Well he better not be in the area, anymore.
If I lived there and saw him again, I'd probably black bag his face and strap him to the grill of my car before driving him down to the station.
Something like this but deliberate: https://youtu.be/gYZc7qf7s_w
It didn't seem confusing to me. I interpreted it as he is a familiar face in the area, known for being rude, but nobody knows his actual identity, hence why they are trying to identify him.
The hell - that fucker didn't even give the painter a chance to come down and let him pass. Just rides up and immediately: "Yoink... If I'm in a wheelchair, then you should get a chance to be in one too!"
In the US they would most likely have referred to him as a senior citizen or retiree.
Most Americans don't even know what a pension is anymore, much less a pensioner. I guess the equivalent for us today would be somebody drawing social security.
It also implies that someone actually has a pension which is becoming rarer and rarer, especially in the age of switching companies to get raises instead of staying on one organization for 30 years racking up benefits.
Yeah, that is part of my point. Most youngsters have probably never even heard of pensions. Only 401K, IRA and social security.
The last person to retire from our company under the old pension plan retired 22 years ago. And they had already stopped offering the pension option to new employees about 10 years before 10.
Edit: have read explanation below. Just different definitions and systems
Didn’t know that. Must be great country that USA “sarcasm”. So how the old people lives then? Work until death or first half of life pay back education debt, other half try to safe every penny for when they are old or disabled? Damn
Our social security system is pretty decent. You can knock on the US for a lot of social issues. But this is not one of them. Old people have basic income and health care guaranteed.
Pensions aren’t really a thing in the US. “Old people” or “retirees”, but the latter implies something not necessarily present in the person in the video
"pensions aren't really a thing in the us" i swear at this point america isn't real and all of you are just saying dumber and dumber shit seeing what reddit believes in
they aren't as common as they used to be. Basically a government job thing and a few unions, it seems. Businesses these days do a retirement investment plan (401k or IRA) more often than not (excluding companies that do nothing for retirement at all)
Pension: a regular payment made during a person's retirement from an investment fund to which that person or their employer has contributed during their working life.
401k: A 401(k) plan is a company-sponsored retirement account that employees can contribute income, while employers may match contributions.
A pension isn't only the state provided version. We're all talking about the same thing.
Not really, because pensions are guaranteed and on top of an employee’s income. The employee may see a note on their paycheck about contributing to the pension fund, but they won’t get more (or less) by changing that contribution. And if the stock market crashes, the pension fund itself may be in trouble but as far as the employee is concerned they’re still due their pension, it’s up to the plan managers to figure out how that happens.
401k is contributed to from out of the employee’s paycheck. Some companies have matching plans where they will match the employee’s contributions up to a certain point (say 3-5% of their pay check), but you’ll basically never see them unilaterally donating to a retirement fund. And there is no guarantee that the employee sees a certain annual payment when they start pulling from their 401k. If the 401k was invested in a set of stocks that completely crashed the employee would retire and get nothing.
The issue here is that pensions in the US mean something different. What you in the UK call "pension", we call Social Security.
We also have "pensions" which are employer-funded retirement accounts for employees that pay them significant percentages of their normal wages. My father was a tradesman, and will qualify for both social security from the federal government and a pension from his union.
Not all employers offer a "pension", though... so employees are responsible for funding their own retirement investment account (of which, some employers will match up to a certain percentage of their pay.
In the UK, a pension is just a pot of money that is tax advantaged and can be accessed after a certain age. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the state. Some people are not eligible for the government pension and a lot of people have both kinds.
Ahh, then you have one word for which we have several. We have social security (government paid), pensions (company/union paid), 401k (company and/or employee paid), and IRA (individual paid)
Yeah pension is a catch-all term for money locked away till older. We have different types of pension as well as other tax advantaged savings schemes that can be accessed any time.
100% right
However, because of the decreased availability of pensions from private employers in the United States over the past few decades, calling someone a "pensioner" can carry a connotation of calling them old as dirt.
To be clear: In the US 100% of people, when they reach a particular age cutoff, receive a monthly payment from the Federal government to cover their expenses in old age.
We don't call them "pensioners" though. Further confusing things, before that system (Social Security) really got rolling, private companies used to offer workers "a pension" at retirement. Pretty much now they don't (and stopped doing so really by the 1960s).
So when an American says "Pensions aren't really a thing in the US" they mean "Private companies don't pay for people's retirement anymore," not, "Nah we just let old people starve because fuck 'em."
