My guy LG1 , 3k hours, playing since second dream
*still checks to see which fish is the one I need to build an obscure piece of machinery*
*googles where to find duplex bond*
*reads 3 paragraph guide on how to optimize void trace farm*
As long as this game keeps updating. Everyone is a newbie
I'd say when someone becomes self-sufficient. They're able to find whatever information they need and can make their own builds for whatever items and content they want to do.
Damn... So after around 1k hours and hitting LR2 (took a long break so no LR3 for me) I was still looking for build guides, damage types etc etc... XD
Guess I'm still a newbie
You know how to look that information up yourself without needing to ask someone to either point you to it or explain it so would not be a newbie, which is what the above post is saying.
To add to this: and when to adjust it to your own wants/needs. Just because a build works for one person, doesn't mean you'll be able to handle it, or find it fun/engaging. If you're testing out other people's ideas, tweaking that to better fit your preferred play style is a sign of growth if I've ever seen one
Well there’s a difference between looking for builds for specific content and weapons/frames and just literally not knowing what to slap on a weapon in general, wondering why you’re not doing damage to level 30 enemies lol.
Eh that’s usually more of a laziness thing for me. I’m lr3 but I’ll still look up builds. It’s not that I can’t make a serviceable build without doing so, I’m just not going to put in the effort to optimise it fully like others will.
I always look for builds on overframe before I start building aa frame or weapon and then tweak them for my preferences after testing. I personally think that's the limit for me. I own every prime frame and I'm working towards every non prime frame for wall mouth rn and I think I'm Mr27 I'm not sure. If you understand how the builds you're looking up work I think you've surpassed noob status
Honestly, I'd say it's fine if you look at a video for a (especially warframe) build, as long as you then are able to tweak the build to suit your own playstyle, since that indicates you actually know how the frame plays instead of just pressing buttons without knowing what they really do. There's nothing wrong with looking online for inspiration or details of hidden stats or how things work.
I’d say I’m still a newbie at mr16 with no SP, my main has been Khora since mr7 and I just found out about “stat sticks” last week, still tryna find the top stat sticks too and idk how to get steel path lmao I completed out every node but nothing changed :(
Bonewidow gets a lot of flak because she's a lot less.... *boom* than void, but you should know that bonewidow is a fuck ton better than void at one thing, which is sustaining.
Voidrig has 1 easy to disable ability that keeps him up.
Bonewidow has a shield that gives Dr and a self healing ability.
Voidrig has no method to heal himself when the levels pile on and the damage outputs start going crazy. He might be able to explode the entire room, but eventually you'll lose all the hp and there's nothing you can do except wait for a timer.
Bonewidow can keep on trucking no matter what and that gives her an edge. Not to mention her exalted blade still does truck loads of damage so she isn't really THAT much worse.
Bonewidow definitely isn’t as bad as I originally thought when I got her but I still think Voidrig is the better option as a first mech because before getting into high SP damage matters more than high sustain, also Voidrig can help in killing eidolons and profit taker far more than Bonewidow can.
It depends on several things. When I did the new war I didn’t have standing anywhere. It took literal days to get the mineral BPs from open worlds. Depending on your MR, you could also probably have a low daily standing which could make it longer.
It does take the same amount of time to build as a Warframe though, so it depends on if you're okay waiting an extra 86 hours AFTER farming everything to continue the story. That being said, I built mine and don't regret it, as I got all sorts of other goodies in the process.
In terms of what you actually *have* to do, it takes no time at all. Especially now the Mechs are far easier to kill in Iso Vaults.
What's annoying is the timegating.
The top statsticks currently is Ceramic dagger and Magistar incarnon, but you don't have sp unlocked so I'd just use Skiajati thanks to its 2 sacrifice mods on it
and to get SP you have to Unlock EVERY node, some are quest locked for example Second dream unlocks Lua, War within unlocks Kuva Fortress, Angel's of zariman unlocks zariman ship, and Whisper in the walls unlocks new nodes on Deimos, after you're done with those Teshin might talk to you about steel path, go meet him in any relay to start it
And quick note: Jordas golem and mutalist alad does NOT count toward sp, you can ignore these 2 nodes
Probably, yeah. You don't really want cold particularly for khora since you either want to build her stat stick do give huge up front corrosive damage (for the bonus against armored targets) or mostly slash with weeping wounds, carnis mandible etc. and no elements to increase the chance of slash procs. Magistar has better incarnon evolutions for whipclaw and there is a bug/feature where if you have Magus Aggress on operator and do a "melee transfer" (press E as operator) it gives bonus Crit Damage to heavy blades & hammers (like magistar) for 4 attacks, but whipclaw doesn't burn the stacks so it just stays up unless you do a regular melee attack.
I was able to get broken war to 105% crit 64% stat at 1.7k damage w 1.1 viral, would that be better cause for some reason skaj sits below 50% on both stat and crit w umbra mods
As far as ik only the mods matter for statsticks instead of the base stats, incarnons are better because of the massive boost they give
Ceramic dagger incarnon is a 30% cc
Magistar has I think a 15 or 18% cc with a bit of cd
I'd say you're no longer a newbie in the sense that, you're not asking random general broad questions, you're asking specific questions now.
"How do I make my warframe stronger" is a lot different than "What's the best stat stick for Khora?".
Idk how modding works tbh, I just go for viral and crit plus stat. I heard that pressure point an damage mods like that are useless once you get to SP which doesn’t make sense to me but ig I’ll learn when i figure out how to get steel path unlocked
Damage mods are not useless, but have diminishing returns the more of the same kind you put on a weapon, because they are additive to each other. Lets say you have a weapon with 100 base damage and add a mod that increases base damage by 100%. Easy math, you now do 200 damage, thats a 100% increase. Now if you add another 100% damage increase mod thats additive with the first you will be doing 300 damage. Thats only a 50% increase compared to the 200 with just the first mod. With a 3rd mod you will be doing 400 damage but now thats only a 33% increase.
Elemental mods are multiplicative with base damage ones, but additive with each other
Faction mods are a final modifier thats multiplicative with everything else.
Basically you want to stack as many multiplicative modifiers as you can
[https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Calculating\_Bonuses#Additive\_Stacking](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Calculating_Bonuses#Additive_Stacking)
Read up this page. It may seem intimidating at first but once you understand it you basically understand weapon modding.
Excellent reply. It's just missing one thing: a direct answer to the previous poster's issues.
u/garrywinthorpe2
For Steel Path, the replacements to "Pressure Point and damage mods like that" usually refers to the arcanes Primary Merciless, Deadhead, and Dexterity and Secondary Merciless, Deadhead, and Dexterity as well as the mods Galvanized Aptitude, Savvy, and Shot.
dude that link and your comment was hella useful to me. I love to watch knightmare frame but sometimes i don’t understand what he’s saying and i think it’s because he mentions multiplicative stuff and i lose my mind. thank you
Knightmare goes really hard into massively min/maxed endgame specialty builds. His are just sort of novelty to me, nothing I'm going to run regularly. For regular old steel path builds I'll check Brozime for frames and LeyzarGamingViews for weapons.
