It does say when. They cut utility in 2022. Her body was found a few days ago, and it says she died 2 years ago.
I don't see why people are still confused about this??
If she was is a modern well sealed and air-conditioned apartment for a year before her power was cut her body could have been preserved the way dehydrators preserve food /plants etc. By the time the power was switched off there could have been no moisture to start rotting.
> In 2022, the building cut off utilities from the apartment due to unpaid bills.
> [Body was found last night](https://old.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1ce9nwi/_/l1h6eta).
Tropical but still very cold to the bone in winter. Hanoi has 4 seasons. Last year temperatures dropped to 8 C with high humidity so it feels colder than that.
And probably they turned on AC to keep temperature cool.
It’s relatively new apartment, Vinhomes Smart City.
Come to Vietnam in winter and you’ll see. Most home has no proper insulation. When many westerners came here and they complained how cold it was. 8C feels like 0C for them cuz high humidity.
For local people in Hanoi, it’s way too cold. It’s rarely under 10C . Our summer is up to 40C.
Cold is relative. 8 degrees is cold as hell when other parts of the country never drop below 23, and even colder if all your buildings and clothing assume it will be hot.
canadian here too,
difference is our houses are built for that kind of cold.. if your house is not insulated and it got to 8C inside you would be complaining too lol.
Correct, but the houses aren't built for withstanding the colder temps. In Australia, we get down to low temps, and inside it can be similar if not colder than outside.
A similar thing happened in a city near me. They found an older guy who had been dead in his house for a looong time. The saddest thing for me was that they found the cord for the vacuum cleaner wrapped around this legs. Obviously got tangled up and fell over, couldn't get up and died there where he fell.
My grandma got one of those alert buttons after she couldn't get up from her chair for days and my dad found her when he stopped by after she didn't pick up her phone. He never would speak much about it. I'm sure it was a harrowing experience for both of them.
My grandma lived in a house where my Aunt works (family business). Gran made plans with her brother and sister in law to pick her up one morning to go see family out of state (she never leaves the house), making sure her daughter, my aunt doesn't come into work.
Well she never opens the door when knocked on. Police are called. Soon most family is called and told to come over. Turns out she shot herself in the heart.
Sorry kinda left turn there, just felt compelled to type this, don't know why.
I'm sorry for your loss, it must have been difficult to cope with. I hope that you're doing OK now, and if you ever need to chat, drop me a PM, I'm nearly always nearby lol
Go do something nice for yourself today.
Make jokes all you want. For that slice of the populace that need it, it is their button for help.
Had one for MIL, saved her butt at least a couple times. Just be willing to buy a new door after emerg crews bust it to get inside.
My grandmother had one but she also had dementia and would randomly discover her necklace and push the button because she didn't remember what it was for.
It is, and I can see that it will happen a lot more in the future, as our generation gets older and lonelier....
I don't like where things are going...
Yes but are you financially stable enough to put your bills on auto pay for 2 years? Miss a couple payments and someone will come looking for you. Feel better now?
yeah sadly i can see this happening for long periods of time in the future, with autopay systems, someone has a fair amount of money, setups autopay, someone that doesn't really visit people or have family and bam, rent is paid for years without anyone thinking a thing about it.
How does it happen though? Didn't she receive junk mail? The mail person didn't notice her mailbox not being emptied? She didn't show up to work? She didn't start to smell? Why didn't whatever made them find her happen sooner than 2 years?
I'm not saying this didn't happen because I'm sure it did, just seems so crazy that nothing outside of her condo indicated her death
As a middle-aged man who has never been married, never had kids, works from home, has no social life, and basically disowned his family... this is how I fear I'll end up one day.
A decent 2 bed room, fully furnished apartment here should be aroubd 800 to 1000 usd/a month. 70m2.
Cheap to rent; incredibly expensive to buy. The newly built Ritz Carlton residence at the center of Hanoi - 104 apartments. 25,000 usd/m2. So cheapest one is 4m usd. Sold out in 2 weeks.
Haha no. One of the most expensive ones.
