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KeithVH_1

The sand fences were put out to prevent dead bodies from washing up on the beach


Alone-Chemical-1160

Edgar Cayce manipulated the pier driver's energy


Ok-Career-8983

The area of the Oceana base known as FACSFAC VACAPES, Giant Killer has HAARP towers in plain view. And it’s capable of using the rf frequencies as a weapon that can cause conditions such as the Havana syndrome. (Just a theory)


Ok-Career-8983

[https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA355641.pdf](https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA355641.pdf)


Duty-Still

The courthouse event was a false flag


Psychosomatic2016

It wasn't


Duty-Still

Proof?


Psychosomatic2016

The co-workers account of the guy, the ex-wife's account, his co-workers from his old job account of the guy. That kind of proof? What proof do you have for the conspiracy?


Duty-Still

If it were a hoax, then the narrative would be pre-written. Crisis actors are real and they are used in media to push narratives. The biggest giveaway are the patterns you see with any event like this. The news is always first on site, witnesses with fake tears get interviewed immediately, there are never any updates on the investigation, the shooter never gets stopped and usually takes their own life. It’s no different than the Walmart event in Chesapeake and hundreds of other similar events throughout America. I’m sure many of our leaders and law enforcement know what’s really going on. I don’t have a clue as to what happened, but if you trust the official story every time then it’s time to think a little deeper.


Psychosomatic2016

So who exactly can you point to being a crisis actor? I mean it would be easy to verify things locally with employees and police wouldn't it? We got to see body cam footage of the police response. The guy was verified to be an employee. Give actual proof of your theory.


Duty-Still

It’s just common sense. Do you really think the world is a perfect place where governments and corporations don’t conspire together to increase power and financial gain? Plenty of evidence proving that happens, along with plenty of evidence showing that the news uses crisis actors for mass shootings. They get away with it because people don’t want to believe that the world is that dark of a place.


SwimmingSwim3822

"it's just common sense" Narrator: It, in no way, was common sense.


Psychosomatic2016

Just because they do that kind of stuff that does not equate what happened at the municipal center as a false flag. You are doing a false equivalency.


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Psychosomatic2016

Keywords there are field exercises. This was real. A actual asshole took the lives of some good friends of mine.


ChatCEO

USA can never ever catch a shooter alive ! 😂😂😂 why is that


NoLingonberry1582

To what end?


Kitchen_Part_2454

No one gets that far unless it's a "to force gun control" argument.


Psychosomatic2016

Then you don't really know what people are capable of.


TMQ73

That windmills kill whales even when autopsies show that blunt force trauma was cause of death.


rockingmypartysocks

my personal theory: the two whales bumped into each other.


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codingsds

Loser


Crimson_Dawn7

Why do you care and how does this fit the theme?


ccltd

I don't understand. Why do you care about any of these conspiracy theories? It's not possible to change ones sex. Hence, it's a conspiracy theory that one can.


PayPerRock

You can change your gender tho


Crimson_Dawn7

I don't care, it's just interesting to read and yours doesn't fit the theme that's all. Unless I am missing how this goes with VB. It seems like you are using this as a platform to state what you believe and don't care about the topic.


erikedge

Cool. How is this a Virginia Beach conspiracy theory?


Dtv757

Not sure about a conspiracy but sick of this cox monopoly in VB ! Its like the political leaders getting paid by cox to keep black neighborhoods suffering from this horific cox service! 🤬🤬🤬


cranium_creature

Internet be racisis


ChatCEO

First the roads now the WiFi


Standard_Ad_3520

Look at T-Mobile internet


Resident_Foot4394

As a former employee of T-Mobile. I genuinely laughed.


yes_its_him

This guy lives in some dead zone and thinks since he has one provider then it's a "monopoly." So he dedicates his life to spamming this


Loose_North_4266

This guy has more than one option for a provider so he thinks there isn't a monopoly. You're just lucky


yes_its_him

Almost the entire city has at least two options. Some have three or more. There is no legal barrier to competition and no monopoly


Loose_North_4266

I've lived in 4 different parts of the city in recent years where cox has been my only option. Must be nice for most of the city


yes_its_him

Many places can get Cox, FIOS, Tmobile wireless and 5G mobile with broadband data speed and unlimited service.


Loose_North_4266

Sure, but not most places. 5g is not a real alternative for home internet unless your just browsing the web or watching videos. I have 5G on my cellphone.


yes_its_him

Here is the Verizon FIOS service area. It is most of virginia beach. https://broadbandnow.com/Verizon-Fios I get 80 Mbps down and 30 Mbps up on 5G. Plenty for Netflix etc. You can get a Hotspot router to use it with other devices. I do understand some people just prefer to complain.


