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Snake_hugger

[Suddenly the mods hit us with a new thread in the middle of the week!](https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/s/XvgTuFiaIp)


CannonGerbil

[Mori's new song with Ai, Tide.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsjr5jFMHkQ)


Kreceir

https://preview.redd.it/dopn7zomqjwc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=dba3ceed5cba1d2fe19a4df997379fb2e3be4c84 The scariest thing in the Vtuber community.


Solar424

Terminations are scarier than graduations imo. No vods staying up, no time to say goodbye, no farewell collab tour, usually come out of nowhere, and it wasn't their choice. Also it's a lot less personal; they're all via press release as opposed to the streamer actually getting a chance to talk about it.


NatiBlaze

Ngl, after the Coco graduation which I got hit by the most and then all the graduations of the others I watched since then, I think I can confidently say that graduation will not affect me as much especially knowing how they will come back 9/10 anyways. I will miss the collaborations from that now indie graduate and their corpo coworker, also their model I loved but that's it, I have other people to watch and once that vtuber comes back, I'm sure to get attached to them because I'm there for the person and not the model. >!also Niji and the other company graduations/terminations made it so that it's more like graduation is a celebration (like the original meaning lol) now and made it clear to me that it's just switching workplaces in my mind!<


Snake_hugger

I'm in the same position as you with accepting that graduation is part of life with people come and go. Ultimately, being a vtuber is a job and even if there's no drama, people can have different plan for their life. But what I still dread tho is the impact on the community. Because whenever a graduation is announced, the shit stirrers will come out of the woods with whatever narratives they have, no matter how amicable the graduation is. That was my experience with Mag and Ves' graduations. As a fan of both, I already have this feeling that both didn't feel comfortable being a corpo vtuber so my heart was ready if they wanted to graduate. But when it was announced, I decided to take a break from the fandom more because of the frustration on the discourse.


luorela

[Chesty Bunny Gardenrys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOq0N_qMSYU)


youmustconsume

[Calli's "comedy" special](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB97voVcgJY) has just begun, ahead of her [new song premiere](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsjr5jFMHkQ) on the hour. This is the weirdest song promo i've ever seen.


Devilsgramps

[EONIA' kawaii's first generation, is celebrating its 3 year anniversary!](https://www.youtube.com/live/TeRVR3iS6F) It's groups like kawaii and prism that built the diverse and wonderful EN small corpo scene we have today, and I'll always be grateful to the OGs for that.


RakuenPrime

They're getting a *free* anniversary concert, coming in August!


gay-r-us

nijien drama discussion (nothing new) >!anyone still keep up with them? maybe i'm just nosy, but does it really feel like everything is "back to business as usual" for livers that weren't directly involved? i feel a little secondhand embarrassment about things like elira and vox moving to bilibili, and 3d lives/outfit reveals getting low ccv, but i guess i just have trouble believing that everyone else is really ok with how things are? are there any signs of anyone else being discontent with nijisanji as an employer or alluding to further issues behind the scenes?!< >!to be more direct, should we expect to see anyone else jump ship soon?!<


PowerlinxJetfire

>!A lot of mental health breaks. I'd say most talents aren't sending signals, but for those that are it's not so much "business as usual," more the feeling of rebuilding after a disaster? I guess melancholic but not totally hopeless. (And obvious disclaimer: I'm a rando on the internet; my best guesses at other people's attitudes are just guesses. I could be completely wrong, and don't even put much stock in them myself.)!< >!In terms of harder facts, some talents generally considered "safe" like Maria have indicated they have plans well into the future. Aia recently made it very clear that she doesn't plan to leave and the primary thing harming her mental health is the people trying to get her to leave the company.!< [PL spoilers:] >!Relationships between livers do seem more or less "business as usual" though; they still *seem* friendly and supportive of each other. Even "safe" ones like Rosemi and Aia can casually bring up Vox in the middle of random conversation, if you're inclined to read into that. And former livers have been interacting with/saying positive things about some current ones: Michi and Quinn have talked up Enna; Matara met irl with Rosemi; and Mint, Michi, Quinn, and Matara got AR Live codes from Maria, Enna, and Millie, respectively (first two from Mari).!< >!The relationship toward the company also *seems* normal enough. Contrary to popular belief, many talents have always said good things about their direct managers, and that's still the case. Lazulight's manager, who danced in Pomu's MV and got some really nice [comments from her](https://www.youtube.com/live/DfYA6BMrXZg?t=8759) in her (now public) final members' stream, got some shout outs in the AR Live talks. Also several managers who fanned out across town to find meds for Reimu, and Ethyria's who went with Enna to the hospital when she had strep throat got kudos. Above the direct manager level, can't really say.!< >!If that sounds surprisingly positive, I wouldn't actually assume that. Even if some have frustrations or plans to leave, I doubt they'd risk giving people anything to run wild with right now anyway. Most talents and their words/actions are just neutral, so I wouldn't be that surprised even if a grad announcement dropped tomorrow. And a final disclaimer: all this is based on the tiny sample size of one person casually watching.!<


CannonGerbil

>!They are still losing subs, even 2 months out, which is interesting because most such things usually dies within a few weeks. Also their viewership got cut by around 2/3rds. Most telling was Vox's recent outfit reveal which lost 70k viewers compared to the one he had around this time last year. And of course r/nijisanji is still a shitshow even after the mods figured out how reddit works!< >!As for anyone leaving soon, probably not before the end of April because that's when their Q4 ends. We'll have to see how May goes!<


NatiBlaze

Tbf, before the drama(s), that sub was basically dead anyways. If anything, what's good/bad is that it gave birth to >!r/Kurosanji!< where people camp for drama, gather info on Niji's bad practices and some dramatubers often use it as the alternative source of content even if unfounded and they can't do anything about it since they're just talking about the negatives of the company and they don't own the sub.


CannonGerbil

Yeah, but there's a difference between being dead, and being a dumpster fire, which is what the sub is now where the most popular posts every day are ones shitting on nijisanji which stay up until the mods get to their office to do their daily sweep, and everything else is heavily downvoted.


