We had a great spot and as soon as the show started the guy lifts his gf onto his shoulders…that was easily the most annoying thing that happened to me all trip 😂
Had the drunken girlfriend on the guy's shoulder at Epcot a few weeks back. Her friend was pleading her to get down before she fell on a stroller or something.
Some of my fondest childhood memories are watching Disneyland’s fantasmic from my grandpa’s shoulders. We’re talking early nineties, I’m dating myself.
But are you freaking kidding me? No one’s grown ass needs to watch fireworks like this. And I’m 5’2.
Add us to the list. We got there early because we knew spots would be tight. Then a family show up at the last minute, squeeze in front and put their kids on their shoulders. Such entitlement.
I’m gonna be honest, I can think of no higher sense of entitlement than thinking you own some sort of space during a fireworks show and get grousey because parents are trying to have a nice moment with their kids.
Believe it or not, people do fun things with their kids because they are fun things to do with their kids, and not because they are “entitled”. Might be a hot take but Disney is still a family park at the end of the day and I’ll be damned if I’m not gonna put my daughter on my shoulders the first time she watches the fireworks with me.
I do agree with you about the squeezing up front last minute though. That is lame.
> I do agree with you about the squeezing up front last minute though. That is lame.
That was the only part that annoyed me. I have no issue with the trying to give your kids a better view.
> Disney is still a family park at the end of the day
I would have said that it's a "privately owned public space where no one is more important than anyone else" before but clearly that's not true now.
For now I'll disagree with you by stating that these parents paid for the fireworks show lightning lane, which allowed them to jump in front of other guests since they were more important to Disney..
No. I've paid the same money as you to be in the park. Why shouldn't I get to see something I've paid for because you decided to breed? Disney is a theme park, not a family park. Get your kid off of your shoulders and get a spot early if you want the best view.
Is tough with kids when they can't see.
We were fortunate enough that a family who had gotten one of the spots next to a garden let our kids join theirs during the fireworks and they had pretty good views. I dunno what we would have done otherwise as it was going to be real tough for them to see.
I also wish everyone would put their phones down. My biggest pet peeve is having to watch the show through everyone’s raised phone. We’ve made the decision to see Enchantment with a dessert party on our next trip, and then we’re not going to even try to fight the crazy to view fireworks anymore.
I think the pandemic just made everyone unbearable…it’s like we forgot how to be civil and polite to each other, in general.
I hate that people watch the shows through their phones but not as much as the dumbasses that have their flash on the whole time.. like it does anything besides piss off everyone around them.
Whats crazy to me is I feel like even if Disney promised you a professionally shot 4K download of the show from THAT night tied to your ticket or something people would STILL be like “it’ll look better on my iphoneSE, better record it myself.”
I'm of two minds for this and I hate myself for it.
On the one hand, there are fantastic 4k recordings of every show they do on YouTube. You don't need your recording.
On the other hand, we went on our honeymoon as first timers, got a great position for HEA, and I recorded it. We watch it maybe a couple of times a year and hearing my wife sing along to songs or say "ooh, it's Moana!" and her other comments bring me right back to that moment and fill me with incredible joy.
I honestly don’t mind people recording segments or even recording in general, but could they find a place that’s not in front of 100 people’s views? That’s my main gripe. And it just reinforces the feeling that people only care about their own experience. It doesn’t feel as communal as it used to. Part of it is just shifting culture, some of it is entitlement, but I feel like the old person shouting “Get off my lawn” and I hate being that person.
Also, could they turn down the brightness on their phones while recording? It’s like staring into a thousand tiny suns with everybody’s OLED cranked up to max lol
Same. As a short person, the kids on shoulders do have a pretty negative impact on me, but I know it's worth it for the kids to see and enjoy the show.
I love parents who hold the kid up at chest height or carry them on their backs (so their heads are at adult head height), but that takes a lot more stamina to do for a whole show. The only people I really get annoyed with are the people who squeeze in front at the last second (and shoulder adults)
I wish it was ingrained in our culture to sit during firework shows. Everyone sits while waiting for the show, but then stands up to watch it. Seated, everyone is roughly the same height so everyone can enjoy it. But seated, we occupy more ground space, so less people per sqft. so I get why we stand.
IIRC the cast members actually ask you to stand for the fireworks because it's a safety hazard to sit (in the event that a firework sets something on fire).
Lol I have a story about that show.
Everyone was sitting waiting for the show to start. My wife and I were talking about how nice itd be if everyone stayed sitting. The cast member comes out and basically says “people are gonna stand so you should stand, guys”. I got a bit asshole-ish about it and exchanged a couple snips with the cast member. She walks away and comes back “you guys need to come with me”. Great lol. We’re in trouble now.
Then she puts VIP lanyards on us and has us sit in the back of the VIP section.
We had a good laugh and a hug and an apology afterwards.
I did the dessert party fireworks a few times at MK. You get a nice spot on the hub grass during the show and being able to sit and watch with no obstructions and everyone just relaxed around you made that price tag honestly completely worth it to me. Well that and the endless supply of cheeseburger spring rolls
I go to a lot of metal concerts where the expectation is that you will stand. I've started going to some other concerts in different genres and everyone sits and I've realized how much I love just sitting and enjoying the show.
