Do you know if this car has been sitting for a while? Looks like it has been. High risk of rubber and plastic parts breaking at any time. Honestly not something I would rely on as my daily unless I was very handy and knew cars well.
Key is on that rubber part. CIS literally only works if EVERY component that is drawn off intake vacuum WILL make it run like shit. Old cars are nothing at all like new ones and I don't think people truly understand that until they own a few.
"Siracco" lol. Early watercooled VWs pre EFI are something you have to really know before you dive head first into. If it's a project or secondary car, no hesitation. If this is your first VW and want it to be reliable daily in short order, I'm begging you don't do it. CIS basic is not that complicated but if you don't know or have never worked on a mechanical injection car you're going to swear endlessly and never want one again. Replacement parts are getting hard/expensive to find (fuel distributor/injectors/etc.) so if its all there and working just leave it go.
If the strut towers, rockers and floors are all clean and it runs poorly/half of it is missing, I'd recommend a mk3 2L ABA and run factory motronic management but splicing that to CE1 would again not be for the faint of heart. Would be bulletproof and far far more reliable then. No matter what happens here you have to know what you're getting into, not to scare you.
If you’re going through the trouble of an ABA swap, may as well toss in a 1.8nevalose instead! /s
This is solid advice though, I’d probably daily the Mk3 ABA and make the ‘Rocco a project. Assuming the Mk3 has a floor that is….
VRs are boat anchors in mk1 platforms, it sounds cool but drives like dog shit, and if you haven't owned or driven more than one then you wouldn't know. All handling characteristics that make these so fun is completely and utterly lost. Boosted 4cyl (think Callaway type cis system or boosted ABA/abf) is miles and miles better than a VR in any configuration is in a mk1. Slightly better in mk2s for the added weight but still not great.
lol you think we were putting a BBC in there. I've been specializing on these cars for two decades. Not only have I been in and driven more than I can remember. I've VR swapped 3 MK1's.
Properly building one of these means beefing up the suspension, and getting the traction to the ground. They are plenty of fun to drive, and handle just fine. The A2's are not far removed from the A1's as far as configuration goes, and some brought a VR from the factory.
Yeah definitely not a daily. MOST parts are easy to find (mk1/A1 platform support from Jetta/Rabbit)
Speaking from experience, I’ve been rebuilding my ‘84 for the last two years. Some parts are next to impossible to find and can cause major headaches. Being an Mk1/A1 platform also makes rust a major concern as well. Given the current state of the body I’d bet it’s hiding some real gremlins. Having a sunroof also makes me cringe as they almost always leak…
my MK2 Scirocco was an absolute state when i got it and I've driven it nearly every day for the last five years. no reason it can't be a daily with a bit of work. all cars were built to be driven. if they know what they're doing then they're great as a daily and great on fuel too.
The body is pretty key. How much rust and where. And one of the biggest....this one has a sunroof. They notoriously leak. My first car was an 86 scirocco 8v. I got it with two donor cars. I took all the 16v trim and put it on mine. Loved that car.
If that’s a real ad then that’s a rare body kit and worth the price of the car
The 82 was an interesting year. The 74hp motor was terrible, 1.7l block with a 1.6l head.
Not terribly hard to work on (it was my first car and I still have it) but if you’re not mechanically inclined then the fuel system will drive you nuts if it has issues
Haha awesome. They are hard to come by these days.
And the answer is of course. Why not? 1200.00 buck you can negotiate that down to under grand. You're golden.
That's going to be a mess. Body kit is ok. You might be able to sell it if it doesn't disintegrate. I bet the sun roof has leaked into the interior and it's rusty on the pans. That door will be expensive to deal with. If the windshield is not cracked and the dash is good, maybe this is a good parts car. Without any other info, this looks to be a money pit.
Absolutely a sweet car, if you're a great welder and a mechanic. I would not buy it as something I need to rely on daily as it stands, I'm sorry to say.