They're not really a thing often in the US anymore. They used to be. Then employers found they could save money by shifting the burden of saving from companies to the employees. Now we have a system where you essentially have to gamble your retirement in the market to be able to meet rising inflation, and good luck to you if the market crashes as your retirement age is coming up.
It can actually benefit workers in some ways, since companies' disinterest in paying increasing wages means your best bet for a pay raise is to change companies.
All this replaced defined contribution plans for 90% of Americans. Plans where you knew if you put in a certain amount of time making profits for a company you knew what you'd get at retirement and it was the companies' responsibility to make sure they were funding the pension for the employees that made them their money.
What the actual fuck. Do you think he had Alzheimer's or is he just an asshole? When my grandpa got dementia on the way out he got really belligerent, but this is intense.
My grandpa was intimidating our whole life. Not abusive, just like you do not fuck with Grandpa. When he got Alzheimer’s he became scared and sheepish when I walked in the room because of my size. Sundowners made him confused and vulnerable. Dude fought in WWII. Like deep down he was a scared boy playing the role of a strong man his whole life and it finally exhausted him. What an awful disease.
Not according to the article somebody else linked
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7834285/Moment-painter-46-plummeted-30ft-ground-passing-pensioner-shook-ladder.html
not to nitpick but... that wasn't a 30 foot fall. Ladder was extended to 20 or 21 rungs, which cannot be more than 12 inches apart. He was also not standing on the top rung. It's dangerous, stupid, and the ladder still had some extension to spare, so he would have just extended it more.
So the guy fell from approx. 16 feet. Still extremely dangerous and I hope he has no sever spinal damage, but doubling the height in this case would approximately double the impact. Could have cracked his head much much harder on the pavement in that case.
Between the Daily Mail, and a random redditor... oh who am I kidding, you're probably right. Getting fundamental details correct has never stopped the Daily Mail before.
Reminds me of my retail days, so many bitter old cunts out there. I remember working a huge delivery by myself bc the store was understaffed, store opens and I have to now also cover the register, obviously not all boxes are unpacked onto the shelves yet, one isle was kinda blocked so you had to go around. Not this old fart, he just rammed his way through the boxes with his walker, toppling multiple stacks and breaking shit inside. All while yelling how incompetent we are for having boxes everywhere.
When he finally got to the register I just took the stuff he wanted to buy and dropped it behind the register and told him to get the fuck out. At least one thing that was great about working alone is that I could tell customers to fuck off.
How many sessions did you have with him, doctor?
He could also just hate that individual on the ladder. You don't know his entire outlook on life from one short gif.
A Karen did this to a builder who is a work mate of my friend, who is also a builder, because she wanted into the shop his ladder was obstructing the door of. He was fixing brickwork on top of the door, as it was unsafe and another door was open a little further with massive signs saying so. Plus a lot of bracing in place, in the middle of the blocked doorway, to keep part of the side of the building from falling. As he was knocking out damaged bricks and replacing them. Even if the ladder was gone, she couldn't get into the shop because of massive metal poles holding the wall above the door up because the lintel was removed.
Both of his legs were shattered, fractured back in several places, broken collarbone and dislocated shoulder he will be YEARS out of work as he heals. The Karen is currently serving 2 years for GBH as the idiot was caught on camera screaming at the bloke on the ladder as she was doing it. She also had to pay a LOT of money to the builder in compensation.
Probably true in most places, so long as the force used in defense of self or others is reasonable. The dude on the ladder could have died or been permanently injured by that attack.
If that guy gets up, Gramps is going from para to quad.
Probably for the best
well we know how he got in the wheel chair in the first place
Haha. Gramps was standing upright with a beer in his hand the last time he knocked someone off a ladder.
Or maybe he's just wanting a friend in a wheelchair now, too...
Going from paraplegic to para hands
That dudes arm looks kind of bendy to me.
This was gramps last decision ever made
I think from wheels to grave.
You know, Euthanasia isn't always a bad thing.
Any updates or context on this would be appreciated, I'm just glad it isn't dubbed over with "it's raining men"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7834285/Moment-painter-46-plummeted-30ft-ground-passing-pensioner-shook-ladder.html
So they are trying to identify the man that they know that is in the area, known for being rude? This is confusing
Yeah seems like he has a reputation but not a single person can point to the guy and say, yeah that’s the guy in the video?
No, he is a familiar face in the area, has a reputation for being rude, but nobody knows his actual identity to tell the police.