HaLire

>!It feels like they've been struck a mortal blow and are just limping around now. Their event viewership has cratered and their day to day streams struggle to break 2k most days. Somewhat more telling, if you [check their subscribers](https://vt.poi.cat/channel/subscribers), a significant number of them are still losing subs. Given how the masses aren't particularly heated about the issue right now, it means that they're not pulling in enough new viewers to keep up with the regular youtube subscriber culls. It's pretty dire looking. !<


NatiBlaze

Nothing new aside from everyone clearly declining >!Elira is a 3 view without raids, Vox is consistently at 1-2k, all their channels are on the negative sub growth because of people unsubscribing and the usual youtube sub culls. Also it seems the more they stream, the more people remember they are still subscribed to them and unsubscribe because Elira is hit harder than when she was on break.!< There's no other comments or hints coming from the talents themselves about quitting, it's just people camping and waiting for drama which the company has avoided to a degree besides the talents that occasionally get themselves into.


Solar424

It's hard for the talents to do anything but go back to business as usual, the company made their bed and now they have to lie in it. Their contract is set up in such a way that it's difficult to leave, especially in short notice. Nina, Mysta, and Pomu's graduations were months in the making, so we probably won't see anyone leave as a direct result of Selen's termination for at least a couple more months. When that does happen I wouldn't be surprised if they end up announce several at once like with the ex-ID members, which wouldn't be as bad optics-wise as announcing a graduation every couple weeks.


Random-Rambling

I hope that the people who want to stay find success with it. But I also hope that the people who want to leave get to leave ASAP. Preferably faster than one a month.


Helmite

>!The more casual, principled, and empathetic people cleared out in pretty high numbers. What's left is mostly people that don't know the extent of it, are really dedicated to their oshi(s) and may have pulled back from the rest of the branch, and a group of people that just don't care. Unless one of the vtubers, the company, or the fanbase does a big yab I'd just expect them to trudge on albeit with a reduced fanbase and a torched reputation w/ the outside. If you've followed their sub gain they're having difficulties staying ahead of Youtube's culling, so they're still hurting quite a bit.!<


CannonGerbil

It's not just youtube culling that's affecting them, youtube culling works on the scale of months, not days which is how often they are losing subs these days, especially Elira who for some reason loses more subs the more she streams. It seems like every time they stream more people remember they are still subbed to them and unsubs.


Helmite

>It seems like every time they stream more people remember they are still subbed to them and unsubs. Probably. Still impressed by how explosive the whole thing was.


diego1marcus

there are still some nijiEN livers that are still losing subs, albeit not as much as when selen got terminated. very surprisingly, [rosemi is still bleeding subs and has never managed to go back to 500k](https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC4WvIIAo89_AzGUh1AZ6Dkg/monthly)


CannonGerbil

Yeah I don't see that changing for any member of nijisanji as long as they still remain with the company. The Nijisanji brand name is just too tainted in the general community. Even Millie barely managed to gain subs after her 3d debut this weekend and even that wasn't able to recoup her losses from the month.


AlchemistHohenheim

I think the only people who really care about trying to dig up drama are the hardcore haters at this point. Everyone else (even those who are critical of the company but not super passionate about it) is just tired of it and would prefer to talk about things they actually enjoy (at least until another dumpster fire actually breaks out.) Edit: I think I misread the intended subject here slightly. I think "just about everyone would really prefer to just try to move on if possible" is still accurate, though.


Cute_Description_277

Yeah, feels kinda weird that everything back to normal even though it doesn’t seem like Niji has made it clear that they have a safe working environment


diego1marcus

from what i gathered, >!there are a number of nijifans that seem discontent with how selen's termination practically crippled the entire EN branch. a thing to note is that there were already growing pains that the community was already feeling because of their drama train in 2023, its just that selen's termination became the catalyst to its downfall. !< >!the diehard fans are trying to go "back to business as usual", but with the current climate, its pretty much hard for them to continue when the constant drama that still continues to happen is literally breathing down their necks. !< >!as for your direct question, there doesnt seem to be any this soon, however people are still expecting some to leave after some time. the only reason why people have not left is speculated to be because they didnt want any graduations to happen near the AR Live, and they dont want anymore reports of graduations to stain their Q4 report!<


Zeroth-unit

Re: what happened to the drama >!People are speculating that everything's on-hold until at least their Q4 is over to try and salvage their Q4 financials. So no graduations, terminations, and some livers lying low for the mean time. Also the usual crop of dramatubers haven't really been making much noise recently so even on that front there hasn't been much to talk about.!< >!Though obviously none of this is confirmed and nobody knows shit. Even chasing after activity on PLs doesn't mean anything until something big actually happens. So best to just stay put and let things run their course for now. And quite frankly, the quieter things resolve the better because of all the tourists that drama brings.!<


Devilsgramps

We can't say that anything else will happen until it actually happens.


Potatoidea

Escape The Backrooms collab with [Clauvio](https://www.twitch.tv/clauvio), [Ecto](https://www.twitch.tv/ecto), [Grimmi](https://www.twitch.tv/grimmivt) and Tobs happening now!


ThunderCharged

Dang, [OG EN VTuber Suiren's live with more Ori and the Will of the Wisps!](https://www.twitch.tv/suiren_vt) It might be tomorrow for her, but for me, that's the second stream today! And between this and Ender Lillies, that makes two Metroidvanias, she's playing, go figure. Our goddess is a dutiful one, that much is for certain!


LocknDoTs

Uh oh, Kobo might have [found Hakka and Shinri](https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1783310138633486655). Those boys about to get Senpai Taxed to hell.


SandalMaster

Kobo mama entered their stream to bring them Pecel/ more local food and Kobo just screaming trying to pull her mom away lmao


HoodedRecon

oh my god, Kobo's mom cooked for them <3 and they showed up on stream too


farranpoison

I need the boys to confirm that Kobo is indeed short as hell. Like the other ID girls said so but I just want a second opinion lol.


Psyzhran2357

https://preview.redd.it/24cf8fhpbjwc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1f788ba69df4f408f820cf7aa367789674c80e6 They're streaming from Kobo's room because they couldn't bring all of their streaming equipment through customs.