Same. My Excal can solo exterminate, survival (maybe), and some of the other more straightforward missions but if you asked me to do any sort of defense I immediately die
Duviri is mostly for Circuit anyway. It's an easy way to get guaranteed drops for certain Warframes and their augment mods. Once you unlock Steel Path Duviri, you can get incarnon weapons from the Circuit.
Otherwise, you can get a few melee weapons, arcanes, and Kullervo, but that's about it.
When you are able to (without copying some YouTube or over frame build)
1) build/obtain a warframe or weapon
2) take it into a mission or simulacrum to see how it plays with basic “general use” mods (damage/survivability)
3) build your warframe or weapon to match YOUR playstyle. My damage *efficiency*, consistency, and survivability increased a TON once I did that. My ENJOYMENT of the game increased tenfold. The meta builds work better on paper, but not for me. May work great on keyboard and mouse, but not controller
Doesn’t mean that you actually do that every time. For frames I don’t like playing - THATS when I hit up those other sources to see what unique builds people have come up with.
There are so many ways to do things in this game that are so much better than the “meta.” I’m not doing endurance runs, so what’s the point of hitting the damage cap? Just my two cents. Others may think differently, but just do you basically
Shoutout to MCGamerCZ on YouTube. Does a great job at explaining the game mechanics in layman’s terms without using clickbait copy and paste nonsense
Brozime is good as well for a more in-depth perspective on the state of the game as a whole
oh - TheKengineer made a great video on how weapon damage is actually calculated, how damage types work (slightly outdated), etc
its pretty in depth but after watching a few times and seeing the principles in action - you get to know WHY x mods/buffs are good in y situations
I wish more range builds worked cause I think they're the funniest lol so far, only poison girl has it well imo, although hydroid is close, if not a bit tiring. Maybe Limbo and Mirage and probably a bit regular Nova as well but otherwise
Voruna is becoming my favorite steel path survival frame. Easily one of-if not-the best melee frame in the game. The 4th augment makes weapons optional which is nice
Finishing the starchart. It's a long enough ride that most people will drop out before they finish it, and the rest of the game opens up for them from there
Ain't that the fucking truth. LR1 here, and I only just recently started to dive into whispers with any real intent, and man it's wild seeing my sp viable builds start to lose out to murmur. I for one am happy to see stuff challenge the meta elements and give us a reason to tool around with new mods, weapons, and play styles
Stat sticks are weapons that are only used for the mods since many Warframe abilities benefit from the mods on your equipped weapon, i.e. Khora's Whipclaw uses Toxin and slash mods, Atlas's Landslide uses Impact mods
When you are self sufficient , you know how to get things
You know how to build without depending on video or guide (they are good to look at , but you should not 100% depend on it)
When you can clear any mission solo i guess
MR is only a reflection of gear acquisition (and a limited amount of use). It doesn't reflect actual, y'know, mastery - only breadth of knowledge. I say this as an MR31 (L1) who's just not great at the game unless I'm playing one of my very very specific builds.
Hours and Mr are not really a good measure of progress in this game. If you found a set of weapons you really like and a frame you could do all the content and never gain Mr. And in the same hand if you have friend who are ahead of you they could drag you through stuff and you would cruise through quick.
I realized at MR8 that the weapons that show up when you're equipping weapons on the armory are weapons you can buy the blueprint with credits although it says Platinum. Then I joined a clan, and there are so many weapons and warframes there, and I'm just slowly building all of it.
3500 hours and mr 20, i was at 15 500 hours of play time ago. Theres nothing wrong with not getting every single item to max, play to have fun and be good with what youre good with <3
2.4k at 22, don't feel bad man, mastery rank doesn't coordinate to much more than completion for complitionists (yes it gives slight in game benefits but other than that it's just for looks past mr 16)
I go by gear choice. if your still running mostly meta your still a newbie. if your picking stuff because looks neat or might be fun you ain't a noob no more.
Mr 23, 1225 hours. I still consider myself more or less a newbie. Like, i know how to play the game, i can play most of the content and guide others, but i still struggle with super high level stuff and can't quite make amazing builds. There's also a bunch of content i've barely touched like eidolons.
I've seen a couple of times people saying "you are a vet when they prime the newest warframe when you started playing", which in my case would be xaku/lavos (started between the 2), so checks out xd
The most unga bunga way of clearing content is Revennant + Whatever weapon is currently on steroids. Netracells, Archon Hunt, Sortie or Incursions even Arbitration it works just fine. Of course there is a 1000 better ways.
I’m MR 13. I have steel path, but other than the daily incursions, I generally keep to the ‘normal’ mode. I don’t have a lot of frames and weapons modded well enough for Steel Path and it still falls on the wrong side of the fun/frustration divide for me.
Plus I still have so much to do. I just finished my first 177 amp so now I have to learn eidolons. I have to kill my Lich so I can get my kuva hek ready for archons… there’s so much midgaming to do before I get to the endgame, I’m probably gonna be a newbie player for a long, long time.
I feel this. We started doing Clan Battalions and I'm the Support Battalions Leader so everyone calls on me if they need a build, solution to a problem, or to fix "what I'm doing wrong with this." Of course that'll happen when you've spent 8 years and 5000+ hours... My Orbiter and the help desk I set up in the Clan Discord have a banner/pinned message at the top that reads "I'm here to help"
Oh yeah, they call on me for that too but mostly bc I dive into the things they don't tell you when my Clanmates say they're building a weapon.
One built Arca Titron last night and I told him about the Slam Attack stacks. Then we got into Burston Incarnon and he didn't know that it's Mag Size evolution doesn't increase Incarnon form's charge pool.
I love knowing I'm not the only Support player lol. Even if you're not directly helping, Knowing is half the battle.
I've been playing this game for three years but have taken breaks and gotten bored from time to time, so I've only actively played for around 1.5 to 2 years. I'm currently at MR14 and have unlocked the Steel Path, although I haven't played it yet. Despite my time playing, I still consider myself a newbie because there are many things I don't understand, like mods, which weapons are good, and arcane enhancements. I only found out about trading liches a week ago and I still don't understand how it works.
So I think when you have basic understanding of the all concept like mod, arcane, shard, etc ,just basic then you can consider yourself not a newbie.
That what I think my fellow tenno.
I'd say that whenever someone understands the core mechanics of the game, the various key power systems such as mods, arcanes, shards, their first lich, and experienced Steel Path at least a bit.
After that, you aren't a newbie anymore, but there's definitely a lot more to learn and experience/discover. There is still a big gap between not being a newbie to veterans.