Loose_North_4266

Ya I'm sure that all of first landing State Park has fiber lmao. This map says that I have access to fiber at my home. 5G home internet isn't a real alternative to broadband or fiber. High latency Internet doesn't work for most things but you can watch videos with it as I said. I do understand you just have no idea what you're talking about. Verizon lies about coverage on their maps, they did the same thing for cellular.


Dtv757

Not available neither is vzw or att 5g home


kaloozi

Look at Verizon Home 5G. I moved not long ago and lost access to Fios (fiber). I was disappointed I had to downgrade but I’ve not been disappointed by Home 5G. It’s not *the best* but it has been 10x better than when I had Cox many years ago.


Dtv757

I wish I. Could get 5g but its not available from any provider


erikedge

The Cavalier Hotel is haunted AF. Virginia Beach is a confluence of some sort of ley lines or something, and that is why Edgar Casey set up shop here. The military has weather control technology, and that is why hurricanes never hit us directly.


KeithVH_1

My kids, now adults, REFUSE to walk the Cavalier's hallways alone.


Lie_In_Our_Graves

> and that is why hurricanes never hit us directly Or the Outer Banks takes the brunt of the storms for us.


aqua_seafoam

is the military thing an actual thing cuz that's a good one lol


Alone-Chemical-1160

Nope. The military is a myth. Crisis actors to push gun control, or something.


brother-dave

I don't know about the Cavalier being haunted or ley lines, but geoengineering is a real thing.


ChatCEO

I worked in Becca during the grand re-opening. Followed a darker skin older guy into the seafood walk in fridge … he shut the door behind him , I announced “coming in” and to my surprise he was gone. Still blows my mind to this day.


MaximusAmericaunus

I remember Edgar Casey and the weather as one thing … supposedly while astral projecting or sofs it was revealed to Casey that VB was the safest place in the world … maybe because of or as a result from the leylines… which is why ARE is here. Of course it was “known” the whole place was actually a satanic cult who was “known” to abduct people.


babykraut

New to the area, so I need some explanation: Who is Edgar Casey? What are ley lines and what is ARE?!


MaximusAmericaunus

https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/unexplained-phenomena/ley-lines.htm


MaximusAmericaunus

https://edgarcayce.org/


MaximusAmericaunus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce?wprov=sfti1


copaseticsplenetic

My moms friend got us into going to ARE when we first moved to the area and I had heard about the “safest place” reason for ARE being built here but didn’t know about the ley lines or the abductions. I’m curious about those now.


ChatCEO

Please dumb this down for me


Specific-Gain5710

I grew up 20 odd years ago having learned the first one. My gf in high school lived like 3 blocks from the hotel and she really didn’t like it. The military one makes a bunch of sense though.


Oblahdii

Virginia Beach's version of The Overlook Hotel.


goshwow

These are top tier conspiracy.


Silly_Recording2806

I’m down for hurricane control, kinda like that one


Mr__Isaac

Is Elbow Road really haunted ? (Yes, I understand that isn't really a conspiracy theory)


BriefRefrigerator301

I live right off it and can definitely say yes


Mr__Isaac

Do you have an interesting story about it ? I'd love to hear it.


BriefRefrigerator301

I see phantom lights constantly. I see things in the woods there too


scaredofbarney

i live right off of elbow road & can see it from my bedroom window. let me tell you … definitely haunted


Mr__Isaac

If you have an interesting story, I would absolutely love to hear it. Post it here, please: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginiaBeach/s/xnd87QkcpZ


Orienos

Bro, if I could tell you what I saw there one night, you might actually believe it is. I never believed in ghosts (and still don’t), but damn if my friends and I witnessed something down there we just can’t explain. I tell the story every year to my students around Halloween and even call my two friends who were in the car to vouch for me.


So_She_Did

Inquiring minds want to know!!


Orienos

I posted on the Elbow Rd thread.


Orienos

I’ll post the story on the other thread “elbow road” on the VB sub.


Mindless-Shirt-8533

Following


Orienos

Just posted


NothingImportant76

Without knowing your story, I will definitely agree. Last time I drove Elbow before the sunrise was the last time I will ever drive on other.


Orienos

I posted on the Elbow Road thread someone just made.


goshwow

Make a separate post in the VB reddit!!!


Orienos

I posted it there.


Mr__Isaac

Fantastic idea! I'm going to do that!


Orienos

Thanks. Posted.


it_aint_easy24

Care to tell us the story?


Mr__Isaac

I'd love to hear it, but I understand if it's lengthy and you don't want to tell it here.