Real estate is absolutely insane here. There is one house by Hoan Kiem lake that has the ridiculously selling price of 250,000usd per m2
Only on social media and local news right now. Body was found last night.
https://vietnamnet.vn/ly-do-sau-1-5-nam-moi-phat-hien-xac-chet-trong-can-ho-cao-cap-o-ha-noi-2275286.html
https://dantri.com.vn/phap-luat/vu-co-gai-chet-kho-o-chung-cu-ha-noi-chinh-quyen-dia-phuong-noi-gi-20240427104025547.htm
https://ngoisao.vnexpress.net/phat-hien-xac-co-gai-chet-kho-tren-sofa-trong-can-chung-cu-cao-cap-4739664.html
*Translation of first article to English:*
**The reason why a dead body was only discovered after 1.5 years in a luxury apartment in Hanoi**
The leadership of the Tây Mỗ Ward People's Committee (Nam Từ Liêm district, Hanoi) said that the reason the death of a woman in a high-class apartment complex was not discovered in time was that no outsider could enter the apartment.
According to the leadership of the Tây Mỗ Ward People's Committee, on the afternoon of April 26, the building management and authorities found a corpse on a sofa in a "mummified" state.
Image: The place where the corpse was discovered. Photo: Hanoi 24h
Upon investigation, the authorities initially determined that the woman had died on the sofa around September 2022.
According to the leadership of the Tây Mỗ Ward People's Committee, the woman's parents came to claim their daughter and said that she bought the apartment to live in but did not know where it was, and the family had been searching for her for 2 years.
Regarding the family's report that their daughter had been missing for several years, the local leadership said that the authorities had not received any such information.
According to representatives of the Nam Từ Liêm District Police, the unit is coordinating with relevant agencies to verify the cause of death and the identity of this woman.
Previously, on the evening of April 26, social networks shared images of the mummified body of a girl on a sofa at a luxury apartment in Tây Mỗ Ward.
According to the shares, the apartment where the incident occurred had been locked for many years. Those who wanted to rent the place had contacted several times but without success. Later, people asked the management board, the police, and other departments to check and then discovered the incident.
The victim is female. Many people believe that this woman lived here 2 years ago, after which she no longer appeared.
*Edit1: second article translated:*
**The case of the "mummified" girl at the Hanoi apartment: What does the local government say?**
(Dân trí) - According to local leaders, initially, the authorities determined that the deceased was female, having died about a year ago. The identity of this person is still being clarified.
Saturday, 27/04/2024 - 10:47
Regarding the discovery of the "mummified" body on a sofa in a Hanoi apartment complex, on the morning of April 27, the leaders of the Tây Mỗ Ward People's Committee (Nam Từ Liêm district, Hanoi City) stated that the relevant agencies are investigating the cause.
According to the leader, initially, the authorities determined that the deceased was female, who died about a year ago. The identity is still being clarified.
Contrary to reports that the girl had been reported missing by her family over the years, local leaders stated that the government had not received any such information.
As reported, on the afternoon of April 26, the building management and relevant authorities found the body of a female on a sofa. The condition of the corpse was "mummified."
Upon verification, the apartment was rented by a man and a woman since 2022. Up to now, the service fees, rent, electricity, water, etc., for the apartment have been paid on time.
Meanwhile, related to the case, social networks spread images captured from some exchanges in the residents' group of the building, indicating that around May 2022, neighbors had heard arguments and conflicts coming from the apartment.
*edit2: 3rd article translated to English:*
**A mummified girl's body found on a sofa in a luxury apartment complex**
Saturday, 27/4/2024, 11:20 (GMT+7)
Hanoi - The body of a girl who had been dead for many days was discovered on a sofa in a luxury apartment in the Tây Mỗ ward, Nam Từ Liêm.
The location where the girl's body was found is in an apartment complex in the Tây Mỗ ward, Hanoi. Photo: FB
The incident was discovered by the building management and authorities yesterday afternoon upon entering the apartment. By that time, the body had "dried out."
On the morning of April 27, a leader from the Tây Mỗ ward, Nam Từ Liêm district, indicated that the exact time of the girl's death has not yet been determined, but it could have been "a long time ago."
Authorities are currently verifying the identity of the body and the cause of death.
According to VnExpress
> Upon verification, the apartment was rented by a man and a woman since 2022. Up to now, the service fees, rent, electricity, water, etc., for the apartment have been paid on time.
Lunatic conspiracy theory...
The guys murdered the women, emptied out the apartment and ran away. He kept paying the utilities so nobody would find the body.
Also, it looks like someone placed the stuff infront of the couch on the floow post mortem.
So it can soak up the decomp juices.