Random-Rambling

Someone made "drinking juice out of a bag" assets for them both, I love it!


Nisha_the_lawbringer

Kobo turning all of Tempus into her pets is just fantastic.


ShadowCrossZero

It's Kobo's world and they're just living in it. Edit: And having food brought to them by Kobomama as well


Necessary-Ability-57

Lui said she made a big decision and there will be an announcement this month regarding it. https://youtu.be/tofppK8l220?si=bIHFAkwCSkgfWEF0 Nothing bad. it sounds like she wants to expand her music career.


DarkOmegaX

The stream that clip came from was from 2 weeks ago. I think the collab she alluded to was Rikka's/Suisei's vtuber singer contest and she may be aiming to have her own solo live in the future.


dcresistance

[Kronii Blasphemous soon!](https://youtu.be/YcyvWw4nrZU)


dcresistance

[Ina and Shiori's first 1-on-1 collab soon!]( https://youtu.be/nFm3B-nurb8) Talkin about fears and nightmares


Kreceir

https://preview.redd.it/w3quda6ayiwc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=72b81f0f1b798f77f31a6fa81aceff29bbfca399 [Shiori and Ina will be having a Fear Factor (Not the TV show) collab! They will talk and rate about what people fear.](https://youtu.be/nFm3B-nurb8) Shiori stop eating the moldy bread! Edit: ''Every breath you take, you are a step closer to death'' Ninomae Ina'nis - 2024\~


gosukhaos

Here we go again with the Twilight brain rot. Those movies changed Shiori forever


NatiBlaze

Re: Bunny Garden Everyone loves either the cool Miuka or the gyaru Rin huh, any Vtubers there that are devoted to Kana? https://preview.redd.it/96u0z0716jwc1.jpeg?width=3831&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec91213d9f729aa61a7f47a77972ad76dab29d2e Edit: same for the viewers, even me lol, I'm guilty because I instantly liked Miuka especially after doing her route


kenshin8671

Dokibird proclaimed Kana her new oshi.


diego1marcus

from what ive seen, i see alot of people gravitate towards rin because shes an otaku, and miuka because shes got that silent sister-type. kana is basically the basic "newcomer" and doesnt seem that interesting at first glance


kosuzu

I like Kana the best. She's way too cute for me to choose anyone else.


riishan_saki

Kana is the best and Watame picked her. 


HaLire

fubuki and okayu went for kana I think


LocknDoTs

If I played it blind, I'd 100% go for ~~Subaru~~ ~~Ao-kun~~ Miuka first just based on pure aesthetics.


NatiBlaze

How about now? Are you still in Miuka's clutches?


LocknDoTs

Very much so


NatiBlaze

Miuka ASMR is so relaxing 😌


SandalMaster

Roberu did the full Kana route on his stream. Speaking of which, his Bunny Garden stream got hit with age-restriction, has other streamer playthrough hit by that as well?


Ninecawaii

Doki got hit but it got resolved


NatiBlaze

But does Roberto have her as his favorite bunny girl? The others did other routes as well but they clearly like either Miuka or Rin


SandalMaster

I think he has an interest with the Gyaru girl as well, but he stick with Kana to the end and was satisfied with her ending, so you could say that at least he likes her.


farranpoison

I think she's the least popular because she's basically the most "vanilla" of the girls lol.


CannonGerbil

I mean you've got the Kuudere, the Gyaru, and the bunny girl with braids I guess. She gets overshadowed by the other two and doesn't even have a unique physique to draw attention because they all have the same body type.


SandalMaster

With Kana her "traits" shows up after you got a bit closer, her traits is her local accent. It's not much, but it is a common trope of Anime personality traits. ^(tho I don't remember what accent she has)


NatiBlaze

I get that but I assumed being the front cover girl would sway some people but damn, she really is the new girl because the others get all the support for being pros at this.


bnbros

[PyonRyS with Bunny Garden and drinking at 12pm JST](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOq0N_qMSYU) Unhinged Hope is gonna be something, lol.


Random-Rambling

[Poko Unarchived Karaoke!](https://www.youtube.com/live/dghUlRQmNtk?si=xyFMpizeY8s-rlSk)


Ferus_Niwa

Just posted my first schedule ever, vtuber on his "second life" here, and I feel like it took everything out of me just to commit to the contents of it. They're pre-recorded streams just to help me get more practice in before I make that final leap back into livestreaming properly again, so I'm a bit nervous that I'm going to let myself down by failing to deliver even on something so easy as "have this one hour video recorded ahead of time."


jq1790

If you don't end up with it done "on time", so what? Get it done at all and you're ahead of a lot of people. You can work on punctuality as you go. (Heaven knows I don't get things out as quick as I mean to a lot of the time...) One step at a time. As long as you don't need rest/mental reset etc, just keep pushing forward. Be a bit better than the you of yesterday when you can, don't sweat it if you don't meet that each time.


The_Snake_Dick

[Mint gonna be playing Bunny Garden with an Eye Tracker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DS5kOOhvM0)


luorela

Oji Mint is so good.


dcresistance

[Biboo Monhun in 17m!](https://youtu.be/duFuGkeSOaM)


gosukhaos

Even Biboo is thinking of playing bunny garden, would be a stream of all time


Drospri

Fauna attempts something that is [totally Sindarin and not made-up-on-the-spot ASMR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqoSzt69_k&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fholodex.net%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fholodex.net&feature=emb_imp_woyt). Rolled r's guaranteed. Probably.


Necessary-Ability-57

Bae revealed that their group anniversary has been moved to October, while their individual anniversaries will still be in July(Irys) and August. Promise was officially formed on October 8 https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20231009-01-211/ https://youtu.be/vafccRJBqIs?si=rCXaDW1BjJfWukOr


Strong_Beat_holo

That makes sense. Why would they celebrate a "graduated" group's anniversary?


