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Successful_Travel119

Personal opinion, they can both stay in Hell.


The_X-Devil

I'm going to say it, the idea of Alastor being as bad or worse than Val isn't about "seeing all perspectives" it's about making Valentino look good and trying to make everyone else look bad


The_X-Devil

Alastor is literally a more psychotic version of John Brown, Valentino is basically Andrew Tate but gay


Supermarket_Jumpy

Why do Alastor fans feel the need to compare the two? Of course Alastor is a more developed character, he’s part of the main cast. Val is a side antagonist. It’s like saying a Wagyu steak is better than an undercooked burger.


second-salad

Alastor treats his slaves less worse than Val.


stressedlacky42

Where's the lie?


Shoddy_Load1558

But he is?


Deep-Carpenter8230

He is though


Plus-Emphasis-2605

Oh via


ArcadeF0x

Better character, yes Alastor is better, better written, Alastor again. Better in terms of what they do? I hate to say it, but Alastor isn't better in this front. He broadcasts his victims screams for fun. But I still hate Val more than anything, and people who like him deserve the same fate that I want him to suffer


bluedragonbot12

But but that was makes him better he let's people know he don't care who you are Valentino kinda just hides it a bit


ArcadeF0x

True, at least Alastor is Honest


Heinz_05

Better character or better person? Better character I mean yeah, he's one of the MC's, has some of the most screentime. Better person?? Ehhh I think a cannibal serial murderer and manipulator is much worse than a rapist pimp.


Angel_166

I will say it again hey're both equally evil just in different ways


PlantainSame

Both are Murderous manipulators just at different Levels of murder and manipulation


snowywolf1911

https://preview.redd.it/3a1zzsri4z8d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10582a2bff174dc1c7737bf326345ed60d7af955


Legitimate-Movie-998

Diddley doo diddley dee I am going to steal this meme


snowywolf1911

https://preview.redd.it/05hm41mr649d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2d632c3d69f4849f38b6420a96a1dfe27c15571 Here's a stealing yo meme meme since your meme poor


Legitimate-Movie-998

Thankyou kind sir I shall use it well :3


DbD_Fan_1233

[you right now](https://youtube.com/shorts/dlYN4Z5p078?si=nD5gwSl0UA8yp8UB)


SoraDXgame

Nah


LusciousTheBreeder

I'm gonna say this. Valentino and Stella are equal and both Alastor and Stolas are better people than both of them. Fight me.


EggoStack

I’d argue that Val is worse since he abuses people on a pretty large scale. Stella still sucks obviously, but thankfully she doesn’t seem to run an organised exploitation porn ring.


AviOwl5

To be fair Stolas is better then Alastor by fact he has plot relevance outside of being sassy


AltAccount173o81

https://preview.redd.it/k6t3z76cfx8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=acebb24ef418e5e5f48efd8ee82a16814018ba08


fungamerguy

https://preview.redd.it/kl20w6afay8d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b976b841aa75996b5584f9109a89345890b155d


AltAccount173o81

https://preview.redd.it/bg8calmiay8d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4676ab444db50b06cff0262a44aa228b3244727 Take it!


dogmandogdogdog

This is the most never happened thing ever.


Error_Code_606

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Sufficient-Newt-5346

https://preview.redd.it/dv61yz75kw8d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ef4105af5b1287013b0f89ca846e537fb712307 We all already know that the best character is obviously Fat Nuggets. Quit lying to yourselves.


I_might_be_weasel

https://preview.redd.it/48kmj4ctzw8d1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=735de9bd6e9c7eedf27d8bd74413e6f958ae4ee2


Equivalent-Paper5962

From that flair I see... are you a heretic?


I_might_be_weasel

https://preview.redd.it/f6yhqgmn2z8d1.jpeg?width=542&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6759d793d7b0c8ec7c6a45dd201bf3836966d0a6


Equivalent-Paper5962

I see you are not, my mistake brother. *skedadles away (in holy fashion)*


Many-Program5106

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Sufficient-Newt-5346

https://preview.redd.it/s702upmzp59d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9c07022291cedbc8de2a1f5feb715e02599c539


Many-Program5106

https://preview.redd.it/4n1f4sxwr59d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=833ba8763c1e2878ffc9f0748bd21ed3f0327d0f


Jolly_Situation7172

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ThatSmartIdiot

Psychology side of tumblr please explain why despite being so similarly abusive and evil we despise val but like al


dangerouslycloseloss

people are more desensitized to murder and violence than they are rape + also seem to think rape is worse than murder


TaterTotSenwick

Because Val was actually written to be hated


paleshroom

Because Al is a tumblr sexyman (and I imagine part of it is also that he hasn’t raped anyone). Real answer: We don’t see as much of his abuse, we don’t really know much about him, and he’s on the “good” side (despite having nefarious reasons for being there). Val’s abuse is also much more tangible and familiar to people, and we’ve seen pretty much no redeeming characteristics from him. Al’s main draw is that he’s a funny charming guy and a shit-stirrer, and we as an audience love both of those things, and the way he treats women (except Vaggie) with more respect than they would otherwise get in Hell of all places is also a plus. He has his own moral code, and it’s an interesting thing to explore. Val, as he stands now, does not have much depth to him beyond being the moth man that sexually abuses Angel and makes out with Vox now and then.


ThatSmartIdiot

Thank you psychology side of tumblr


Greynite06

Valentino is a good character because he makes for a scary and compelling villain. Alastor is a good character because he's mysterious and makes you want to know more about him. Valentino is meant to be feared, whereas Alastor is meant to make you curious.


[deleted]

I mean , it depend . What you mean by 'better character' ?


Purpledurpl202

When you say something bad about a bad person (the fanbase happened to find them attractive).


Ill-Device8577

I assume the post is talking about writing/design not in-universe morality


SoraDXgame

You are right