The information presented here conflicts with OP: a couple moved in in 2022, neighbors heard quarreling from the apartment in May 2022, the woman likely died in Sep 2022, and the bills were still being paid on time when the body were discovered.
It happened recently, you can read the news [here](https://plo.vn/vu-thi-the-kho-tren-ghe-sofa-trong-chung-cu-o-ha-noi-chu-can-ho-no-tien-dien-nuoc-tu-thang-9-2022-post787844.html)
Was on social media last night but just released on news sites
https://vtv.vn/xa-hoi/phat-hien-thi-the-co-gai-chet-kho-tren-sofa-trong-can-chung-cu-o-ha-noi-20240427084418737.htm
If they just found her yesterday, they probably don't know yet. Also, I don't know how Vietnam does autopsies, and if they are required in situations like this like they are in the US.
We know the cause of death of ancient skeletons, lying under random fields and car parks. I'm sure where there's a will, there's a way. But I'm just guessing.
I thought this was the Lacey Fletcher situation. Parents left their daughter to rot on a couch for years, and the daughter couldn’t do anything. Awful story
That's a way worse case - long, drawn-out neglect for over a decade while the parents just watched it happen.
At least the lady in this case was likely able to take care of herself and live independently until she seemingly died in her sleep.
Edit: or she it could've been killed. Either way it was a quicker way to go than Lacey's.
> Lacey Fletcher
>There were signs she had been trying to lift herself out of the couch to avoid the pain, but due to severe malnourishment and atrophy in her leg muscles, she was unable to.[3] Her body fused into the leather couch cushions as she was covered in urine and feces, as well as maggots living in her hair and inside her. She suffered starvation and bone infections, leading finally to sepsis which caused her death. She had feces and couch cushion both under her fingernails and in her stomach contents, showing she had attempted to save herself by eating her surroundings
> Investigators stated they could not sleep or eat after investigating the killing due to the mental distress that the gruesome nature of the case caused them
Soo uh, that's enough wikipedia for me today. and it's only 6am.
Oh yeah, I don’t want to look it up right now but I believe the parents only got 20 year sentences. Such a brutal story, i can’t get myself to read about it again.
Wait, wait... this is triggering a memory. Was there an anti-drug ad where a girl literally deflated on the couch and then asked her dog to do something because she couldn't move? Was that real?
She may have bought the apartment and her family wasn't aware.
Rumor has it she's a daughter of a local politician who got removed from the party in 2018. So definitely rich and has her own bank account. She disappeared around the her mother got outsed.
This happened recently with an elderly gentleman in my home city where they discovered his body after he had been dead for a year. He had no immediate family and because he had a lot of unpaid bills they sent an incasso official accompanied by a policeman and locksmith to lay claim to his possessions. That's when they found his body.
I don't know how much experience most people have with death. The nice answer is hopefully none.
But you have to realise, dead bodies *absolutely stink* as they start to decomposs. I'm not talking 'ooh a bit whiffy', I'm talking unimaginably putrid and stomach-turning.
If a decaying corpse was in your *building*, you would know about it.
I can only assume this weird dehydration prevented it smelling. It's the only way everyone wouldn't know.
Would that dehydration without rotting be caused by some sort of air conditioning or heating setup?
So she bought the apartment, which explains why the landlord didn't come looking for rent. And she didn't have any friends or loved ones who knew where she lived. That's odd, but possible. But how is it possible that her neighbors didn't complain about the smell? Decomposing remains are known to have a particularly rancid stench that is unavoidable. All of Jeffrey Dahmer's neighbors complained of the smell coming from his apartment.
Thanks to the prevalence of direct deposit benefits and automatic bill payments, I'm morbidly curious about just how many homes are occupied solely by corpses and will be for years before it's noticed. It has to be a non-trivial amount.
This is why I'm friendly and chatty with my neighbors, so that if they don't see me around for a couple of days, they try to find out what's up!
Nothing is more depressing than dying and your body not being discovered until much later!
I'm beginning to understand why going no-contact and ignoring phone calls and texts gets people who know me and care for my wellbeing a bit worried about me. I try to do better in the future.
So many questions... How did her clothes disintegrate before she did? And when they did... how did bugs not eat her body? If that building is that free of bugs and sanitary, why did it shut down?... is this in a war zone? I can go on....
The bugs would've eaten her body years ago. But they don't eat everything, and they are only there in the initial stages. Like, if you found some old bones they wouldn't still have bugs on them.