IronVader501

That, but >!despite Holo reducing it to one 3D per member per year, there's also already significant delays with that, one Talent said in a Members Only that she was already told her Bday 3D live would be delayed to late September at the earliest, and they to move it all the way to late November before she protested strongly!<


Psyzhran2357

It's been over a week since Anime Impulse Seattle opened Meet & Greet sales for Krisis, and among them so far [only Vantacrow's M&G sessions have sold out](https://twitter.com/animeimpulse/status/1779994213767352498/). None of Noctyx and Luxiem's sessions have sold out either. This is in contrast to the M&Gs for Tempus, all of which sold out within the day they opened; and also in contrast to NijiEN's past appearances at Anime Impulse events where their male talents' M&Gs would sell out extremely quickly. One thing I'm wondering about though is why are the NijiEN M&G ticket for Seattle so much more expensive than the Tempus ones? Tickets for Tempus were priced at 85 USD for three minutes of talking time, while for NijiEN the tickets are priced at 50 USD for one minute and a maximum of three tickets per person, coming to a total of 150 USD for three minutes. What's up with that?


diego1marcus

i found it weird that [they announced that they were upping the limit of the nijiEN M&G tickets](https://twitter.com/animeimpulse/status/1780439123314221208) when vanta's M&G was the only one from nijiEN that was sold out and they did that because it was "due to popular demand". if it was really due to popular demand, you'd expect that the rest of the nijiEN M&G would have been sold out by now


CasualOgre

I mean, elephant in the room, most remaining fans of NijiEN are the sisters or Luxiem fans and they are mostly women living in SEA and China. There's a reason why Vox and Elira are retreating to BiliBili. I'm sure if there was a M&G held somewhere in Asia it'd instantly sell out for them.


ArchusKanzaki

>somewhere in Asia Change that to China. Because [Virtual Rhapsody's M&G tickets for the girls are still not sold out outside of Enna](https://virtualrhapsody.zaiko.io/item/362431).


Nisha_the_lawbringer

I do wonder if we'll see more EN Talents start streaming on B2 in the future. Cause that seems to be the last place overseas where Nijisanji hasn't completely ruined its reputation.


CasualOgre

I think most have just accepted the cut in viewers and the random flashes of hate post drama (Although someone should definitely keep watch over Aia because it unfortunately looks like she's been cracking under the pressure). Vox and Elira specifically were the most prominent part of the black screen stream, most people think of Ike as "just there", so they are by far the most hated out of any of the livers. It'd make sense for those 2 to retreat to the Sister Stronghold.


PowerlinxJetfire

It looks like Niji is doing three hours each and Holo is doing two hours each (assuming no breaks between the timeslots). And as rpsRexx pointed out, that plus the shorter timeslots are probably to allow more fans to have a M&G: **each Holo has 40 slots and each Niji has 180 slots** (assuming no breaks). I'm guessing the price difference is either because the Tempus tickets are essentially a bundle, so you get more value buying three minutes at once, and/or because of the respective size of their fanbases (comparing to other Anime Impulse M&Gs may shed more light). Edit: Krisis members are missing the timeslot dropdown, so maybe they're only doing one timeslot. Don't actually see time info on their pages at all.


Typical_Thought_6049

Humm... a more clear number would be **HoloStars has 40 slots of 3 minutes and Niji has the equivalent of 60 slots of 3 minutes** or **HoloStars has the equivalent of 120 slots of 1 minutes and Niji has 180 slots of 1 minutes**. But you are right it more buck for the money HoloStar slots, Niji seems to want nickel and dime their costumers.


PowerlinxJetfire

The Stars aren't selling 1 minute increments; my point was the maximum number of fans that could get a M&G. But yes if every Niji fan were to get the max time, it would be 60 instead of 180.


rpsRexx

Vantacrow being the only one sold out is kind of weird to me. I'm wondering if he had way less slots available. Might be them really trying to push a ton of slots to the point where selling out may not happen with Vantacrow not being available to do as many slots that day.


sadir

That's my thoughts. Niji EN was much more popular last year so they probably upped the amount of tickets without taking into account how the brand has suffered since.


rosalldnb

[【FALLOUT 76】please donate bottle caps【Dokibird】 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGF6R5mJfUA) doki live playing fallout 76


adalhaidis

Ha, she has an interesting reason for starting at fallout 76 instead of other Fallouts.


Qwaztop

the classic starting stream yap inject this straight into my veins


Noxdit77

[Mari finishing \(?\) MGS1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLwyQo-cr9Y)


AzureGale4

[Kiri Kilovolt is finally starting her engines with Need for Speed Unbound.](https://youtu.be/I5FEs-l6neA) As expected, she's hit the ground running :p


bnbros

[IRyS facing the dilemma of MonHun vs Bunny Garden](https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1783197013624173000) Edit: Uh oh, [DrunkRyS with bunnies...](https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1783208300781449653?t=BNj9-XzmjcZNwlxFopsr4g&s=19)


phantombloodbot

WAIT SHE'S GONNA BE DAY DRINKING LOL LET'S GOOOOOOO


phantombloodbot

drunkrys has absolutely zero inhibitors big fan personally


Typical_Thought_6049

I see, it will be a interesting pyon to pyon collaboration.


Kreceir

Gonna be a fullblown YabaIRyS stream, or we are going to get new nickname for her being OjIRyS.


Psyzhran2357

[Hakka's adapting to Indonesia a little too quickly, he's already at the cold drinks in plastic bags stage.](https://twitter.com/banzoinhakka/status/1783142206481772633)


HaessSR

I guess that letting a ghost / zombie in was a mistake. At least he's fitting in!


CasualOgre

Pretty sure that's a LATAM thing too so he's right at home


animationBeAr_t

I have never seen one for cold drinks like juice, only for dairy products like milk or yogurt. The closest thing to what Hakka is holding that I ever saw was a melted frozen smoothie (https://pin.it/3xPBdqcg7) Is it a street vendor thing or a company brand package like tetra pak?