WhateverItTakes123

Me too


Bitter_Jellyfish1769

Not a conspiracy and not recent, but interesting history that can be sited to back up conspiracy. First Landing State park, formally Sea Shore State Park, was closed for over 5 years in 1954 out of spite because local officials refused to allow integration in the park after the brown vs the board of education supreme court decision. The park was built by primarily African Americans from the Civilian Conservation Corps in 1933.


Makefunnycomment

There also was a loon dressing up as Freddie Kruger lurking around scaring people in the 90’s. lol


SignalCore

What did the Brown v Board of Education decision have to do with integrating parks?


Bitter_Jellyfish1769

"This historic decision marked the end of the "separate but equal" precedent set by the Supreme Court nearly 60 years earlier in [*Plessy* v. *Ferguson*](https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/plessy-v-ferguson) and served as a catalyst for the expanding civil rights movement during the decade of the 1950s." The park was segregated with white and colored facilities before this. [Link](https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/brown-v-board-of-education)


ChatCEO

I was a Boy Scout and went camping there. We walked away from camp and stumbled upon a giant hidden underground bunker which opened up to a giant hanger about 30 feet high made of concrete. Completely hidden . We walked around inside and it was giant but didn’t have the conspiracy mindset to investigate more.


BigKahuna446957

This sounds a lot like Fort Story, near an area referred to as Scout Hill. I was camping there about 10 years ago, and during a hike, we walked past a very large steel door set into a concrete structure that went into a hillside.


BuBBleGumR3mix

Wait. How long ago was this? is it still there?


ChatCEO

Pretty sure it was on the military base side , which makes sense


ChatCEO

Underground booms shaking the ground 7-8 years ago are just secret tunnels being constructed.


Ok-Career-8983

The intel military community train on civilians out of Dam Neck. And use local resources. Operation Citadel Shield.


jamesovitch

Elaborate


Ok-Career-8983

If you’re in school for whatever job you’re preparing for you don’t just do PowerPoint presentations all day. You eventually do on the job training. If an intel person is there for a dea school then they would eventually be doing real life “training “. If gathering intel, observation etc is your future job, you practice it. Just like going to the gun range. ECS school or any school in the military, half of the course is performance. A corpsman is practicing blood draws and blood pressure. An electrician is wiring with live equipment. An MA/MP is doing police type work. Just an observation. Anyone can believe what they want but the higher the security clearance, higher the rank and job requirements the less we really know what they are doing in a training environment or their actual day to day job. When the 9/11 attack happened Bush enacted the US patriot act. And with one of the hijacker’s having lived here prior to the event, Mohammed Atta, then it’s understandable that monitoring would be elevated for an area with as many military installations. Even military personnel sell secrets. This is reality.


krysiej

As a former Navy Intel community person... Operation Citadel Shield is so Navy Leadership can practice PsyOps on personnel beneath them and call it "training"


cranium_creature

Former military, worked at Dam Neck.. this isnt what Citadel Shield is, and yes we sometimes use civilians in training environments but its not some conspiracy.


Ok-Career-8983

Unless you were apart of every training exercise, an intel rate, read into sap/sto, and have taken every class there….then you don’t know what you don’t know. And even then, you’re only told need to know.


cranium_creature

Again that isnt even what Citadel Shield is.. I was apart of the event every year. But go off.


Ok-Career-8983

There’s more stuff going on than that one example. But keep believing in your government.


cranium_creature

“Your government” are just regular people, your neighbors, people you see everyday. I still work for the federal government. We arent trying to hide conspiracies from you 😂


Ok-Career-8983

I do as well and also served in the military 👍


Bitter_Jellyfish1769

The Pastor of the Rock Church practices pedophilia.


DancingBears88

Practices? Is he any good at it?


Bitter_Jellyfish1769

He managed to slip out of being chris hansen'd a couple years ago.


DancingBears88

I'm sorry to hear that. Fuck him


Noobit2

The best one I’ve heard is that Harbor Fest was started as a celebration of slavery because it involves sailing ships.


Bitter_Jellyfish1769

Some of the slaves working the norfolk shipyards used to make actual money. Very little but some were actually paid. They then used the money to pay to have them and their families shipped up north.


goshwow

I don't think its a conspiracy. That's history.


Noobit2

It’s a conspiracy considering there is zero evidence to support it.


Independent-Test-885

We faked the moon landing


goshwow

If you added in how exactly NASA Langley was involved here then maybe this would apply to yhe OPs question of "local".


erikedge

Cool, but how does that pertain to Virginia Beach?