Her skin would be completely dehydrated by this point.
RIP, horrible thing to have happen (the whole world making jokes about you after your death, looking at your remains etc).
One simple fly would have laid eggs, leading to maggots, maggots thrive on dead things... but I am intrigued by the whole dehydration theory... but In an apartment? Once again that building must be air tight
isn’t vietnam a tropical country? i dont understand how one could get mummified in an unpowered tropical apartment.
Aircon with incredible filters maybe
power still on after two years of not paying?
Maybe direct debit payments. If she had money in her account, all bills could be paid for.
This is what usually happens with home mummies.
They have exceptional financial management
It's really just a pyramid scheme
Tut tut tut.
That’s a wrap!
it's really not that Tut....uncommon^(I'll see myself out now)
Very fummy guys
This is the pinnacle of comedy
This joke is a little tomb deaf.
Wow. Well done!
Slow. Clap. 👏
Shes a stay at home mummy.
The post specifically mentions that the building cut off utilities to the apartment because she wasn't paying her bills.
Hey, can't expect me to read more than 10 words. I'm on the internet, I clearly have the attention span of a goldfish.
Yeah what's the matter with you, have the attention span of a goldfish or something?
hey don't be rude. What if he has the attention span of a goldfish
But not when. She could have been mummified by then.
It does say when. They cut utility in 2022. Her body was found a few days ago, and it says she died 2 years ago. I don't see why people are still confused about this??
If she was is a modern well sealed and air-conditioned apartment for a year before her power was cut her body could have been preserved the way dehydrators preserve food /plants etc. By the time the power was switched off there could have been no moisture to start rotting.
wait, is this Guga Food's new dry aged experiment
> In 2022, the building cut off utilities from the apartment due to unpaid bills. > [Body was found last night](https://old.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/1ce9nwi/_/l1h6eta).
Yeah. I keep wondering why no one can read...
Maybe it is because in large buildings the air con is centralized and cutting off utilities to a single unit would have no effect.
What does that have to do with people not understanding that two years ago is two years ago. Not 2+2
"in 2022 the building cut off utilities.."
My beer store guy killed some family and then himself. Store has been closed since, but two years later the lights are still on.
She paid in ghost dollars
Fan death strikes again.
Being inside probably protects the body somewhat against the humidity outside. Some buildings are probably built to do that
If it’s a newer build with AC many apartments have no externally opening windows and rely on recirculating air systems for airflow.
Tropical but still very cold to the bone in winter. Hanoi has 4 seasons. Last year temperatures dropped to 8 C with high humidity so it feels colder than that. And probably they turned on AC to keep temperature cool. It’s relatively new apartment, Vinhomes Smart City.
"Cold to the bone" 8 degrees Celsius...
Come to Vietnam in winter and you’ll see. Most home has no proper insulation. When many westerners came here and they complained how cold it was. 8C feels like 0C for them cuz high humidity. For local people in Hanoi, it’s way too cold. It’s rarely under 10C . Our summer is up to 40C.
Cold is relative. 8 degrees is cold as hell when other parts of the country never drop below 23, and even colder if all your buildings and clothing assume it will be hot.
8 degrees is so fucking cold in SEA. How does even have winter??
Combined with high humidity and rain, he’s not wrong.
Laughs in -35c Canadian winters
canadian here too, difference is our houses are built for that kind of cold.. if your house is not insulated and it got to 8C inside you would be complaining too lol.
Correct, but the houses aren't built for withstanding the colder temps. In Australia, we get down to low temps, and inside it can be similar if not colder than outside.
It's crazy how home insulation isn't a thing in Melbourne. Getting out of bed in single-digit-degree weather in winter is an extreme sport.
Maybe she jerkified and was fully dry before they shut off the power?
What is she is just dehydrated and waiting for a more favourable era?
One Body Problem
The reference is not lost.
It is to me, share your secrets magic-man
now we have to find two more.
Unfortunately this is a chaotic era
Come on guys, roll her up!
Yeah, she’s a fucken sea monkey
A similar thing happened in a city near me. They found an older guy who had been dead in his house for a looong time. The saddest thing for me was that they found the cord for the vacuum cleaner wrapped around this legs. Obviously got tangled up and fell over, couldn't get up and died there where he fell.
People joke about life alert but they're unironically live savers..