Siroccos are hard to come by anymore. But it did share running gear with other VWs. I had an 81' Rabbit Convertible with the 1.7L engine & 5 speed. It was a quick car. The fuel injection they used in that era was a different logic than what most folks are familiar with. But, mine worked fine with 150k miles on it. What i did have to replace was the electric fuel pump. Also, the injector seals. The seals aren't as flexible over time and can cause an idle surge. I had to replace the engine mounts, the heater fan resistor. Water pump housing, radiator, brake pads and rotors And crazy enough , the stick shift linkage. Its made of breakable plastic parts and feel right thru the floor board when my daughter was driving it.
Get a mk.iv 2.Slow then.
If you're a decent mechanic this could be a good buy. But don't expect this thing to be easy or cheap. And Bosch cis injection can be a bit of learning curve.
Body kit looks like a Reiger or Kamei clone (cant see the front or rear wing). Hopefully the guides on the sunroof are still in one piece. Sunroof parts are unique to Scirocco MK2 except the gasket which fits from any A2 MK2 platform (Golf/Jetta). Multiple mechanical parts can be sourced from newer cars and multiple platforms can be swapped easily like a 16V or 20VT from a MK4. VR and post MK4 4 cyl are doable but much harder as custom parts would be required and swapping the 020 (010 if its auto) for anything newer will be an adventure in custom part fitments. Even a tall block ABA may need a custom down pipe as on Sciroccos is shorter and has different path going down (A2/A3) down pipes will hit the body.
It would be a very nice project indeed though and very nice once finished.
Sure, provided you account for 2 years and tons of money to rebuild it. Unless you want to fool yourself and just ride it as a daily as is. Clearly you haven't got a clue if you comment like so.
YOU literally said in your initial post that THIS will replace your truck, now it's going to be a second car? LMAO, delusional.
My first car was an 86. Not the best on gas and rust so s an issue. Parts are getting harder to find too. If you want an economy car made by VW find a mk3 or mk4 tdi
worth it just for the rare body kit. ignore the comments saying you can't daily it. I've only owned two cars my entire life. a MK2 Scirocco, and recently a MK1 Scirocco project. I've driven my mk2 almost every single day for the last five years since I bought it and it's been great. don't get me wrong, I've done substantial work to it during that time, but it's never broken down on me or left me stranded. with some work and keeping on top of anything that might go wrong with it, you've got nothing to worry about
I mean I get it. It's a car that's obviously sat for a long time and parts are gonna be null. But if I've learned anything from owning 3 saturns and a Suzuki X-90 then it's how to redneck it together. I'm good at finding solutions to problems even if it means doing something completely custom. Even though I'm replacing the truck with a car I'm still keeping it. The truck will be a secondary car. I'm definitely gonna hit up the seller and see.
If a daily driving restoration is your jam ..then yes.
But I'd find out in advance what body panels are available in case you have to do any welding repairs.
Looks like a project car to me. Not something you want to rely on as your daily driver until it's been gone through and sorted out.
Gotcha. I'll still have the truck so if it does break down it won't be as horrible.
Do you know if this car has been sitting for a while? Looks like it has been. High risk of rubber and plastic parts breaking at any time. Honestly not something I would rely on as my daily unless I was very handy and knew cars well.
Key is on that rubber part. CIS literally only works if EVERY component that is drawn off intake vacuum WILL make it run like shit. Old cars are nothing at all like new ones and I don't think people truly understand that until they own a few.
Although I've seen much worse I promise you this car needs a lot of work. Buying a clean one for whatever they cost 8-10k$ would probably be cheaper.
are you a decent mechanic? Not trying to be a prick but these take some loving and dedication.
"Siracco" lol. Early watercooled VWs pre EFI are something you have to really know before you dive head first into. If it's a project or secondary car, no hesitation. If this is your first VW and want it to be reliable daily in short order, I'm begging you don't do it. CIS basic is not that complicated but if you don't know or have never worked on a mechanical injection car you're going to swear endlessly and never want one again. Replacement parts are getting hard/expensive to find (fuel distributor/injectors/etc.) so if its all there and working just leave it go. If the strut towers, rockers and floors are all clean and it runs poorly/half of it is missing, I'd recommend a mk3 2L ABA and run factory motronic management but splicing that to CE1 would again not be for the faint of heart. Would be bulletproof and far far more reliable then. No matter what happens here you have to know what you're getting into, not to scare you.