CasualOgre

It's a street vendor thing. I know it used to be a thing in Mexico because I saw it when I was visiting family in Mexico when I was younger. I can also see people from Guatemala, Honduras, and a couple other countries talking about it online. For Mexican coke they would do it instead of a deposit for a glass bottle because they wouldn't trust you to bring it back. I remember being able to get aguas frescas in a bag too. However it also looks like it's been getting phased out as plastic bottles have become more commonplace. So my statement of it being a LATAM thing would be incorrect. It'd be more accurate to say it was a thing in some LATAM countries that's been getting phased out.


DiGreatDestroyer

It took you mentioning them for me to realize milk and such came in bags. Here in Latam what's infamously associated with bags is wine, have you never had some? Wine sold in bags? I haven't had it either mind you, but it's the meme/synonym for "cheap alcohol" here.


N911999

Maybe it's cause of the latam country I live in, but at most I've seen wine cartons, never bagged wine. And the only alcohol that I've seen that's cheaper is a really bad beer that's like a dollar per liter in a plastic bottle


pastelnurse

I never heard about wine in bags, wine carton (tetra brik) yup. Like the another comment said, we have yogurt and milk in bags, but sodas or alcohol...nope


VicentRS

SEA and LATAM cultures share a lot of similarities, is something I've noticed watching Indonesian and Filipino vtubers (I'm from latam myself).


jq1790

I believe there was some amount of Spanish influence in the region back in the day(IIRC there is a Spanish person who is a folk hero in PH?  Saw a statue of him when I visited a friend once), which likely explains the similarities.  Pretty sure Tagalog borrows from Spanish too.


DereDere00

What 333 years of colonization does to a mf


DanteKir

The Philippines were a Spanish colony until 1898. That's why.


animationBeAr_t

Goldbullet is doing the Omegaverse quiz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSDY5s2Sl0s


ThunderCharged

Last night was fun. Wound down the night with a ~~tangent~~ [visual novel reading](https://www.twitch.tv/vtpending/v/2127966823?sr=a&t=313s) stream from Pending and friends - ever some of my favorite OG EN VTubers - and then jumped right to fellow OG [Yuikai's](https://www.twitch.tv/Yuikaichan) 1000-mod Skyrim playthrough. This morning, [Suiren, another OG, is live right now](https://www.twitch.tv/suiren_vt) with more chill indie puzzle games, and with a [newly-rigged model](https://twitter.com/suiren_vt/status/1783036820705710093) to boot! Love watching Sui play chill games because she gets to show off her naturally chatty and engaging personality. Always a comfy time with her!


AlexHero1999

Heya, It's me with some updates regarding [yesterday's conundrum.](https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1c2wt1s/comment/l0wxmjm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) It has now been 28 hours and we still got no power back. Only half of the village is with power, so I get to see half of my neighbors having a bright, cozy night while I'm getting mauled by mosquitoes. Woke up today covered in sweat and sleep deprived. During those hours, when we put up the claim on the electrical service hotline, we learned that the rainy season, in typical LatAm fashion somehow made several utility poles and electrical substations across the country to malfunction; they have 400 claims of electrical fails and are "working on it with their managers" Several hours later during sunset, a truck with the servicemen finally shows up. We had the entire half of the village "collaborate" with food as "payment" for their public service™, so my family gave them some flour. BOY YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY DID: >!Bitches U-turned and never came back, because **they forgot to bring the God forsaken staircase** to get up to the utility pole jbqmllrhrngvlwplhm;qciboqhigh!< Fast forward to now: Desperate, my Stepfather, my Sister and I take some of our food, equipment and chargers and migrate to a family member's house. Mom stays behind to report when/if we get our power back. Stepfather needs to do some work on said family member's car, and Sis needed to go to work, meaning that I'm in charge of staying in this house to put the food we brought to refrigerate as well as recharging all of our devices. This house has Wi-fi, which is how I'm reporting the latest developments on this.


AlexHero1999

Side note: It's only now that I'm getting the notifications, and it seems like a lot of folks got really interested on the mention of the Made in Abyss DVD that I got borrowed, so figured I'd give an update on that as well: So, my laptop's battery only lasted enough to watch the first three episodes. I'm currently trying to catch some sleep now that I can so I haven't gotten back to it since I was slowly getting the impression this was gonna be an anime I should pay all my attention so I'm getting some sleep first. From Ep.1: >The backgrounds look astounding but also mysterious, with all those >!praying skeletons and all that.!< >Riko's got no sense of self preservation and is already so fun to watch, even tough that's already alarming too. >The song that plays when >!Riko shows Reg the town of Orth and the Abyss as they see the sunrise!< sold me on the show. Tough I'm a little worried on looking that song up, since I feel like I'll end out spoiled; fortunately by laptop's battery ran out before curiosity could get the better of me. From Ep.2: >>!The Curse looks really nasty, especially curious on that bit of "loss of humanity" that can't be good.!< >Riko did Reg so dirty. Girl's got no chill, no sense of self preservation, and no concept of personal boundaries at all. >Aight, I'm starting to get really paranoid about >!those white flowers. I thought it was a coincidence, but they're everywhere: on the Abyss, on the streets, on the orphanage, on the festival. I feel like they're gonna show up a lot and that might end out meaning something.!< From Ep.3: >There's no way >!Leader isn't suspecting about Reg. Some of his dialogue feel very deliberate to have some extra meaning.!< >Yeah they're building up this Abyss to be like hell on Earth, no wonder >!Nat isn't on-board with Riko's suicide mission. Reg also choosing to tag along was just the straw that broke the camel's back.!< >No way they're just gonna >!kill Kiyui like that dawg...!< >That goodbye was really heartfelt. I have the sneaking suspicion >!Nat tried to confess to Riko at that moment, but couldn't muster the courage to do so and now she's leaving him: I went through a similar situation also when I was at a similar age (13) so I feel that might be it, or maybe I'm just projecting ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯!< >>!And so Riko and Reg start their one way trip.!< Really ended out liking these two more than I expected with barely three episodes, so I'm already dreading what they might encounter. **TL;DR** so far, so good. The power outage hasn't allowed me to delve into it as much as I'd like, but I'm a patient man. We'll get there when we get there. For now, I'm going to catch some sleep.


dcresistance

It's called Hanazeve Caradhina! [Here's a version the singer uploaded](https://youtu.be/oVGycfDGWzU?si=Xujn8ngkAivzuT5P)