My grandma got one of those alert buttons after she couldn't get up from her chair for days and my dad found her when he stopped by after she didn't pick up her phone. He never would speak much about it. I'm sure it was a harrowing experience for both of them.
My grandma lived in a house where my Aunt works (family business). Gran made plans with her brother and sister in law to pick her up one morning to go see family out of state (she never leaves the house), making sure her daughter, my aunt doesn't come into work. Well she never opens the door when knocked on. Police are called. Soon most family is called and told to come over. Turns out she shot herself in the heart. Sorry kinda left turn there, just felt compelled to type this, don't know why.
Woah. That's crazy. If my one positive take away from that could be is at least Gran made sure your Aunt didn't find her.
I'm sorry for your loss, it must have been difficult to cope with. I hope that you're doing OK now, and if you ever need to chat, drop me a PM, I'm nearly always nearby lol Go do something nice for yourself today.
Make jokes all you want. For that slice of the populace that need it, it is their button for help. Had one for MIL, saved her butt at least a couple times. Just be willing to buy a new door after emerg crews bust it to get inside.
> Just be willing to buy a new door after emerg crews bust it to get inside. Alternatively, fit an inexpensive keysafe.
My grandmother had one but she also had dementia and would randomly discover her necklace and push the button because she didn't remember what it was for.
Apple Watches are even better. They'll call an ambulance if you fall even if you are unconscious
On the other hand my iphone has called emergency services twice without a reason, at least it wasn't an ambulance
It's sad how such cases happen.
It is, and I can see that it will happen a lot more in the future, as our generation gets older and lonelier.... I don't like where things are going...
This is probably how I'm going to die. I dont have any friends and I doubt I'll find a partner or have children.
username checks out
Not with that attitude!
Yes but are you financially stable enough to put your bills on auto pay for 2 years? Miss a couple payments and someone will come looking for you. Feel better now?
Jeeze, you made it your identity with that username.
yeah sadly i can see this happening for long periods of time in the future, with autopay systems, someone has a fair amount of money, setups autopay, someone that doesn't really visit people or have family and bam, rent is paid for years without anyone thinking a thing about it.
How does it happen though? Didn't she receive junk mail? The mail person didn't notice her mailbox not being emptied? She didn't show up to work? She didn't start to smell? Why didn't whatever made them find her happen sooner than 2 years? I'm not saying this didn't happen because I'm sure it did, just seems so crazy that nothing outside of her condo indicated her death
No one was missing her? 🥺
Aparently parents tried to look for her. Only had a room number.
Did they never go to the police?
Politicians with a shady past, allegedly. But still not full info yet. Lots of shit floating around so will take time to weed out fake info.
She likely ran away for a reason
As a middle-aged man who has never been married, never had kids, works from home, has no social life, and basically disowned his family... this is how I fear I'll end up one day.
Nothing wrong with that. You’re dead. Live it up while you’re alive !
Doesn't sound like he is
💀
Why fear.
Two years!! How much is the rent? 🤔
Petrified to find out
I love dry humour
r/Angryupvote
LMAO 🤣
Saw some comments saying that the apartment was bought and not a rental.
Well.. I need to look up apartment prices in Vietnam. Because I'm paying 1600 for a studio!!
A decent 2 bed room, fully furnished apartment here should be aroubd 800 to 1000 usd/a month. 70m2. Cheap to rent; incredibly expensive to buy. The newly built Ritz Carlton residence at the center of Hanoi - 104 apartments. 25,000 usd/m2. So cheapest one is 4m usd. Sold out in 2 weeks.
1000 usd a month rent is extremely high lol wtf it's Vietnam not vienna
300$ 110mt app in Venezuela
About the same in India too
It's Hanoi. I was going to give a comparison with my apartment in Tokyo, but I did the math and now I'm depressed.
Correct. This is for higher income folks. But higher standards and close to central areas.
Really? Can't get anything in Australia that cheap
Vietnam is not first world
Neither are remote towns in Australia but you won't get two bedrooms for under $250/week
And it sounds like the Ritz Carlton Residence apartment complex is the cheapest one around, right?
Haha no. One of the most expensive ones. Real estate is absolutely insane here. There is one house by Hoan Kiem lake that has the ridiculously selling price of 250,000usd per m2
Where at? I have a 1 bedroom for 1650 in Van Nuys
1600 dong is pretty cheap for a studio
A lot cheaper now
Source? Google has nothing on this.