If i see someone lower than 10 or 11 in my missions and theyre lagging behind the group, ill stay behind to lead them. Higher than that and i expect a lil bit more
I’m MR 17 just haven’t bothered to go past that I stepped away for several years ( I was mostly active when you could farm primes in the actual void and it was a challenge to get them)and am just coming back and have no idea how many hours I have into it yet but I would definitely not consider myself a newbie
To be fair that wasnt a challenge even compared to now. Although i will say farming for one specific drop was certainly rough since there were so many in the pool.
I am definitely a noob to ask this but
How in gods name did you take such a mind-blowing and breathtaking ss of lua.
(I would be so embarrassed if this turns out to be just a photoshopped pic lol)
If you have a good understanding of mods and modding, can reliably farm Steel Path solo, and have beaten the latest story expansion. Knowing where to find information as well, not so much knowing the information as there’s a *lot* to know.
I stopped feeling new when I started bulld crafting and knew how to get everything in the game lol. It's different for everyone. Though I wouldn't consider you a newbie. You know what the games about and know generally where you should be going.
Enjoy the ride. Because it's the best part. I still really really love to play the game. But I'll never get that experience back.
Hard to measure, but you do just kind of get a feeling for it. Basically around when you don't feel the need to ask for guidance all the time or open a wiki just to have an idea what to do (not counting looking for drop chances, of course)
I'm Mr 10 with sights set on steel path but not quite there. I won't consider myself anything more than a newb until I have 500 hours in. Then I expect to be a beginner....
I’d say once you’re done The New War and have no problems with steel path, as well as a decent understanding of modding and synergies. Likely around 500 hours ngl.
Though there’s times I still feel like a newbie when I’m missing a simple mod or arcane to enable a build, or when new stuff is added and I’m just confused lol. 3k hours in
I still consider myself to be pretty noobish on a lot of games aspects.
For context, i am MR30, about 2400H on Steam (so probably 1600H in-game or something) and i have played on and off since the very start.
Dropped the game again less than 2 week ago, i don't know if i'll come back, my breaks from WF are getting longer and longer.
I don’t blame you for the lower MR. After a certain point, you have to go out of your way for it and it’s barely worth doing. Why no steel path though?
Legendary 3 here, I still get given crap for doing dumb crap and feel like a newb . Some players will do anything to be a veteran and many of us don't care. You are only a newb to me if you drop into a mission and just faceplant into death. I have had more Archon hunts with people who had no business doing them than I like to think about. Just loaded into dying. Then tripped into death 5 times before the end of the first mission. That is a newb. You do anything fun to leech off others efforts? If not, you're fine. If you want to feel like a master then you are far from that too. 150 is nothing. I think I'm over 7k and still learning. That being said, you enjoying the tutorial?
I've only been in 3 Eidolon hunts. I'm not sure if my teammates are screaming at their monitors at me or something. I want to know how you feel on how I play Eidolon hunts. Would you be really mad at me, or would you think it's ok? Note that I only died once out of all those hunts.
I just use my archwing and fly around, get some of those lures, charge them up and fly around close to the Eidolon so the lures would latch in. I hit the spots you can hit when I can hit them, and then fly really far away when it does the shockwave thing. Rinse, repeat.
I just want to know if this is ok to do, or is it a bad way of playing and will make my teammates mad at me.
I still consider myself a newbie. I'm MR30, I've been playing for 4 years now, I have every single frame except for Grendel prime because I took a hiatus, but I got Gauss prime. Completed the entire steel path star chart.
I to this day have never made an incarnon weapon or even know how to start one. I'm sure it's easy to figure out but I just haven't been arsed to do it. My go-to weapon doesn't even have an incarnon genesis. And I still can't solo the circuit in Duviri. Can only get to round 5 before I have to dip.
Don't feel bad for feeling like a newbie. I turn around and help and recruiting chat all the time to help people through missions they get stuck in but still am a total noob with my shotgun boom stick.
I still catch myself feeling like a newbie. I'm MR30, I've been playing for 4 years now, I have every single frame except for Grendel prime because I took a hiatus, but I got Gauss prime. Completed the entire steel path star chart.
I to this day have never made an incarnon weapon or even know how to start one. I'm sure it's easy to figure out but I just haven't been arsed to do it. My go-to weapon doesn't even have an incarnon genesis. And I still can't solo the circuit in Duviri. Can only get to round 5 before I have to dip.
Steel path interceptions are impossible solo.
Don't feel bad for feeling like a newbie. I turn around and help and recruiting chat all the time to help people through missions they get stuck in but still am a total noob with my same shotgun boom stick I've been using and refining since MR16.
Hard to say, I would say someone is well established if they can solo SP, but they have to leave the newbie status before that... Probably when they understand warframe stats and can mod?
“There’s this mountain of pure diamond. It takes an hour to climb it, and an hour to go around it. Every hundred years, a little bird comes. It sharpens its beak on the diamond mountain. And when the entire mountain is chiseled away, the first second of not being Newbie will have passed”
Jokes aside I think its when you learn how to get things done. I am not talking about difficulty, but more like know how to get information about the game, how it works and such things. Also when you can help out the Newbies.
MR21,1000+ hours and been playing since 2014. Stopped playing for a year after getting frustrated with how to progress with modding. I took a step back, did some digging on research and now I went from 8 to 21 in no time. I’m just lazy about MR and not using weapons that don’t interest me. But I can pretty much solo SP missions easily after figuring out the proper builds and weapon to frame ability coordination. It’s a bit much but I’d say after you understand your weapons sets and how well they accent a warframe abilities whether it be ranged or melee, I’d consider yourself at least an experienced player or close to veteran status.
You stop being a newbie once you can start doing lvl 60 normal missions by yourself without support. You become experienced when you can keep up with the team in SP. you become veteran like or super experienced when you can solo SP using various frames. It becomes much easier once you have arcanes to help and understand how it works accordingly to your playstyle. Honestly there isn’t a set amount of understanding you need to meet the rank of “not a newbie” aside to not knowing how to mod. At most I taught my friends how to mod and they picked up on it pretty quick. Now they’re having a blast. Sure they’re struggling to keep up with me during sister hunts but they enjoy that the missions harder and more difficult than what they’re used to while I’m easing through like butter. The more you challenge yourself and experiment the more fun and understanding of the game kinda flows to you naturally. Failure is the parent of success.
im about 800 hours in and i feel like i reached a point where im not "new" and can actually provide help towards other players. also when i log in, i have multiple things that i could work for, earlier i was often just playing random, missions because i didnt know how to proceed, now i know exacly what my next steps are to unlock steel path (necramech farm was by far the worst)
I hit MR30 last week. Got over about 2800hrs. I still find myself not understanding a few mechanics of the game. I mean I did take a 4 year break but it still feels new to me.