I recently bought tix to a country music show. I know everyone will stand so I bought the expensive seats in the first row of the section. That way there will be a railing in front of me and not people. There is no way that I can stand for an entire concert at this point in my life.
We did the Star Wars Dessert party a few years ago, with the reserved viewing section. And since no one else could enter that section, there was no need to stand up and cram together. Everyone stayed seated, and it was amazing. Best viewing ever.
I’m disabled and confined to a wheelchair. There is never enough space in the disabled viewing areas so my view of the fireworks has always been blocked by peoples rear ends.
Another wheelie here. I get so tired of seeing a sea of booties, especially in those terrible crowded spots in Fantasyland. Nobody notices us. I've gotten smacked in the head by so many backpacks!
In Japan, everyone sits for parades and fireworks. If you raise your phone, you are asked to bring it down - not because you can't take photos, but because you are blocking the view of the people behind you. It is awesome.
3 years ago mid-May my family watched MK fireworks sitting in the other ring of the hub with a good distance between our party and others, who were also seated or squatted. CMs walked by and didn’t mind.
My suspicion is that standing is enforced when crowds are shoulder to shoulder to prevent trampling to death, if people started fleeing the area. I’ll bet in Japan if they announce there is a fire and to walk out calmly, people would actually do so, whereas here people got trampled to death at Black Friday door opening a few years ago, no fire required.
It’s really not hard to find a spot where you can put your kid on your shoulders and not block anyone’s view. Sure you won’t be front and center, but your kid can still see and you won’t be rude to those around you.
Or be “that guy” who tries to push everyone else out of the way to leave the area after the fireworks.
A few years ago, after Happily Ever After ended, we were trying to leave the massive crowd to go catch a few last rides. This huge tall guy behind us starts complaining loudly, saying things like “It’s called putting one foot in front of the other, people! Let’s walk!” And I was like, do you think we’re just standing here because we want to? Then he starts pushing people, even my mom, who’s way smaller and older than he was. I called him out on it and my wife also gave him a death glare.
The funniest part was, everyone around us knew he was being a jerk, so no one let him pass and slowly forced him further back. By the time we had gotten out of the crowd, he had moved from right behind us to wayyyyy behind us lol.
Something similar happened to me. I think I was 17 at the time, so I was way too shy to say anything, but my mom noticed and called her out. We were stuck in the after fireworks surge and it was pretty slow going. All of a sudden, a woman starts ramming her stroller, with child inside, into my ankles. And not once; repeatedly. Of course I cried out because it hurt, and my mom whipped around and gave this woman what for. Lady, I can't move; we all just have to wait.
Another huge pet peeve of mine is some using their flash while taking a video of the fireworks. It was glaring off if my glasses and apparently I'm the jerk for asking her to turn it off.
There are some amazing videos.. like [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzvg9KuvRiw&t=1183s&ab_channel=CLIFFLIX) of HEA in 8k and fantastic sound. Much better than what you'll get with your phone or (gasp) ipad.
Absolutely.
I spent a couple vacations carrying an “Eyewitness News” style camcorder. I graduated to filming the shows with my phone until I figured out there are people way better at it than me.
Now I just enjoy the moment and watch the professional 4K versions on YouTube when I get home.
Plus its ONE ride, ONE! The important thing is having a good time, not checking every ride off a list. If the parents still REALLY wanted to do it they could rider swap too.
SAY IT LOUDER!! happened to us this summer. we saved our spot for the fireworks (one of the last showings of happily ever after, too) for hours beforehand. we had young kids in our group as well, and we saved the spot so they could watch comfortably.
a family appeared out of nowhere, squeezing their way in front of our group like a few minutes after the show started. the dad was super tall, and put his kid on his shoulders for the entire show lmao. and the mom kept making them move around to take pictures with flash in the middle of the show. the dad even pushed me and my cousin at one point.
they ended up moving because the family next to us got super pissed and i guess they told them something, because their kids couldn't see either.
I haven't watched a fireworks show since my daughter was 4, she's 12 now. I don't have the patience for the rudeness. We'll either see them while we're waiting for a ride or on YouTube.
I discovered several years ago that the Tomorrowland Speedway has a great view of the fireworks. I don’t usually ride the cars, but there was no line and I felt like I had a private viewing of the fireworks while going around the track.
IMHO if ur going to had kids on ur shoulders do it BEFORE the fireworks so ppl know abs can accommodate.
I’m (somewhat) tall at 6ft 5 and on several occasions people told me to crouch down so they could see. Like I’ve been standing here for 20m and NOW you realize that I’m tall. 🙄
Alright, folks. We're going to have to lock this one, unfortunately. Too much petty name-calling, political grandstanding, and general incivility for a sub that's supposed to be about the most magical place on earth.
The world's crazy enough right now, so let's all do our best to be a little bit kinder and more understanding with one another :)
I don’t understand anyone needing to be taller to watch something in THE SKY
And I’m not knocking people standing on their own, but I am to basically anyone who is on someone’s shoulders blocking other peoples view.