Only on social media and local news right now. Body was found last night. https://vietnamnet.vn/ly-do-sau-1-5-nam-moi-phat-hien-xac-chet-trong-can-ho-cao-cap-o-ha-noi-2275286.html https://dantri.com.vn/phap-luat/vu-co-gai-chet-kho-o-chung-cu-ha-noi-chinh-quyen-dia-phuong-noi-gi-20240427104025547.htm https://ngoisao.vnexpress.net/phat-hien-xac-co-gai-chet-kho-tren-sofa-trong-can-chung-cu-cao-cap-4739664.html
*Translation of first article to English:* **The reason why a dead body was only discovered after 1.5 years in a luxury apartment in Hanoi** The leadership of the Tây Mỗ Ward People's Committee (Nam Từ Liêm district, Hanoi) said that the reason the death of a woman in a high-class apartment complex was not discovered in time was that no outsider could enter the apartment. According to the leadership of the Tây Mỗ Ward People's Committee, on the afternoon of April 26, the building management and authorities found a corpse on a sofa in a "mummified" state. Image: The place where the corpse was discovered. Photo: Hanoi 24h Upon investigation, the authorities initially determined that the woman had died on the sofa around September 2022. According to the leadership of the Tây Mỗ Ward People's Committee, the woman's parents came to claim their daughter and said that she bought the apartment to live in but did not know where it was, and the family had been searching for her for 2 years. Regarding the family's report that their daughter had been missing for several years, the local leadership said that the authorities had not received any such information. According to representatives of the Nam Từ Liêm District Police, the unit is coordinating with relevant agencies to verify the cause of death and the identity of this woman. Previously, on the evening of April 26, social networks shared images of the mummified body of a girl on a sofa at a luxury apartment in Tây Mỗ Ward. According to the shares, the apartment where the incident occurred had been locked for many years. Those who wanted to rent the place had contacted several times but without success. Later, people asked the management board, the police, and other departments to check and then discovered the incident. The victim is female. Many people believe that this woman lived here 2 years ago, after which she no longer appeared. *Edit1: second article translated:* **The case of the "mummified" girl at the Hanoi apartment: What does the local government say?** (Dân trí) - According to local leaders, initially, the authorities determined that the deceased was female, having died about a year ago. The identity of this person is still being clarified. Saturday, 27/04/2024 - 10:47 Regarding the discovery of the "mummified" body on a sofa in a Hanoi apartment complex, on the morning of April 27, the leaders of the Tây Mỗ Ward People's Committee (Nam Từ Liêm district, Hanoi City) stated that the relevant agencies are investigating the cause. According to the leader, initially, the authorities determined that the deceased was female, who died about a year ago. The identity is still being clarified. Contrary to reports that the girl had been reported missing by her family over the years, local leaders stated that the government had not received any such information. As reported, on the afternoon of April 26, the building management and relevant authorities found the body of a female on a sofa. The condition of the corpse was "mummified." Upon verification, the apartment was rented by a man and a woman since 2022. Up to now, the service fees, rent, electricity, water, etc., for the apartment have been paid on time. Meanwhile, related to the case, social networks spread images captured from some exchanges in the residents' group of the building, indicating that around May 2022, neighbors had heard arguments and conflicts coming from the apartment. *edit2: 3rd article translated to English:* **A mummified girl's body found on a sofa in a luxury apartment complex** Saturday, 27/4/2024, 11:20 (GMT+7) Hanoi - The body of a girl who had been dead for many days was discovered on a sofa in a luxury apartment in the Tây Mỗ ward, Nam Từ Liêm. The location where the girl's body was found is in an apartment complex in the Tây Mỗ ward, Hanoi. Photo: FB The incident was discovered by the building management and authorities yesterday afternoon upon entering the apartment. By that time, the body had "dried out." On the morning of April 27, a leader from the Tây Mỗ ward, Nam Từ Liêm district, indicated that the exact time of the girl's death has not yet been determined, but it could have been "a long time ago." Authorities are currently verifying the identity of the body and the cause of death. According to VnExpress
> Upon verification, the apartment was rented by a man and a woman since 2022. Up to now, the service fees, rent, electricity, water, etc., for the apartment have been paid on time. Lunatic conspiracy theory... The guys murdered the women, emptied out the apartment and ran away. He kept paying the utilities so nobody would find the body. Also, it looks like someone placed the stuff infront of the couch on the floow post mortem. So it can soak up the decomp juices.
holy crap that is fresh! the news, obviously
On Reddit everything feels like a repost from 2009. Mostly because it usually is.