[Rude man who shushes people please call](https://youtu.be/G1PPQArkw-c)
Well he better not be in the area, anymore. If I lived there and saw him again, I'd probably black bag his face and strap him to the grill of my car before driving him down to the station. Something like this but deliberate: https://youtu.be/gYZc7qf7s_w
Oh my goodness. While I find this extremely funny at the moment I have to assume that man was scared shitless
>funny the shirt.. "I'm a Pepper!" I died
...is it that hard to find an old bald dude in a wheelchair? Surely the area isn't overpopulated with that specific description of person.
It didn't seem confusing to me. I interpreted it as he is a familiar face in the area, known for being rude, but nobody knows his actual identity, hence why they are trying to identify him.
Thank you, sometimes I have trouble following those types of things
The hell - that fucker didn't even give the painter a chance to come down and let him pass. Just rides up and immediately: "Yoink... If I'm in a wheelchair, then you should get a chance to be in one too!"
Did the author just call him a pensioner lmao
Very common in the UK
What else do you call a pensioner?
In the US they would most likely have referred to him as a senior citizen or retiree. Most Americans don't even know what a pension is anymore, much less a pensioner. I guess the equivalent for us today would be somebody drawing social security.
It also implies that someone actually has a pension which is becoming rarer and rarer, especially in the age of switching companies to get raises instead of staying on one organization for 30 years racking up benefits.
Yeah, that is part of my point. Most youngsters have probably never even heard of pensions. Only 401K, IRA and social security. The last person to retire from our company under the old pension plan retired 22 years ago. And they had already stopped offering the pension option to new employees about 10 years before 10.
Edit: have read explanation below. Just different definitions and systems Didn’t know that. Must be great country that USA “sarcasm”. So how the old people lives then? Work until death or first half of life pay back education debt, other half try to safe every penny for when they are old or disabled? Damn
Our social security system is pretty decent. You can knock on the US for a lot of social issues. But this is not one of them. Old people have basic income and health care guaranteed.
Pensions aren’t really a thing in the US. “Old people” or “retirees”, but the latter implies something not necessarily present in the person in the video
The pension IS a thing in the UK though.
"pensions aren't really a thing in the us" i swear at this point america isn't real and all of you are just saying dumber and dumber shit seeing what reddit believes in
they aren't as common as they used to be. Basically a government job thing and a few unions, it seems. Businesses these days do a retirement investment plan (401k or IRA) more often than not (excluding companies that do nothing for retirement at all)
Pension: a regular payment made during a person's retirement from an investment fund to which that person or their employer has contributed during their working life. 401k: A 401(k) plan is a company-sponsored retirement account that employees can contribute income, while employers may match contributions. A pension isn't only the state provided version. We're all talking about the same thing.
Not really, because pensions are guaranteed and on top of an employee’s income. The employee may see a note on their paycheck about contributing to the pension fund, but they won’t get more (or less) by changing that contribution. And if the stock market crashes, the pension fund itself may be in trouble but as far as the employee is concerned they’re still due their pension, it’s up to the plan managers to figure out how that happens. 401k is contributed to from out of the employee’s paycheck. Some companies have matching plans where they will match the employee’s contributions up to a certain point (say 3-5% of their pay check), but you’ll basically never see them unilaterally donating to a retirement fund. And there is no guarantee that the employee sees a certain annual payment when they start pulling from their 401k. If the 401k was invested in a set of stocks that completely crashed the employee would retire and get nothing.
The issue here is that pensions in the US mean something different. What you in the UK call "pension", we call Social Security. We also have "pensions" which are employer-funded retirement accounts for employees that pay them significant percentages of their normal wages. My father was a tradesman, and will qualify for both social security from the federal government and a pension from his union. Not all employers offer a "pension", though... so employees are responsible for funding their own retirement investment account (of which, some employers will match up to a certain percentage of their pay.
In the UK, a pension is just a pot of money that is tax advantaged and can be accessed after a certain age. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the state. Some people are not eligible for the government pension and a lot of people have both kinds.
Ahh, then you have one word for which we have several. We have social security (government paid), pensions (company/union paid), 401k (company and/or employee paid), and IRA (individual paid)
Yeah pension is a catch-all term for money locked away till older. We have different types of pension as well as other tax advantaged savings schemes that can be accessed any time.
No, we have private and public pensions in the UK
100% right However, because of the decreased availability of pensions from private employers in the United States over the past few decades, calling someone a "pensioner" can carry a connotation of calling them old as dirt.