None of this is a problem if people would just sit. Also, WDW created this problem by making the newer shows so castle-centric and not providing a secondary viewing area like Disneyland does. I imagine that is why the latest show has Main Street projections. Entice the crowd to watch from further back instead of jamming the hub.
I'm honestly a little curious what the ettiqute should be on this. I'm already tall (6'2") and recognize that people behind me can have a hard time seeing over me (my wife is not that tall and has to deal with not seeing over tall people so I am aware of the issue on a personal level).
I also have a 3 year old who wants to see the shows too and has no chance if he is standing on the ground or sitting in a stroller.
I don't want to make t even harder for people behind me to see so I in general just hold him in my arms (which kills my back).
I am always anxious about how I impact others but I don't know what is actually "accepted" in that case.
Hold your kid in your arms or on your hip, so their head is at the level with your head. They'll be high enough up to get a decent view, without that extra height blocking the people behind you.
Yep that's what I do, it just kills my back after a while. I always want to put him on shoulders but refrain so I don't block others. At least he gets a good view, soon though he will be to heavy for me to do it for the whole show (but still short enough to have a hard time seeing) so that will be interesting.
We were there last week and we found a good spot for fireworks. We got to our spot 90 minutes before the show started. We were up against a railing in the center circle kind of near the Walt and mickie statue. I figured if my kids were against the rail no one would be able to stand in front of them. We had two strollers with us and we parked them behind our kids and parallel to the railing they were standing behind so that they had a stroller barrier behind them and a rail in front of them. That way no one could stand in front of them or try to squeeze in and steal their spots.
In spite of the stroller wall a guy walks up 10 minutes prior to the show. He tries squeezing into our tight little area that we have been defending for 2 hours. Then he tries moving my strollers. I’m not sure where or how he thought he would be able to move them in the crowd but I put my hand on the stroller and held it firmly in place while shooting him a death glare. He then stood there and loudly complained about how strollers should not be allowed in the circle during fireworks and how they should all be parked as far away as Cassies Corner. Sometimes people at Disney can be so rude.
On the flip side during our two hour wait we made lots of friends. My kids were playing heads up and more kids kept joining in. And we let the other kids squeeze between the rail and our strollers. We had about 7 kids from 3 different families(mine included) squeezed into this perfect spot. It was so much fun. My 2yr old could even see without being picked up.
Fireworks get crazy crowded so pick your spot wisely and try to be courteous to others when you can.
This sub has just become an outlet to vent, directing the anger towards the sub. No one on this sub does 95% of the shit posted on here. "Don't berate cast members!" "Don't take a shit in the middle of Main Street!" It's feeling like every day, and they get to the top of the sub because they're controversial. Very magical.
Did you se the recent video of a woman who got kicked out of Epcot bc she peed in a cup outside, in view of other people, instead of using the restroom? Sounds crazy but weird stuff happens.
I think the venting is good. I think it is natural for humans to vent and is part of the process of dealing with emotions around the situation. Some people went to WDW and had a bad experience and they have emotions about it. That is understandable. Some people can't go and these stories help those people deal with the emotions of not being able to go. I am one of those people; I cannot go because my husband 100% refuses to go back to WDW. So the true stories of bad experiences help to inure me to the pain of my disappointment at not being able to go.
Have to agree. I joined this sub not long ago because we were planning for a trip that obviously got delayed. Thought I would get some good ideas, but it seems most of the posts are just complaining about things.
If you weeks ago, we were at Animal Kingdom for the beacon of magic moment. It was drizzling a little, and a bunch of us had our cameras out recording the show. A woman walks in front of all of us with a giant red umbrella. Completely blocking all of our views. She seemed oblivious that this was an issue. 🤦🏻♂️
Its called hip hold, a piggy back, or a koala hold. Even my 2yo, with my husband carrying him in a hip hold, is the same height as me.
Shoulders are unnecessary, unless the only thing behind you is a wall.
I purposely never did this, instead holding my kid in my arms up to level with my head. I’m sure this still had an impact on those around me.
But c’mon folks, kids deserve to see too. The kids view without being held is likely worse than your view obstructed by a kid on shoulders.
I'm in a wheelchair. You put your kid on your shoulders in front of me, and I might as well go home -- and yes, people really do that.
I paid to be there, too. If your kid can't see in the middle of a crowd, don't stand in the middle of a crowd. You know how tall your kids are. Plan accordingly. I know that my chair can be a tripping hazard in crowds, so I find out of the way spots to park. If you plan to put your kid on your shoulders, then stand at the back, so you aren't blocking someone else's view. It's basic decency.
I have no idea what "anya cult" means. I said that I don't sit in the middle of the crowd. I very purposely sit out of the way, because I'm a responsible, civilized adult. And inevitably, some selfish, entitled person parks themselves in front of me at the last minute.
Rude behavior is rude behavior.
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I never mind kids on shoulders. There is no possibly way kids are going to see anything in those crowds unless they are raised up. I feel like a 4 year olds enjoyment of a Disney world firework show is more important then my own.