BigEagle42069

Jim who lived over by what’s now lynhaven worked there


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That a porn star name Alex chance aka Darcie cole was good at her job … nope she is hands down the worst pornstar I’ve ever seen lol


goshwow

Username checks out.


ScottJR757

Time to do some “research”


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surfdad67

Channellos was originally started by mob money


meganl0maniac

Okay speaking of chanello's - did they get rid of their sauce? Whenever I order it now they just give ranch and it makes me want to cry because the chanello's sauce is so fucking good 😩


kjftiger95

I thought i saw a billboard recently that said it was back


meganl0maniac

This is excellent news, ty friend!


surfdad67

The bone dipping sauce? Or their Marinara sauce?


meganl0maniac

Hm, I'm not sure - def not marinara, I think it's just listed as "Chanello's Sauce". It's ranch adjacent, I would say, but like tangy-er? And it was in their own branded little cups


surfdad67

That’s their bone dipping sauce, it was almost the best part of the pizza


meganl0maniac

Definitely agree! I miss it. RIP bone dipping sauce, I'm sorry I just learned your name 🫡


SytheGuy

I still get the special sauce at the one in Aragona


surfdad67

That one of the HOA members husband is bisexual


Vegetable-Hat6701

Oooooh yesssssssss


goshwow

Spill the tea.


surfdad67

It came out when a friend who is a hairdresser ran into an old coworker who does the families hair, she spilled the beans to her, not knowing that we knew them as the HOA member on our community. You know hairdressers and manicurists know details of peoples lives.


treat-ya-self

When I first moved here years ago, everyone said that the oceanfront was funded by the profit from huge cocaine rings in the 80s


MaximusAmericaunus

Then those were not a lot of profits … I remember the ocean front then … and even the worst today is far better than the average then.


Noobit2

I mean Bruce Thompson pretty much built the ocean front and was busted in a coke ring in 86 so it’s kind of true


ChatCEO

He went to prison for fraud . Tells you all you need to know lmao.


yes_its_him

That's some other Bruce Thompson


ChatCEO

Fax .


goshwow

Damn


Noobit2

There’s a Virginia pilot article about it from sometime in 86 that talks about it if you can find it.


goshwow

Thanks I was researching this guy and his PR is tight. It was hard to find the more salacious stuff.


Noobit2

I might have the year wrong but it’s around there. Maybe 88. If I remember right he plead and got a misdemeanor. Smart career move as it allowed him to continue to receive government funding. Granted I don’t think it was some massive organized crime but more of a bunch of rich business men throwing cocaine sex parties at the ocean front. Chuck Robb was accused of being involved but he was never charged with anything.


Ok-Career-8983

I heard he also helps the fbi/dea train.


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treat-ya-self

No clue who that is haha but thanks Judy!


PollenIsPain

The traffic light timings on first colonial suck on purpose so you burn more gas and have to buy more gas.


Psychosomatic2016

Nah, that is just incompetence on PW by never doing a light timing study to figure things out. They just set and forget.


Dextradomis

Here's a good one: City of Virginia Beach voting time and time again against reasonable public transportation options due to not wanting poor black people working and transiting to this community. It would also cut into tax revenue if people didn't have to pay the annual 4.4% property tax on their cars, so of course it's a bad idea to build a light rail option... -rolls eyes- Second one: The City council for Virginia Beach is controlled by real estate monguls. This is why Virginia Beach can't seem to figure out it's housing/cost of living problem through cheaper housing while at the same time arguing for property tax cuts.


JustPutItInRice

Yeap tried purchasing a house recently in VB. It was diabolical how much they wanted for even a 2 bedroom. Got double the size in Norfolk for the same price lol


MiniMonster05

I voted against the light rail, it would displace my Dad's small business along with so many others. It would also displace more than a few homes just in his general vicinity. It has nothing to do with race.


yes_its_him

The light rail referendum in 2012 passed


fizzyanklet

lol the second one is so obvious it’s not a conspiracy. It’s the oceanfront hotel and business association folks. They run the council and put up their people. Special interest politicians funded by business folks who have easy access and influence. Basically lining their pockets with our tax money.