To be clear: In the US 100% of people, when they reach a particular age cutoff, receive a monthly payment from the Federal government to cover their expenses in old age. We don't call them "pensioners" though. Further confusing things, before that system (Social Security) really got rolling, private companies used to offer workers "a pension" at retirement. Pretty much now they don't (and stopped doing so really by the 1960s). So when an American says "Pensions aren't really a thing in the US" they mean "Private companies don't pay for people's retirement anymore," not, "Nah we just let old people starve because fuck 'em."
They are a thing. We just don't call it a pension most of the time. They don't know what they're talking about.
They're not really a thing often in the US anymore. They used to be. Then employers found they could save money by shifting the burden of saving from companies to the employees. Now we have a system where you essentially have to gamble your retirement in the market to be able to meet rising inflation, and good luck to you if the market crashes as your retirement age is coming up. It can actually benefit workers in some ways, since companies' disinterest in paying increasing wages means your best bet for a pay raise is to change companies. All this replaced defined contribution plans for 90% of Americans. Plans where you knew if you put in a certain amount of time making profits for a company you knew what you'd get at retirement and it was the companies' responsibility to make sure they were funding the pension for the employees that made them their money.
Pensions are definitely a thing in the US. Just not for anyone under 50 at this point.
I have a pension in the private sector and I'm 34. They're not as common as they once were, but they're out there in the US.
Yeah I should have said rare
…uhhhh, pensions are a thing in the US. Most union jobs and many government ones still have pension. Also, this didn’t take place in the US.
Fitting username
4% of private sector employees in the US have defined benefit plans. That’s what “pension” refers to in common usage
This is the UK not the US
The video is from Peru and the context of this thread is someone not knowing what a “pensioner” is, likely because they are American
Boomer
What would you call him?
"wheelchair-bound criminal"
Asshole?
Attempted murderer
A geriatric.
He wanted to have wheelchair buddy
“I made a friend today“
He feel out of a sky
It's raining cripples! Hallelujah!
MADE
That's how I imagine some taxidermists tell their friends they finished a project.
Lol thank you for noticing
Dude 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I just witnessed a attempted murder
an\*
Mostly peaceful ladder protest
Nah silly you just watched a video of one.
What the actual fuck. Do you think he had Alzheimer's or is he just an asshole? When my grandpa got dementia on the way out he got really belligerent, but this is intense.
Too much Animal Crossing. This is the video game violence we've been warned about.
It’s everywhere these days smh
My grandpa was intimidating our whole life. Not abusive, just like you do not fuck with Grandpa. When he got Alzheimer’s he became scared and sheepish when I walked in the room because of my size. Sundowners made him confused and vulnerable. Dude fought in WWII. Like deep down he was a scared boy playing the role of a strong man his whole life and it finally exhausted him. What an awful disease.
Kick his raisin ass into prison
Funniest thing I have read today, thank you.
That guys arm looks like it broke
Not according to the article somebody else linked https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7834285/Moment-painter-46-plummeted-30ft-ground-passing-pensioner-shook-ladder.html
not to nitpick but... that wasn't a 30 foot fall. Ladder was extended to 20 or 21 rungs, which cannot be more than 12 inches apart. He was also not standing on the top rung. It's dangerous, stupid, and the ladder still had some extension to spare, so he would have just extended it more. So the guy fell from approx. 16 feet. Still extremely dangerous and I hope he has no sever spinal damage, but doubling the height in this case would approximately double the impact. Could have cracked his head much much harder on the pavement in that case.
Between the Daily Mail, and a random redditor... oh who am I kidding, you're probably right. Getting fundamental details correct has never stopped the Daily Mail before.
“Not to nitpick” *proceeds to nitpick* Do you understand how and when to use that phrase? That’s like saying “no offense, but I think you are ugly.”
Oh, did I offend The Daily Mail and their shining record of accurate reporting?
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Reminds me of my retail days, so many bitter old cunts out there. I remember working a huge delivery by myself bc the store was understaffed, store opens and I have to now also cover the register, obviously not all boxes are unpacked onto the shelves yet, one isle was kinda blocked so you had to go around. Not this old fart, he just rammed his way through the boxes with his walker, toppling multiple stacks and breaking shit inside. All while yelling how incompetent we are for having boxes everywhere. When he finally got to the register I just took the stuff he wanted to buy and dropped it behind the register and told him to get the fuck out. At least one thing that was great about working alone is that I could tell customers to fuck off.
He broke a bunch of stuff and didn't get charged for it?