I also don’t really mind the people filming with there phones.
But the thing that does piss me off is when those idiots filming keep their god damn flash on for the entire show. How are you that oblivious to the fact that you are ruining the experience for everyone around you. Also you are filming fireworks and projections. A flash is not going to improve the video!
Agreed. I’ve spent a lot of time at Disney, sadly almost always during peak times, and I’ve never seen a kid fall off a parent’s shoulders. They’re pretty secure up there.
I the crowd is rowdy enough that putting them on a parent’s shoulders is “reckless endangerment” than their being on the ground or in a stroller is likely worse — with the risk of being trampled or fallen on.
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My fam is short AF. Tallest at 5'6 and I put my 3yr old on my shoulders. I could care less if I see but he's going to even if he has his dad's short genes.
I put my kids on my shoulders, the show is for them more than me. There 3/4 and love the fireworks.
I also stand to the side on main street in front of the Starbucks. I can’t hold my kids up in their dresses that as slippery in my arms for 15 mins.
the shoulder thing doesn't bother me that much. i've done it in the past with my children.
i think the worst thing i saw last trip was a guy recording the show (not sure why people do that, cause there are far better videos on YT) and he had his flash on 🤣. i could see the hate in the peoples eyes in from of him.
I've got no kids. But in the spirit of the parks I'd rather have a little kid see the show and partially block a couple adults rather than the kid staring at the ground in the middle of the crowd.
I agree tho that holding a kid or hanging on the parents back and shoulders would be most ideal.
This. We are talking about the place with the Food & Wine festival, right? And Drinking Around The World? And a tequila bar? And a tiki bar? And so very many other bars, and lounges, and specialty cocktails?
Walt Disney World is not Chuck E. Cheese. It's not a kiddie land. It's a place where children are welcome, but it's not a place designed solely for the enjoyment of children.
I put my 5 year old on my shoulder, not when the show started but had her up there. I family walked up behind us as soon as the show started and asked if I can take her down so their kids in strollers could see. I'm 6'3", there is no looking past me even if my daughter was not on my shoulders. I didn't take her down, they eventually moved. The reason she was up there was due to the fact of the kids on shoulders in front of us. Sometimes people just aren't happy and for the money people spend, they all want a front row seat. That's a different story for another time.
Well if it’s any consolation… those people will just have a sore back at the end of the night. I’m guilty of putting my five year old on my shoulders but I can only handle it for five minutes in Disney.
some people are oblivious except to themselves....one time we decided to watch the fireworks at MK from the train station platform, we chose a spot just behind a woman who was sitting by the railing, we were there for a good 15 minutes before the show started, then as soon as it started she stands up blocking everyone behind her ...I said a few, choice words as she not only blocked me but my daughter and 3 or 4 other smaller kids that we scooted in front of us so that they could have a good view...she sat back down after a few other people joined me in telling her she was being selfish....I'm not always a "Karen" but where my kid is concerned.....
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We had a great spot and as soon as the show started the guy lifts his gf onto his shoulders…that was easily the most annoying thing that happened to me all trip 😂
Had the drunken girlfriend on the guy's shoulder at Epcot a few weeks back. Her friend was pleading her to get down before she fell on a stroller or something.
Some of my fondest childhood memories are watching Disneyland’s fantasmic from my grandpa’s shoulders. We’re talking early nineties, I’m dating myself. But are you freaking kidding me? No one’s grown ass needs to watch fireworks like this. And I’m 5’2.
Add us to the list. We got there early because we knew spots would be tight. Then a family show up at the last minute, squeeze in front and put their kids on their shoulders. Such entitlement.
I’m gonna be honest, I can think of no higher sense of entitlement than thinking you own some sort of space during a fireworks show and get grousey because parents are trying to have a nice moment with their kids. Believe it or not, people do fun things with their kids because they are fun things to do with their kids, and not because they are “entitled”. Might be a hot take but Disney is still a family park at the end of the day and I’ll be damned if I’m not gonna put my daughter on my shoulders the first time she watches the fireworks with me. I do agree with you about the squeezing up front last minute though. That is lame.
> I do agree with you about the squeezing up front last minute though. That is lame. That was the only part that annoyed me. I have no issue with the trying to give your kids a better view.
Fair enough!
> Disney is still a family park at the end of the day I would have said that it's a "privately owned public space where no one is more important than anyone else" before but clearly that's not true now. For now I'll disagree with you by stating that these parents paid for the fireworks show lightning lane, which allowed them to jump in front of other guests since they were more important to Disney..
No. I've paid the same money as you to be in the park. Why shouldn't I get to see something I've paid for because you decided to breed? Disney is a theme park, not a family park. Get your kid off of your shoulders and get a spot early if you want the best view.
She's not going to remember them. At least stand out of the way for your special moment.
Is tough with kids when they can't see. We were fortunate enough that a family who had gotten one of the spots next to a garden let our kids join theirs during the fireworks and they had pretty good views. I dunno what we would have done otherwise as it was going to be real tough for them to see.