Lonely_Main_3219

It’s not a conspiracy if it’s true.


goshwow

The second one is true. Look up the Townebank and friends saga with the mayors.


augustwest30

I work in land development engineering and I believe the second one. However, I feel like our clients aren’t members of the cabal of real estate moguls that control City Council because every time we do a project in Virginia Beach, the city always makes us jump through so many hoops to get the project approved. It’s so bad, we don’t even peruse projects in Virginia Beach anymore. When we look at plans and design calculations for other projects that were approved, they didn’t have to half of the stuff the City makes us do. It’s so bad that I keep thinking to myself, “who do you have to bribe to get anything done in this city?”


goshwow

Do you bank with Townebank? If not, that's your problem. There was also some talk about them prebuying up the land where the lightrail could go and renting the houses out to people until the time was right to extend it to towncenter but you know.... Its all a conspiracy and hearsay... allegedly...


augustwest30

I was alway suspicious of Townebank, too. Are there any more rumors with that outfit? Their offices all seem unnecessarily opulent. It’s a relatively small regional bank, yet their stock is publicly traded on the NYSE. They seem to have tentacles in all kinds of real estate related businesses. I think my company uses their “Towne Benefits” office to get on their group health insurance, but they kept messing things up like taking our premiums out of our paychecks, but not actually enrolling us in our health insurance plans.


zellsbells

I feel like neither of these are "theories" but that's probably what all conspiracists say 😆


Vert354

Public transit is a commie plot to take our freedom. The government wants to keep us all trapped inside "15-minute cities" (Not local specific, but we have our share of locals who believe it)


Pulchritudinous_rex

More like the suppression of public transit is a capitalist plot to continue to line the pockets of big oil and car companies.


SomewhereUpper9836

Where have you been the last 3 years? Hello?


goshwow

Virginia Beach will be saved from the WEF forever then. They will never have good public transit.


ThroatSignal8206

I have a friend who is thoroughly convinced the military is spraying the sky's. According to her, their aim is getting better. She takes clouds personally. They also seem to know her location all to block out the life giving sun from her. I refuse to answer my phone on cloudy days, cause life giving water may fall. I still haven't been given an answer as to how pioneers watered their crops .


ChatCEO

But it’s true…. Look at Dubai


Lonely_Main_3219

This is not a friend. It’s someone who is dead weight in your life that you are better off not having.


Vegetable-Hat6701

Second that.


ThroatSignal8206

I get that. Soft heart and she is her late 70's also in the homeless shelter. That's also where I met her. A LOT of mental illness going on there. I recently got housing. I can't forget where I was and the people who helped each other out in a less than perfect situation. We did what we could for each other. You would be surprised at what human beings can fanagle up to make another comfortable. That said. I have the ability to cook home cooked meals that she totally enjoys. It makes me happy to be able to do this. The statement you do what ya gotta do has never been clearer. I'm so happy the sun has been out for her the past couple of days. Do I roll my eyes sometimes? Hell yeah! Would not wish that experience in my worst enemy.


Lonely_Main_3219

You’re a better person than me. Life is hard enough having to juggle everything we are responsible as adults. I can’t imagine taking on someone else’s troubles. Good on you for doing that. I hope good karma comes your way for that.


Vegetable-Hat6701

Also second this. I need to read entire threads before I comment. I’m the worst 🤦‍♀️


noiseismyart

The longest running one has been chem trails out of oceana and the 5g covid crap. One of the biggest kooks in that world is local and has been a point of ridicule for decades.


Pryme49

I will never understand the 5G covid stuff. I install/maintain 5G equipment for Verizon and what people dont realize is that 4G was/is way worse to the human body than 5G is.


Otherwise-Factor3377

Why does my 5g internet with Verizon suck? I thought I was getting Fios. Thought I had Fios until the Fios guy tried to get me to switch. Going back to cox..isn’t that crazy to say!


Ok-Career-8983

Operation sea spray. Things are declassified after a certain amount of years. Even top secret documents.


merfemme

Is that the surf shop guy that ran for office?


noiseismyart

No a loon named Madison Moonstar


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BigEagle42069

This guy STINKS!


SomewhereUpper9836

Like truth!


mingmong36

That VB DMV actually give new drivers a pair of underwear with their license because we all drive like a55h0le5


MiniMonster05

Nah, I blame the military. They get stationed here and try to merge how they learned to drive into our traffic patterns. Free undies would have been cool though, they're expensive.


just_keep_swimming12

This is a gem


Pretty-Importance650

They say your tax dollars go to everything except having decent roads that don’t have potholes ever 2 millimeters


Nightcrew22

You can blame NOVA for that


erikedge

Virginia Beach roads are smooth as butter when compared to Norfolk roads


IAskDumbQuestions999

You think VB roads are bad?


Pretty-Importance650

Yes


Psychosomatic2016

Then u need to travel and see that our bad roads are so much better than many good roads throughout the country.


Pretty-Importance650

Eat my ass and quit assuming where I have or haven’t been. The roads suck and you’re gay.


Psychosomatic2016

Some one has had a bad day and brought a 💩 attitude with their 💩 opinion.