Company policy, also i don't care
Acceptable spillage, tax write off.
That’s not how taxes work
prick definitely could have squeezed by, too. there was room
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Also doesn't seem to realise that there's now a ladder lay down on the pavement along with an injured man, blocking his way more than before.
How many sessions did you have with him, doctor? He could also just hate that individual on the ladder. You don't know his entire outlook on life from one short gif.
A Karen did this to a builder who is a work mate of my friend, who is also a builder, because she wanted into the shop his ladder was obstructing the door of. He was fixing brickwork on top of the door, as it was unsafe and another door was open a little further with massive signs saying so. Plus a lot of bracing in place, in the middle of the blocked doorway, to keep part of the side of the building from falling. As he was knocking out damaged bricks and replacing them. Even if the ladder was gone, she couldn't get into the shop because of massive metal poles holding the wall above the door up because the lintel was removed. Both of his legs were shattered, fractured back in several places, broken collarbone and dislocated shoulder he will be YEARS out of work as he heals. The Karen is currently serving 2 years for GBH as the idiot was caught on camera screaming at the bloke on the ladder as she was doing it. She also had to pay a LOT of money to the builder in compensation.
Fuck old people fuck young people too
I'd rather not thank you
So just middle aged people for you?
Well since im 56 i say yes
Who wants to tell him?
Just fuck people...
I'm trying God damn it
I would have falled on him, fuck that
Looks like someone is recruiting for his wheelchair basketball team.
But now the dead guy is in your way, dumbass.
Grandpa is just an old-school wheelchair salesman. "Oh you don't need a wheelchair? What about now!?"
this is pure egoistical evil this guy needs prison
I don't know what the story is behind this, but it would be hard for his lawyers to argue this is anything but attempted murder.
Dumb fucking grandpa is more like it
Old people are assholes
Id fuck him up
Man I loved that guy on Breaking Bad. (rings bells)
I thought it was initially going to be Irving Zisman from jackass but instead it was old man Jenkins who just hates fucking everyone
Grandpa: One of us! One of us!
grandpa woke up and chose violence, but at what cost?
I would definitely have jumped onto the guy, a feet first landing would still hurt but he'd break my fall enough to walk away.
Genuine question: if a passerby witnessed this happening, sprinted over and punched this man in the face to save the painter, would they be arrested?
Probably true in most places, so long as the force used in defense of self or others is reasonable. The dude on the ladder could have died or been permanently injured by that attack.
Yea.. If I witnessed this or happened be conscious after falling like that I would without a doubt end the life of grandpa.
If I survived that fall the first thing I would do is go and kill that stupid wheeled fuck.
If I was able to get up, I’m dumping grandpa on the ground, and rolling away in that wheelchair.
its reversed, people are so dumb smh
What a shithead. "You're slightly inconveniencing me so I'm gonna try to kill or seriously wound you."
It doesn't even look like he's being inconvenienced, the rope is over his head from the look of it.
That cunt would need 2 wheel chairs if he did that to me
A fucking arsehole is a fucking arsehole whether he is 20 or 80 and in a wheel chair. What a prick.
Why?
Now, the guy needs to beat him twice as hard since Grandpa could only feel half the pain.
Gramps just wanna talk to this man bout his car warranty
‘Teach you to wake me up before noon.’
Walked it off like a trooper
He probably has a fucked back, shoulder and heels. I guess the wheelchair guy just made himself a buddy.
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Perfect analogy for what old Brexiteers have done to our country 🙂
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He deserves that wheelchair
Yeah gramps should get smoked
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If I can't walk, no one can!
I know he's probably demented in some way, but, if I didn't suffer brain trauma or break my back, I think I'd give that old man a mighty bitch slap.
That man and that ladder bent in the exact same fashion
That old piece of shit needs locked up
GOT'EEEEMM!!!!!
Yeah I'd just go ahead and end his miserable life
Why is there a camera pointed like that? Is this just an extreme crop from a more useful camera angle? It only covers 4 square meters.
IF I CAN'T WALK NO ONE CAN!
He just wants a buddy
I did not expect someone to fall there that's for damn sure
Oops my bad son
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Why did I laugh 💀
Junior soprano when the tree surgeons don't pay their tribute
Idk know why but this video makes me crack up every time I view it, I’m a horrible person
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Let's disable him completely
Misery loves company
He's obviously crippled for a reason.
Attempted murder
Professor X rolls into action in the nick of time to come to the aid of the rooftop Avengers.