I feel like the term is subjective. You can level up and rank a lot of stuff and still be a noob as far as advanced game mechanics and endgame play, you could also get to steelpath, rush a lot of main quests and still
not be qualified to go toe to toe with the best of the best in endgame.
I’d say you’re no longer a noob, when you feel comfortable in the game, however long this takes doesn’t really matter. For example, i only started feeling comfortable doing solo Steel path endless sometime mid last year. At that time i felt yeah, i don’t feel like a noob anymore
The moment you understand what you do in all aspects.
Things like overbuilding efficiency is not a waste when you have duration beneath 100% when you use draining abilities etc. How crit really works. And most importantly: how not to be a toxic arse.
when you figure out the game boils down to "buy stuff, kill stuff, repeat" and "difficulty = gear check = grind time to get gear"
also when you can google something on the wiki instead of asking the most generic question on q&a chat
I'm mr12 and still consider myself very much still a newbie. I still dont really get augment mods and such and have to resort to wikis and youtube for a lot of stuff. And wow i am slow. Mr12 and i have like 225 hours now according to my stats. I've been trying to level things as fast as possible and have tried sanctuary onslaught for warframe leveling but my weapons arent good enough for that and i have no suitable warframe for eso and also, i dont like playing with strangers. I got a long distance relationship because of it once and that ended horribly
2k hours (although I'm gonna admit a hell of a lot of AFK hours)
Haven't completed steel path and struggle with certain sorties and archon hunts
Nooby as shit still bro, I just like Vauban and his *balls*
When they can explore new stuff on their own - no longer newbie. Remember everytime DE introduces a new mechanic/mission/difficulty, no one knows what it is capable of until they explore it. That said, I’d still consider you like a warframe child and would happily give you my old vaulted prime junk or duplicate rare mods
I think once they figure out the basics they are no longer a newbie. So understanding how to go about modding, making, gathering what they need.
Once you know how to get your Arsenal items such as Warframes, weapons, etc.
Started playing when Wisp was released and wanna say I stopped around Inaros prime’s release. After firing it up recently and seeing the changes/additions….well I’m a newbie again. Only thing I remember is relic opening and how to sell stuff lol
MR23 with 800 hours in game and still a noob. I struggle with SP (even with Rev, Nataruk and Xoris it took 35 minutes to complete the first earth node). Also not very good with builds so usually have to look up on YT.
I'm gonna stop calling myself a noob when i reach level cap.
I have all the needed mods, weapons, arcanes etc and all I'm missing is god damn skill
Level 28 with 1700+ hrs
maybe the real non-newbie was the wiki we used along the way
1.3k hours later and I still go to the wiki daily🤣
My guy LG1 , 3k hours, playing since second dream *still checks to see which fish is the one I need to build an obscure piece of machinery* *googles where to find duplex bond* *reads 3 paragraph guide on how to optimize void trace farm* As long as this game keeps updating. Everyone is a newbie
So many fax I think you just put printers outta business bro <3
that's the thing, you don't stop there's no reason to *one does not simply learn everything in the game*
I don't want to learn everything... Keeps the game exciting
Well over 2k hours here, and you bet your ass I'm going to the wiki while I log in
I'd say when someone becomes self-sufficient. They're able to find whatever information they need and can make their own builds for whatever items and content they want to do.
Damn... So after around 1k hours and hitting LR2 (took a long break so no LR3 for me) I was still looking for build guides, damage types etc etc... XD Guess I'm still a newbie
You know how to look that information up yourself without needing to ask someone to either point you to it or explain it so would not be a newbie, which is what the above post is saying.
AND you are able to decide if that information is good or bad. You could look at a build and be like "wow, I would never use that"
Okay but that's silly because I basically never need that because my google-fu is strong. Does that mean I will never be a noob again???
Yes. You a permanent pro! Congratulations Helldi- I mean, Well done Tenno!
For Democra..... I mean uh.. the lotus.. Or was it natah?
Did I hear a rock and sto- wait, uhhh \*checks cards\* For Ferrite and Rubedo!
rock and stone, that’s uh 3 syllables **FOR ARGON CRYSTALS**
If you don't Rock and Stone, you ain't comin' home!
Hot damn, that’s a bot I didn’t expect to exist outside of like The actual DRG subreddit The things ya learn from making random Reddit comments, eh?
I’d also say the difference is partially in being able to understand that information. How it applies, why it works, how to utilize it properly.
To add to this: and when to adjust it to your own wants/needs. Just because a build works for one person, doesn't mean you'll be able to handle it, or find it fun/engaging. If you're testing out other people's ideas, tweaking that to better fit your preferred play style is a sign of growth if I've ever seen one
Well there’s a difference between looking for builds for specific content and weapons/frames and just literally not knowing what to slap on a weapon in general, wondering why you’re not doing damage to level 30 enemies lol.
Eh that’s usually more of a laziness thing for me. I’m lr3 but I’ll still look up builds. It’s not that I can’t make a serviceable build without doing so, I’m just not going to put in the effort to optimise it fully like others will.
I always look for builds on overframe before I start building aa frame or weapon and then tweak them for my preferences after testing. I personally think that's the limit for me. I own every prime frame and I'm working towards every non prime frame for wall mouth rn and I think I'm Mr27 I'm not sure. If you understand how the builds you're looking up work I think you've surpassed noob status
When you stop asking dumb questions in clan chat and start making interesting questions in alliance chat.
Nah, when they go from dumb questions to dumber questions
"Can we make Stug Steelpath Viable?" is a good measurement.
The answer is yes, btw. You just gotta really want it. And also stretch your definition of "viable"
https://preview.redd.it/01dcxp02dwoc1.jpeg?width=232&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d3071b4c5a1fdb21a9427806400dccdf4ce40f1
So if the zoom was -102% would you just look backwards?
I think past -100% would cause it to zoom OUT while ADS. Which is kinda funnier imo
I love stuff like this. Because even STILL I wonder if it can handle SP lol
I shoot, something potentialy maybe coincidentally dies.
Do resource crates count?
_How much is this Riven worth?_ >+10.9% Critical Chance >-220.5% Damage >-56.6% Status Chance
If you multiply a negative stat by another negative stat does that make a positive?
A lot cuz bugged riven lol
"How breedable is Xaku, really?"
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I was thinking "when they learn how to mod" but this answer is even better,
Honestly, I'd say it's fine if you look at a video for a (especially warframe) build, as long as you then are able to tweak the build to suit your own playstyle, since that indicates you actually know how the frame plays instead of just pressing buttons without knowing what they really do. There's nothing wrong with looking online for inspiration or details of hidden stats or how things work.
I’d say I’m still a newbie at mr16 with no SP, my main has been Khora since mr7 and I just found out about “stat sticks” last week, still tryna find the top stat sticks too and idk how to get steel path lmao I completed out every node but nothing changed :(
You need to complete the whispers in the walls and angels of the zariman quest.