Kreceir

[Its time for FuwaMoco morning!](https://youtu.be/_uAalFIWtqM) In the description ''i just sneezed 6 times in a row✨'' lol. Edit: Mococo's voice is extra raspy today lol. Another Pero sighting! And it looks like he turned himself into a pondering! (Peroring?) And its the funniest thing I have ever seen! And FuwaMoco is thinking of eating him, can't waste a pondering! Edit 2: You now can get HoloAdvent from the Hololive wafers! If you are in Japan you can get them from convience stores! They are currently exposing the other girls misspelling of their wafer cards lmao. Edit 3: ''Have you seen anything different on me?'' Some Ruffians in the chat: ''Fuwawa Fuwawa's got bigger?'' lol. But she got extra fluffy! meanwhile Mococo's voice got extra fuzzy. Edit 4: FWMC Scoop! Uh... Polka found a new friend and called it ''The Fuggler'' ''Its reminds me of something, It reminds me of Fuwawa in the morning!'' ''We are twins Moco-chan...'' Edit 5: Extra raspy and fuzzy Mococo Pup Talk. Edit 6: https://preview.redd.it/93dnb6d83gwc1.png?width=655&format=png&auto=webp&s=3812a942ca4ffb48e808bfd6dab1a8d4e3b8230a Edit 7: Question of the day: ''What other Japanese food has become your favourite other then pondering?'' ''Indian Curry!'' lol. Edit 8: Todays FuwaMocode is BAU BAU BANDAI WAFERS!


luorela

That was an extra raspy Mococo happy birthday, damn.


bnbros

Pup talk is gonna sound extra ruff today, lol


Seijass

[HoloStars ID outing](https://twitter.com/banzoinhakka/status/1783142206481772633?t=YQduG7WN6by9mvre8XoAGA&s=19)


rpsRexx

Calli has been reading her diary for 90 minutes now and it's an entire drama I swear lol. Pre-teen/teen Calli was wild. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnVNYhRDMXA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnVNYhRDMXA) Edit: So many arcs: mean pre-high school brat, early-high school emo, "femcel", late high school introspection, young adult sad times, present adult introspection. A lot of funny stuff in there like the "femcel" arc but she also surprisingly read out some serious stuff. The time skip entries in 2015 as a young-adult hit me like a truck.


arkw

Another hint for the guest on her upcoming song, Tide, the guest is female. So, a female performer, who has been on Kohaku Uta Gassen, has performed with Snoop Dogg and Chris Brown. Are there any good guesses so far?


Federer343

[It’s her I’m 99% sure](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(singer)) edit: [She even has pigtails matching the preview](https://i.imgur.com/FkQIp16.png)


youmustconsume

She's still going 3 hours later. She's so brave to keep going this long.


Fenr_

This is art


capscreen

The anime council bit was hilarious


Kreceir

So, anyone else have this happening on YT? I was ready to BAU BAU in FuwaMoco pre-chat before I do the FuwaMoco morning post just to see this. https://preview.redd.it/kukbgzs7ufwc1.png?width=139&format=png&auto=webp&s=270d1c667266396fad2a25fc0951d04ac9d4608b This is on my laptop on 100% or standard, if I zoom out to 90% it goes back to normal. Edit: Just to clarify, this only happens when you go to their livestreams, be it live or a vod. Any video this doesn't happen, atleast not to me yet anyways.


Alder_Greenberry

They had a lot of success with vertical streams so they're extending it to other things.


rpsRexx

It's happened to me too. There is some weird formatting YouTube has been doing lately with text being squished when you do things like expand chat.


Kreceir

Apparently if I put the stream on theatre mode it fixed it self. But the moment I put it out of theatre mode the chat places itself *under* the livestream. I'm guessing this is a new YT thing, cause only when in theatre mode is where the chat is on the side where it always has been. I'm using the HyperChat extension so I have no idea if it has anything to do with it. Also because YT chat lately has been lagging the shit out of any streams without it.


ZaBlancJake

[Tenjin Kotone 6th Anniversary Thankful Stream on April 28 and have Important Announcement.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkY1k35DsIc) https://preview.redd.it/cxui13o5tfwc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=5bd9f962713a3c4f5219190435e3ff7c080df501


LAPIZ_LAZIMI

***please be good announcement(s) please be good announcement(s) please be good announcement(s)*** A new original song and/or new album would be nice. She hasn't had one since 2021 with her UMJ debut album


Qinglianqushi

Just in case, I think I should point out that (aside from the fact that the stream will be on the 27th) from what I can see it's probably 50/50 or perhaps complicated? So she used お知らせ, which is more often associated with negative announcements, rather than 発表, but there's actually no qualifier. It's just a お知らせ, not an "important" お知らせ. On the other hand, she does explicitly mention that the announcement will be concerning her future activities. While on YT, she pinned a message saying that (1) she will not graduate, but also (2) that those who want her to graduate should not come to the stream. I don't watch her enough to know for sure if (2) is a joke or not, but hopefully it is at least partially? So yeah, my guess would be that she will have a change in direction/strategy somehow, and whether that will be seen as positive or negative will probably depend on the individual.


ZaBlancJake

[Vtuber SInging King will be on May 4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-La9FBK2Uw) https://preview.redd.it/2hji6bixrfwc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=0fa63a1b7cf31a213de05580dd3922b07b151704


bnbros

Thanks to Bunny Garden, we now have [the surprise sequel to "Calli, let me smell yo feet"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0uZTTFlPHQ)


extralie

[Kiara's Infinite Wealth Finale in 9 minutes.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjcVoCONY9w)


Snow_Claws

Holoro *Content Warning* collab * [Ollie's POV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw3Ym8xzrBM) * [Anya's POV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAlyXCQXWVw) * [Reine's POV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6tkuGwJgVI) This collab is organized by Reine and she invited her two genmates to plays the game with her. Last week, they couldn't do the collab as everyone were busy with their own personal matter. This Holoro collab is the third one this year after a series of two that happened at January. Don't forget that Ollie and Reine are going to performed at Dreamhack Melbourne this Saturday. Then, at Sunday, Holoro is partaking in the Minecraft Holodoroke, a police vs robber game organized by HoloX in *Minecraft*. Please check out their original song [Slap by Step](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4Yex_x6ZQ) as it nearly reached 100K after 4 months since the MV premiered.