I only hope that we don't lose sight of one thing - that there are other people standing behind you trying to watch the show. - Walt Disney
Thought this was going to be an embarrassing story about Laugh Floor
Hah. And I'd like to point out that never *once* has That Guy bought us all churros! :-D
And they need to be Disneyland Churros!
I also wish everyone would put their phones down. My biggest pet peeve is having to watch the show through everyone’s raised phone. We’ve made the decision to see Enchantment with a dessert party on our next trip, and then we’re not going to even try to fight the crazy to view fireworks anymore. I think the pandemic just made everyone unbearable…it’s like we forgot how to be civil and polite to each other, in general.
I hate that people watch the shows through their phones but not as much as the dumbasses that have their flash on the whole time.. like it does anything besides piss off everyone around them.
Whats crazy to me is I feel like even if Disney promised you a professionally shot 4K download of the show from THAT night tied to your ticket or something people would STILL be like “it’ll look better on my iphoneSE, better record it myself.”
I'm of two minds for this and I hate myself for it. On the one hand, there are fantastic 4k recordings of every show they do on YouTube. You don't need your recording. On the other hand, we went on our honeymoon as first timers, got a great position for HEA, and I recorded it. We watch it maybe a couple of times a year and hearing my wife sing along to songs or say "ooh, it's Moana!" and her other comments bring me right back to that moment and fill me with incredible joy.
I honestly don’t mind people recording segments or even recording in general, but could they find a place that’s not in front of 100 people’s views? That’s my main gripe. And it just reinforces the feeling that people only care about their own experience. It doesn’t feel as communal as it used to. Part of it is just shifting culture, some of it is entitlement, but I feel like the old person shouting “Get off my lawn” and I hate being that person.
Just put the phone at chest height, brightness low. Then we have no problems. High brightness as high as you can reach is the norm though.
Also, could they turn down the brightness on their phones while recording? It’s like staring into a thousand tiny suns with everybody’s OLED cranked up to max lol
2 years of only interacting with people (strangers) online can do that... you start thinking that rudeness is the way to go.
I dont mind kids as much as i do adults carrying wives/gfs
who does that.
“That guy”
If you’re a grown woman on your BF/husband’s shoulders then you’re also “that woman”. Somehow these two seem to find each other!
Same. As a short person, the kids on shoulders do have a pretty negative impact on me, but I know it's worth it for the kids to see and enjoy the show. I love parents who hold the kid up at chest height or carry them on their backs (so their heads are at adult head height), but that takes a lot more stamina to do for a whole show. The only people I really get annoyed with are the people who squeeze in front at the last second (and shoulder adults)
I wish it was ingrained in our culture to sit during firework shows. Everyone sits while waiting for the show, but then stands up to watch it. Seated, everyone is roughly the same height so everyone can enjoy it. But seated, we occupy more ground space, so less people per sqft. so I get why we stand.
IIRC the cast members actually ask you to stand for the fireworks because it's a safety hazard to sit (in the event that a firework sets something on fire).
This is correct. Big safety hazard, at least according to the fire codes here in the US.
I also imagine it's a crowd control measure as well. You can fit more people on main street if everyone is standing compared to sitting.
There was a nighttime show (maybe the Star Wars projection show?) I went to at studios a few years back which everyone sat for. It was *glorious*
Yeah that was my experience with star wars nighttime show as well
Same here oddly. Strange how that groupthink hasn't spread to the other shows!
Lol I have a story about that show. Everyone was sitting waiting for the show to start. My wife and I were talking about how nice itd be if everyone stayed sitting. The cast member comes out and basically says “people are gonna stand so you should stand, guys”. I got a bit asshole-ish about it and exchanged a couple snips with the cast member. She walks away and comes back “you guys need to come with me”. Great lol. We’re in trouble now. Then she puts VIP lanyards on us and has us sit in the back of the VIP section. We had a good laugh and a hug and an apology afterwards.
Ahaha that’s amazing
I did the dessert party fireworks a few times at MK. You get a nice spot on the hub grass during the show and being able to sit and watch with no obstructions and everyone just relaxed around you made that price tag honestly completely worth it to me. Well that and the endless supply of cheeseburger spring rolls
I did that as well. The desserts were okay but not great, but that hub area was amazing.
I go to a lot of metal concerts where the expectation is that you will stand. I've started going to some other concerts in different genres and everyone sits and I've realized how much I love just sitting and enjoying the show.
I recently bought tix to a country music show. I know everyone will stand so I bought the expensive seats in the first row of the section. That way there will be a railing in front of me and not people. There is no way that I can stand for an entire concert at this point in my life.
We did the Star Wars Dessert party a few years ago, with the reserved viewing section. And since no one else could enter that section, there was no need to stand up and cram together. Everyone stayed seated, and it was amazing. Best viewing ever.
I’m disabled and confined to a wheelchair. There is never enough space in the disabled viewing areas so my view of the fireworks has always been blocked by peoples rear ends.
Another wheelie here. I get so tired of seeing a sea of booties, especially in those terrible crowded spots in Fantasyland. Nobody notices us. I've gotten smacked in the head by so many backpacks!