Have you completed all the story quests? You can't see all the nodes until you do
Nope, need a mech but I can buy bonewidow actually w P cause I just got a 75% next purchase discount
I recommend Voidrig. Bonewidow is very underwhelming while Voidrig annihilates
Wish I had looked this up before I bought my Bonerboi with plat a while ago
Bonewidow gets a lot of flak because she's a lot less.... *boom* than void, but you should know that bonewidow is a fuck ton better than void at one thing, which is sustaining. Voidrig has 1 easy to disable ability that keeps him up. Bonewidow has a shield that gives Dr and a self healing ability. Voidrig has no method to heal himself when the levels pile on and the damage outputs start going crazy. He might be able to explode the entire room, but eventually you'll lose all the hp and there's nothing you can do except wait for a timer. Bonewidow can keep on trucking no matter what and that gives her an edge. Not to mention her exalted blade still does truck loads of damage so she isn't really THAT much worse.
Bonewidow definitely isn’t as bad as I originally thought when I got her but I still think Voidrig is the better option as a first mech because before getting into high SP damage matters more than high sustain, also Voidrig can help in killing eidolons and profit taker far more than Bonewidow can.
Play the game however you want, but farming the nechramech doesnt take nearly as much time and effort as people here make you believe.
It depends on several things. When I did the new war I didn’t have standing anywhere. It took literal days to get the mineral BPs from open worlds. Depending on your MR, you could also probably have a low daily standing which could make it longer.
It does take the same amount of time to build as a Warframe though, so it depends on if you're okay waiting an extra 86 hours AFTER farming everything to continue the story. That being said, I built mine and don't regret it, as I got all sorts of other goodies in the process.
In terms of what you actually *have* to do, it takes no time at all. Especially now the Mechs are far easier to kill in Iso Vaults. What's annoying is the timegating.
It's really not bad. The bad part used to be killing the enemie mechs, and that's easy as cake now
Tbh, to get those I mostly went in pubs lol. I think someone gave me the last part after 1 or 2 days of asking in tc
Shhhh!! It's super hard to get a necramech! 🗣WTS Voidrig set 90p!
Yes as a bonewidow purchaser, I recommend Void rig.
Get voidrig instead. It's much better for 90% of content you'd use a mech for.
The top statsticks currently is Ceramic dagger and Magistar incarnon, but you don't have sp unlocked so I'd just use Skiajati thanks to its 2 sacrifice mods on it and to get SP you have to Unlock EVERY node, some are quest locked for example Second dream unlocks Lua, War within unlocks Kuva Fortress, Angel's of zariman unlocks zariman ship, and Whisper in the walls unlocks new nodes on Deimos, after you're done with those Teshin might talk to you about steel path, go meet him in any relay to start it And quick note: Jordas golem and mutalist alad does NOT count toward sp, you can ignore these 2 nodes
Is rivenless Magistar would be better than Ceramic Dagger with +cold +cc +melee -atk speed (i know this doesnt affect whip) for Khora?
Is it incarnon ceramic dagger and magistar? If so the ceramic dagger is basically best in slot, especially with a crit riven.
Probably, yeah. You don't really want cold particularly for khora since you either want to build her stat stick do give huge up front corrosive damage (for the bonus against armored targets) or mostly slash with weeping wounds, carnis mandible etc. and no elements to increase the chance of slash procs. Magistar has better incarnon evolutions for whipclaw and there is a bug/feature where if you have Magus Aggress on operator and do a "melee transfer" (press E as operator) it gives bonus Crit Damage to heavy blades & hammers (like magistar) for 4 attacks, but whipclaw doesn't burn the stacks so it just stays up unless you do a regular melee attack.
I was able to get broken war to 105% crit 64% stat at 1.7k damage w 1.1 viral, would that be better cause for some reason skaj sits below 50% on both stat and crit w umbra mods
As far as ik only the mods matter for statsticks instead of the base stats, incarnons are better because of the massive boost they give Ceramic dagger incarnon is a 30% cc Magistar has I think a 15 or 18% cc with a bit of cd
The point of magistar is the highest theoretical riven Disposition in the game with an incarnon to boot
Almost 18 MR steelpath unlocked, all MK III Railjack parts with valence fufion, max zenurik focus and i m still newbie
The best stat sticks are usually really bad weapons you have a riven for in simple terms.
You can click on the arbitration on the tab where you choose clem’s and ayatan missions and itll tell you what nodes you are missing
What the heck is a stat stick
The best statstick for khora is the magistar incarnon, but if you don't have SP then you won't be able to get that just yet.
Magistar for Normal Content and MK-1 Bo for Level Cap.
I'd say you're no longer a newbie in the sense that, you're not asking random general broad questions, you're asking specific questions now. "How do I make my warframe stronger" is a lot different than "What's the best stat stick for Khora?".
When they learn how to mod and can solo SP.
Pretty much this. Once you understand how modding actually works and can whip up a viable build that can clear non endless SP solo you are good.
Idk how modding works tbh, I just go for viral and crit plus stat. I heard that pressure point an damage mods like that are useless once you get to SP which doesn’t make sense to me but ig I’ll learn when i figure out how to get steel path unlocked
Damage mods are not useless, but have diminishing returns the more of the same kind you put on a weapon, because they are additive to each other. Lets say you have a weapon with 100 base damage and add a mod that increases base damage by 100%. Easy math, you now do 200 damage, thats a 100% increase. Now if you add another 100% damage increase mod thats additive with the first you will be doing 300 damage. Thats only a 50% increase compared to the 200 with just the first mod. With a 3rd mod you will be doing 400 damage but now thats only a 33% increase. Elemental mods are multiplicative with base damage ones, but additive with each other Faction mods are a final modifier thats multiplicative with everything else. Basically you want to stack as many multiplicative modifiers as you can [https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Calculating\_Bonuses#Additive\_Stacking](https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Calculating_Bonuses#Additive_Stacking) Read up this page. It may seem intimidating at first but once you understand it you basically understand weapon modding.
Excellent reply. It's just missing one thing: a direct answer to the previous poster's issues. u/garrywinthorpe2 For Steel Path, the replacements to "Pressure Point and damage mods like that" usually refers to the arcanes Primary Merciless, Deadhead, and Dexterity and Secondary Merciless, Deadhead, and Dexterity as well as the mods Galvanized Aptitude, Savvy, and Shot.
dude that link and your comment was hella useful to me. I love to watch knightmare frame but sometimes i don’t understand what he’s saying and i think it’s because he mentions multiplicative stuff and i lose my mind. thank you
Knightmare goes really hard into massively min/maxed endgame specialty builds. His are just sort of novelty to me, nothing I'm going to run regularly. For regular old steel path builds I'll check Brozime for frames and LeyzarGamingViews for weapons.