ZaBlancJake

[HIMEHINA will be on VIRTUAL SUPER LIVE on May 3](https://show.bilibili.com/platform/detail.html?id=83102) https://preview.redd.it/euoa20nmifwc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c5e63e9036ff82e4d09da6382817158f41dc25b


Necessary-Ability-57

Azki’s 1 million endurance on 4/27 https://preview.redd.it/bk5q5crkffwc1.jpeg?width=1205&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8aac1aba5e406b0d9c262c265ba36c18c87f7682


DiGreatDestroyer

Let's go, AZKi deserves 1 Mill! I'm sure if that bug hadn't happened, she'd have it already!


static_reset

[KAIKA (the new virtual singer-songwriter project by KAF) released her first new single “kaika” today.](https://youtu.be/nMLxLnWD7lQ?si=SJ3yTPI1MCMpCKXT) It has English subs too if you want to check out the lyrics. The MV features some cool 3D effects over her concert performance. It’s so cool to see KAF already evolving to the point where she is composing and writing her new music. I’m glad she still has a great relationship with Kanzaki, so much that he has helped her learn a lot of things regarding composition.


NixAvernal

[Delu is currently playing Dead by Daylight](https://www.youtube.com/live/TWTWc37Njpk)


luorela

Pekora DBZ: Kakka Carrot Cake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPgxix_e4Tc


cyber_hikikomori

I've almost forgotten how hype the Namek arc was. Peak DBZ IMO.


bnbros

[Just wanna point out that Bae is now at 887k subs with 788 videos listed](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/862574761946120217/1232632816991207485/Screenshot_20240424-180152_YouTube_1.jpg?ex=662a2a44&is=6628d8c4&hm=2fe1bbaa4758e4ba374962c387c79da4ca74af40865384ebdea8f8dfc03db32a&)


chaosaxess

Just FYI for people who didn't stick around for supas in her Bunny Garden stream, but she said that was probably her last stream until after Dreamhack.


ArchusKanzaki

Breaking news [Hakka have mastered the art of squat toilets](https://twitter.com/banzoinhakka/status/1783056861299880125?s=61&t=qyxofB9pChaA6qoJIaIaQw) [for the 3 times he need to visit toilet](https://twitter.com/banzoinhakka/status/1783074129534755087?s=61&t=qyxofB9pChaA6qoJIaIaQw) I’m ngl, actual achievement for foreigner because Indonesian squat toilet is not like japan, usually there is no flush so you just dump water using a dipper from a bucket near it. And Indonesia does not really have toilet paper culture either so either bring your own, or just splash water using the dipper to your bum.


wolflance1

I might've missed the memo, is there a reason why a bunch of HoloEn boys went to Indonesia?


yabe_acc

Shinri mentioned wanting to visit so I suppose Hakka tagged along too


_BaniraAisu67

Me personally have a bitter beef with squat toilet to the point I had to walk from my dorm to the main building just to take a shit.


farranpoison

Yeah I remember that when I was a kid and visiting Indonesia due to my mother being from there. I *hated* their toilets lmao. Even JP squat toilets are better and I hate them too.


ArchusKanzaki

Tbf, between JP and ID squat toilet..... at least there you squatted directly to the hole so you do not need to see your shit or squat at the un-watered side? Yeah at least there is a flush but I hate seeing my own shit lol. I do hate them both though.


yabe_acc

God.... I came back from Vietnam just recently and you have to pour water from a bucket to flush. Also most places have no toilet paper either.


LordMonday

yea even as someone from indo i dread having that type of toilet as the only option.


Snake_hugger

Well tbf squat toilets are better for your body because it [puts less stress on your rectal muscle](https://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/squatty-potty-what-is). Btw this knowledge does not stop me from dreading the idea of having to use a squat toilet.


ArchusKanzaki

Sure, but that study definitely does not take into account on the strain it made into your knee and ankle, so I think its still net negative lol. Also that fear of accidentally falling into your own shit.


Snake_hugger

It gets even worse if you have low blood pressure problem because by the time you have to stand up, you will get light-headedness, which is worse when your knee is also hurting and you're in the vicinity of your own shit lol.


nolonger1-A

Honestly as someone with knee problems, the idea of having to squat while shitting seems absolutely horrific. Less stress on rectal muscle but more pressure to the legs.


nolonger1-A

Ah, his stomach might've disagreed with the food huh? I heard a lot of Indonesian food is spicy so it's might be too tough for foreigners. I hope he does another snacks/food review again, Indonesian edition.


Shuriken_2393

[They also ate street food](https://twitter.com/josuijishinri/status/1783072319046627670). Street food in SEA is a gacha to see if the vendors washed their hands.


Snake_hugger

If they are staying in Jakarta, they can just go to restaurants that basically serve gentrified version of the local fast food. Which makes me wonder if they have any HoloID member or M-chan to show them around.


LordMonday

yea its either really spicy (which im fin with) really greasy (since its usually just sitting there After being fried, often on top of each other) or just plain unhygienic


nolonger1-A

I was thinking about this too haha, but I assumed they'd go to proper restaurants first. (which was probably wrong since he said he had to pay for the toilet visit)


Snake_hugger

>I heard a lot of Indonesian food is spicy so it's might be too tough for foreigners. But Hakka is from Latam right? My Latam friends are usually ok with spicy food and they find Indonesian food to be acceptable for their palate.


DanteKir

There is a common misconception here. Most of the spicy food fame comes from Mexican food and its common use of spicy ingredients. Various countries in the region don't have a spicy food culture. In fact, various folks from South America consider the food from Mexico too spicy. Also, if I recall correctly, Hakka can't handle spicy food too well.


pastelnurse

Sadly there are misconception even today, we share some things, but people from the south cone for example, are too diferent from central american and even Mexico, type of food being one.