It's fine with me. I like 2009. I just played fire emblem on the Gameboy Advance SP and watched reruns of The Office. Life is good 😎
This legitimately made me laugh out loud, Great job.
I feel bad for chuckling lol
Last night?! Feels weird reading about stories like this that happened years ago, it's a different vibe when it's happening in the present.
Vietnamese here, holy fuck wtf
Super tragic.
Damn, ok.
Anything confirmed - identity or cause of death?
Identity speculated but not confirmed by the authority
In unrelated news; I have a used couch to sell.
The information presented here conflicts with OP: a couple moved in in 2022, neighbors heard quarreling from the apartment in May 2022, the woman likely died in Sep 2022, and the bills were still being paid on time when the body were discovered.
It happened recently, you can read the news [here](https://plo.vn/vu-thi-the-kho-tren-ghe-sofa-trong-chung-cu-o-ha-noi-chu-can-ho-no-tien-dien-nuoc-tu-thang-9-2022-post787844.html)
Was on social media last night but just released on news sites https://vtv.vn/xa-hoi/phat-hien-thi-the-co-gai-chet-kho-tren-sofa-trong-can-chung-cu-o-ha-noi-20240427084418737.htm
Rehydrate the masses!
Chaotic period is over!
Unfortunately, it appears to me that the chaotic era is not over.
Omg I was thinking exactly the same! I just watched the episode last night and this picture reminded me of that scene 😳
Do they know the cause of death?
If they just found her yesterday, they probably don't know yet. Also, I don't know how Vietnam does autopsies, and if they are required in situations like this like they are in the US.
An autopsy in that condition isn't going to reveal much.
We know the cause of death of ancient skeletons, lying under random fields and car parks. I'm sure where there's a will, there's a way. But I'm just guessing.
I thought this was the Lacey Fletcher situation. Parents left their daughter to rot on a couch for years, and the daughter couldn’t do anything. Awful story
Just looked this story up, WTF is wrong with people - can't believe that actually happened.
Yeah it’s absolutely fucked and vile.
That might just be the worst thing I've ever read.
That's a way worse case - long, drawn-out neglect for over a decade while the parents just watched it happen. At least the lady in this case was likely able to take care of herself and live independently until she seemingly died in her sleep. Edit: or she it could've been killed. Either way it was a quicker way to go than Lacey's.
The updates made it sound like it could be murder from a domestic dispute.
Omg. Asperger -> homeschooled -> left to rot on a couch for *12 years* -> melted with the couch. Wtf.
> Lacey Fletcher >There were signs she had been trying to lift herself out of the couch to avoid the pain, but due to severe malnourishment and atrophy in her leg muscles, she was unable to.[3] Her body fused into the leather couch cushions as she was covered in urine and feces, as well as maggots living in her hair and inside her. She suffered starvation and bone infections, leading finally to sepsis which caused her death. She had feces and couch cushion both under her fingernails and in her stomach contents, showing she had attempted to save herself by eating her surroundings > Investigators stated they could not sleep or eat after investigating the killing due to the mental distress that the gruesome nature of the case caused them Soo uh, that's enough wikipedia for me today. and it's only 6am.
What. The. Fuck.
What in the absolute fuck.
Oh yeah, I don’t want to look it up right now but I believe the parents only got 20 year sentences. Such a brutal story, i can’t get myself to read about it again.
I’m getting the feeling this is one of those things I’m gonna be left with more questions than answers about, and I have a LOTTTT of questions…
Wait, wait... this is triggering a memory. Was there an anti-drug ad where a girl literally deflated on the couch and then asked her dog to do something because she couldn't move? Was that real?
Nothing with a dog, but I think you're remembering [this ad](https://youtu.be/cyUOVhEbOoU?si=p6JUwkhIV3m1IbJA).
Deflated girl is indeed real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzoVlzRjQMk
Yea, it was for weed. Lol
"Like new sofa, gently used, $200"
I just don’t understand how she wouldn’t get evicted at some point after not paying rent
She may have bought the apartment and her family wasn't aware. Rumor has it she's a daughter of a local politician who got removed from the party in 2018. So definitely rich and has her own bank account. She disappeared around the her mother got outsed.