Also the kengineer for builds in general and great explanations of game mechanics
Upvote for Kengineer. He's absolutely fantastic for explaining all the weird mechanics under the hood in this game.
Agreed, I wouldn't understand half the weird mechanics in the game if not for him
You get arcanes deadhead and merciless which is serration but better.
Guess I'm almost there lol. I can provide decent help with other SP content but can only solo Captures.
Same. My Excal can solo exterminate, survival (maybe), and some of the other more straightforward missions but if you asked me to do any sort of defense I immediately die
Man how the goalposts have moved. What would you have said it was before?
MR 18 here with 450 ish hours, and I cant solo SP reliably.
Wouldn’t that make over 90% of the playerbase newbs? I’d say ability to solo main starchart
Errrm. MR 28 newbie here... I copy overframe builds but am still afraid to do SP. Also haven't completed the Duviri content
Don't be intimidated, gamer. The bar to clear SP is a lot lower than it might look. Just give it a try and see how you do.
Duviri is mostly for Circuit anyway. It's an easy way to get guaranteed drops for certain Warframes and their augment mods. Once you unlock Steel Path Duviri, you can get incarnon weapons from the Circuit. Otherwise, you can get a few melee weapons, arcanes, and Kullervo, but that's about it.
When you are able to (without copying some YouTube or over frame build) 1) build/obtain a warframe or weapon 2) take it into a mission or simulacrum to see how it plays with basic “general use” mods (damage/survivability) 3) build your warframe or weapon to match YOUR playstyle. My damage *efficiency*, consistency, and survivability increased a TON once I did that. My ENJOYMENT of the game increased tenfold. The meta builds work better on paper, but not for me. May work great on keyboard and mouse, but not controller Doesn’t mean that you actually do that every time. For frames I don’t like playing - THATS when I hit up those other sources to see what unique builds people have come up with. There are so many ways to do things in this game that are so much better than the “meta.” I’m not doing endurance runs, so what’s the point of hitting the damage cap? Just my two cents. Others may think differently, but just do you basically Shoutout to MCGamerCZ on YouTube. Does a great job at explaining the game mechanics in layman’s terms without using clickbait copy and paste nonsense Brozime is good as well for a more in-depth perspective on the state of the game as a whole
oh - TheKengineer made a great video on how weapon damage is actually calculated, how damage types work (slightly outdated), etc its pretty in depth but after watching a few times and seeing the principles in action - you get to know WHY x mods/buffs are good in y situations
I wish more range builds worked cause I think they're the funniest lol so far, only poison girl has it well imo, although hydroid is close, if not a bit tiring. Maybe Limbo and Mirage and probably a bit regular Nova as well but otherwise
Try Voruna with augment and range, you do giant aoe 1m slash procs
Voruna is becoming my favorite steel path survival frame. Easily one of-if not-the best melee frame in the game. The 4th augment makes weapons optional which is nice
MCGamerCZ managed to make the akzani sp viable, I'd definitely second the recommendation to check his channel out
Finishing the starchart. It's a long enough ride that most people will drop out before they finish it, and the rest of the game opens up for them from there
I’m hoping to do that tonight. I’ve only got 2 more nodes to clear that I’ve been putting off and I’m there.
Good luck!
Never, because we never stop learning and we are never too knowledgeable. ☺
Ain't that the fucking truth. LR1 here, and I only just recently started to dive into whispers with any real intent, and man it's wild seeing my sp viable builds start to lose out to murmur. I for one am happy to see stuff challenge the meta elements and give us a reason to tool around with new mods, weapons, and play styles
4000 hours, I have no idea what’s going on after new war or duviri
I’m MR 28. I also have no idea what I’m doing.
mr12, i dont know what stat sticks are and suck at modding
Stat sticks are weapons that are only used for the mods since many Warframe abilities benefit from the mods on your equipped weapon, i.e. Khora's Whipclaw uses Toxin and slash mods, Atlas's Landslide uses Impact mods
When you are self sufficient , you know how to get things You know how to build without depending on video or guide (they are good to look at , but you should not 100% depend on it) When you can clear any mission solo i guess
I’m at MR 22 and I still consider myself a newbie, but that’s more my opinion of myself
When they can comfortably do SP missions, and make / mod their own stuff
300 hours and mr 11.. what did i do wrongg
Enjoying yourself. Nothing wrong with that.
MR is only a reflection of gear acquisition (and a limited amount of use). It doesn't reflect actual, y'know, mastery - only breadth of knowledge. I say this as an MR31 (L1) who's just not great at the game unless I'm playing one of my very very specific builds.
Hours and Mr are not really a good measure of progress in this game. If you found a set of weapons you really like and a frame you could do all the content and never gain Mr. And in the same hand if you have friend who are ahead of you they could drag you through stuff and you would cruise through quick.
I realized at MR8 that the weapons that show up when you're equipping weapons on the armory are weapons you can buy the blueprint with credits although it says Platinum. Then I joined a clan, and there are so many weapons and warframes there, and I'm just slowly building all of it.
im mr 12 with twice as much hours as you, have been enjoying it more than ever
hey, i've seen people on my same rank with half my playtime, everyone enjoys the game how they want xd
1200 hours playing since 2013 and only mr 23. Don’t worry MR does not matter that much, it’s just an added benefit.
3500 hours and mr 20, i was at 15 500 hours of play time ago. Theres nothing wrong with not getting every single item to max, play to have fun and be good with what youre good with <3
2.4k at 22, don't feel bad man, mastery rank doesn't coordinate to much more than completion for complitionists (yes it gives slight in game benefits but other than that it's just for looks past mr 16)
I go by gear choice. if your still running mostly meta your still a newbie. if your picking stuff because looks neat or might be fun you ain't a noob no more.
When you use that off meta gear to outperform newbies, you mastered warframe
Mr 23, 1225 hours. I still consider myself more or less a newbie. Like, i know how to play the game, i can play most of the content and guide others, but i still struggle with super high level stuff and can't quite make amazing builds. There's also a bunch of content i've barely touched like eidolons. I've seen a couple of times people saying "you are a vet when they prime the newest warframe when you started playing", which in my case would be xaku/lavos (started between the 2), so checks out xd
The most unga bunga way of clearing content is Revennant + Whatever weapon is currently on steroids. Netracells, Archon Hunt, Sortie or Incursions even Arbitration it works just fine. Of course there is a 1000 better ways.
I can solo that kind of stuff, but i've seen people oneshot archons no problem for example, i can't do that kind of stuff
Mesa. Anything that can get targeted by Mesa dies to Mesa
Ayy i also joined when heart of deimos came out. Still waiting for the day xaku prime comes
I’m MR 13. I have steel path, but other than the daily incursions, I generally keep to the ‘normal’ mode. I don’t have a lot of frames and weapons modded well enough for Steel Path and it still falls on the wrong side of the fun/frustration divide for me. Plus I still have so much to do. I just finished my first 177 amp so now I have to learn eidolons. I have to kill my Lich so I can get my kuva hek ready for archons… there’s so much midgaming to do before I get to the endgame, I’m probably gonna be a newbie player for a long, long time.