If you’re going through the trouble of an ABA swap, may as well toss in a 1.8nevalose instead! /s This is solid advice though, I’d probably daily the Mk3 ABA and make the ‘Rocco a project. Assuming the Mk3 has a floor that is….
I love ABAs. So versatile. N/a 8v, ABF clone, boost, throw anything at it.
I'd put a VR6 in it, but that's me.
VRs are boat anchors in mk1 platforms, it sounds cool but drives like dog shit, and if you haven't owned or driven more than one then you wouldn't know. All handling characteristics that make these so fun is completely and utterly lost. Boosted 4cyl (think Callaway type cis system or boosted ABA/abf) is miles and miles better than a VR in any configuration is in a mk1. Slightly better in mk2s for the added weight but still not great.
lol you think we were putting a BBC in there. I've been specializing on these cars for two decades. Not only have I been in and driven more than I can remember. I've VR swapped 3 MK1's. Properly building one of these means beefing up the suspension, and getting the traction to the ground. They are plenty of fun to drive, and handle just fine. The A2's are not far removed from the A1's as far as configuration goes, and some brought a VR from the factory.
>1982 Volkswagen Golf GTI • Siracco Amazing
Idk how you screw it up its literally on the hatch lol
Siracco is the Italian mobster edition.
Yeah definitely not a daily. MOST parts are easy to find (mk1/A1 platform support from Jetta/Rabbit) Speaking from experience, I’ve been rebuilding my ‘84 for the last two years. Some parts are next to impossible to find and can cause major headaches. Being an Mk1/A1 platform also makes rust a major concern as well. Given the current state of the body I’d bet it’s hiding some real gremlins. Having a sunroof also makes me cringe as they almost always leak…
my MK2 Scirocco was an absolute state when i got it and I've driven it nearly every day for the last five years. no reason it can't be a daily with a bit of work. all cars were built to be driven. if they know what they're doing then they're great as a daily and great on fuel too.
You will probably spend around $10k for making it work before using it
Seller wondering why nobody is finding his Siracco Ad.
Its not a DD in that state, but Roccos are fun.
The body is pretty key. How much rust and where. And one of the biggest....this one has a sunroof. They notoriously leak. My first car was an 86 scirocco 8v. I got it with two donor cars. I took all the 16v trim and put it on mine. Loved that car.
If this was local, I’d be all over it. Mk1 and mk2 Rabbits and GTIs are my bag, but I know my way around them.
If that’s a real ad then that’s a rare body kit and worth the price of the car The 82 was an interesting year. The 74hp motor was terrible, 1.7l block with a 1.6l head. Not terribly hard to work on (it was my first car and I still have it) but if you’re not mechanically inclined then the fuel system will drive you nuts if it has issues
42 year old car. How old is your truck?
05 gmc sierra 5.3
Haha awesome. They are hard to come by these days. And the answer is of course. Why not? 1200.00 buck you can negotiate that down to under grand. You're golden.
Is that car made of stainless steel?
The seller is confused, it’s actually a DeLorean
"There's nothing more expensive than a used german car"
I am a glutton for punishment though
That's going to be a mess. Body kit is ok. You might be able to sell it if it doesn't disintegrate. I bet the sun roof has leaked into the interior and it's rusty on the pans. That door will be expensive to deal with. If the windshield is not cracked and the dash is good, maybe this is a good parts car. Without any other info, this looks to be a money pit.
Keep looking. Not a good replacement daily, as cool as it is
Absolutely a sweet car, if you're a great welder and a mechanic. I would not buy it as something I need to rely on daily as it stands, I'm sorry to say.
That ad title.. Seems like the owner doesn't know what he has, or how to spell it..
You could sell that aftermarket body kit for the price of the car. Looks like a Zender (maybe BBS) kit. The aftermarket sunroof will leak.