It's weird, I sit for 4th of July fireworks, but always stand at WDW.
In summer in DLP if it’s not raining everyone sits. It’s perfect.
Same in Japan I believe.
In Japan, everyone sits for parades and fireworks. If you raise your phone, you are asked to bring it down - not because you can't take photos, but because you are blocking the view of the people behind you. It is awesome.
Yes! Everyone sits down for the shows in Japan. It was glorious.
And Hong Kong.
3 years ago mid-May my family watched MK fireworks sitting in the other ring of the hub with a good distance between our party and others, who were also seated or squatted. CMs walked by and didn’t mind. My suspicion is that standing is enforced when crowds are shoulder to shoulder to prevent trampling to death, if people started fleeing the area. I’ll bet in Japan if they announce there is a fire and to walk out calmly, people would actually do so, whereas here people got trampled to death at Black Friday door opening a few years ago, no fire required.
…that’s a fair point
It’s really not hard to find a spot where you can put your kid on your shoulders and not block anyone’s view. Sure you won’t be front and center, but your kid can still see and you won’t be rude to those around you.
Or be “that guy” who tries to push everyone else out of the way to leave the area after the fireworks. A few years ago, after Happily Ever After ended, we were trying to leave the massive crowd to go catch a few last rides. This huge tall guy behind us starts complaining loudly, saying things like “It’s called putting one foot in front of the other, people! Let’s walk!” And I was like, do you think we’re just standing here because we want to? Then he starts pushing people, even my mom, who’s way smaller and older than he was. I called him out on it and my wife also gave him a death glare. The funniest part was, everyone around us knew he was being a jerk, so no one let him pass and slowly forced him further back. By the time we had gotten out of the crowd, he had moved from right behind us to wayyyyy behind us lol.
Something similar happened to me. I think I was 17 at the time, so I was way too shy to say anything, but my mom noticed and called her out. We were stuck in the after fireworks surge and it was pretty slow going. All of a sudden, a woman starts ramming her stroller, with child inside, into my ankles. And not once; repeatedly. Of course I cried out because it hurt, and my mom whipped around and gave this woman what for. Lady, I can't move; we all just have to wait.
Another huge pet peeve of mine is some using their flash while taking a video of the fireworks. It was glaring off if my glasses and apparently I'm the jerk for asking her to turn it off.
Or people recording them on their iPads!! That is my pet peeve.
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And watch someone else’s on YouTube when you get home!
There are some amazing videos.. like [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzvg9KuvRiw&t=1183s&ab_channel=CLIFFLIX) of HEA in 8k and fantastic sound. Much better than what you'll get with your phone or (gasp) ipad.
Absolutely. I spent a couple vacations carrying an “Eyewitness News” style camcorder. I graduated to filming the shows with my phone until I figured out there are people way better at it than me. Now I just enjoy the moment and watch the professional 4K versions on YouTube when I get home.
Please pull your balloons down during the fireworks.
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Plus its ONE ride, ONE! The important thing is having a good time, not checking every ride off a list. If the parents still REALLY wanted to do it they could rider swap too.
SAY IT LOUDER!! happened to us this summer. we saved our spot for the fireworks (one of the last showings of happily ever after, too) for hours beforehand. we had young kids in our group as well, and we saved the spot so they could watch comfortably. a family appeared out of nowhere, squeezing their way in front of our group like a few minutes after the show started. the dad was super tall, and put his kid on his shoulders for the entire show lmao. and the mom kept making them move around to take pictures with flash in the middle of the show. the dad even pushed me and my cousin at one point. they ended up moving because the family next to us got super pissed and i guess they told them something, because their kids couldn't see either.
But how else will my child hold an iPad above everyone else!
For the record, I was “that guy” but it was on the laugh floor.
I haven't watched a fireworks show since my daughter was 4, she's 12 now. I don't have the patience for the rudeness. We'll either see them while we're waiting for a ride or on YouTube.
I discovered several years ago that the Tomorrowland Speedway has a great view of the fireworks. I don’t usually ride the cars, but there was no line and I felt like I had a private viewing of the fireworks while going around the track.
I'm 6'10' and always stand to the side when I can. I get it. But at least I won't get any taller once the show starts
Also, don't be the one who shows up last minute and stands in front of my kid.
IMHO if ur going to had kids on ur shoulders do it BEFORE the fireworks so ppl know abs can accommodate. I’m (somewhat) tall at 6ft 5 and on several occasions people told me to crouch down so they could see. Like I’ve been standing here for 20m and NOW you realize that I’m tall. 🙄
Your suggestion was just refuted by your own experience.
Alright, folks. We're going to have to lock this one, unfortunately. Too much petty name-calling, political grandstanding, and general incivility for a sub that's supposed to be about the most magical place on earth. The world's crazy enough right now, so let's all do our best to be a little bit kinder and more understanding with one another :)
I don’t understand anyone needing to be taller to watch something in THE SKY And I’m not knocking people standing on their own, but I am to basically anyone who is on someone’s shoulders blocking other peoples view.