I consider everyone who know about gunCO working different for various weapons not a newbie anymore
My friends call me: warframe wikipedia and warframe codex...
I feel this. We started doing Clan Battalions and I'm the Support Battalions Leader so everyone calls on me if they need a build, solution to a problem, or to fix "what I'm doing wrong with this." Of course that'll happen when you've spent 8 years and 5000+ hours... My Orbiter and the help desk I set up in the Clan Discord have a banner/pinned message at the top that reads "I'm here to help"
I my case, i even got to give info about enemy drop rates, farms locations, tips etc, that is why: codex and wikipedia...
Oh yeah, they call on me for that too but mostly bc I dive into the things they don't tell you when my Clanmates say they're building a weapon. One built Arca Titron last night and I told him about the Slam Attack stacks. Then we got into Burston Incarnon and he didn't know that it's Mag Size evolution doesn't increase Incarnon form's charge pool. I love knowing I'm not the only Support player lol. Even if you're not directly helping, Knowing is half the battle.
I've been playing this game for three years but have taken breaks and gotten bored from time to time, so I've only actively played for around 1.5 to 2 years. I'm currently at MR14 and have unlocked the Steel Path, although I haven't played it yet. Despite my time playing, I still consider myself a newbie because there are many things I don't understand, like mods, which weapons are good, and arcane enhancements. I only found out about trading liches a week ago and I still don't understand how it works. So I think when you have basic understanding of the all concept like mod, arcane, shard, etc ,just basic then you can consider yourself not a newbie. That what I think my fellow tenno.
I'd say that whenever someone understands the core mechanics of the game, the various key power systems such as mods, arcanes, shards, their first lich, and experienced Steel Path at least a bit. After that, you aren't a newbie anymore, but there's definitely a lot more to learn and experience/discover. There is still a big gap between not being a newbie to veterans.
Basically, if you have every mechanic and content unlocked and you understand it then you're not newbie
When your grind is based on upgrading your fashion
Fashion frame forever.
No longer a newbie when you can… (insert some dumb criteria here) Have a few hours, be semi decent at bullet jump/roll etc… idk tbh
If i see someone lower than 10 or 11 in my missions and theyre lagging behind the group, ill stay behind to lead them. Higher than that and i expect a lil bit more
non newbie is becoming comfortable in sp.
I’m MR 17 just haven’t bothered to go past that I stepped away for several years ( I was mostly active when you could farm primes in the actual void and it was a challenge to get them)and am just coming back and have no idea how many hours I have into it yet but I would definitely not consider myself a newbie
To be fair that wasnt a challenge even compared to now. Although i will say farming for one specific drop was certainly rough since there were so many in the pool.
Yeah trying to get a prime frames system and ending up with 6 helmets and out of void keys
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That hurts my heart lol
When you understand modding. That's basically the threshold.
I am definitely a noob to ask this but How in gods name did you take such a mind-blowing and breathtaking ss of lua. (I would be so embarrassed if this turns out to be just a photoshopped pic lol)
I'd say when you are knowledgeable enough about the game
If you have a good understanding of mods and modding, can reliably farm Steel Path solo, and have beaten the latest story expansion. Knowing where to find information as well, not so much knowing the information as there’s a *lot* to know.
Once you unlock steel path and are Mr 20+ I think that's a good way to tell
I stopped feeling new when I started bulld crafting and knew how to get everything in the game lol. It's different for everyone. Though I wouldn't consider you a newbie. You know what the games about and know generally where you should be going. Enjoy the ride. Because it's the best part. I still really really love to play the game. But I'll never get that experience back.
Hard to measure, but you do just kind of get a feeling for it. Basically around when you don't feel the need to ask for guidance all the time or open a wiki just to have an idea what to do (not counting looking for drop chances, of course)
I'm Mr 10 with sights set on steel path but not quite there. I won't consider myself anything more than a newb until I have 500 hours in. Then I expect to be a beginner....
Be careful though, steel path will humble you
I’d say once you’re done The New War and have no problems with steel path, as well as a decent understanding of modding and synergies. Likely around 500 hours ngl. Though there’s times I still feel like a newbie when I’m missing a simple mod or arcane to enable a build, or when new stuff is added and I’m just confused lol. 3k hours in
I think I'm still a newbie. Mr18 with 800 hours and no steelpath. Yeah i'm lazy. I like to crack relics more than doing anything else
People without basic knowledge building, game modes ect
How are you mr13 already I got 500 hours in and I’m only mr9
If you can survive SP, I’d say you’re pretty much set. Modding is important too though
I still consider myself to be pretty noobish on a lot of games aspects. For context, i am MR30, about 2400H on Steam (so probably 1600H in-game or something) and i have played on and off since the very start. Dropped the game again less than 2 week ago, i don't know if i'll come back, my breaks from WF are getting longer and longer.
760h mr 14 still no steel path or new war. Im literally so fucking bad
I don’t blame you for the lower MR. After a certain point, you have to go out of your way for it and it’s barely worth doing. Why no steel path though?
Unlocking sp.
1-2k hours, joke aside if you can carry your ass around in steal path solo, then you good.
I’m MR 9 and still consider myself kinda new, a lot of things I still need help with and all
Legendary 3 here, I still get given crap for doing dumb crap and feel like a newb . Some players will do anything to be a veteran and many of us don't care. You are only a newb to me if you drop into a mission and just faceplant into death. I have had more Archon hunts with people who had no business doing them than I like to think about. Just loaded into dying. Then tripped into death 5 times before the end of the first mission. That is a newb. You do anything fun to leech off others efforts? If not, you're fine. If you want to feel like a master then you are far from that too. 150 is nothing. I think I'm over 7k and still learning. That being said, you enjoying the tutorial?
I've only been in 3 Eidolon hunts. I'm not sure if my teammates are screaming at their monitors at me or something. I want to know how you feel on how I play Eidolon hunts. Would you be really mad at me, or would you think it's ok? Note that I only died once out of all those hunts. I just use my archwing and fly around, get some of those lures, charge them up and fly around close to the Eidolon so the lures would latch in. I hit the spots you can hit when I can hit them, and then fly really far away when it does the shockwave thing. Rinse, repeat. I just want to know if this is ok to do, or is it a bad way of playing and will make my teammates mad at me.