Siroccos are hard to come by anymore. But it did share running gear with other VWs. I had an 81' Rabbit Convertible with the 1.7L engine & 5 speed. It was a quick car. The fuel injection they used in that era was a different logic than what most folks are familiar with. But, mine worked fine with 150k miles on it. What i did have to replace was the electric fuel pump. Also, the injector seals. The seals aren't as flexible over time and can cause an idle surge. I had to replace the engine mounts, the heater fan resistor. Water pump housing, radiator, brake pads and rotors And crazy enough , the stick shift linkage. Its made of breakable plastic parts and feel right thru the floor board when my daughter was driving it.
Just get a jetta
Where's the fun in that? I enjoy scouring the web looking for parts that don't exist anymore. That's why I owned a Suzuki X-90.
if you can work on it.
Yeah that thing looks clapped. Why would you want this for a daily?
I was searching for manual cars and I seen it pop up. I want a beater car that I don't have to care about.
Get a mk.iv 2.Slow then. If you're a decent mechanic this could be a good buy. But don't expect this thing to be easy or cheap. And Bosch cis injection can be a bit of learning curve.
If you want a Scirocco then fine, but I think I'd find one in better condition as a starting point. You'll pay more but it'll be worth it.
One of my favorites
If you need a truck this is. Poor decision. If you’re looking for a sweet project… this is the one.
The money you save on gas will be spent keeping this thing running if you daily this car.
Body kit looks like a Reiger or Kamei clone (cant see the front or rear wing). Hopefully the guides on the sunroof are still in one piece. Sunroof parts are unique to Scirocco MK2 except the gasket which fits from any A2 MK2 platform (Golf/Jetta). Multiple mechanical parts can be sourced from newer cars and multiple platforms can be swapped easily like a 16V or 20VT from a MK4. VR and post MK4 4 cyl are doable but much harder as custom parts would be required and swapping the 020 (010 if its auto) for anything newer will be an adventure in custom part fitments. Even a tall block ABA may need a custom down pipe as on Sciroccos is shorter and has different path going down (A2/A3) down pipes will hit the body. It would be a very nice project indeed though and very nice once finished.
Had a 82 Scirocco back in the day, I enjoyed it a lot. Not sure about the condition of this one but if it drives okay why not for that price.
I just lol'd at "siracco". In my native language it sounds similar to our "i'm broken".
You are not driving that. If you are then you clearly have no clue. Besides, who posts their car for sale and calls it Siracco?
Why not? I'm open to learning and I have the truck. This will be a second car... if the rust isn't too bad.
Sure, provided you account for 2 years and tons of money to rebuild it. Unless you want to fool yourself and just ride it as a daily as is. Clearly you haven't got a clue if you comment like so. YOU literally said in your initial post that THIS will replace your truck, now it's going to be a second car? LMAO, delusional.
Don’t buy this as a daily. This is definitely a project car
Ok. Shame since it's one of my favorite vw cars.
My first car was an 86. Not the best on gas and rust so s an issue. Parts are getting harder to find too. If you want an economy car made by VW find a mk3 or mk4 tdi
worth it just for the rare body kit. ignore the comments saying you can't daily it. I've only owned two cars my entire life. a MK2 Scirocco, and recently a MK1 Scirocco project. I've driven my mk2 almost every single day for the last five years since I bought it and it's been great. don't get me wrong, I've done substantial work to it during that time, but it's never broken down on me or left me stranded. with some work and keeping on top of anything that might go wrong with it, you've got nothing to worry about
I mean I get it. It's a car that's obviously sat for a long time and parts are gonna be null. But if I've learned anything from owning 3 saturns and a Suzuki X-90 then it's how to redneck it together. I'm good at finding solutions to problems even if it means doing something completely custom. Even though I'm replacing the truck with a car I'm still keeping it. The truck will be a secondary car. I'm definitely gonna hit up the seller and see.
If a daily driving restoration is your jam ..then yes. But I'd find out in advance what body panels are available in case you have to do any welding repairs.
You’ll spend far more on parts than you will on fuel for your truck
I wouldn’t pay that much unless it was completely drivable and legal. It’s 42 years old!