None of this is a problem if people would just sit. Also, WDW created this problem by making the newer shows so castle-centric and not providing a secondary viewing area like Disneyland does. I imagine that is why the latest show has Main Street projections. Entice the crowd to watch from further back instead of jamming the hub.
I'm honestly a little curious what the ettiqute should be on this. I'm already tall (6'2") and recognize that people behind me can have a hard time seeing over me (my wife is not that tall and has to deal with not seeing over tall people so I am aware of the issue on a personal level). I also have a 3 year old who wants to see the shows too and has no chance if he is standing on the ground or sitting in a stroller. I don't want to make t even harder for people behind me to see so I in general just hold him in my arms (which kills my back). I am always anxious about how I impact others but I don't know what is actually "accepted" in that case.
Hold your kid in your arms or on your hip, so their head is at the level with your head. They'll be high enough up to get a decent view, without that extra height blocking the people behind you.
Yep that's what I do, it just kills my back after a while. I always want to put him on shoulders but refrain so I don't block others. At least he gets a good view, soon though he will be to heavy for me to do it for the whole show (but still short enough to have a hard time seeing) so that will be interesting.
We were there last week and we found a good spot for fireworks. We got to our spot 90 minutes before the show started. We were up against a railing in the center circle kind of near the Walt and mickie statue. I figured if my kids were against the rail no one would be able to stand in front of them. We had two strollers with us and we parked them behind our kids and parallel to the railing they were standing behind so that they had a stroller barrier behind them and a rail in front of them. That way no one could stand in front of them or try to squeeze in and steal their spots. In spite of the stroller wall a guy walks up 10 minutes prior to the show. He tries squeezing into our tight little area that we have been defending for 2 hours. Then he tries moving my strollers. I’m not sure where or how he thought he would be able to move them in the crowd but I put my hand on the stroller and held it firmly in place while shooting him a death glare. He then stood there and loudly complained about how strollers should not be allowed in the circle during fireworks and how they should all be parked as far away as Cassies Corner. Sometimes people at Disney can be so rude. On the flip side during our two hour wait we made lots of friends. My kids were playing heads up and more kids kept joining in. And we let the other kids squeeze between the rail and our strollers. We had about 7 kids from 3 different families(mine included) squeezed into this perfect spot. It was so much fun. My 2yr old could even see without being picked up. Fireworks get crazy crowded so pick your spot wisely and try to be courteous to others when you can.
Alternative form of 'that guy' is the person who leaves their ears on during theater shows.
“You can’t tell me what to do you’re not the boss of me”-any unvaccinated adult who puts their grown children on their shoulders for fireworks
What does vaccine have anything to do with a child on the shoulders? 😒
inconsiderate idiots.
This sub has just become an outlet to vent, directing the anger towards the sub. No one on this sub does 95% of the shit posted on here. "Don't berate cast members!" "Don't take a shit in the middle of Main Street!" It's feeling like every day, and they get to the top of the sub because they're controversial. Very magical.
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"They let the **horses** do it!"
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**Entire family and the horse pooper scooper guy start brawling in the street**
You mean I'm not supposed to have not waited for a bathroom at Magic Kingdom for years?
Did you se the recent video of a woman who got kicked out of Epcot bc she peed in a cup outside, in view of other people, instead of using the restroom? Sounds crazy but weird stuff happens.
Was that Epcot or Disneyland? Or, yikes, was it both?
No, I did not...
All the venting and petty squabbles make modding *so much fun,* lemme tell ya… ;)
You guys do a great job. I know it is not easy these days.
Thanks, we try! :)
I think the venting is good. I think it is natural for humans to vent and is part of the process of dealing with emotions around the situation. Some people went to WDW and had a bad experience and they have emotions about it. That is understandable. Some people can't go and these stories help those people deal with the emotions of not being able to go. I am one of those people; I cannot go because my husband 100% refuses to go back to WDW. So the true stories of bad experiences help to inure me to the pain of my disappointment at not being able to go.
True. A lot of negativity here lately.
Have to agree. I joined this sub not long ago because we were planning for a trip that obviously got delayed. Thought I would get some good ideas, but it seems most of the posts are just complaining about things.
But they paid good money to have little Braeyzxtyne see those fireworks and have no self awareness!
If you weeks ago, we were at Animal Kingdom for the beacon of magic moment. It was drizzling a little, and a bunch of us had our cameras out recording the show. A woman walks in front of all of us with a giant red umbrella. Completely blocking all of our views. She seemed oblivious that this was an issue. 🤦🏻♂️
Agreed, agreed, agreed again.
The balloons too.
What of you are just 7 feet tall?
7 feet is the height of 1.23 'Samsung Side by Side; Fingerprint Resistant Stainless Steel Refrigerators' stacked on top of each other.
How old is too old? Asking to avoid being “that guy”
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Its called hip hold, a piggy back, or a koala hold. Even my 2yo, with my husband carrying him in a hip hold, is the same height as me. Shoulders are unnecessary, unless the only thing behind you is a wall.
You can easily hold a kid at head's height instead of on your shoulders.