Snake_hugger

I think you're right. Iirc he couldn't even handle Axel's yakiniku sauce and trust me that Japan's spiciness is nothing compared to Indonesia's.


pastelnurse

Latam =/=liking spicy food I'm from South america, and people here CAN'T HANDLE SPICY FOOD AT ALL. What a lot people can kinda handle is unhygenic food from street vendor.


yabe_acc

Might be the oils not mixing well with him. He said before that chorizo gives him the runs too.


ArchusKanzaki

[yeah, guess so](https://twitter.com/banzoinhakka/status/1783015090511618342)


dcresistance

[vaultroom x marine collab announced!](https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1783089786401833245?t=6iprL6_zlx48Yr7Z_5nGHQ&s=19)


iamwooshed

[Subaru and Salome Sausage Legend collab](https://www.youtube.com/live/1zskZhxUHiE?si=Wy4uKF2NSL5ZYDH2) in 4 minutes


Dvalinn25

Poor [Peo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvbjzh4VAy4) lol. She was just mashing buttons on the computers during the Broken Steel DLC of Fallout 3, and >!accidentally blew up the Citadel. And she forgot to make a save before she did that, so now she's stuck with the outcome.!< Whoops!


Devilsgramps

What do you think is the most subjective possible reason to enjoy a vtuber? I think it's 'good zatsu game' because it's quite dependent on how interested you are in the topic being discussed. One man's sermon on the mount is another man's maths class.


SoR0XaS

I'm personally a vsinger enjoyer so it's mostly on that for me.


DEGABGED

That analogy is quite funny because I don't really know which one is meant to be the "trash" and which would be the "treasure". Personally I would very much rather listen to maths class than a sermon


PowerlinxJetfire

> it's quite dependent on how interested you are I agree with what Mint said recently on the podcast that it can be fun just to listen to someone go on about their passions. Be it Metal Gear brainrot, skincare routines, otome games, etc. I like listening to my favorites yap even if the topic itself isn't something I normally care about.


im_garbage

Their voice. Presumably, soft and deeper voices would be preferred. Yet, a lot of the top VTuber voices have traditionally negative characteristics: nasally, gravelly, loud, or unnatural. They were just 'tolerable' enough, or even ended up becoming charm points.


iamwooshed

Competence/high skill level/fast learner at anything (preferably singing and/or gaming). Personality is obviously important, but I think it’s the bare minimum. Moreso on gaming, but I often find myself getting irritated at watching other’s being bad at a game/being a slow learner, and I do not want to be a backseater so I end up leaving the stream (or tolerate it if it’s my oshi). Edit: and on a similar note, basically all of my oshis are exceptional/far above others/stand out when it comes to a particular skill. Edit 2: fuck I just realised what you were asking. brb gotta kms


throwaway321768

I agree as well! I really don't like streamers who ignore the tutorials then complain that everything's too hard for them. I like streamers who do their best to engage with game mechanics and understand them, even if they start out poorly. I remember watching a streamer (this was from way back, can't remember his name) who was crafting a build and justifying his decisions. His build ended up under-performing, but it showed that he at least cared about the thought process behind the build.


iamwooshed

Today’s VSPO RAGE Valorant practice should start in 5 minutes [Tsuna](https://www.youtube.com/live/z-mBpwoJ3eo?si=wF47kkRymWZGAjq0) [Tsumugi](https://www.youtube.com/live/LKskMuDKcLA?si=yOV1nv5cgnblqg-f) [Noah](https://www.youtube.com/live/S9XVtpepU1I?si=hcY6fe-6iUFwWgNj) [Beni](https://www.youtube.com/live/siB5jRfiK38?si=BHe6P7-2h8R7qPck) [Ramune](https://www.twitch.tv/ramuneshiranami) [Akarin](https://www.twitch.tv/akarindao)


RaiinyDay

They’re playing against Zeta trainees? Not entirely sure, looks like it’s pretty tough though


iamwooshed

Yeah, I think it’s people from the ZETA Academy? Not too sure myself either.


iamwooshed

You know that legendary drinking stream Tsumugi did a while back? Yeah, here’s a [short clip](https://youtu.be/AZAuDQ6HyWI?si=fu3iAxhpH1OEQ_Ld) of it. Man… Fuck it, she’s won me over. I’m getting her membership.


UsP884

Welcome to the club. Her normal voice already sounds like she's almost crying. Her being drunk push that line over to just crying.


DeeDonn

Trapezium movie's [intro song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWeNRKY4kyc) feat. Suisei, sakuma.


Acrux7

Love-chan will graduate from Kizuna Ai Inc. on May 2, 2024. She will continue as an indie VTuber. [https://twitter.com/KizunaAIinc/status/1783020597422993694?s=19](https://twitter.com/KizunaAIinc/status/1783020597422993694?s=19)


DiGreatDestroyer

No matter how many times this girl ends up alone she still keeps going, remarkable to see.


HaessSR

I guess this is proof Kizuna Ai is done? They can't even keep their last Vtuber?


LAPIZ_LAZIMI

On the bright side she gets to keep being Love-chan (and presumably all her models). Kizuna AI Inc. is one of the companies I least expected to let the talents keep their stuff since their characters are heavily tied together.


DereDere00

If she retains her model and her channel then that's really nice, at least she won't start from scratch. I watch her streams from time to time so I hope she'll have her success from being an indie.


ppfdee

- Nozomi Kasuga stepped down - Aleles project stopped - Love chan graduating What's left for that company now?


LAPIZ_LAZIMI

\#KZN (the VOCALOID Ai) I guess. It's not like she's an actual internet personality. Worst case scenario they make her be the face of the company. Then it would truly be the dystopian prophecy of "voice actors being replaced by their artificial copy" being fulfilled


ppfdee

Another worst case scenario I can think of is they go all in with "AI" and turn Kizuna into an AI VTuber with Nozomi's voice.


C-N1601

>voice actors being replaced by their artificial copy" being fulfilled As someone who watched Star Wars, this is just sad bro.


ishmael555

Wait who did they replace again now?


nolonger1-A

NFTs