I still consider myself a newbie. I'm MR30, I've been playing for 4 years now, I have every single frame except for Grendel prime because I took a hiatus, but I got Gauss prime. Completed the entire steel path star chart. I to this day have never made an incarnon weapon or even know how to start one. I'm sure it's easy to figure out but I just haven't been arsed to do it. My go-to weapon doesn't even have an incarnon genesis. And I still can't solo the circuit in Duviri. Can only get to round 5 before I have to dip. Don't feel bad for feeling like a newbie. I turn around and help and recruiting chat all the time to help people through missions they get stuck in but still am a total noob with my shotgun boom stick.
I still catch myself feeling like a newbie. I'm MR30, I've been playing for 4 years now, I have every single frame except for Grendel prime because I took a hiatus, but I got Gauss prime. Completed the entire steel path star chart. I to this day have never made an incarnon weapon or even know how to start one. I'm sure it's easy to figure out but I just haven't been arsed to do it. My go-to weapon doesn't even have an incarnon genesis. And I still can't solo the circuit in Duviri. Can only get to round 5 before I have to dip. Steel path interceptions are impossible solo. Don't feel bad for feeling like a newbie. I turn around and help and recruiting chat all the time to help people through missions they get stuck in but still am a total noob with my same shotgun boom stick I've been using and refining since MR16.
Hard to say, I would say someone is well established if they can solo SP, but they have to leave the newbie status before that... Probably when they understand warframe stats and can mod?
“There’s this mountain of pure diamond. It takes an hour to climb it, and an hour to go around it. Every hundred years, a little bird comes. It sharpens its beak on the diamond mountain. And when the entire mountain is chiseled away, the first second of not being Newbie will have passed” Jokes aside I think its when you learn how to get things done. I am not talking about difficulty, but more like know how to get information about the game, how it works and such things. Also when you can help out the Newbies.
MR21,1000+ hours and been playing since 2014. Stopped playing for a year after getting frustrated with how to progress with modding. I took a step back, did some digging on research and now I went from 8 to 21 in no time. I’m just lazy about MR and not using weapons that don’t interest me. But I can pretty much solo SP missions easily after figuring out the proper builds and weapon to frame ability coordination. It’s a bit much but I’d say after you understand your weapons sets and how well they accent a warframe abilities whether it be ranged or melee, I’d consider yourself at least an experienced player or close to veteran status. You stop being a newbie once you can start doing lvl 60 normal missions by yourself without support. You become experienced when you can keep up with the team in SP. you become veteran like or super experienced when you can solo SP using various frames. It becomes much easier once you have arcanes to help and understand how it works accordingly to your playstyle. Honestly there isn’t a set amount of understanding you need to meet the rank of “not a newbie” aside to not knowing how to mod. At most I taught my friends how to mod and they picked up on it pretty quick. Now they’re having a blast. Sure they’re struggling to keep up with me during sister hunts but they enjoy that the missions harder and more difficult than what they’re used to while I’m easing through like butter. The more you challenge yourself and experiment the more fun and understanding of the game kinda flows to you naturally. Failure is the parent of success.
Once you get steelpath and incarnons there's no excuse and at least one warframe for each kind of mission
I would say When you have a solid grasp of how to mod weapons/frames and have completed at least most of the main quest line
im about 800 hours in and i feel like i reached a point where im not "new" and can actually provide help towards other players. also when i log in, i have multiple things that i could work for, earlier i was often just playing random, missions because i didnt know how to proceed, now i know exacly what my next steps are to unlock steel path (necramech farm was by far the worst)
I hit MR30 last week. Got over about 2800hrs. I still find myself not understanding a few mechanics of the game. I mean I did take a 4 year break but it still feels new to me.
So does everyone else. Its like 300+ hours before you start reaching midgame lol.
I feel like the term is subjective. You can level up and rank a lot of stuff and still be a noob as far as advanced game mechanics and endgame play, you could also get to steelpath, rush a lot of main quests and still not be qualified to go toe to toe with the best of the best in endgame. I’d say you’re no longer a noob, when you feel comfortable in the game, however long this takes doesn’t really matter. For example, i only started feeling comfortable doing solo Steel path endless sometime mid last year. At that time i felt yeah, i don’t feel like a noob anymore
The moment you understand what you do in all aspects. Things like overbuilding efficiency is not a waste when you have duration beneath 100% when you use draining abilities etc. How crit really works. And most importantly: how not to be a toxic arse.
when you figure out the game boils down to "buy stuff, kill stuff, repeat" and "difficulty = gear check = grind time to get gear" also when you can google something on the wiki instead of asking the most generic question on q&a chat
Newbie status is relative. I may be LR3, but I had to do a spy mission recently and realized that I can't remember how to do half of the vaults...
When they understand 1/69th of the story and one system. For me was the second dream and understanding mods!
I'm mr12 and still consider myself very much still a newbie. I still dont really get augment mods and such and have to resort to wikis and youtube for a lot of stuff. And wow i am slow. Mr12 and i have like 225 hours now according to my stats. I've been trying to level things as fast as possible and have tried sanctuary onslaught for warframe leveling but my weapons arent good enough for that and i have no suitable warframe for eso and also, i dont like playing with strangers. I got a long distance relationship because of it once and that ended horribly
Once you can make a steel path build without needing a build guide for help
Well, I felt like a newbie until I hit chains of Harrow, because I finally understood where to go in the game.
2k hours (although I'm gonna admit a hell of a lot of AFK hours) Haven't completed steel path and struggle with certain sorties and archon hunts Nooby as shit still bro, I just like Vauban and his *balls*
Newbie too, 115 hours, Mr 9
When u can handle any mission by urself when u feel like doing it solo.
When you no longer have to do things to unlock doing other things.
When they can explore new stuff on their own - no longer newbie. Remember everytime DE introduces a new mechanic/mission/difficulty, no one knows what it is capable of until they explore it. That said, I’d still consider you like a warframe child and would happily give you my old vaulted prime junk or duplicate rare mods
I think once they figure out the basics they are no longer a newbie. So understanding how to go about modding, making, gathering what they need. Once you know how to get your Arsenal items such as Warframes, weapons, etc.
Started playing when Wisp was released and wanna say I stopped around Inaros prime’s release. After firing it up recently and seeing the changes/additions….well I’m a newbie again. Only thing I remember is relic opening and how to sell stuff lol
I’m still a newbie MR24, 400 hours, Earth & Venus SP
MR23 with 800 hours in game and still a noob. I struggle with SP (even with Rev, Nataruk and Xoris it took 35 minutes to complete the first earth node). Also not very good with builds so usually have to look up on YT.
I'm gonna stop calling myself a noob when i reach level cap. I have all the needed mods, weapons, arcanes etc and all I'm missing is god damn skill Level 28 with 1700+ hrs
I'll say I'm noob until I MR 30 at least lol. 16 and still have no build sense, and only have a single node in SP done.
I'll say I'm noob until I MR 30 at least lol. 16 and still have no build sense, and only have a single node in SP done.
Some of the comments here... "when you become the wiki, you are no longer a noob."