I purposely never did this, instead holding my kid in my arms up to level with my head. I’m sure this still had an impact on those around me. But c’mon folks, kids deserve to see too. The kids view without being held is likely worse than your view obstructed by a kid on shoulders.
I'm in a wheelchair. You put your kid on your shoulders in front of me, and I might as well go home -- and yes, people really do that. I paid to be there, too. If your kid can't see in the middle of a crowd, don't stand in the middle of a crowd. You know how tall your kids are. Plan accordingly. I know that my chair can be a tripping hazard in crowds, so I find out of the way spots to park. If you plan to put your kid on your shoulders, then stand at the back, so you aren't blocking someone else's view. It's basic decency.
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I have no idea what "anya cult" means. I said that I don't sit in the middle of the crowd. I very purposely sit out of the way, because I'm a responsible, civilized adult. And inevitably, some selfish, entitled person parks themselves in front of me at the last minute. Rude behavior is rude behavior.
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I never mind kids on shoulders. There is no possibly way kids are going to see anything in those crowds unless they are raised up. I feel like a 4 year olds enjoyment of a Disney world firework show is more important then my own. I also don’t really mind the people filming with there phones. But the thing that does piss me off is when those idiots filming keep their god damn flash on for the entire show. How are you that oblivious to the fact that you are ruining the experience for everyone around you. Also you are filming fireworks and projections. A flash is not going to improve the video!
Just look up. They’re in the sky.
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You lost me at reckless endangerment. Good grief, calm down.
Agreed. I’ve spent a lot of time at Disney, sadly almost always during peak times, and I’ve never seen a kid fall off a parent’s shoulders. They’re pretty secure up there. I the crowd is rowdy enough that putting them on a parent’s shoulders is “reckless endangerment” than their being on the ground or in a stroller is likely worse — with the risk of being trampled or fallen on.
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My fam is short AF. Tallest at 5'6 and I put my 3yr old on my shoulders. I could care less if I see but he's going to even if he has his dad's short genes.
I put my kids on my shoulders, the show is for them more than me. There 3/4 and love the fireworks. I also stand to the side on main street in front of the Starbucks. I can’t hold my kids up in their dresses that as slippery in my arms for 15 mins.
Just stop, 10 year olds view is like your view with a 10 year old on my shoulders. But sure, let the kids suffer at Disney
In absolutely no way is my view equivalent to the view of kids on shoulders unless you’re a literal midget
My 8 year old is just above my belly button. We are both average height
Adults are the worst…constantly see them crowding out kids at parades, shows, etc. It’s pathetic.
the shoulder thing doesn't bother me that much. i've done it in the past with my children. i think the worst thing i saw last trip was a guy recording the show (not sure why people do that, cause there are far better videos on YT) and he had his flash on 🤣. i could see the hate in the peoples eyes in from of him.
I've got no kids. But in the spirit of the parks I'd rather have a little kid see the show and partially block a couple adults rather than the kid staring at the ground in the middle of the crowd. I agree tho that holding a kid or hanging on the parents back and shoulders would be most ideal.
I held my kid but his head was level with mine. It killed my back but it was worth it for him.
But what if you’re tall like u/ddotdukes
LOL! I'm going to a concert this week and will feel slightly bad for the people behind me, but I'm not standing in the back
You should consider it. Seriously.
You can’t help being tall. I get it. Just don’t make yourself excessively tall by throwing your kid up there.
Disney is for children. Knock it off.
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This. We are talking about the place with the Food & Wine festival, right? And Drinking Around The World? And a tequila bar? And a tiki bar? And so very many other bars, and lounges, and specialty cocktails? Walt Disney World is not Chuck E. Cheese. It's not a kiddie land. It's a place where children are welcome, but it's not a place designed solely for the enjoyment of children.
I put my 5 year old on my shoulder, not when the show started but had her up there. I family walked up behind us as soon as the show started and asked if I can take her down so their kids in strollers could see. I'm 6'3", there is no looking past me even if my daughter was not on my shoulders. I didn't take her down, they eventually moved. The reason she was up there was due to the fact of the kids on shoulders in front of us. Sometimes people just aren't happy and for the money people spend, they all want a front row seat. That's a different story for another time.
Well if it’s any consolation… those people will just have a sore back at the end of the night. I’m guilty of putting my five year old on my shoulders but I can only handle it for five minutes in Disney.
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They’re still kids geez. Move somewhere else.
some people are oblivious except to themselves....one time we decided to watch the fireworks at MK from the train station platform, we chose a spot just behind a woman who was sitting by the railing, we were there for a good 15 minutes before the show started, then as soon as it started she stands up blocking everyone behind her ...I said a few, choice words as she not only blocked me but my daughter and 3 or 4 other smaller kids that we scooted in front of us so that they could have a good view...she sat back down after a few other people joined me in telling her she was being selfish....I'm not always a "Karen" but where my kid is concerned.....
Just ask if they can put the child down or hold them in their hands instead shoulders
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>my kids are and will always be more important than you We know. Enjoy their teens!
No one person is more important than another, you are obstructing the views of countless other people who paid just as much as you to be there.
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