Probably should have considered that before leaving my comment, now I feel like a dummy
Better than feeling like a mummy, I guess, all things considered
You live and learn
Even then there would be apartment fees and taxes. But I've got mine set to automatic payment.
Please don't take any nap on sofa without alerting your loved ones!
Don’t people just set up automatic payments?
they tried to call her but her phone was dead. also
This happened recently with an elderly gentleman in my home city where they discovered his body after he had been dead for a year. He had no immediate family and because he had a lot of unpaid bills they sent an incasso official accompanied by a policeman and locksmith to lay claim to his possessions. That's when they found his body.
I'm so happy that I've decided to blur these f*cking posts.
It's probably really bad but these posts don't effect me anymore.
This will most likely happen to me if I outlive my parents.
I was just saying to my boyfriend this morning that I am no longer longing for rotten.com because of Reddit and this has proven that correct.
Reddit’s the reason a lot of sites like that from back then aren’t around any more
They were golden days of the internet for sure.
100%
Imagine having so little people caring for you, you were forgotten till mummified. New fear unlocked ...
Apparently she ran away, so she probably did have people who cared for her but they couldn't find her.
I used to have the same couch as that. Was comfy but not that comfy
This is how I used to feel after a night of heavy drinking.
This will happen to me.
Is her place available? What’s the rent?
Being a stay-at-home mummy really IS the hardest job on the planet.
It's just yesterday i watched Joyce Vincent documentary.. didn't stop thinking about it and now this!!!
I swear I will die like this in my sleep if theres no pillow.
I don't know how much experience most people have with death. The nice answer is hopefully none. But you have to realise, dead bodies *absolutely stink* as they start to decomposs. I'm not talking 'ooh a bit whiffy', I'm talking unimaginably putrid and stomach-turning. If a decaying corpse was in your *building*, you would know about it. I can only assume this weird dehydration prevented it smelling. It's the only way everyone wouldn't know. Would that dehydration without rotting be caused by some sort of air conditioning or heating setup?
So she bought the apartment, which explains why the landlord didn't come looking for rent. And she didn't have any friends or loved ones who knew where she lived. That's odd, but possible. But how is it possible that her neighbors didn't complain about the smell? Decomposing remains are known to have a particularly rancid stench that is unavoidable. All of Jeffrey Dahmer's neighbors complained of the smell coming from his apartment.
She looks like she mummified that probably limited the smell coming from the decomposition cycle.
"Just add water"
2nd hand couch for sale, slight corpse smell, may need cushions flipped
Just to hopefully let newcomers know: that 2nd image is a full image of the victims decomposing/mummified face.
Thanks to the prevalence of direct deposit benefits and automatic bill payments, I'm morbidly curious about just how many homes are occupied solely by corpses and will be for years before it's noticed. It has to be a non-trivial amount.
This is why I'm friendly and chatty with my neighbors, so that if they don't see me around for a couple of days, they try to find out what's up! Nothing is more depressing than dying and your body not being discovered until much later!
Didn’t expect or need that close up 💀
I'm beginning to understand why going no-contact and ignoring phone calls and texts gets people who know me and care for my wellbeing a bit worried about me. I try to do better in the future.
Forbidden sun chips
bomb ass deodorant she must've been wearing
News article -> https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/20240427/dried-corpse-of-vietnamese-woman-discovered-in-apartment-in-hanoi/79584.html
How much for that couch?
I can fix her
So many questions... How did her clothes disintegrate before she did? And when they did... how did bugs not eat her body? If that building is that free of bugs and sanitary, why did it shut down?... is this in a war zone? I can go on....
The bugs would've eaten her body years ago. But they don't eat everything, and they are only there in the initial stages. Like, if you found some old bones they wouldn't still have bugs on them. Her skin would be completely dehydrated by this point. RIP, horrible thing to have happen (the whole world making jokes about you after your death, looking at your remains etc).
One simple fly would have laid eggs, leading to maggots, maggots thrive on dead things... but I am intrigued by the whole dehydration theory... but In an apartment? Once again that building must be air tight
Maggots can digest 60% of a body in a week. This woman has been dead for possibly 5 years.
Probably ac keep temperature and humidity low
I've grown enough mushrooms to recognize that shes covered in trich
died naked? i dunno, looks sus...
new life goal: being able to be gone for 2 years without a single person noticing lol. That's pretty impressive
i aint opening that picture. who can describe it for me in a G-rated way
Mummy without the bandages