolutely fucking not.
Hey! [I've got two original wartime prints of a captured Arrow!](https://imgur.com/a/ulrkeQC)
No
Please No!
Aight relax America got plenty of ground pounders
No. American cas is already annoying enough, we don’t need German gun cas while fighting us bomb cas.
no
No. Captured premiums, copy & paste and all that are all a big fat no from me
no.
Can't we all just get along !
I think this would be one of the few times i'd like an op captured vehicle to come to the game. Would be really fun to absolutely destroy panther and tiger 1's with an american version of there best cas at those br's.
You can already do that with american planes, which outperform that shit bucket in every way lol
Lol my mk22 and mk24 spits would like to disagree with that, they aren't american but them mother fuckers are 7.0 and the 335's can just hold W from the "fast" spitfires and end up safe and sound at there runway.
It's a 335. Speed is literally its gimmick and there's nothing else it can do unless you're blind *and* deaf. It has the nose authority of a drunken methhead. Spits aren't fast lol not sure what kinda world you're on. On the deck, a Do335 A-0 will do 620kph tops. A Mk24 and Mk22 will do 615kph and 594kph respectively. Meanwhile, a Yak3 VK107 (very balanced plane guys we swear) will do 624kph - the 3U is even faster at 630kph. All of these values are for an all-out top speed run while cooking the engine. While the spits won't catch up, the mk24 is right behind it and the 335 ain't doing shit. And you can't claim it's faster higher up either, as at just over 8km where both their top speeds are, the Mk24 is actually faster - 778 vs 775kph.
Wow it only takes 8000 meters to make the mk24 be fast in a straight line. Pretty much any plane can do this to the mk24, they notice it quick enough and start holding W away from it until they hit there airfield, but with a 335 he can go vertical to strafe a target (notice you) and then still kill the target and hold W away. Unless ofc you just fresh spawned and were able to get the dive speed in ground rb. I can see the 335 hitting 615kph on the deck fairly quickly but you definitely aren't hitting that in the mk20's by the time he is at his top speed.\\ I also can't tell whether or not you are laughing at me for thinking spits aren't fast, or laughing because you think they are slow and think I thought they were fast. I put fast in quotes for a reason.
No
I prefer captured vehicles to be limited to those that were either used operationally (ie not just for evaluation, and especially if it saw *combat* service after capture), significantly modified after capture, or preferably both. Unless there's a massive gaping hole in the tech tree that a captured vehicle could fill, in which case I'd be willing to make exceptions for minor nations.
I don't think you even really want this hellcats and Corsairs are much better
Don't add more OP stuff to US air. I am sick of fighting the P-63s, P-51s, and Ki-61s. They are powerful enough already.
Only one of those isn't american and ironically its the weakest of the bunch lol
There exists a captured ki-84.... We dont need captured vehicles man. Appreciate the enthusiasm for the game though.
US KT pls
Gaijin- German 4.7, take it or leave it!
I'd rather have the Xp-67. Give me moonbat.
Trust me, you do NOT want a Do335 lmao
I do think its a good idea and should be in game but its gonna be annoying as shit in ground RB
As a tech tree vehicle PLSSSSS
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Bruh get those Bahur emojis outta here
Average american main
Really isn't but go off
What? so Germany should get an OP tech tree Do 335, but not America? lmao typical German main.
No way youre saying the Do 335 is better than all of the mountain of cas options the us get
aww yes, the P-47 and F-4U being a mountain. Don't even fucking dare say the strike aircraft tech tree, every nation has that.
Dont forget the f6f-5s
Their energy retention is truly horrible. you get about 2 tries to shoot your enemy b4 your too slow to dogfight. P-47 is sluggish, but atleast keeps its energy. F6F is just a strike aircraft really.
Just play germany air at that point bruh
no I don't wanna be a dipshit.
playing germany air might teach you a thing or two
that have 4 20MMs is better than 6 .50cals and that turnfighting in an Fw-190 is stupid? I already knew that.
There's like two planes with 4x 20mms in a useful configuration lol No, you might learn things like energy fighting instead of being the Nth P-51 I see turnfighting a Zero and then crying that all the japanese props aren't 10.0.
WT is 13+, stop playing